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Title: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 01:06:26 pm
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/329527-obama-to-address-aca-site-problems (http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/329527-obama-to-address-aca-site-problems)


ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden (Video)
By Justin Sink - 10/20/13 05:12 PM ET



President Obama "will directly address the technical problems" with the ObamaCare website during a Rose Garden event Monday morning, according to a White House official.

The president will discuss work continuing "around the clock" to improve the website, which has been plagued by problems since its launch earlier this month. According to the White House official, the president and his team find those troubles "unacceptable."

The official said the president will be joined by "consumers, small business owners, and pharmacists," including individuals who have already enrolled in ObamaCare online.

Many individuals have reported issues creating accounts on the website, which allows uninsured Americans to shop for health insurance. Healthcare providers have also complained that the government has turned over error-riddled data for those Americans who are able to successfully purchase coverage on the exchange.

Lawmakers from both sides of the aisle have expressed outrage with persistent problems. The House Energy and Commerce Committee plans to hold a hearing on the website's issues during the week.

On Sunday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the issue "has to be fixed."

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Pat Roberts (R-Kansas) have called for the resignation of Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sibelius over the issues.

In a blog post on Sunday, HHS said it had called in "some of the best and brightest" to help iron out the technical glitches.

“We have updated the site several times with new code that includes bug fixes that have greatly improved the HealthCare.gov experience,” the agency said. “Today, more and more individuals are successfully creating accounts, logging in, and moving on to apply for coverage and shop for plans. We're proud of these quick improvements, but we know there's still more work to be done.”

The White House said the president will also stress that the Affordable Care Act is "much more than just a website" in the event.

"The product – quality, affordable insurance – is good, and if anything, the interest and demand at the launch of HealthCare.gov proves just how urgently Americans want and need access to these new health care options," the White House official argued.

Despite the technical issues that have plagued the opening weeks of the new exchanges, the White House has been eager to highlight the intense interest in the marketplaces.

According to the White House, there have been more than 19 million unique visits to the website since its launch this month. And an administration official said Saturday that nearly a half million Americans have begun shopping for insurance on the site, although the White House did not announce how many of this individuals had successfully purchased coverage.

Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mountaineer on October 21, 2013, 01:08:39 pm
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The official said the president will be joined by "consumers, small business owners, and pharmacists," including individuals who have already enrolled in ObamaCare online.
So we're paying to fly to D.C. these 20* or so people from places near and far? I trust hotels and meals are included, at our expense.  **nononono*

*however many actually succeeded in signing up, that is.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 01:17:37 pm
So we're paying to fly to D.C. these 20* or so people from places near and far? I trust hotels and meals are included, at our expense.  **nononono*

*however many actually succeeded in signing up, that is.

What makes you think they will be people who actually managed to sign up?

Just curious.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mountaineer on October 21, 2013, 01:19:24 pm
That's how they were described ("individuals who have already enrolled in ObamaCare online") but I wouldn't bet on it.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 01:23:12 pm
That's how they were described ("individuals who have already enrolled in ObamaCare online") but I wouldn't bet on it.

LOL! Neither would I!
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 01:49:21 pm
Obama will call healthcare website unacceptable in speech on Monday and says the 'best and brightest' techies will be called in to try to fix the bugs

     President Barack Obama will declare Healthcare.gov glitches 'unacceptable' in White House address on Monday
    He will also cover steps his administration has taken to fix bugs
    The online portal, launched October 1, gives access to health insurance exchanges or marketplaces
    The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) says updates will include new code to fix bugs
    The HHS says the initial consumer experience has 'not lived up to expectations'

By Reuters Reporter

PUBLISHED: 17:05 EST, 20 October 2013 | UPDATED: 00:29 EST, 21 October 2013

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2469612/Obama-healthcare-website-glitches-unacceptable-best-brightest-techies-try-fix-bugs.html#ixzz2iMe0zEyo

Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:28:48 pm
John Nolte ‏@NolteNC 1m

Obama did 2 things to push OCare enrollment: Postponed biz mandate, forced insurers to cancel hundreds of thousands (millions?) of policies.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:31:20 pm
Laura Ingraham ‏@IngrahamAngle 56s

Sebelius must go if Obama is to be seen as serious about fixing this Obamacare disaster. Wagon circling is what Bush did--waste of capital.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:32:59 pm
Jim Acosta ‏@JimAcostaCNN 49s

Embattled Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is on hand for POTUS event.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:35:33 pm
House GOP ‏@gopconference 40s

Obamacare: A bad product that you will be fined for if you don't buy
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:36:02 pm
Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 6s

PresObama says: Thousands are signing up for Obamacare at http://healthcare.gov  and saving money as we speak
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:36:19 pm
Ezra Klein ‏@ezraklein 33s

"http://HealthCare.gov  hasn't worked as smoothly as it was supposed to work." That's an understatement.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:36:41 pm
Moe Lane ‏@moelane 35s

Some of those #obamacare props are workers?
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:37:11 pm
Zach Wolf ‏@zbyronwolf 14s

Obama - "The affordable care act is not just a website." He's not calling it Obamacare today.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:37:37 pm
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 42s

Also, can you imagine the president himself standing up there micromanaging this thing -- instructing us poor rubes how to sign up? Amazing.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:38:05 pm
T. Becket Adams ‏@BecketAdams 7s

Who the hell is clapping at this thing?
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:38:58 pm
Amy Lutz ‏@amylutz4 34s

It looks like @BarackObama found the 12 people who were actually able to enroll.




Katy Abram ‏@katyabram 9s

where are the people who have lost the coverage they like due to Obamacare?
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:39:59 pm
Mark Knoller ?@markknoller 13s

Pres Obama stresses that some ObamaCare benefits already in effect such as free preventive care tests; deeper Rx discounts for seniors.




Oceander Loesch ?@DLoesch 38s

So who is going to pay for the FUBAR site job by Sebelius?
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:41:39 pm
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 1m

How many times is he going to say, "That doesn't depend on a website."? My gosh this guy is … out of descriptors, never mind.



jimgeraghty ‏@jimgeraghty 1m

Serious question: Is Obama being accurately and fully briefed on the problems with the site? Because it sounds like he isn't.




Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 1m

PresObama says: We've created competition where it didn't exist before and now insurers really want your biz, "prices had to come down"
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:42:56 pm
Josh Kraushaar ‏@HotlineJosh 1m

The speech is almost exactly what the president has been saying, selling Ocare in the past (26yr olds covered, free birth control, et al)



John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz 38s

This is beginning to have a "heckuva job Brownie" quality



Philip Klein ‏@philipaklein 1m

REMINDER -- Nothing Obama says today matters. All that matters is whether they can fix tech problems, and soon.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:43:41 pm
This is nothing more than a pep rally for Obamacare.....same old crap
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:45:29 pm
Ed Morrissey ‏@EdMorrissey 1m

His voice is really pitchy today. Sounds like he's a bit desperate to make a sale.




jimgeraghty ‏@jimgeraghty 2m

He's bragging about web hits.




Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich 4s

Obama talked about healthcare now costing as much as "your cable bill" If you pay for cable instead of health insurance, ur doing it wrong
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:46:18 pm
Ezra Klein ‏@ezraklein 37s

So far, this seems weirdly similar to the speech Obama would've given if the exchanges were working fine




Byron York ‏@ByronYork 1m

Well? ..... RT @TheFix: By putting such a pro-Obama crowd at this speech, White House immediately allows GOP to dismiss it as pep rally.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:47:45 pm
S.M ‏@redsteeze 1m

Obama is counting web hits and letters written to him as successful enrollments.



Tim Scott ‏@SenatorTimScott 33s

Instead of holding a pep rally at the WH, the President should be addressing the serious problems Obamacare creates - its not just IT issues




Jim Acosta ‏@JimAcostaCNN 1m

Obama on tech problems: "there's no sugar coating it. The web site is too slow... Nobody is more frustrated than I am."




Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 29s

Glitches now kinks.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:49:05 pm
FloridaJayhawk ‏@HouseCracka 38s

Obama gave $635 million dollars to his crackhead friends to build the ObamaCare website. Follow the money to a black hole. Its gone




Jim DeMint ‏@JimDeMint 1m

Mr. President, these people aren't seeing lower prices




Mother Jones ‏@MotherJones 38s

Obama: "We are doing everything we can possibly do to get the website working better, faster, sooner. We've got people working overtime"
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2013, 03:49:42 pm
Thanks so much for the tweets ....  I tried to watch, but had to turn it off.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: olde north church on October 21, 2013, 03:50:06 pm
He had to run to the manager to see about getting you "a better deal"
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:50:18 pm
Peter Suderman ‏@petersuderman 1m

Open enrollment period is 6 months. But if you buy after Feb 15 next year, you could be hit with the mandate penalty



John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz 34s

BREAKING: Obama to limit tech surge to 30,000 codewriters



jimgeraghty ‏@jimgeraghty 1m

Obama's tech team, working 13 hours a day, will redouble their efforts to work 26 hours a day.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: EC on October 21, 2013, 03:51:42 pm
NBC News ‏@NBCNews 4m

"Nobody's more frustrated than I am." President Obama on technical glitches at http://Healthcare.gov . #ACA

Duh.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:53:59 pm
S.M ‏@redsteeze 46s

Shorter Obama - "This is going to cost more money"




Aaron Blake ‏@AaronBlakeWP 4m
This is the speech Obama would have been forced to give two weeks ago without the shutdown.




Charlie Spiering ‏@charliespiering 32s

Takes only 25 minutes on the phone.




Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush 41s

If you call now, we'll throw in a second Shamwow for nothing more than the cost of shipping and handling.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:55:05 pm
Guy Benson ‏@guypbenson 1m

"The product is good. The prices are good." Unreal.






Man he sounds like a really bad salesman.....even Fox is breaking away....Obama still rambling
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 03:57:34 pm
Jonah Goldberg ‏@JonahNRO 33s

Watching on MSNBC now, because you can count on them to keep the cameras on Obama no matter what.





LMAO....I refuse to watch MSNBC
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: EC on October 21, 2013, 03:59:12 pm
Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush 41s

If you call now, we'll throw in a second Shamwow for nothing more than the cost of shipping and handling.

Terms and conditions apply. Offer void where not prohibited. All shipping done from our Antarctic office. Goods may be substituted to an equivalent value. The value is set by the drunken lemur who runs the stockroom. returns accepted within 7 days of shipping. Average ship time is three weeks.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 04:00:23 pm
Jim Acosta ‏@JimAcostaCNN 2m

Obama: "it's time for folks to stop rooting for its failure."




Matt Yglesias ‏@mattyglesias 2m

Problem with these reassurances from Obama is the administration also had reassurances four weeks ago.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 04:01:40 pm
RickLeventhalFoxNews ‏@RickLeventhal 36s

so the girl standing directly behind the president almost fainted just now during his remarks. she was just escorted off the platform.





John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz 1m

BREAKING: America passes out too
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2013, 04:01:43 pm

Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush 41s

If you call now, we'll throw in a second Shamwow for nothing more than the cost of shipping and handling.


 :mauslaff:
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 04:01:50 pm
Guy Benson ‏@guypbenson 57s

Obama takes no questions, leaves to applause. Pep rally.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 04:04:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsTWDaDEmps&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsTWDaDEmps&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 04:05:23 pm
I don't know who wrote this but this was really bad...
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: R4 TrumPence on October 21, 2013, 04:08:49 pm
Thanks Myst! I had a call right as he started speaking, thank goodness...LOL 
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 21, 2013, 04:16:13 pm
RickLeventhalFoxNews ‏@RickLeventhal 36s

so the girl standing directly behind the president almost fainted just now during his remarks. she was just escorted off the platform.
I guess we know why he chose the daytime to do this. If America had to see this in prime time, it would have been a national embarrassment. Bad sales pitches, orchestrated applause and plants like a pep rally, and even a (probably scripted) fainter.

Instead, most people are at work and missed this joke.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: R4 TrumPence on October 21, 2013, 04:45:26 pm
From twitter:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXHVdjhIgAAPznZ.jpg)


 :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Rapunzel on October 21, 2013, 06:39:11 pm
So much for taking responsibility.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Olivia on October 21, 2013, 06:42:54 pm
Obama is such a manufactured fake!   :nometalk:
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mystery-ak on October 21, 2013, 06:46:56 pm
Senator Ted Cruz
Today President Obama will draw the media’s attention to a handful of persons who have applied for Obamacare while ignoring the untold number of Americans who are losing the plans they liked because of Obamacare.

Yesterday, Kaiser Health joined numerous other news outlets by confirming a new victim of Obamacare: Americans who are receiving cancellation notices from their insurers due to the Affordable Act.

“Health plans are sending hundreds of thousands of cancellation letters to people who buy their own coverage, frustrating some consumers who want to keep what they have and forcing others to buy more costly policies,” Kaiser Health News reported. “The main reason insurers offer is that the policies fall short of what the Affordable Care Act requires starting Jan. 1. Most are ending policies sold after the law passed in March 2010. At least a few are cancelling plans sold to people with pre-existing medical conditions.”

President Obama is sure to promise Americans that with more time, taxpayer money, and patience the law will perform better. Its failings, however, are not limited to its website or its rollout.

We already know Obamacare can’t live up to its promises. President Obama promised Americans that their premiums would go down, taxes would stay low, millions of jobs would be created, and if they liked their healthcare plans, they could keep them. Instead, premiums are rising, taxes are higher, the economy is sputtering, and people are losing their plans.

Obamacare is the nation’s biggest job killer and stands in the way of our country’s economic growth and prosperity. It should be defunded and repealed. President Obama should hear the pleas from the untold number of Americans who are losing their jobs, wages, and healthcare plans, and Congress should act immediately to stop Obamacare from inflicting any more damage on the country on our hard-working citizens.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 21, 2013, 06:47:10 pm
Obama is such a manufactured fake!   :nometalk:

Kind of like the rest of our political system.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: mountaineer on October 21, 2013, 08:48:05 pm
Kind of like the rest of our political system.
That's utter nonsense. Our political system - a constitutional representative republic, as envisioned by the founders - is just fine and is no way a "manufactured fake." The human beings who assume political office are imperfect, however, as this entire fallen world.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: musiclady on October 21, 2013, 09:10:59 pm
That's utter nonsense. Our political system - a constitutional representative republic, as envisioned by the founders - is just fine and is no way a "manufactured fake." The human beings who assume political office are imperfect, however, as this entire fallen world.

The typical liberal excuse for the Marxist at the top of their food chain, is that "everybody's doing it."

It's a cheap way to excuse the malfeasance of the left.

A game they all play to lay the blame for what their leaders do, on the rest of us.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 21, 2013, 09:21:32 pm
The typical liberal excuse for the Marxist at the top of their food chain, is that "everybody's doing it."

It's a cheap way to excuse the malfeasance of the left.

A game they all play to lay the blame for what their leaders do, on the rest of us.

I don't support or defend the "left" wing of our government at all.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 09:41:31 pm
I don't support or defend the "left" wing of our government at all.

Damn! Coulda fooled me!!!
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 21, 2013, 09:43:35 pm
Damn! Coulda fooled me!!!

A lot of my ideology comes from a left way of thinking, but I don't think the left wing of our government properly represents left wing thinkers in this country. A lot of you probably feel similar(ish) about the right wing.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 09:48:27 pm
A lot of my ideology comes from a left way of thinking, but I don't think the left wing of our government properly represents left wing thinkers in this country. A lot of you probably feel similar(ish) about the right wing.

We believe we ought to try CONSTITUTIONAL government again since we haven't done that for quite some time now and, beyond that,  just don't like crooks no matter what letter happens to be behind their name!
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: musiclady on October 21, 2013, 10:16:03 pm
Damn! Coulda fooled me!!!

Yep.  You got it Bigun.

He ain't fooling no one.    :patriot:
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: musiclady on October 21, 2013, 10:19:48 pm
We believe we ought to try CONSTITUTIONAL government again since we haven't done that for quite some time now and, beyond that,  just don't like crooks no matter what letter happens to be behind their name!

I have a problem with equating the two parties, no matter who tries to do it.

There are many honorable people with R's behind their names, and absolutely NONE in Washington with a "D" behind it.

My first comment is accurate.

It is a typical LEFTIST excuse when their guys break laws, spit on the Constitution, live immoral lives, and most of all, LIE, that all politicians are bad.

It's a false equivalency to make up for the fact that they support policies that are disastrous.

And ALL leftists support horrific policies.

ALL of them.
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 10:25:16 pm
I have a problem with equating the two parties, no matter who tries to do it.

There are many honorable people with R's behind their names, and absolutely NONE in Washington with a "D" behind it.

My first comment is accurate.

It is a typical LEFTIST excuse when their guys break laws, spit on the Constitution, live immoral lives, and most of all, LIE, that all politicians are bad.

It's a false equivalency to make up for the fact that they support policies that are disastrous.

And ALL leftists support horrific policies.

ALL of them.

Well said! I agree completely!
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: musiclady on October 21, 2013, 10:28:15 pm
Well said! I agree completely!

That's why, when a guy who claims to be a leftist comes on a conservative site declaring that he doesn't support the god of leftist policy, Barack Obama, it is healthy to be skeptical.

Telling the truth isn't exactly what one could call a liberal strong suit....   ^-^
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 21, 2013, 10:51:24 pm
We believe we ought to try CONSTITUTIONAL government again since we haven't done that for quite some time now and, beyond that,  just don't like crooks no matter what letter happens to be behind their name! 

You do have a way of cutting through the bull, Bigun!!!   Thank you!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 11:24:59 pm
You do have a way of cutting through the bull, Bigun!!!   Thank you!    :thumbsup:

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 :beer:
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: EC on October 21, 2013, 11:31:37 pm
We believe we ought to try CONSTITUTIONAL government again since we haven't done that for quite some time now and, beyond that,  just don't like crooks no matter what letter happens to be behind their name!

Totally spot on! Why "fix" something that isn't broken?
Title: Re: ObamaCare enrollees to join president in Rose Garden
Post by: musiclady on October 21, 2013, 11:35:21 pm
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 :beer:

Hey....................Right's right!    :patriot: