Democratic Party in crisis
‘It could get worse before it gets better,’ says one senior Dem aide.
Lies. Carvelle assured America the dems would be in power for 40 years. There's 32 left to go so this is just fearmongering.
Thinking about sending one of these to Jimmy so he can sign it for me....
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Every picture tells a story.
:silly: :silly: Bill is almost in tears because he realizes she's going to be around a whole lot more and she's going to be riding her broom for quite awhile after this. Hillary is obviously ticked off and Kaine looks like he's about as enthusiastic about the future as someone who was just sentenced to life in prison.
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Every picture tells a story.
:silly: :silly: Bill is almost in tears because he realizes she's going to be around a whole lot more and she's going to be riding her broom for quite awhile after this. Hillary is obviously ticked off and Kaine looks like he's about as enthusiastic about the future as someone who was just sentenced to life in prison.I don't know. Bill just realized that he can start dating again. He's biting his lip to keep from smiling.
I don't know. Bill just realized that he can start dating again. He's biting his lip to keep from smiling.He doesn't have to live in the White House. He can go back to Chappaqua and his girlfriend, the "Energizer Bunny."
the story I see is Bill trying hard not to bust out laughing because aft erall these years he got his revenge.
I don't know. Bill just realized that he can start dating again. He's biting his lip to keep from smiling.
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Every picture tells a story.
The only person happier than Trump this morning was Bill. Obama was happy too, because now the Obamas are the First Family of the Democratic Party.
Expect Barack to return to the Senate in 2018, maybe even as Majority Leader, and Democrats want Michelle to run for POTUS.
Unless we lose the Senate in 2018, he can't be Majority Leader. He would have to win the Senate race first and then be nominated as the Minority Leader to replace Reid.
It is going to get a whole lot worse. The leaked emails exposed to the kool aid drinkers that they are participating in a rigged system. They also do not have a very deep bench of up and coming Rats on the horizon because of all the loses they experienced the last couple cycles. They have no one to rally around.
Thinking about sending one of these to Jimmy so he can sign it for me....
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I recall how after the 2004 election many people at TOS were crowing about "the end of the Dems for decades".
:whistle:
:silly: :silly: Bill is almost in tears because he realizes she's going to be around a whole lot more and she's going to be riding her broom for quite awhile after this. Hillary is obviously ticked off and Kaine looks like he's about as enthusiastic about the future as someone who was just sentenced to life in prison.
Had it been a more likable person than Hillary, Trump would have lost. One of the reasons that Bill and Obama won cause they where likable. She came across as cold and uncaring person.
Agreed. Hillary didn't run as a moderate like her husband did, seeking ways to "triangulate" between left and right. She ran as a hard-core leftist, with a Dem platform that was more extreme than it's ever been. It's telling that she made no gestures whatsoever to reach out to Republicans disaffected with Trump. And, yes, she's cold and vindictive, and offered no sunny contrast to Trump.
I was thinking about this today, the person most responsible for the Trump win is Obama.Absolutely. In my neck of the woods, enough Democrat union workers knew that he was to blame for their lost jobs and the destruction of the industries that employed them, and that Hillary was only Obama 2.0 in that respect, so they voted for the non-Obama. In my state, Democrats have at least a 2-1 edge in voter registration. That's 67-33. Trump took my state by roughly that margin, 2-1, so that means a whole heck of a lot of Democrats voted against Obama/Bubbette. Had Obama's second term been more like Bill Clinton's - more moderate, less Marxist and totalitarian - the she-witch would have won.
The GOP now controls:
Congress
President
Majority of State Legislatures
Majority of Governors
The GOP is poised to control the USSC.
Let that sink in for a minute.
It would seem, for a "dying party", that the GOP is doing pretty damned well right about now.
After Tuesday's election, Republicans had control of 33 governorships, and at least 66 state legislative houses - at least two-thirds of each. That is stunning. And, make no mistake, it will have significant consequences in the nation's direction.
It would seem, for a "dying party", that the GOP is doing pretty damned well right about now.
After Tuesday's election, Republicans had control of 33 governorships, and at least 66 state legislative houses - at least two-thirds of each. That is stunning. And, make no mistake, it will have significant consequences in the nation's direction.
Recent history teaches us things can change dramatically within a two year election cycle.The congressional election of 2018 could be a bloodbath if the Republicans don't do as you said.
If the Republicans don't take this opportunity to "get things done", their future prospects are dim indeed.
I take it a step further back.
I was thinking about this today, the person most responsible for the Trump win is Obama.
I take it a step further back.
The person who led to Obama was George W. He went against conservative principles that gave us Obama, which now gave us Trump.
Bush's fault.
I was thinking about this today, the person most responsible for the Trump win is Obama. After 2012 he could have gone to the center like Bill did, but he choose to go far left. And that's why people are angry. His agenda was rejected tonight. In 2008 he ran as a moderate. In 2012 he governed as a far left winger.
Unless we lose the Senate in 2018, he can't be Majority Leader. He would have to win the Senate race first and then be nominated as the Minority Leader to replace Reid.
I recall how after the 2004 election many people at TOS were crowing about "the end of the Dems for decades".
:whistle:
And besides that the odds that the dems retake the Senate in 18 are astronomical!
I wouldn't exactly say the GOP is the picture of health and vigor either.
Some 44% of registered voters didn't even vote this time and the democrats who crossed over were attracted to Trump rhetoric that would have made Bernie Sanders proud.
The congressional election of 2018 could be a bloodbath if the Republicans don't do as you said.
Biggest liability we have is the maniac at the forefront of it all.
No argument from me there but let's give him a chance!
Yesterday's tweet didn't inspire confidence.
You yelling "FIRE!!!" showed me something. :whistle:
:shrug:
Yesterday's tweet didn't inspire confidence.
Reid is GONE thank God and the putz from NY taking his place (Chuck Schumer) ain't gonna roll easily! And besides that the odds that the dems retake the Senate in 18 are astronomical!And, there's an elevated risk that Schumer will bang his head on a camera or trip over a microphone cable.
Well, beyond your back and forth schizo behavior on Trump..
...it brings to light that there are indeed a core of members who, despite having won the Trifecta,
.....a a guaranteed possibility of a Conservative SCOTUS for the next 40 years.
I will respond to this: I voted for Trump. While I might be a "snowflake" in worrying about a single tweet, Trump owes it to us to act in a dignified manor so that we may be proud of voting for him. As time goes on I get reassured. I know Trump will always be Trump, but please stop with the tweet Trump.
If you don't like that, please read my signature.
No kidding? A "guaranteed possibility?" Oh...well, that is practically money in the bank. This sounds a lot like "so much winning,"
*bouche*
I'll believe it when I see it.
I like WTF and I think his posts are honest, and if his decisions have wavered it is because he is a more contemplative man than me, as I pegged Trump as a loser 18 months ago.
Also, Since WTF was sometimes for Trump and sometimes against him, maybe you could cut him a little more slack than you cut for me...since I've been against/wrong about Trump since day one of his announcement.
Hope you are well my friend, and I expect you are freaking blown away by this if you haven't seen it yet...
Some are reading too much into this election and that's dangerous.
I'll cut slack with the vast majority of members who refused to back Trump. They been shamed and humiliated for their political acumen already. No need to pile on.
Hey @Once-Ler ....you must buy a ticket if you want a chance to 'win'. Like any lottery.
At least I know there's not going to be yet another bull-dyke b*tch with a grudge ruling on Constitutional Law.
I'll cut slack with the vast majority of members who refused to back Trump. They been shamed and humiliated for their political acumen already. No need to pile on. :laugh:
And I really liked Arrow, Flash, etc.. But the last season of Arrow sorely disappointed. As it seems, does every series in it's 4th season.
As before, you don't get it quite right. Many of us said we all know how bad Clinton would be as president, and with Trump all over the map with his comments and past actions and positions we can't possibly know if he'll be as bad as she would have been, but we don't trust him to do what you imagine he will. Shame and humiliation? Come back to us next year at this time and lets see how many of your imaginings became reality. Should he turn out to be the second coming of Reagan that you somehow have convinced yourself he is, we'll be happy to admit we were wrong about him. But till then, your gloating is just moral preening with little or no basis in reality.
Woah! Big fella! WHOA! I haven't been shamed or humiliated at all and whether or not YOU were "right about everything" remains to be seen! FAR in the future in fact!
I'm happy for you that your guy won! But I would suggest you lay off the over the top gloating for awhile! A LONG while!
And just a note to my dear @mystery-ak. There is no Democratic party! There is only a Democrat party and it is on it's way to the ash heap of history!
Yes - all that you said.
It may not seem so after this election but winning the Presidency is the easy part. The heavy lifting starts now and it really becomes tough on January 20. It is possible, and I pray it doesn't happen, the most ardent supporter in just a few years could say, "I was wrong".
Woah! Big fella! WHOA! I haven't been shamed or humiliated at all and whether or not YOU were "right about everything" remains to be seen! FAR in the future in fact!
I'm happy for you that your guy won! But I would suggest you lay off the over the top gloating for awhile! A LONG while!
Earl....please refer to my response to Lando. Thanks.
@Bigun
@Lando Lincoln
@LMAO
Nobody went to the mat in here on whether a 'President Trump' was going to be added to Mt. Rushmore.
Just did! Sorry you STILL don't get it! :whistle:
Hint: Ronald Reagan had a little sign on his desk that stayed there for 8 years with little notice. it read: There is no limit to what a man can achieve if he doesn't care who get's the credit!"
You self-admitted yesterday to me that you got EVERYTHING WRONG!E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G.!!!!!!!
YOU are delusional! Go read my post again!
YOU are delusional! Go read my post again!
I never supported the Trump candidacy and still would not today and for that I make no apology to anyone.
I said that there was no way in hell that he would ever win the Republican nomination. Struck out there.
When he did win the nomination I said there was no way in hell he would ever beat Hillary Clinton. Struck out again.
That makes me currently 0 for 2 with a batting average of 0.00.
Our president elect made many promises to the people in accomplishing the things I mentioned above and I said I did not believe a word he said.
It is my most sincere hope and prayer for the sake of this once great republic and all of it's current and future inhabitants that going forward my batting average never improves!
I also find myself VERY happy this morning at the prospect of never ever having to hear the name Clinton with regard to any elected office in this land for as long as I live!
Why....did you edit it? :laugh:
November 09, 2016, 10:06:04 AM » @Bigun
Are we having fun yet, Earl? :beer:
Reid is GONE thank God and the putz from NY taking his place (Chuck Schumer) ain't gonna roll easily! And besides that the odds that the dems retake the Senate in 18 are astronomical!
First of all, I did NOT post the controversial meme about apologizing, forgiving and forgetting with myself in mind. I don't expect anybody in here to do any of those things.
It was to let everybody reflect on their own rough go of it with individual/specific members, since the presidential campaigns began.
It was for members who got into heated argument and flame wars...the MODS and administrators can't be everywhere at once...with once another, and it was a suggestion to examine events and make amends.
As far as being "right"....I not only told you he was going to win, but I told you HOW he would achieve it.
That's all I meant about being correct....the prognostication of it all.
And somebody tell Sink he now owes me $200.00 For the Nomination...and for the brass ring. Or...is it $1,100?
He never pays up, anyway. :laugh:
I may not be a college professor in Pennsylvania....I may, in fact, be a "Yahoo" in many members' eyes.
But, truthfully,.....who has the correct pulse on the electorate. Me? Or you self-appointed "big brains"? :whistle:
If you want to call that gloating...so be it. I've earned the right. Just like John Houseman.
You celebrate a little early.
Reid is gone as much as Obama is gone.
There are still a couple of months for havoc to reign over us until they both are truly gone.
That he did - and much of it extra-Constitutionally. But IMO the greatest lost opportunity of the Obama years was his failure to heal race relations in this country.
Yep! that's the post! Now tell me how you arrived at me admitting that I had been wrong about EVERYTHING from that!
:beer:
As far as being "right"....I not only told you he was going to win, but I told you HOW he would achieve it.
You said yourself, you're batting ZERO!
I'm just agreeing with you! :laugh:
Won't get too comfy Karnac. I went on a streak from 2009 to this election having called every major action/cave in by the GOP including Romney's wipeout when everyone sounded about him like you did about Trump.
With past performance being the most accurate predictor of future returns I'll be back to form in no time ;)
@CatherineofAragon
I am Hertz. You are Avis.
OJ? When'd you get out? :silly:
That's "trying harder"? :pondering:
"If the joke does fit, you must admit!"