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Title: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: corbe on August 26, 2020, 08:52:02 pm
Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say

Matt Flegenheimer  1 hr ago


Four years ago, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas delivered the most stunning speech of the Republican National Convention, conspicuously declining to endorse Donald J. Trump, his former presidential primary rival, and urging viewers instead to “vote your conscience.”

This time, well.

“They didn’t ask me to participate,” Mr. Cruz said in a phone interview from his home in Houston. “So, I’m not on the speakers’ roster.”

Amid the whiplashing loyalties and perpetual game theory of Trump-era Republicanism, Mr. Cruz is at once a singular figure — former antagonist, wannabe successor, current ally generally (convention lineups notwithstanding) — and perhaps the most striking exemplar of a certain kind of 2020 party leader.

He would like to be there for whatever comes after Mr. Trump, openly aspiring to run for president again if the opportunity presents itself. And like most Republican peers, he is not quite sure what will be there on the other side.

Mr. Cruz’s bet, as in his runner-up finish in the 2016 primary, is that ideological conservatism will eventually win the day, despite the manifest indifference many Trump supporters have shown toward some traditional stated priorities of the right, like controlling deficits.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-didn-t-get-a-convention-invite-but-he-still-has-plenty-to-say/ar-BB18oRCF?ocid=msedgntp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-didn-t-get-a-convention-invite-but-he-still-has-plenty-to-say/ar-BB18oRCF?ocid=msedgntp)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: libertybele on August 26, 2020, 09:15:45 pm
Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say

Matt Flegenheimer  1 hr ago


Four years ago, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas delivered the most stunning speech of the Republican National Convention, conspicuously declining to endorse Donald J. Trump, his former presidential primary rival, and urging viewers instead to “vote your conscience.”

This time, well.

“They didn’t ask me to participate,” Mr. Cruz said in a phone interview from his home in Houston. “So, I’m not on the speakers’ roster.”

Amid the whiplashing loyalties and perpetual game theory of Trump-era Republicanism, Mr. Cruz is at once a singular figure — former antagonist, wannabe successor, current ally generally (convention lineups notwithstanding) — and perhaps the most striking exemplar of a certain kind of 2020 party leader.

He would like to be there for whatever comes after Mr. Trump, openly aspiring to run for president again if the opportunity presents itself. And like most Republican peers, he is not quite sure what will be there on the other side.

Mr. Cruz’s bet, as in his runner-up finish in the 2016 primary, is that ideological conservatism will eventually win the day, despite the manifest indifference many Trump supporters have shown toward some traditional stated priorities of the right, like controlling deficits.

<..snip..>

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-didn-t-get-a-convention-invite-but-he-still-has-plenty-to-say/ar-BB18oRCF?ocid=msedgntp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-didn-t-get-a-convention-invite-but-he-still-has-plenty-to-say/ar-BB18oRCF?ocid=msedgntp)

Their loss. It's a shame -- Cruz has been one of Trump's best supporters (when he's felt he's right) and has stood for doing right for country.

Sadly, I just don't think we'll see him run again.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: libertybele on August 26, 2020, 09:17:02 pm
They missed their opportunity to let the man speak:

Asked in the interview to make a convention-style case for Mr. Trump’s re-election on the spot, Mr. Cruz cited the “remarkable policy successes” of the last four years, paused for 12 seconds, then set off on an auditorium-ready, fully-composed celebration of tax cuts, deregulation and the “historic economic boom” that preceded the coronavirus.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: libertybele on August 27, 2020, 12:26:18 am
Love Ted's facemask - still think it was poor judgement on the Trump campaign to omit him -- yet they invited the Turtle?  Giant faux pas.

(https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/cruzted_080420bc_lead.jpg?itok=TrI57zmM)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: corbe on August 27, 2020, 12:47:17 am
   I have admitted for the last 4 years that I suffer from Trump butthurt, yet no Trumper has ever admitted that Ted Cruz STILL pizzes them off, oh well.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 27, 2020, 02:09:53 am
Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say

Matt Flegenheimer  1 hr ago


Four years ago, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas delivered the most stunning speech of the Republican National Convention, conspicuously declining to endorse Donald J. Trump, his former presidential primary rival, and urging viewers instead to “vote your conscience.”

This time, well.

“They didn’t ask me to participate,” Mr. Cruz said in a phone interview from his home in Houston. “So, I’m not on the speakers’ roster.”

Amid the whiplashing loyalties and perpetual game theory of Trump-era Republicanism, Mr. Cruz is at once a singular figure — former antagonist, wannabe successor, current ally generally (convention lineups notwithstanding) — and perhaps the most striking exemplar of a certain kind of 2020 party leader.

He would like to be there for whatever comes after Mr. Trump, openly aspiring to run for president again if the opportunity presents itself. And like most Republican peers, he is not quite sure what will be there on the other side.

Mr. Cruz’s bet, as in his runner-up finish in the 2016 primary, is that ideological conservatism will eventually win the day, despite the manifest indifference many Trump supporters have shown toward some traditional stated priorities of the right, like controlling deficits.

<..snip..>

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-didn-t-get-a-convention-invite-but-he-still-has-plenty-to-say/ar-BB18oRCF?ocid=msedgntp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-didn-t-get-a-convention-invite-but-he-still-has-plenty-to-say/ar-BB18oRCF?ocid=msedgntp)


Because last time, even though, his speech was approved, TED CHANGED IT AND WAS UGLY TO Trump  candidate.....then went on A/F 1 to join OBAMA.   ONCE BURNED,  PEOPLE LEARN.    He cannot be trusted.  I still don't.
Ted knows....WHY.  It is a shame, you and media don't KNOW.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 27, 2020, 02:12:11 am
I hope Ted does NOT run again.  I would not vote for him.  NO PRINCIPLES.   NO HONOR.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: corbe on August 27, 2020, 02:22:12 am
   So Sen Cruz went on AF1 with the obamanation?  Please send me some of what your smoking, I've been out for over a week  @LegalAmerican   
   Incidentally you prove my point that that your Cruz butthurt is worse than my Trump butthurt.   :beer:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: Elderberry on August 27, 2020, 02:38:34 am
I had to look this up. Of course he was representing Texas, which he does so well.

Quote
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/ted-cruz-obama-dallas-air-force-one-225408 (https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/ted-cruz-obama-dallas-air-force-one-225408)


Cruz will fly with Obama to Dallas on Air Force One

By BURGESS EVERETT and SEUNG MIN KIM

07/12/2016 10:47 AM EDT

In a dramatic display of bipartisan unity after a horrific tragedy, Ted Cruz will accompany President Barack Obama aboard Air Force One to Dallas on Tuesday, the Texas senator's office said.

Cruz and Obama have long been bitter ideological rivals, with Cruz leading the charge to try to defund Obama's signature health care law and tank his immigration proposals — Cruz even confronted Obama personally about Obamacare in 2013. But the shooting deaths of five police officers in Dallas are bringing the president and conservative star together in the name of national togetherness.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: corbe on August 27, 2020, 02:45:41 am
    OPPs, I sincerely apologize @LegalAmerican
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: dancer on August 27, 2020, 04:11:46 am
Their loss. It's a shame -- Cruz has been one of Trump's best supporters (when he's felt he's right) and has stood for doing right for country.

Sadly, I just don't think we'll see him run again.
Would you trust him to give your speech after that betrayal if it happened to you?  I wouldn't. 
As for his new record, he beats feet to grab cameras to try to rebuild support he lost, not because he agrees with the President.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: dancer on August 27, 2020, 04:12:55 am
   I have admitted for the last 4 years that I suffer from Trump butthurt, yet no Trumper has ever admitted that Ted Cruz STILL pizzes them off, oh well.
I just did, corbe.  :)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 27, 2020, 04:16:19 am
Would you trust him to give your speech after that betrayal if it happened to you?  I wouldn't. 
As for his new record, he beats feet to grab cameras to try to rebuild support he lost, not because he agrees with the President.

 :thumbsup:

Ben Carson and Marco Rubio are not happy with what TED did,  to them,  either !  Just a bit too sleazy more me.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: dancer on August 27, 2020, 04:23:51 am
:thumbsup:

Ben Carson and Marco Rubio are not happy with what TED did,  to them,  either !  Just a bit too sleazy more me.
:beer:
Title: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: catfish1957 on August 27, 2020, 06:16:07 pm
https://nypost.com/2020/08/27/ted-cruz-wasnt-invited-to-speak-at-2020-rnc/ (https://nypost.com/2020/08/27/ted-cruz-wasnt-invited-to-speak-at-2020-rnc/)

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Sen. Ted Cruz delivered one of the most talked-about speeches at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

This time around, he tells the New York Times, he wasn’t invited.

“They didn’t ask me to participate. So, I’m not on the speakers’ roster,” Cruz (R-Texas) said in an interview published Wednesday.

The 2016 GOP presidential primary runner-up told the paper that he “would have been happy to” speak at this week’s convention if he had been asked.
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For anyone else who doesn't  believe POTUS is petty and an unnecessary grudge holder...

What a strategy...   Using spite to keep the best conservative voice in the country out of the mix.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: dfwgator on August 27, 2020, 06:27:44 pm
Speaking slots are not rewards.   This convention is not to preach to the converted, but to convince those sitting on the fence.  On that basis, it's been a huge success.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: EdinVA on August 27, 2020, 06:28:38 pm
Speaking slots are not rewards.   This convention is not to preach to the converted, but to convince those sitting on the fence.  On that basis, it's been a huge success.

 888high58888
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: mountaineer on August 27, 2020, 06:55:37 pm
I don't think having a prominent Senator would have been the way to go. This convention is mostly highlighting ordinary people, as well as those traditionally taken for granted by the Dems, and there are just so many speaking slots available.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: Sighlass on August 27, 2020, 07:37:57 pm
Speaking slots are not rewards.   This convention is not to preach to the converted, but to convince those sitting on the fence.  On that basis, it's been a huge success.

I haven't watched a drop of either convention... I would of watched Ted though.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: catfish1957 on August 27, 2020, 07:45:20 pm
Speaking slots are not rewards.   This convention is not to preach to the converted, but to convince those sitting on the fence.  On that basis, it's been a huge success.

OTOH..  What about at least one or two slots to energize the base? Two trains of thought, I guess.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: dfwgator on August 27, 2020, 07:47:10 pm
OTOH..  What about at least one or two slots to energize the base? Two trains of thought, I guess.

The fact that Ted struggled in Texas to defeat that loser, Beto, didn't help.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 27, 2020, 07:54:20 pm
This is the kind of story designed to get Republicans fighting each other.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 27, 2020, 08:04:27 pm
Topic Merged.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: skeeter on August 27, 2020, 08:09:24 pm
This is the kind of story designed to get Republicans fighting each other.

Exactly right.

Although the messages have been bedrock conservative, just about every speaker at this convention was aimed at an estranged voting block, most speakers who were elected politicians have been state level.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz wasn’t invited to speak at Republican National Convention
Post by: Bigun on August 27, 2020, 08:56:41 pm
I don't think having a prominent Senator would have been the way to go. This convention is mostly highlighting ordinary people, as well as those traditionally taken for granted by the Dems, and there are just so many speaking slots available.

And FWIW, I think that approach is working extremely well!  Which is why the left is apoplectic over it.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: DCPatriot on August 27, 2020, 09:15:29 pm
Come on, gang...you can do it!  Yet another thread about Ted Cruz. 

...only 400 more posts to go  !!!!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 27, 2020, 09:23:05 pm
Come on, gang...you can do it!  Yet another thread about Ted Cruz. 

...only 400 more posts to go  !!!!   :laugh:

I think everybody's over all that now.  Most recognize it's a distraction by the New York Post to get Republicans to squabble.  Ted's been a strong ally.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: catfish1957 on August 27, 2020, 09:33:07 pm
I think everybody's over all that now.  Most recognize it's a distraction by the New York Post to get Republicans to squabble.  Ted's been a strong ally.

He's been a steadfast ally, which is why I kind of view it as a snub.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: aligncare on August 27, 2020, 09:48:36 pm
I think everybody's over all that now.  Most recognize it's a distraction by the New York Post to get Republicans to squabble.  Ted's been a strong ally.

I hate to keep repeating it though it appears necessary. While I didn’t vote for Ted Cruz, if he were in the exact place and time and position as Donald Trump, I would support him to the hilt!

People got to get over their egos. We’re in a battle, with the forces of America’s traditions and values rising up to repel an insurgent force of disruptive and dangerous political change, with wrong ideas like socialism and communism, racial guilt and tribalism, class envy, ideas inconsistent with our historically successful, remarkably stable, constitutional, representative, republican form of government.

Get over petty personal animosities and focus on what’s at stake.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 27, 2020, 09:49:45 pm
I hate to keep repeating it though it appears necessary. If Ted Cruz were in the exact place and time and position as Donald Trump, while I didn’t vote for Cruz, I would support him to the hilt!

People got to get over their egos. We’re in a battle with the forces of America’s traditions and values, rising up to repel an insurgent force of disruptive and dangerous political change, wrong ideas like socialism and communism, racial guilt and tribalism, class envy, ideas inconsistent with our historically successful, remarkably stable, constitutional, representative, republican form of government.

Get over petty personal animosities and focus on what’s at stake.

I'm in total agreement. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 27, 2020, 09:50:58 pm
I hate to keep repeating it though it appears necessary. If Ted Cruz were in the exact place and time and position as Donald Trump, while I didn’t vote for Cruz, I would support him to the hilt!

People got to get over their egos. We’re in a battle with the forces of America’s traditions and values, rising up to repel an insurgent force of disruptive and dangerous political change, wrong ideas like socialism and communism, racial guilt and tribalism, class envy, ideas inconsistent with our historically successful, remarkably stable, constitutional, representative, republican form of government.

Get over petty personal animosities and focus on what’s at stake.

 :thumbsup:   goopo


Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 27, 2020, 09:51:30 pm
He's been a steadfast ally, which is why I kind of view it as a snub.

If Ted wanted to address the Convention, he could have asked and he would have been allowed to.  I think if no invitation was proffered, it was because they mutually agree not to do it to avoid making an issue of it.  Just between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.  There is no professional animosity there that I can see.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 28, 2020, 08:18:35 pm
I hate to keep repeating it though it appears necessary. If Ted Cruz were in the exact place and time and position as Donald Trump, while I didn’t vote for Cruz, I would support him to the hilt!

People got to get over their egos. We’re in a battle, with the forces of America’s traditions and values rising up to repel an insurgent force of disruptive and dangerous political change, with wrong ideas like socialism and communism, racial guilt and tribalism, class envy, ideas inconsistent with our historically successful, remarkably stable, constitutional, representative, republican form of government.

Get over petty personal animosities and focus on what’s at stake.

Agree.
I was pretty Anti-Trump and Pro-Cruz in 2016.
I got over it.
I'll vote for Trump and Cruz, either, or both, well, as long as they aren't running for the same office.
I can't vote twice.
I am not a Democrat....
 :cool:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Didn’t Get a Convention Invite, but He Still Has Plenty to Say (NYT)
Post by: libertybele on August 28, 2020, 08:21:57 pm
He's been a steadfast ally, which is why I kind of view it as a snub.

That's the way I see it.  It was a snub.  Trump's loss as I think some anti-Trump voters would see Cruz giving the Prez some praise and it would have helped with getting their votes.   Just my opinion -- and yes, I am still a Cruz fan...BIGLY!