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Barr doesn't expect Obama, Biden criminal investigations
By Morgan Chalfant - 05/18/20 12:14 PM EDT
Attorney General William Barr said Monday that he does not expect a criminal investigation of former President Obama or former Vice President Joe Biden to result from the probe undertaken by U.S Attorney John Durham.
“Based on the information I have today, I don’t expect Mr. Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man,†Barr told reporters at the Justice Department. “Our concern over potential criminality is focused on others.â€
Barr was asked about President Trump’s recent remarks encouraging investigations into Obama and other officials from the previous administration. The president suggested they were involved in criminal wrongdoing in connection with the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498306-barr-doesnt-expect-durham-probe-to-lead-to-criminal-investigation-of
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Then what's the point.. 888mouth
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Barr has proven to be useless. What has he done? Nothing. The only thing that he has done is signal to the DEMS that they are unstoppable and free to do whatever they want without any repercussions. Meanwhile our President has been through the wringer, millions of taxpayer dollars spent, and everyone from Obama on down is going to get away with it. Two sets of rules continues; one for the DEMS and one for the GOP. IMHO Trump hired yet another loser.
I have little doubt that Trump is going to lose the election in 2020 due to fraud and corruption.
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Just throwing this out there; maybe a head fake? Even after saying it, sounds implausible even to me.
Probably the simplest answer is, tradition. America doesn’t go after its ex-presidents no matter how wrong or corrupt or evil they were.
We prefer to move on.
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Barr has proven to be useless. What has he done? Nothing. The only thing that he has done is signal to the DEMS that they are unstoppable and free to do whatever they want without any repercussions. Meanwhile our President has been through the wringer, millions of taxpayer dollars spent, and everyone from Obama on down is going to get away with it. Two sets of rules continues; one for the DEMS and one for the GOP. IMHO Trump hired yet another loser.
I have little doubt that Trump is going to lose the election in 2020 due to fraud and corruption.
My fear also especially since the rats are trying to change states voting procedures...
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Just throwing this out there; maybe a head fake? Even after saying it, sounds implausible even to me.
Probably the simplest answer is, tradition. America doesn’t go after its ex-presidents no matter how wrong or corrupt or evil they were.
We prefer to move on.
Oh, but you can bet that they will continue to hound Trump after he leaves office.
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So it is ok for the FBI to investigate the Trump team to see if there is a crime, but it is not ok for the FBI to investigate evidence of a crime against obama and biden???
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My fear also especially since the rats are trying to change states voting procedures...
It is my understanding that states must comply with federal voting laws. Ultimately the way that we vote would have to be changed at the federal level. Each state may implement certain procedures, but they still have to follow federal laws. That's why Pelosi is pushing for mail-in.
No one has stopped the DEMS from getting what they want. The GOP has failed us miserably. At best we have perhaps a dozen Congressmen that are worth a darn. They did nothing to stop Obama when he was in office and they will do nothing to stop Biden and whoever takes his place once he steps down.
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Ryan J. Reilly
@ryanjreilly
AG Barr: “As long as I’m attorney general, the criminal justice system will not be used for partisan political ends."
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Oh, but you can bet that they will continue to hound Trump after he leaves office.
Yeah, I was gonna add that but thought that was a given. Trump threatened the status quo greater than any president since Reagan.
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So it is ok for the FBI to investigate the Trump team to see if there is a crime, but it is not ok for the FBI to investigate evidence of a crime against obama and biden???
Nope. Like I said; two sets of rules. One for the DEMS one for the GOP; especially if your'e affiliated with Trump.
Sorry, but now that Barr has announced that he's not going after Obama nor Biden, I think we can officially say we've lost this Republic. Certainly there hasn't been any resolution via the ballot box. Just my opinion.
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Nope. Like I said; two sets of rules. One for the DEMS one for the GOP; especially if your'e affiliated with Trump.
Sorry, but now that Barr has announced that he's not going after Obama nor Biden, I think we can officially say we've lost this Republic. Certainly there hasn't been any resolution via the ballot box. Just my opinion.
And no way to prevent it from happening again, which worries me more than obama/biden.
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And no way to prevent it from happening again, which worries me more than obama/biden.
Short of a miracle no and definitely not by our votes.
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I have little doubt that Trump is going to lose the election in 2020 due to fraud and corruption.
Let's not surrender just yet. We know what they're planning, the onus is on us to vote in numbers like our lives depended on it.
Look at CA25 ... not only did Newsom announce there would be mail-in voting (and mailed everyone a ballot) --- once he saw Garcia was leading Newsom opened an in-person voting poll in one democrat stronghold -- only.
And Garcia still won--bigly; so they can be beat.
@EdinVA @libertybele
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More Barr: Durham’s looking at potential crimes in Crossfire Hurricane, but don’t expect Obama or Biden to be targeted
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/05/18/barr-durhams-looking-potential-crimes-crossfire-hurricane-dont-expect-obama-biden-targeted/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=barr-durhams-looking-potential-crimes-crossfire-hurricane-dont-expect-obama-biden-targeted&utm_content=0&utm_campaign=PostPromoterPro
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Let's not surrender just yet. We know what they're planning, the onus is on us to vote in numbers like our lives depended on it.
Look at CA25 ... not only did Newsom announce there would be mail-in voting (and mailed everyone a ballot) --- once he saw Garcia was leading Newsom opened an in-person voting poll in one democrat stronghold -- only.
And Garcia still won--bigly; so they can be beat.
@EdinVA @libertybele
@Right_in_Virginia
Yes, they can be beat, but I am not sure the country can take another 5 years like the last ones...
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Just throwing this out there; maybe a head fake? Even after saying it, sounds implausible even to me.
Probably the simplest answer is, tradition. America doesn’t go after its ex-presidents no matter how wrong or corrupt or evil they were.
We prefer to move on.
I think Barr has to say what he did about O'Bastard and Biteme at this point, whether it's true or not. As Clappass would have put it, "It's the least untruthful answer."
Some pillars of O'Bastard are going to have to be knocked over before Barr goes around saying Zero's a target.
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@Right_in_Virginia
Yes, they can be beat, but I am not sure the country can take another 5 years like the last ones...
I don't understand your point @EdinVA
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Let's not surrender just yet. We know what they're planning, the onus is on us to vote in numbers like our lives depended on it.
Look at CA25 ... not only did Newsom announce there would be mail-in voting (and mailed everyone a ballot) --- once he saw Garcia was leading Newsom opened an in-person voting poll in one democrat stronghold -- only.
And Garcia still won--bigly; so they can be beat.
@EdinVA @libertybele
Sure, there is always hope. Consider though that CA25 is just one special election. We're talking about fraud and corruption on a national scale should the nation go to mail-in voting .... I'm thinking it may also go to on-line voting -- which would be controlled by Google or Microsoft or a similar entity.
There still is that glimmer of hope that we won't see a second wave of this virus or some other 'collusion' drummed up by the leftists and that we'll see people going to the polls in November; however, I'm not holding my breath. It depends really on how much the DEMS/DNC push for mail-in or on-line voting. They always eventually seem to get their way.
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I don't understand your point @EdinVA
@Right_in_Virginia
All of the not my president, falsified impeachments, media hysteria, congressional dishonesty and illegal career federal employee acts...
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I think Barr has to say what he did about O'Bastard and Biteme at this point, whether it's true or not. As Clappass would have put it, "It's the least untruthful answer."
Some pillars of O'Bastard are going to have to be knocked over before Barr goes around saying Zero's a target.
Well ... I think that's a pipe dream. Barr hasn't done anything yet; he's been all hot air and not much else. He continues to play the game of smoke and mirrors.
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I don't understand your point @EdinVA
Our civil 'Social War' won't remain a 'Cold' war.
They already want to label the armed protestors in Michigan "Domestic Terrorists". Like The Weathermen, Black Seals or something. :laugh:
And this is not only the Madam Governor, but Hillary Clinton chimed in too!
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Sure, there is always hope. Consider though that CA25 is just one special election. We're talking about fraud and corruption on a national scale should the nation go to mail-in voting ....
Let's narrow this down a little. We're talking about fraud and corruption in the battleground states. Red will stay red and blue is a lost cause. (Sure, the electoral college takes another hit, but I'm pushing that off the plate for 2020)
I see a great big glimmer of hope in the results for CA25 because Newsome tried to win this at the last moment by adding that one in-person polling place in a deeply blue precinct. This was the best fraud setup in the country --- and it wasn't enough.
The American right of center voter is awake ... and no one's better at lighting a fire under them than Donald Trump.
We're awake, so is the RNC --- the chairwoman has been on this like white on rice and the RNC GOTV is the envy of the demonrats -- especially in the battlegrounds.
There are enough of us to win this race, and the House and keep the Senate. We lose because of apathy and ego-based voting.
@libertybele
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Let's narrow this down a little. We're talking about fraud and corruption in the battleground states. Red will stay red and blue is a lost cause. (Sure, the electoral college takes another hit, but I'm pushing that off the plate for 2020)
I see a great big glimmer of hope in the results for CA25 because Newsome tried to win this at the last moment by adding that one in-person polling place in a deeply blue precinct. This was the best fraud setup in the country --- and it wasn't enough.
The American right of center voter is awake ... and no one's better at lighting a fire under them than Donald Trump.
We're awake, so is the RNC --- the chairwoman has been on this like white on rice and the RNC GOTV is the envy of the demonrats -- especially in the battlegrounds.
There are enough of us to win this race, and the House and keep the Senate. We lose because of apathy and ego-based voting.
@libertybele
I appreciate your optimism @Right_in_Virginia
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Daily Caller
@DailyCaller
AG Bill Barr:
“What happened to the President in the 2016 Election.. was abhorrent, it was a grave injustice and it was unprecedented in American history."
(Must see) Video at link: https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1262427846221410306
1:00 PM · May 18, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Video is four minutes ... well worth viewing @mystery-ak
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I appreciate your optimism @Right_in_Virginia
I just hope my faith in many here is not misplaced. happy77
@libertybele
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Please watch the video here:
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1262427846221410306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
@libertybele
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Video is four minutes ... well worth viewing @mystery-ak
No, it was not an abuse of power, it was an attempted coup de ta.... Which is a federal crime... go back to sleep barr..
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYUWeADXYAIYVCz?format=jpg&name=small)
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Just throwing this out there; maybe a head fake? Even after saying it, sounds implausible even to me.
Probably the simplest answer is, tradition. America doesn’t go after its ex-presidents no matter how wrong or corrupt or evil they were.
We prefer to move on.
Great analysis.
Trump doesn't direct Barr. Between a 2020 Trump win, of indicting Obama-Biden, give me the Potus win.
Further I think Indipendent voters might be turned away, from what would look like partisanship.
Finally I DO think Independent voters will want their jobs and economy back, instead of political partisan moves.
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Trump 'surprised' Barr sees no criminal probe into Obama, Biden
By Morgan Chalfant - 05/18/20 04:51 PM EDT
President Trump said that he was “surprised†by Attorney General William Barr’s statement that he doesn’t anticipate a criminal investigation into former President Obama or former Vice President Joe Biden.
“I think if it was me, they would do it. I think if for them, maybe, they’re not going to,†Trump told reporters Monday afternoon. “I’m surprised because Obama knew everything that was happening.â€
“I think it’s just a continuation of a double standard. I am surprised by it,†the president continued.
Barr earlier Monday said he didn’t expect U.S. attorney John Durham’s probe into the FBI’s decision-making in the Russia investigation to lead to criminal investigations of either Obama or Biden.
“Based on the information I have today, I don’t expect Mr. Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man,†Barr told reporters. “Our concern over potential criminality is focused on others.â€
Trump reiterated that he believed the former president's and vice president's actions were “illegal.â€
“I don’t say disappointed or not but I have no doubt that they were involved in this hoax, one of the worst things ever befall to this country in terms of political scandal. I have absolutely no doubt that Obama and Biden were involved, and a s to whether or not it is criminal, I think it would be very serious,†the president said.
“It was a takedown of a president, regardless of me, it happened to be me, and in my opinion it was an illegal takedown,†Trump said. “I’m going to let the attorney general make all of those decisions. I am going to stay out of it because it is the appropriate thing to do. I wouldn’t have to stay out of it as you know, but I’ve decided to stay out of it.â€
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498378-trump-surprised-barr-sees-no-probe-into-obama-biden
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Trump 'surprised' Barr sees no criminal probe into Obama, Biden
By Morgan Chalfant - 05/18/20 04:51 PM EDT
President Trump said that he was “surprised†by Attorney General William Barr’s statement that he doesn’t anticipate a criminal investigation into former President Obama or former Vice President Joe Biden.
“I think if it was me, they would do it. I think if for them, maybe, they’re not going to,†Trump told reporters Monday afternoon. “I’m surprised because Obama knew everything that was happening.â€
“I think it’s just a continuation of a double standard. I am surprised by it,†the president continued.
Barr earlier Monday said he didn’t expect U.S. attorney John Durham’s probe into the FBI’s decision-making in the Russia investigation to lead to criminal investigations of either Obama or Biden.
“Based on the information I have today, I don’t expect Mr. Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man,†Barr told reporters. “Our concern over potential criminality is focused on others.â€
Trump reiterated that he believed the former president's and vice president's actions were “illegal.â€
“I don’t say disappointed or not but I have no doubt that they were involved in this hoax, one of the worst things ever befall to this country in terms of political scandal. I have absolutely no doubt that Obama and Biden were involved, and a s to whether or not it is criminal, I think it would be very serious,†the president said.
“It was a takedown of a president, regardless of me, it happened to be me, and in my opinion it was an illegal takedown,†Trump said. “I’m going to let the attorney general make all of those decisions. I am going to stay out of it because it is the appropriate thing to do. I wouldn’t have to stay out of it as you know, but I’ve decided to stay out of it.â€
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498378-trump-surprised-barr-sees-no-probe-into-obama-biden
Whether or not Trump has the right to become involved or not, he should recognize the clear message; his AG is worthless. Just as worthless as Sessions was. Time to bring in a new AG; Cruz would be perfect.
Or, perhaps Mr. Barr realizes that he can play whatever game is more lucrative for him. He's 69 years old. He can retire any day and not have to worry about anything for the rest of his days if he plays the right game.
The other scenario -- Trump is just as involved in this charade as the globalists are; dangling the carrot in front of the American public and it really doesn't matter anymore who we vote for. I still see that as a possibility because of his picks; Sessions, Rosenstein, Barr, Giuliani, Fauci, Birx, Kushner ... the pattern is becoming obvious here to me.
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Dems tell Supreme Court of 'ongoing' new impeachment inquiry in effort to obtain Mueller materials
"The [House Judiciary] Committee’s investigation did not cease with the conclusion of the impeachment trial," the Democrats told the nine justices on Monday. "If this material reveals new evidence supporting the conclusion that President Trump committed impeachable offenses that are not covered by the articles adopted by the House, the committee will proceed accordingly — including, if necessary, by considering whether to recommend new articles of impeachment."https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-cite-ongoing-new-impeachment-inquiry-in-effort-to-obtain-mueller-materials
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So ... we have Barr doing nothing against the very people who are trying to overthrow this presidency. Wonderful.
Even IF Barr wanted to do something, now the leftists will cry foul...you know darn well they'll find something else to impeach him on.
Will the Senate vote the same way as last time, or will we see a President Pence emerge right before election time??
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There are others, reporting to Barr, in charge of the day to day investigations which may ultimately (but not yet) lead to Obama and Biden, right?
If so, isn't unseemly of Barr to jump the gun on any such speculation at this point? Especially as the left is daily accusing him of being Trump's wingman?
Not that it would matter to them should he come out tomorrow waving solid evidence and declaring he now sees a good reason for criminal investigations.
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Ryan J. Reilly
@ryanjreilly
AG Barr: “As long as I’m attorney general, the criminal justice system will not be used for partisan political ends."
Good.
Now in an unbiased and nonpartisan way, check and see who broke what law and prosecute accordingly.
Accusations of partisanship are moot if the evidence shows that the law was broken. The law doesn't say "Democrats can do this, and Republicans can't", nor vice-versa, so do your fricking job.
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So ... we have Barr doing nothing against the very people who are trying to overthrow this presidency. Wonderful.
Even IF Barr wanted to do something, now the leftists will cry foul...you know darn well they'll find something else to impeach him on.
Will the Senate vote the same way as last time, or will we see a President Pence emerge right before election time??
If democrats succeed in pulling off this charade and force Trump’s removal then they shouldn’t be surprised that Republicans—those with spines (I know it’s a tall order)—will seek to do the same to the next democrat president. That is if the political infrastructures are sill standing after 50 million pissed off MAGA supporters take to the streets of D.C. —where you’ll find me.