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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: 240B on June 26, 2017, 04:39:22 pm

Title: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: 240B on June 26, 2017, 04:39:22 pm

Constitution
By Onan Coca 
June 26, 2017


A bombshell new study seems to lend credence to President Trump’s assertion that but for noncitizens voting illegally, he would have won the popular vote as well as the Electoral College vote.


If you remember, after winning in November, President Trump was immediately attacked for having “lost” the popular vote. In response, the President pointed out that millions of non-citizens likely voted against him and swung the popular vote to Hillary Clinton. The media laughed off the suggestion and painted the President as someone who couldn’t accept the reality that he had lost the popular vote…


Except, it seems that the President has more evidence to support his opinion than the media does to support theirs.


(more)
http://constitution.com/bombshell-study-trump-right-noncitizens-kept-winning-popular-vote/
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 26, 2017, 05:09:51 pm
TTTT

Article is well worth reading in full.  Thanks for posting @240B !!



Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: 240B on June 26, 2017, 05:48:17 pm
TTTT

Article is well worth reading in full.  Thanks for posting @240B !!


I agree. I was especially impressed by how well sourced it was, from very respectable outlets.


It's not Rush Limbaugh or Alex Jones. This is the real deal.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: Sanguine on June 26, 2017, 06:11:25 pm
For later.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2017, 06:24:29 pm
Constitution
By Onan Coca 
June 26, 2017


A bombshell new study seems to lend credence to President Trump’s assertion that but for noncitizens voting illegally, he would have won the popular vote as well as the Electoral College vote.


If you remember, after winning in November, President Trump was immediately attacked for having “lost” the popular vote. In response, the President pointed out that millions of non-citizens likely voted against him and swung the popular vote to Hillary Clinton. The media laughed off the suggestion and painted the President as someone who couldn’t accept the reality that he had lost the popular vote…


Except, it seems that the President has more evidence to support his opinion than the media does to support theirs.


(more)
http://constitution.com/bombshell-study-trump-right-noncitizens-kept-winning-popular-vote/

Yet another inconvenient truth and fact...  that the idiot left will now proceed to totally ignore.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: Suppressed on June 26, 2017, 06:26:55 pm
Article doesn't support the headline, and the study doesn't support the article.  "Up to . . ." doesn't mean that's a real number.  The range of possible fraud was broad, and most of that range doesn't support the claim.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: Cripplecreek on June 26, 2017, 06:31:45 pm
Article doesn't support the headline, and the study doesn't support the article.  "Up to . . ." doesn't mean that's a real number.  The range of possible fraud was broad, and most of that range doesn't support the claim.

Yeah, I've noticed that these stories making the claim that Trump was cheated actually say what could have happened rather than what did happen.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: anubias on June 26, 2017, 06:33:48 pm
Non-citizen voting has to be stopped regardless of the numbers.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: kevindavis007 on June 26, 2017, 08:25:49 pm
Article doesn't support the headline, and the study doesn't support the article.  "Up to . . ." doesn't mean that's a real number.  The range of possible fraud was broad, and most of that range doesn't support the claim.


Also, the site it is on seems kinda questonable..
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: Night Hides Not on June 26, 2017, 08:48:37 pm
Article doesn't support the headline, and the study doesn't support the article.  "Up to . . ." doesn't mean that's a real number.  The range of possible fraud was broad, and most of that range doesn't support the claim.

@Suppressed
@Cripplecreek
@kevindavis

Thanks, I thought I was the Lone Ranger out there. Doesn't mean federal, state, and local governments shouldn't be doing more to ensure that only legal voters vote.

It's befuddling to me: MSM has gone all in on the Russians working for Trump's victory, while showing complete disregard for the issue of noncitizens voting.

Then again, they've been very quiet as regards Obama doing nothing when notified of the Russian hackings.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: DiogenesLamp on June 26, 2017, 09:50:52 pm
@Suppressed
@Cripplecreek
@kevindavis

Thanks, I thought I was the Lone Ranger out there. Doesn't mean federal, state, and local governments shouldn't be doing more to ensure that only legal voters vote.

It's befuddling to me: MSM has gone all in on the Russians working for Trump's victory, while showing complete disregard for the issue of noncitizens voting.

Then again, they've been very quiet as regards Obama doing nothing when notified of the Russian hackings.



If the media focused on illegals voting,  on illegals taking jobs away from Americans,  on illegals getting welfare and other state benefits,   if they focused on this sort of thing for days,  weeks and years,  you can bet the American people would be furious about it and demanding action to stop it.   


My point here is to show how the media works it's power.    It sways elections by what it focuses on,  and also by what it refuses to cover. 



As Iowahawk (David Burge) said:  "Journalism is about covering important stories.... with a pillow.... till they stop moving."



Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: Suppressed on June 26, 2017, 10:37:52 pm
Doesn't mean federal, state, and local governments shouldn't be doing more to ensure that only legal voters vote.
Agreed, @Night Hides Not
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: TomSea on June 27, 2017, 01:15:14 am
Constitution.com sounds like it should have some solid research and articles but they have been caught before; but I think there are a few stories like this out there right now if one checks the news.

In the past, we had newspapers, nowadays, we have the web and some articles are very amateurish.  It's not much different than if one of us wrote something and some of these websites encourage readers to provide articles.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 27, 2017, 01:32:51 am
What is the bombshell?

We do not elect in this country by winning a popular vote.

Might was well say the best groomed person is the winner.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: EC on June 27, 2017, 09:49:43 am
What is the bombshell?

We do not elect in this country by winning a popular vote.

Might was well say the best groomed person is the winner.

It usually is. Saw it somewhere (One of Scott Adams' books I think, not sure) that the tallest candidate with the best hair usually winds up winning.
Title: Re: Bombshell Study: Trump was Right, Noncitizens Kept Him from Winning the Popular Vote
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 27, 2017, 05:08:16 pm
It usually is. Saw it somewhere (One of Scott Adams' books I think, not sure) that the tallest candidate with the best hair usually winds up winning.
That seemingly is better than flogging the Dem talking point that the election was 'Stolen'.