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Title: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: corbe on July 29, 2018, 03:15:16 am
Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city

By Morgan Gstalter - 07/28/18 10:37 PM EDT


A new report from Austin, Texas’s Equity Office about existing Confederate monuments suggested changing the city's name.

The report identified several neighborhoods and 10 streets named in honor of the Confederacy or William Barton, a slave owner dubbed the “Daniel Boone of Texas," that could be changed, The Austin American-Statesman reported Friday.

Austin’s namesake, Stephen F. Austin — also referred to as the "father of Texas" — opposed efforts by Mexico to abolish slavery in the Tejas province, saying freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace,” the newspaper noted.

Renaming the state’s capital would most likely require a citywide election because the name has been denoted in the city charter.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/399374-austin-city-report-on-confederate-monuments-suggests-renaming (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/399374-austin-city-report-on-confederate-monuments-suggests-renaming)
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 29, 2018, 03:18:49 am
 **nononono*   *****rollingeyes*****   22222frying pan
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: TomSea on July 29, 2018, 03:33:46 am
Where this can lead to and some probably think this way already, is to return a whole lot of the Southwest to Mexico, what do they call it? Aztlan?  I don't think that will happen for decades though, with any serious concern.  Beyond 2050.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: LilLamb on July 29, 2018, 04:40:43 am
I wish the rest of Texas would vote to move the Capitol.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: dfwgator on July 29, 2018, 05:49:28 am
They'll eventually scrub George Washington from everything because he was a slave owner.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: sneakypete on July 29, 2018, 04:21:01 pm
WOW! Who knew you could change history you find to be politically inconvenient by just changing the name of a city?

HOODATHUNKIT?
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 29, 2018, 04:29:59 pm
One small point - in the last 30, 40 years, people have moved into Austin from places other than Texas.  Austin is in a beautiful area and has many natural resources.  But, Austin/Travis County/The University of Texas at Austin has become an insular little bastion of redness.  Unfortunately we are seeing this in most big urban areas now.  Socialism thrives in cities.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Free Vulcan on July 29, 2018, 05:42:51 pm
They'll probably rename it Guevaraville.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Bigun on July 29, 2018, 05:51:45 pm
One small point - in the last 30, 40 years, people have moved into Austin from places other than Texas.  Austin is in a beautiful area and has many natural resources.  But, Austin/Travis County/The University of Texas at Austin has become an insular little bastion of redness.  Unfortunately we are seeing this in most big urban areas now.  Socialism thrives in cities.

John Dewey did his work very well and as a result anyone remotely conservative need not apply at a public university anywhere in this country today.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 29, 2018, 05:58:02 pm
Maybe they'll revert to it's original name, Waterloo.

The first documented permanent settlement in the area dates to 1837 when the village of Waterloo was founded near the confluence of the Colorado River and Shoal Creek

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Austin,_Texas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Austin,_Texas)
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 29, 2018, 06:02:27 pm
Maybe they'll revert to it's original name, Waterloo.

The first documented permanent settlement in the area dates to 1837 when the village of Waterloo was founded near the confluence of the Colorado River and Shoal Creek

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Austin,_Texas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Austin,_Texas)

Isn't that from an imperial power?
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 29, 2018, 06:10:50 pm
Isn't that from an imperial power?

The settlement was named in 1837, by 1836 the Texas Revolution was over and the Republic of Texas was independent.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 29, 2018, 06:29:33 pm
The settlement was named in 1837, by 1836 the Texas Revolution was over and the Republic of Texas was independent.

No, I meant "Waterloo".
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 29, 2018, 06:48:00 pm
No, I meant "Waterloo".

Waterloo Texas, not Waterloo Belgium. ****slapping
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 29, 2018, 06:51:35 pm
Waterloo Texas, not Waterloo Belgium. ****slapping

Yes, but....oh, nevermind.   Too hot to argue.   :beer:
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 29, 2018, 06:58:52 pm
Too hot to argue.   :beer:

You got that right! And we just had a scare. Our power went out. Thank goodness, it was only for a few minutes.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 29, 2018, 07:06:48 pm
You got that right! And we just had a scare. Our power went out. Thank goodness, it was only for a few minutes.

That would be awful!  It did happen to me once last summer, and I went and got a hotel room for the night.  Too hot to sleep here.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 29, 2018, 07:12:31 pm
That would be awful!  It did happen to me once last summer, and I went and got a hotel room for the night.  Too hot to sleep here.

Growing up, we didn't have any air conditioning. Just a whole house fan. I'd sure hate to go back to that now.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 29, 2018, 07:22:15 pm
Growing up, we didn't have any air conditioning. Just a whole house fan. I'd sure hate to go back to that now.

Yes, little kids seem to handle the heat better.  I'm pretty sure it would kill me now.   :cool:
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 29, 2018, 07:44:08 pm
Yes, little kids seem to handle the heat better.  I'm pretty sure it would kill me now.   :cool:

We lost power for 2 weeks from Hurricane Ike. I only had a 2.5kw generator. So no AC. We made it thru that OK. But that was in September.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 29, 2018, 08:24:48 pm
We lost power for 2 weeks from Hurricane Ike. I only had a 2.5kw generator. So no AC. We made it thru that OK. But that was in September.

You're not on Entergy too, are you?
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 29, 2018, 09:25:20 pm
You're not on Entergy too, are you?

Nope. Centerpoint. 

At the end of the first week, there was a push to repair all the lines in my subdivision so they could power us all up. My service line angles off a pole in my neighbor's yard. Well a strain relief broke for my lines on that pole. Instead of taking a few more minutes to reattach my line to the pole, they cut my lines and powered up the rest of the neighborhood. After a few more days without power, I made up a billboard on the corner of my yard pleading for help and spelling out what Centerpoint and Georgia Power and Light had done to me. A neighbor who worked for Centerpoint came over to give him the story. I took him and showed him. He promised to send a crew over, but it took several more days. A Georgia Power and Light crew came over. They were all apologetic and fixed me up. However the crew that cut my 3 Phase lines neglected to mark the phases. When they restored my power, I checked and found they connected the Bastard Leg correctly, but crossed the other 2 legs. I sent them on their way and uncrossed it myself at the breaker box.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Wingnut on July 29, 2018, 10:00:53 pm
Yes, but....oh, nevermind.   Too hot to argue.   :beer:

Have a cocktail. Get nekkid and sit in the pool.  It is calming. 
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 30, 2018, 01:47:01 pm
No, I meant "Waterloo".

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_9CiNkkn4#)
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 30, 2018, 01:57:31 pm
Have a cocktail. Get nekkid and sit in the pool.  It is calming.

Would have to add ice cubes to make it tolerable.  :cool:
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 30, 2018, 01:58:40 pm
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_9CiNkkn4#)

Oh.  Well, that makes it much worse.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Wingnut on July 30, 2018, 02:03:22 pm
Would have to add ice cubes to make it tolerable.  :cool:

Cubes for the pool or the cocktail.  Or both!
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: catfish1957 on July 30, 2018, 02:20:09 pm
You're not on Entergy too, are you?

Lost ours (Entergy) for 3 weeks after Rita.  No generator either.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 30, 2018, 02:21:08 pm
Lost ours (Entergy) for 3 weeks after Rita.  No generator either.

I need to get a generator.  Don't have one now.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: sneakypete on July 30, 2018, 02:32:37 pm
I need to get a generator.  Don't have one now.

@Sanguine

If you buy one make sure you buy one with a starter so you can start it. Also,go to your fuse box in your house and write down the amp ratings for every fuse in it,as well as what is on that circuit. That way you know the absolute minimum size generator to buy. You have wasted your money if you are in an area of the country with violent weather and don't buy one big enough to operate your hot water heater,furnace or air-conditioner,washer and clothes drier,as well as your refrigerator.

No,you won't be operating all those things at the same time,but you can figure out your maximum watt draw both summer and winter,and then work from there.

If you have the cash and live in an area with regular outages,a propane-powered generator that is on a slab and wired into your home fuse box is nice. Anytime the power goes out they come on and start providing electricity,and they cut themselves off when the electricity is restored. Best of all they are a lot harder to steal than ones sitting in your garage with the door open,and they run so quietly most people won't know you have one other than your lights are on. These are a really good investment if you have mobility or strength problems,and you can finance them and get payments low enough most people can handle them.

Whatever you do,do NOT buy a cheap Chinese-made generator! Buy a brand name American-made generator. It will almost never need repair,and when it does you will be able to buy the parts to repair it.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 30, 2018, 02:34:22 pm
Thanks, @sneakypete, good advice. 
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: sneakypete on July 30, 2018, 02:55:15 pm
Thanks, @sneakypete, good advice.

@Sanguine

Maybe the best advise is to just buy one. I bought a new one maybe 7 or 8 years ago in order to get one with battery start,and haven't even taken it out of the box yet!

Seems like you never have stuff like this when you need it,but once you have it you never seem to need it again. I bought this one because a shoulder injury kept me from being able to start the old one I  had (pull starter) when  a storm knocked out the electricity. So I sold the old one and bought the one with the battery-powered starter.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 30, 2018, 03:03:52 pm
The 2 weeks I was without power, I heavily utilized an old 1800 rpm 2.5kw Onan gasoline generator that I had converted to run on propane. My hot water heater is gas, but my kitchen is all electric. I cooked out on the breezeway with a 2 burner propane stove. I powered all except the kitchen and AC with the generator. Fridge, freezer, lots of fans, lights, entertainment center, computers, internet, etc. I would run washer, then gas dryer, separately. After a week, my 100# propane bottle was getting down, so I went on patrol to find propane sources. I'm in South Houston and ended up almost to Angleton before I found a source. I picked up a 60# bottle while I was there. The next day I tapped into my natural gas and adjusted the regulator for natural gas. Propane or Natural gas is the way to go.  I modified the generator's exhaust. I plumbed the exhaust to a large muffler I buried in the yard. It ran very quiet at 1800 rpm.

Its hard to find slow rpm generators though. They are quieter and are better capable of continuous duty. When I gave the generator a break, I'd power the living room tv, lites, fan, etc with a 500watt inverter I've had forever.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 30, 2018, 03:20:23 pm
And remember, when there is an area wide power outage, the most wanted commodities are gasoline, ice, and water. Where available, expect long lines.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Elderberry on July 30, 2018, 04:57:34 pm
Oh.  Well, that makes it much worse.

How about this?

The Waterloo Connection?

The Baker Rifles at 2 Waterloos

Of all the regiments present at Waterloo, none was more respected at the time than the Green-jacketed 95th Rifles. A highly-trained regiment of expert marksmen and skirmishers, the 95th drew a grudging respect and generated great fear amongst their French enemies.

The men of the 95th were armed with the 'Baker' rifle and sword bayonet; the standard of marksmanship in the regiment was phenomenal. Officers were armed with a sword humourously describd by John Kincaid (the Adjutant of the 1st Battalion) as 'Our small regulation half-moon sabre... better calculated to shave a lady's maid than a Frenchman's head'. In Kincaid's case at Wateroo, the effeciveness of the sword was of little consequence; His sword had rusted solid in its scabbard due to the heavy rain!

Present at Waterloo were the 1st and 2nd Battalions of the 95th, plus two companies from the 3rd Battalion, a total of 1,322 Officers and Men. By the end of this day of battle they had suffered 35 officers and 482 men as casualties.
 
After the Napoleonic Wars, Baker rifles were supplied to Mexico, particularly the early models that accepted the same sized ball as the 0.69 "Brown Bess" smooth-bore muskets. Some of the Mexican Cazadores light infantry were equipped with these rifles as well as second-hand kit from the British Army (likely from the 95th).

Mexican Cazadores and British made Baker rifles (probably some used previously by the 95th) saw action at the Alamo.

So some of the same Baker rifles were used at Napoleon’s Waterloo and Santa Anna’s Waterloo at San Jacinto.

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/the-95th-rifles-at-waterloo.10268/ (https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/the-95th-rifles-at-waterloo.10268/)


Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: dfwgator on July 30, 2018, 05:05:45 pm
Just find some black historical figure with the last name of "Austin" and declare the city is now named after him.

It's what King County (Seattle) did.   They simply declared now that the county is named after Martin Luther King.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: Sanguine on July 30, 2018, 05:58:59 pm
How about this?

The Waterloo Connection?

The Baker Rifles at 2 Waterloos

Of all the regiments present at Waterloo, none was more respected at the time than the Green-jacketed 95th Rifles. A highly-trained regiment of expert marksmen and skirmishers, the 95th drew a grudging respect and generated great fear amongst their French enemies.

The men of the 95th were armed with the 'Baker' rifle and sword bayonet; the standard of marksmanship in the regiment was phenomenal. Officers were armed with a sword humourously describd by John Kincaid (the Adjutant of the 1st Battalion) as 'Our small regulation half-moon sabre... better calculated to shave a lady's maid than a Frenchman's head'. In Kincaid's case at Wateroo, the effeciveness of the sword was of little consequence; His sword had rusted solid in its scabbard due to the heavy rain!

Present at Waterloo were the 1st and 2nd Battalions of the 95th, plus two companies from the 3rd Battalion, a total of 1,322 Officers and Men. By the end of this day of battle they had suffered 35 officers and 482 men as casualties.
 
After the Napoleonic Wars, Baker rifles were supplied to Mexico, particularly the early models that accepted the same sized ball as the 0.69 "Brown Bess" smooth-bore muskets. Some of the Mexican Cazadores light infantry were equipped with these rifles as well as second-hand kit from the British Army (likely from the 95th).

Mexican Cazadores and British made Baker rifles (probably some used previously by the 95th) saw action at the Alamo.

So some of the same Baker rifles were used at Napoleon’s Waterloo and Santa Anna’s Waterloo at San Jacinto.

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/the-95th-rifles-at-waterloo.10268/ (https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/the-95th-rifles-at-waterloo.10268/)

Lol.  I like it.
Title: Re: Austin city report on Confederate monuments suggests renaming city
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 30, 2018, 10:45:33 pm
Just find some black historical figure with the last name of "Austin" and declare the city is now named after him.

It's what King County (Seattle) did.   They simply declared now that the county is named after Martin Luther King.
That is rich.