The Briefing Room
General Category => Trump Legal Investigations => Topic started by: Right_in_Virginia on March 24, 2019, 04:31:29 pm
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Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
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Thanks @Right_in_Virginia for starting this thread.
Let's try to keep the latest Mueller Report news here....please....[I will try too..lol]
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Sunday, 10:00 am
Subject: Travel pool report #3 — update on Mueller
Hogan Gidley confirms that, as of this morning, the White House has not yet received or been briefed on the Mueller report.
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Jazz Shaw †Verified account @JazzShaw
BREAKING. The Attorney General has left his house. Sly CNN reporters unable to confirm what he had for breakfast or how long he spent in the shower.
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CNN
Verified account @CNN
On the evening Robert Mueller submitted his report to the Justice Department, President Trump was on the tiled patio of Mar-a-Lago, bathed in golden light, with his wife and son Barron, who had reached teenagerhood two days earlier https://cnn.it/2Fw5Tkk
3:39 PM - 23 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1109585387259875329
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Jazz Shaw †Verified account @JazzShaw
BREAKING. The Attorney General has left his house. Sly CNN reporters unable to confirm what he had for breakfast or how long he spent in the shower.
AG Barr was wearing a short sleeve shirt... *hmmmm*
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The Germans wore gray.
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I agree. ALL documents from the investigation need to be released. Though I tend to think that any evidence they may have uncovered that would incriminate and implicate Bammy or Clinton has been destroyed.
Rep. Jordan calls for all documents from Mueller investigation to be released
Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, argued on Sunday that all the documents relating to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation should be released if the report is eventually made public.
While Jordan did not say if he would directly ask President Trump to release all the documents surrounding the investigation, he said that if Democrats want the information made public, then they should be prepared for everything involving Mueller’s investigation to be released.
“If the Democrats are going to call for all that to be released, then they should call for everything to be released," Jordan said during an appearance on ABC’s “This Week.â€
Jordan specifically demanded the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act application on former Trump aide Carter Page, "302" summaries from the FBI, and any information on briefings lawmakers received on the counterintelligence investigation into President Trump.
“We have asked for that information to be made public a long time ago,†he said.........
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-jordan-calls-for-all-documents-from-mueller-investigation-to-be-released (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-jordan-calls-for-all-documents-from-mueller-investigation-to-be-released)
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/breaking-bill-barr-and-rosenstein-are-at-doj-this-morning-report-could-be-released-today-video/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/breaking-bill-barr-and-rosenstein-are-at-doj-this-morning-report-could-be-released-today-video/)
Breaking: Bill Barr and Rosenstein are at DOJ This Morning – Report Could Be Released Today (VIDEO)
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Damn interesting group of people. I'd love to be a fly on the MAGA cap to hear this conversation :smokin:
Maggie Haberman
Verified account @maggieNYT
POTUS is golfing with Graham, Gowdy and Mick Mulvaney today, per person familiar with his plans.
11:26 AM - 24 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1109884121415847938?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Fox reporting that Barr will send a summary to Congress today......they won't like this..hehe
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Congress may get summary today - we won't. It is more likely the Huber investigation of the Justice Department is more likely to bring about charges against some in the Justice Department - if illegal actions were taken.
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Congress expects Sunday evening briefing on Mueller report findings
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/435512-congress-expects-sunday-evening-briefing-on-mueller-report-findings
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Huh?
Schiff: Despite no more Mueller indictments, there is 'significant evidence' of collusion
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/435509-schiff-despite-no-more-indictments-there-is-evidence-of
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Fox reporting that Barr will send a summary to Congress today......they won't like this..hehe
Standing by ... awaiting the Congressional leaks. :laugh:
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:laugh: I like this twist ....
Scott Adams
Verified account @ScottAdamsSays
Watching the responses of top Democrats to the #MuellerDud, we can no longer ignore the likelihood that they are puppets of Putin and have been instructed to sow discord in this country.
8:26 AM - 24 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1109838860102459393?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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DEMOCRATS VOW REVENGE FOR NO MUELLER INDICTMENT!!
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I trully would love to know what is in EVERYTHING?
About Obama, H. & W.J. Clinton, Lynch, Comey, Brennan, McCabe, Rosie, even Mueller himself....and others.
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@mystery-ak
Congress will receive the conclusions of the Mueller report within 30-45 minutes. It is 2:15 central time here.
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I trully would love to know what is in EVERYTHING?
About Obama, H. & W.J. Clinton, Lynch, Comey, Brennan, McCabe, Rosie, even Mueller himself....and others.
Evidence against them has long been destroyed. That is why Sessions and Rosenstein should have been fired a long time ago. Trump had the authority to do so and refrained. Why? I still question why Trump appointed Rosenstein and who advised him to do so? Even Sessions stated that Rosenstein and Mueller would basically be investigating themselves, yet Trump still kept them on. Why? Did Trump realize that the investigation would likely uncover Clinton/Bammy collusion??
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Countdown watch:
DEVELOPING: AG Barr will deliver his next report to Congress in 30-45 minutes, a US Justice Dept. official tells @NBCNews - @JuliaEAinsley / @PeteWilliamsNBC
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Huh?
Schiff: Despite no more Mueller indictments, there is 'significant evidence' of collusion
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/435509-schiff-despite-no-more-indictments-there-is-evidence-of
This guy makes AOC look like a genius.
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According to CNN, when Barr sends the letter to congresspeople, the letter will also be open to the public.
Will happen very soon now, not many minutes from now.
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The brief letter has been sent to congress - will be open to public shortly.
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JUST IN: Rep. Nadler on Twitter: “DOJ has just sent us a very brief letter about the Mueller report, which we will share shortly.â€
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It is a letter written by Barr, a short letter.
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Congress has received a four page letter from Barr.
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Fox reading the letter on air now.
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HowardKurtz
â€Verified account @HowardKurtz
AG Barr: Mueller decided not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment...on whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction of justice...Leaves unresolved
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Conclusion: No collusion.
Obstruction of Justice: No conclusion. Will leave it to the AG if the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime.
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On Drudge: Mueller does not exonerate Trump of obstruction or find that he committed crime
So basically he makes no conclusions either way?
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Here it is
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/AG%20March%2024%202019%20Letter%20to%20House%20and%20Senate%20Judiciary%20Committees.pdf
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AG bottom line: No action by the President, most done in public view, constitutes obstructive conduct or were done with corrupt intent.
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On Drudge: Mueller does not exonerate Trump of obstruction or find that he committed crime
So basically he makes no conclusions either way?
Correct..he leaves that to AG and Asst AG to determine if law was broken
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Correct..he leaves that to AG and Asst AG to determine if law was broken
@mystery-ak
From the letter the AG/Ass't AG bottom line: "No action by the President, most done in public view, constitutes obstructive conduct or were done with corrupt intent."
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Heads must be exploding in LIbLand
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I'm go check out DU to see how many are on suicide watch.
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Brett Bair (no Trump fan): "Complete and total vindication for the President".
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Huh?
Schiff: Despite no more Mueller indictments, there is 'significant evidence' of collusion
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/435509-schiff-despite-no-more-indictments-there-is-evidence-of (https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/435509-schiff-despite-no-more-indictments-there-is-evidence-of)
I am beginning to wonder seriously if Schiff suffers from retardation or some other mental disorder. His behavior is erratic and nonsensical. His Captain Ahab inspired monomaniacal obsession with charging Trump with every sin ever committed on Earth without any evidence whatsoever of anything, is...well...borderline insane.
Can anyone think of any other historical figure who was ever charged with all the sins of mankind, and then executed?
Historically, when you shake the status-quo, that is when you get into trouble.
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The Spectator Index
†@spectatorindex
5m5 minutes ago
BREAKING: Special Counsel Mueller issued more than 2,800 subpoenas and almost 500 search warrants as part of the investigation
4 replies 56 retweets 64 likes
and I might add 19 Dem prosecutors investigating Trump
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Chad Pergram
â€Verified account @ChadPergram
4m4 minutes ago
Barr letter to CapHill: "In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "'he evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference..'"
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David Brody
†@DavidBrodyCBN
5m5 minutes ago
The following line is from the actual report not Bill Barr’s letter: "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated" @CBNNews #MuellerDud
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Tammy Bruce
â€Verified account @HeyTammyBruce
34s34 seconds ago
This report makes clear @realDonaldTrump has been the target of a fraud meant to remove him from office. Part of what has kept that from happening is Trump’s own ability to keep his assertion of innocence public, for which he was also mocked & derided.
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Kurt Schlichter
â€Verified account @KurtSchlichter
4m4 minutes ago
DEMOCRATS RIGHT NOW:
"Uh, Mueller did not prove the negative about @realDonaldTrump obstructing justice in an investigation of something that never happened, which means that he must have obstructed something something something TREASON!!!!!!"
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Katie Benner
â€Verified account @ktbenner
46s46 seconds ago
Per a DOJ official: #Mueller was not consulted in the creation of this letter to Congress, nor was he at the department today. It was the product of Barr, Rosenstein and advisors including from the office of legal counsel.
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Collusion and obstruction:
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Jen Psaki
â€Verified account @jrpsaki
4m4 minutes ago
Big unresolved qs. 1. The report does not exonerate on whether or not @realDonaldTrump obstructed justice, 2. No explanation in letter of the mtgs with Russians, discolosure of polling data, openness to damaging intel.
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Jen Psaki
â€Verified account @jrpsaki
2m2 minutes ago
mueller also was not consulted on the letter
1 reply 1 retweet 16 likes
Jen Psaki
â€Verified account @jrpsaki
18s19 seconds ago
Not being involved in a criminal level of conspiracy does not make the behavior of @realDonaldTrump and his team presidential or appropriate
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Dan Bongino
â€Verified account @dbongino
47m47 minutes ago
Why is Adam Schiff still permitted to do cable news appearances by the producers of these shows? It’s now fact that he’s a discredited, second-rate conspiracy theorist with ZERO credibility. He needs to find a new line of work. He’s a fool.
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YOU GOT NOTHING!
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Send DHS/Secret Service SWAT teams or Seal Team Six to Comey's and Mueller's homes just before dawn.
Take them to Guantanamo Bay and video them getting waterboarded until they tell us everything they know.
Make Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett and James Clapper watch. In fact, put Clapper in the on-deck circle.
...that's what I would do if I were POTUS.
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Charlie Kirk
â€Verified account @charliekirk11
19m19 minutes ago
The media cannot be trusted
For 2 years they pushed a total and complete LIE to try to destroy Trump
44% of Americans think Trump colluded with Russia - a total lie!
This is the damage the media has done to our country
Journalism is dead, and Trump is winning!
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Josh Gerstein
â€Verified account @joshgerstein
16m16 minutes ago
Decision by Barr and Rosenstein to add a Trump-vindicating gloss to Mueller's assessment of the evidence on obstruction is sure to provoke a firestorm.
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Stephen Miller
â€Verified account @redsteeze
5m5 minutes ago
Comey, McCabe & company should be bending over backwards thanking that Dems hold the House right now.
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Josh Gerstein
â€Verified account @joshgerstein
16m16 minutes ago
Decision by Barr and Rosenstein to add a Trump-vindicating gloss to Mueller's assessment of the evidence on obstruction is sure to provoke a firestorm.
Democrats are going to grab this with their upper AND lower teeth and not let go.
Prediction: They lose the House in 2020.
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Jennifer Jacobs
@JenniferJJacobs
AG’s office says they didn’t involve White House in any review or discussion of Mueller report, @cstrohm reports.
Neither Trump nor his aides have been given the report.
But Barr’s chief of staff called WH counsel Emmet Flood at Mar-a-Lago at 3p and gave him readout of letter.
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I'm go check out DU to see how many are on suicide watch.
Lol...
shenmue
TICK TOCK, MOTHERF—KER
Mueller report is ON ITS WAY.
Then...
RandySF
1. Are you f—king kidding me?
Tommy_Carcetti
EVERYONE: 1) Calm down. 2) Breathe. 3) Accept the mystery (for now.)
DontBooVote
tRump wins. Again. SMH.
Nightwatcher
Brace for Fu—stick's gloat tweets.
PCIntern
Eventually these bastards die (as we ALL shall) of disease or old age or accident. And you know what else? Even as a humanist and an altruist and a clinician who gives his all to his patients no matter what their politics, attitudes, prejudices, or evil nature, because that's the job, I smile grimly yet happily to myself when these horrible human beings depart this mortal coil. And so it shall be eventually.
I just want to be around for the event...
Vinca
1. F-ck, f-ck, f-ck, f-ck, f-ck.
Crime f-cking pays.
I'm turning this shit off and watching DiY or NatGeo or something
I don't want to hear that orange bleep gloating.
BigmanPigman
Time to "Bind tRump" tonight: 12 midnight EST, 9 PM PST.
https://extranewsfeed.com/a-spell-to-bind-donald-trump-and-all-those-who-abet-him-february-24th-mass-ritual-51f3d94f62f4
Get out your orange candle, Tower card and ugly photo. Our spells are working!
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Rich Lowry
â€Verified account @RichLowry
20s21 seconds ago
The 3 biggest losers from the Mueller report in order—the media,the media, the media. It was obsessed & hysterical for 2 years, constantly suggesting the smoking-gun Russia revelation was just over the horizon, sometimes supporting its wished-for conclusion w/ erroneous reporting
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(((Rep. Nadler)))
â€Verified account @RepJerryNadler
14m14 minutes ago
In light of the very concerning discrepancies and final decision making at the Justice Department following the Special Counsel report, where Mueller did not exonerate the President, we will be calling Attorney General Barr in to testify before @HouseJudiciary in the near future.
(((Rep. Nadler)))
â€Verified account @RepJerryNadler
27m27 minutes ago
Special Counsel Mueller worked for 22 months to determine the extent to which President Trump obstructed justice. Attorney General Barr took 2 days to tell the American people that while the President is not exonerated, there will be no action by DOJ.
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Subject: In town print pool #1: Mueller report statement
Statement from Press Secretary Sarah Sanders:
“The Special Counsel did not find any collusion and did not find any obstruction. Attorney General Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein further determined there was no obstruction. The findings of the Department of Justice are a total and complete exoneration of the President of the United States.â€
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Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!
1:42 PM - 24 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1109918388133023744?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Happy Spin Day!!!
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Lol...
shenmue
TICK TOCK, MOTHERF—KER
Mueller report is ON ITS WAY.
Then...
RandySF
1. Are you f—king kidding me?
Tommy_Carcetti
EVERYONE: 1) Calm down. 2) Breathe. 3) Accept the mystery (for now.)
DontBooVote
tRump wins. Again. SMH.
Nightwatcher
Brace for Fu—stick's gloat tweets.
PCIntern
Eventually these bastards die (as we ALL shall) of disease or old age or accident. And you know what else? Even as a humanist and an altruist and a clinician who gives his all to his patients no matter what their politics, attitudes, prejudices, or evil nature, because that's the job, I smile grimly yet happily to myself when these horrible human beings depart this mortal coil. And so it shall be eventually.
I just want to be around for the event...
Vinca
1. F-ck, f-ck, f-ck, f-ck, f-ck.
Crime f-cking pays.
I'm turning this shit off and watching DiY or NatGeo or something
I don't want to hear that orange bleep gloating.
BigmanPigman
Time to "Bind tRump" tonight: 12 midnight EST, 9 PM PST.
https://extranewsfeed.com/a-spell-to-bind-donald-trump-and-all-those-who-abet-him-february-24th-mass-ritual-51f3d94f62f4
Get out your orange candle, Tower card and ugly photo. Our spells are working!
Geezzz ! You need a shower! And so do I now!
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YOU GOT NOTHING!
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LOL. The media get skunked again.
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Stephen Miller
â€Verified account @redsteeze
5m5 minutes ago
Comey, McCabe & company should be bending over backwards thanking that Dems hold the House right now.
Yeah, why? The president had said last December the Senate would hold hearings, to counter the anticipated House investigations. He also just said the original inquiry was illegal. As the Barr letter stated, other referrals were made and investigations by federal jurisdictions continue. If this is all ‘fruit of the poisonous tree,’ the original FISA application and official testimony would demonstrate that and stop it, immediately. Where are the Senate hearings and declassifications?
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Subject: Travel pool report 11 — Trump talks
Motorcade arrived at Palm Beach International at 4:45 pm.
Trump spoke briefly to reporters outside AF1
“After a long look, after a long investigation, after so many people have been so badly hurt, after not looking at the other side where a lot of bad things happened...it was just announced there was no collusion with Russia,†Trump said, calling the collusion allegations, “the most ridiculous thing ever.â€
“It was complete and total exonerationâ€
“It’s a shame that our country had to go through this. To be honest it’s a shame that your president had to go through this.â€
“This was an illegal takedown that failed and hopefully somebody is going to be looking at their other sideâ€
“It’s a complete exonerationâ€
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The vast attempt to undo the 2016 election has failed (https://spectator.us/undo-2016-election-mueller/?fbclid=IwAR0aL-jmX8F_PmWUl0vGN4kZl8UlK741aeccCTw3aZn-9xBTQtSBB4rStM4)
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Nadler: Mueller 'not exonerating' Trump in report
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/435529-nadler-mueller-not-exonerating-trump-in-report
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Nadler: Mueller 'not exonerating' Trump in report
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/435529-nadler-mueller-not-exonerating-trump-in-report
Guilty until proven innocent in other words?
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The vast attempt to undo the 2016 election has failed (https://spectator.us/undo-2016-election-mueller/?fbclid=IwAR0aL-jmX8F_PmWUl0vGN4kZl8UlK741aeccCTw3aZn-9xBTQtSBB4rStM4)
It has failed SO FAR. They have not given up by any account. All this means is 'like a fly on a window pane' they will just have to try a different attack. They will NEVER let up. In fact some Dems are saying that even if Trump left office altogether, they would continue the persecution of him, his family, and his acquaintances. They want his head on a platter. And no stupid, "lack of evidence", is ever going to stop them. They are obsessed, and have been driven insane with Trump Hate.
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Jim Acosta caught on cam in his dressing room...appears not to be taking this news well
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It has failed SO FAR. They have not given up by any account. All this means is 'like a fly on a window pane' they will just have to try a different attack. They will NEVER let up. In fact some Dems are saying that even if Trump left office altogether, they would continue the persecution of him, his family, and his acquaintances. They want his head on a platter. And no stupid, "lack of evidence", is ever going to stop them. They are obsessed, and have been driven insane with Trump Hate.
Excellent! This will hasten their complete demise and I cannot wait for that day to come.
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Geezzz ! You need a shower! And so do I now!
@Bigun
Lol, I had to do a lot of editing thanks to them.
Just offhand I’d say their spells aren’t working after all...
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Nadler: Mueller 'not exonerating' Trump in report
Jabba the Hut must have found out about that Matress tag incident back in 1993.
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@Bigun
Lol, I had to do a lot of editing thanks to them.
Just offhand I’d say their spells aren’t working after all...
@QueenCatofAragon
I eagerly await the retribution. I hope it is swift, thorough, and brutal!
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"To be paranoid means to believe in delusions of danger and persecution. If the danger is real, and the evidence credible, then it cannot be delusional. To ignore the evidence, and hope that it cannot be true, is more an evidence of mental illness."
William Blaze
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MERRY MUELLERMAS!!!!
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Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUNI_l0YSS0#)
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Pelosi, Schumer call for Mueller report to be released publicly
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/435539-pelosi-schumer-barrs-mueller-summary-raises-as-many-questions-as-it-answers
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George Conway hits Sarah Sanders, says Mueller report 'does not exonerate' Trump
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/435538-george-conway-hits-sarah-sanders-says-mueller-report-does-not
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Lets see it all and get it over with. What a waste of taxpayer money.
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George Conway hits Sarah Sanders, says Mueller report 'does not exonerate' Trump
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/435538-george-conway-hits-sarah-sanders-says-mueller-report-does-not
Guilty until proven innocent with these people, and not even then. Trumps guilty no matter what.
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Excellent! This will hasten their complete demise and I cannot wait for that day to come.
Yeah, all they had to do was turn around and look into the Dems, and they've found enough red meat to feed an Army. What a waste of money and time, but it did give the timid in the GOP cover to hide behind and stalled everything the People really wanted done. For the Dems, that was likely their intent. The GOP better win those House seats back in '20, and the White House, too (and keep the Senate). With FOX going over to the Left it isn't going to be easy.
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bele wrote:
"Evidence against them has long been destroyed."
I'm wondering if behind-the-scenes, that one reason this dragged on so long is BECAUSE they were carefully "gathering the evidence" that would implicate Clinton, Brennan, and others....
And then....
DESTROYING it.
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Did not catch the name of the commentator on CNN, but he made a good point. He stated the Dems cannot be upset that DOJ officials under Trump (Barr and Rosenstein) made the judgement on the obstruction portion, when they were perfectly fine with DOJ officials under Obama (Lynch and Comey) making the decision not to charge Hillary.
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That didn't take long. The Muller Report leaked.
https://www.scribd.com/document/402897279/The-Mueller-Report (https://www.scribd.com/document/402897279/The-Mueller-Report)
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bele wrote:
"Evidence against them has long been destroyed."
I'm wondering if behind-the-scenes, that one reason this dragged on so long is BECAUSE they were carefully "gathering the evidence" that would implicate Clinton, Brennan, and others....
And then....
DESTROYING it.
Absolutely. I have little doubt. My question still remains -- why did Trump appoint Rosenstein in the first place?
Trump is now again bringing up investigating Hillary, but I'd say that evidence is long gone.
Trump: I hope Barr will 'do what's fair' with regards to investigating Hillary Clinton
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/22/trump-barr-clinton-investigation-1232147 (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/22/trump-barr-clinton-investigation-1232147)
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Bookmark
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https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1109904720456568832
Jim Acosta is getting hammered
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George Conway hits Sarah Sanders, says Mueller report 'does not exonerate' Trump
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/435538-george-conway-hits-sarah-sanders-says-mueller-report-does-not
Hmmm.... I believe I see a divorce in the Conway family's future.
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Hmmm.... I believe I see a divorce in the Conway family's future.
He missed a perfectly good opportunity to shut up.
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Sarah Sanders â€
Verified account @PressSec
Democrats and their liberal media allies for two years slandered President @realDonaldTrump for “conspiring with Russia.†It was all a malicious, preposterous lie given wall to wall media coverage despite zero evidence. This should never again happen to an American President.
6:49 PM - 24 Mar 2019
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:2popcorn:
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Mueller delivers a win for Trump — Five Takeaways
The Hill, Mar 24, 2019
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435556-mueller-delivers-a-win-for-trump-five-takeaways
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Lots of whispers circulating in and around Washington D.C. regarding a Trump White House that is set to unleash an investigative push back against all those false accusors that have been peddling the dangerous and divisive Trump-Russia hoax for the last two years.
Word is members of both the Clinton and Obama gang are bracing for impact.
DEVELOPING…
Read more at http://dcwhispers.com/potus-trump-now-turns-to-d-c-swamp-and-says-my-turn/#8qUowdyrjH7Ad1QL.99 (http://dcwhispers.com/potus-trump-now-turns-to-d-c-swamp-and-says-my-turn/#8qUowdyrjH7Ad1QL.99)
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Lots of whispers circulating in and around Washington D.C. regarding a Trump White House that is set to unleash an investigative push back against all those false accusors that have been peddling the dangerous and divisive Trump-Russia hoax for the last two years.
Word is members of both the Clinton and Obama gang are bracing for impact.
DEVELOPING…
Read more at http://dcwhispers.com/potus-trump-now-turns-to-d-c-swamp-and-says-my-turn/#8qUowdyrjH7Ad1QL.99 (http://dcwhispers.com/potus-trump-now-turns-to-d-c-swamp-and-says-my-turn/#8qUowdyrjH7Ad1QL.99)
That would be OK with me. You? :cool: :patriot:
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Priceless 88devil
James Comey
Verified accountï‚™ @Comey
So many questions.
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Lindsey Graham
Verified account @LindseyGrahamSC
Lindsey Graham Retweeted James Comey
Could not agree more.
See you soon.
https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1109984734212513793
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That would be OK with me. You? :cool: :patriot:
Make it so @Cyber Liberty Make it so.
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Priceless 88devil
I liked Jonah Goldberg's comment too:
Jonah Goldberg
â€Verified account @JonahNRO
14m14 minutes ago
Jonah Goldberg Retweeted James Comey
My God, what does he see up in those treetops? Predator in partial cloak mode? Arboreal basset hounds? The head of Alfredo Garcia?
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I Eagerly await the retribution. I hope it is swift, through, and brutal.
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Priceless 88devil
James Comey
Verified accountï‚™ @Comey
So many questions.
Lindsey Graham
Verified account @LindseyGrahamSC
Lindsey Graham Retweeted James Comey
Could not agree more.
See you soon.
https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1109984734212513793
LOL! Priceless indeed! I'd pay money to see that POS being frogmarched in an orange jumpsuit! But the ones I REALLY want are Valarie Jarrett, Sally Yates, and Loretta Lynch!
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Ari Fleischer
Verified account @AriFleischer
Now that Mueller says there was no collusion, it is time to scrutinize the Obama Administration. They spied on a US campaign, wiretapped Americans, bit on the dossier and unmasked Flynn. What did Barack Obama know and what and when did he authorize it?
1:25 PM - 24 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1109914188066054144
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LOL! Priceless indeed! I'd pay money to see that POS being frogmarched in an orange jumpsuit! But the ones I REALLY want are Valarie Jarrett, Sally Yates, and Loretta Lynch!
Here's the twitter snapshot (suitable for framing) :laugh: @Bigun
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@mystery-ak
@Cyber Liberty
@roamer_1
@QueenCatofAragon
There will be “Q†activity ramping up on the net since the Mueller investigation is over; “Q†and his purveyors of doom say Trump will have thousands of “Deep State†people arrested and they will be taken to GITMO, have a military trial and be killed/hanged. And, he says, most of those arrested sold children, had sex with them, and ate them. And, Republican President George Bush ran one of the children rings and he will be arrested and killed (or he turned states’ evidence and won’t be killed). And, McCain was killed by Trump people because he was part of the child ring, and George H. W. Bush was also killed by Trump people due to his child ring. According to “Qâ€, most Dems who are in congress, plus everyone who worked at a high level in the Obama administration, plus many who were in the Justice Department, plus many who aren’t Trump lovers, are the “Deep State†and they will be wiped out. It is also said once Trump has completed wiping out the Deep State, he will have control of all of government and everyone will love him as God is beside him.
My opinion of “Q†and his on-line hypnosis of readers: If someone has committed a crime, charge that person and have a trial. If that person is convicted, then he/she is guilty and follow the law about the punishment for that crime. That is all one needs to know about people committing a crime. Since 2017, “Q†has spread on the net, accusations against many people, all of them Democrats besides the Bushes, and McCain, and anyone else who criticized Trump. If “Q†was right, would people stand for Trump arresting thousands, sending them to GITMO, supposedly have military trials and kill them? If Trump did this, who is Trump?
Today, I heard Trump say twice: “Hopefully someone will look at the other side.†Trump will start an investigation of everyone who worked on this case in the Justice Department. Going after the “Deep State†- who is everyone who did not support Trump. This is not over and won’t be until Trump is no longer in office and he won’t stop even then.
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I'm just waiting for the shackles and chains parade. Until then, It means little, except that Mueller is done whizzing away taxpayer money on a fishing expedition.
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That didn't take long. The Muller Report leaked.
https://www.scribd.com/document/402897279/The-Mueller-Report (https://www.scribd.com/document/402897279/The-Mueller-Report)
Lol, you got me... all bun and no meat... like an 80s Wendy's commercial.
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Once again, this man, Donald Trump, has caused probably the largest media and leftist whiff in my lifetime.
I have to hand it to the man. He caused the left to self-own like no one I've ever seen.
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Attorney General Sees No Case for Obstruction as Mueller Finds No Collusion With Russia
Fred Lucas / March 24, 2019
It’s no longer only President Donald Trump and his allies saying “no collusion.†Special counsel Robert Mueller has reached the same conclusion that the Trump campaign did not conspire with Moscow to gain advantage in the 2016 election.
Mueller also did not uncover actionable evidence in his 22-month probe that Trump sought to obstruct justice by impeding the probe, Attorney General William Barr said Sunday.
However, the special counsel didn’t make a determination on whether Trump obstructed justice. Barr said that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein determined there was no obstruction case.
But Trump claimed “complete and total exoneration†on both fronts, and said the investigation was the result of an “illegal takedown that failed.â€
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/24/attorney-general-sees-no-case-for-obstruction-as-mueller-finds-no-collusion-with-russia/?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell& (https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/24/attorney-general-sees-no-case-for-obstruction-as-mueller-finds-no-collusion-with-russia/?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell&)
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CNN Called Out for Misleading Report
2019-03-21 Source: TTN by: TTN Staff
By Ken Lund (Flickr: CNN Center, Atlanta, Georgia) [CC BY-SA 2.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0))], via
CNN was recently called out for a report where they lied about James Madison and the electoral college.
According to The Daily Wire:
On Wednesday, CNN, eager to push forward the current agenda of the Democratic Party, which is to abolish the Electoral College so that urban areas, which lean heavily Democratic, can dominate presidential elections, claimed that James Madison, the fourth president of the United States and the man known as the Father of the Constitution, called the Electoral College “evil.â€
The Electoral College has been debated since the days of James Madison, who called it "evil."
http://trumptrainnews.com/articles/cnn-called-out-for-misleading-report (http://trumptrainnews.com/articles/cnn-called-out-for-misleading-report)
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March 25, 2019
Sharyl Attkisson asks the key question post-Mueller report
By Thomas Lifson
Now that we know the entire theory of Trump-Russia “collusion†cooked up by the Hillary campaign was a pure fiction, it is time start inflicting the consequences on the miscreants. But that’s a process that could take time if and when AG Barr, or maybe US Attorney Peter Huber – commissioned by former AG Sessions to investigate possible FBI abuses – present evidence of criminality to a grand jury.
In the meantime, there is some posterior-kicking, aka public shaming, due. And, I think Sharyl Attkisson has identified the first targets in need of disgrace, especially because of where that disgrace will lead:
Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/03/sharyl_attkisson_asks_the_key_question_postmueller_report.html#ixzz5jBTVdIol (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/03/sharyl_attkisson_asks_the_key_question_postmueller_report.html#ixzz5jBTVdIol)
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Just a reminder: There is information in the report that cannot be released including grand jury testimony and grand jury probes of individuals not indicted.
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Nadler: 'We Have to Look for Abuses of Power. We Have to Look for Obstructions of Justice'
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
(CNSNews.com) - The end of the Mueller investigation does not end the various congressional investigations into President Trump. Far from it.
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, told "Fox News Sunday" that his committee has a "broader mandate" than Special Counsel Robert Mueller did: "So we have to look into abuses of power, we have to look into obstructions of justice. And that we will do, and we'll see where it goes -- we'll see where the facts take us."
Later on Sunday, in a series of tweets, Nadler wrote: "In light of the very concerning discrepancies and final decision making at the Justice Department following the Special Counsel report, where Mueller did not exonerate the President, we will be calling Attorney General Barr in to testify before @HouseJudiciary in the near future."
Source URL: https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/nadler-we-have-look-abuses-power-we-have-look-obstructions-justice (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/nadler-we-have-look-abuses-power-we-have-look-obstructions-justice)
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Schiff Will ‘Haul People Before Congress’ If Necessary; Won’t Rule Out Impeachment
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)
(CNSNews.com) - Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the head of the House intelligence committee, said on Sunday that Special Counsel Robert Mueller may not have had enough evidence to prosecute President Trump, "but that doesn't mean, of course, that there isn't compelling and incriminating evidence that should be shared with the American people."
And he intends to "haul people before the Congress" to get answers.
Schiff, a leading congressional critic of President Trump, told ABC's "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos that "there's a difference between compelling evidence of collusion and whether the special counsel concludes that he can prove beyond a reasonable doubt the criminal charge of conspiracy.
Source URL: https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/schiff-will-haul-people-congress-if-necessary-wont-rule-out-impeachment (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/schiff-will-haul-people-congress-if-necessary-wont-rule-out-impeachment)
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Lol, you got me... all bun and no meat... like an 80s Wendy's commercial.
And for this monumental waste of time and money, none of us should sleep until we see some dimocrats serving time.
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Chuck Todd Tries to Save Collusion Narrative, Wonders What Founders Would Think
By Curtis Houck | March 24, 2019 5:18 PM EDT
During the Sunday afternoon NBC News Special Report on AG Bill Barr’s letter to Congress about the Mueller Report, Meet the Press moderator Chuck Todd tried to save the now-deceased chances of Trump-Russia collusion, claiming that “Democrats very fairly will†wonder “if this doesn't exonerate him on the obstruction question, that if you not resolved obstruction, how do you resolve collusion?â€
Speaking to Sunday NBC Nightly News anchor Kate Snow, Todd told her it’s not that the President has been vindicated of collusion, but that he will “feel quite vindicated in this because what is under dispute is how he has conducted himself, what is not going to be in dispute is...that Bob Mueller did not find any — anything about coordination with the Trump officials, and that will be Bob Mueller's word, and they will take it as the full exoneration.â€
Todd continued:
Source URL: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2019/03/24/chuck-todd-tries-save-collusion-narrative-wonders-what-founders (https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2019/03/24/chuck-todd-tries-save-collusion-narrative-wonders-what-founders)
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Scarborough on Mueller Exoneration: Trump Still Just a 'Lying' ‘Mr. Magoo'
By Scott Whitlock | March 24, 2019 7:40 PM EDT
MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, who provided cushy, supportive coverage of Donald Trump during the 2016 primaries before flip flopping, on Sunday reacted to the lack of collusion and obstruction in the Mueller Report by comparing the President to the ‘stumbling,†lying†“Mr. Magoo†cartoon character.
Scarborough at first conceded that Trump not colluding with the Russians is “good news for Americans.†But then he shifted into grumble mode, insisting, “Donald Trump may just be a political version of Mr. Magoo.†The Morning Joe host fumed, “He may be a guy who just stumbles and bumbles around from one lie to — from one thing to another and in this case, as it pertained to Russia, there were — there were several lies that, again, probably centered more around Donald Trump's business dealings.â€
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2019/03/24/scarborough-mueller-exoneration-trump-still-just-lying-mr-magoo (https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2019/03/24/scarborough-mueller-exoneration-trump-still-just-lying-mr-magoo)
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Doctors stapled this jackass's stomach. I wish they had stapled his mouth.
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Who watches this jackass?
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Who watches this jackass?
That's the whole point. The only people watching that crap-fest are already hardcore committed Leftists. He is preaching to an empty Church. That is why he and his girlfriend...wife? or concubine? or whatever she is, have to say the wildest things imaginable. It is the only way he can reach a wider audience. And to remind people that his show is still actually on the air. The crazier the remark, the more press it gets.
While the bulk of his show exists in a bubble with a few viewers, when he and his girlfriend say things like, "Trump is a banana eating monkey with a small dick who throws his own feces!" they are able to escape their little bubble-world and to be heard in the general population, which they are desperate to achieve.
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Doctors stapled this jackass's stomach. I wish they had stapled his mouth.
Personally I think they stapled the wrong sphincter.
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Bill Mitchell
Verified account @mitchellvii
Up until now Trump has been a tiger in a cage. Barr just left the cage door open. Democrats better leave the zoo before they end up being dinner.
6:00 AM - 25 Mar 2019 from Concord, NC
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1110164563448745984?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Schiff Will ‘Haul People Before Congress’ If Necessary
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Today, I heard Trump say twice: “Hopefully someone will look at the other side.†Trump will start an investigation of everyone who worked on this case in the Justice Department. Going after the “Deep State†- who is everyone who did not support Trump. This is not over and won’t be until Trump is no longer in office and he won’t stop even then.
A full investigation and declassification of FISA is highly unlikely. It’s more advantageous for the questions to remain and have people like Comey, Lynch, Obama, Clinton, McCabe, and others as villains for the 2020 campaign. Before the report was released, people like Dershowitz were saying it would not reveal criminal wrongdoing, but be politically damaging.
Fully releasing the report and the underlying investigation will cause some uncomfortable content to be revealed. The report said there was no evidence the campaign directly conspired, but it did mention multiple instances of outreach. There would have to be explanations as to why they weren’t reported at the time. There would necessarily be a re-opening of discussions about Trump Tower, campaign polling data transfers, and the meeting between Gates, Manafort, and Kilimnik in Kushner’s building.
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A full investigation and declassification of FISA is highly unlikely. It’s more advantageous for the questions to remain and have people like Comey, Lynch, Obama, Clinton, McCabe, and others as villains for the 2020 campaign. Before the report was released, people like Dershowitz were saying it would not reveal criminal wrongdoing, but be politically damaging.
Fully releasing the report and the underlying investigation will cause some uncomfortable content to be revealed. The report said there was no evidence the campaign directly conspired, but it did mention multiple instances of outreach. There would have to be explanations as to why they weren’t reported at the time. There would necessarily be a re-opening of discussions about Trump Tower, campaign polling data transfers, and the meeting between Gates, Manafort, and Kilimnik in Kushner’s building.
So you say! I disagree! X gets the square!
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A full investigation and declassification of FISA is highly unlikely. It’s more advantageous for the questions to remain and have people like Comey, Lynch, Obama, Clinton, McCabe, and others as villains for the 2020 campaign. Before the report was released, people like Dershowitz were saying it would not reveal criminal wrongdoing, but be politically damaging.
Fully releasing the report and the underlying investigation will cause some uncomfortable content to be revealed. The report said there was no evidence the campaign directly conspired, but it did mention multiple instances of outreach. There would have to be explanations as to why they weren’t reported at the time. There would necessarily be a re-opening of discussions about Trump Tower, campaign polling data transfers, and the meeting between Gates, Manafort, and Kilimnik in Kushner’s building.
I sincerely hope the administration takes its chances and pursues the whole truth here.
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I sincerely hope the administration takes its chances and pursues the whole truth here.
The next phase starts with the IG's report. My prediction: First indictment has McCabe's name on it.
Then let the plea bargaining begin. :smokin:
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If you want obstruction of justice, I suggest you look at she who used Bleachbit.
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So you say! I disagree! X gets the square!
Yep. And as for potential FISA abuse – the 800 lb gorilla in the room – I suspect Roberts, as head of the judiciary branch, will be compelled to investigate the principals involved. And remember, we’re still waiting on the inspector general’s report regarding FISA. The inspector general did a good job in uncovering the text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page that shifted our understanding of just what really happened to Donald Trump. He was targeted by Obama’s DOJ.
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Yep. And as for potential FISA abuse – the 800 lb gorilla in the room – I suspect Roberts, as head of the judiciary branch, will be compelled to investigate the principals involved. And remember, we’re still waiting on the inspector general’s report regarding FISA. The inspector general did a good job in uncovering the text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page that shifted our understanding of just what really happened to Donald Trump. He was targeted by Obama’s DOJ.
Which would be perfectly in conformity with the Obama Administration's use of other Federal Agencies to target anyone to the right of Karl Marx. Ask Lois Lerner about that, too.
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Merging several Mueller report threads into this one. Remember, this is the central repository for all things Mueller report-related.
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Yep. And as for potential FISA abuse – the 800 lb gorilla in the room – I suspect Roberts, as head of the judiciary branch, will be compelled to investigate the principals involved.
May thought of that possibility result in the ex president's amber stain of song and verse.
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Paul Krugman and Adam Schiff both said they had incontrovertible evidence that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians, that it was a slam dunk.
Okay. So, will anyone from CNN or MSNBC have either of the two on and ask them to produce that incontrovertible evidence?
Facts? They don’t need no stinking facts.
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So you say! I disagree! X gets the square!
You believe whatever you want. The fact of the matter is, if this investigation was ‘illegal,’ then the president had the ability to stop it, for over one year. However, he did not and let ‘terrible things’ happen to people caught up in it, when there was supposedly no cause for it. This would include himself, since separate investigations under various federal jurisdictions have been opened, due to evidence gathered in the process.
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What got me was that though they didn't find any "actionable" evidence (IOW, nothing that would withstand a middlin' cross examination) they said that didn't mean it didn't happen.
(Maybe they've been around the Janet Reno school of defense too long).
But they and the Media are completely blowing past a basic principle (yeah, there's that word again) of American jurisprudence, that all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Catch some illegal alien shooting someone in the head, and the media refer to the alleged perpetrator allegedly involved in the alleged incident involving the alleged death of the alleged victim, allegedly....
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What got me was that though they didn't find any "actionable" evidence (IOW, nothing that would withstand a middlin' cross examination) they said that didn't mean it didn't happen.
(Maybe they've been around the Janet Reno school of defense too long).
But they and the Media are completely blowing past a basic principle (yeah, there's that word again) of American jurisprudence, that all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Catch some illegal alien shooting someone in the head, and the media refer to the alleged perpetrator allegedly involved in the alleged incident involving the alleged death of the alleged victim, allegedly....
I watched Rats on TeeVee yesterday declaring the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard is a bar too high, and a "preponderance of evidence" standard should be applied to the President. IOW, Donald Trump is beneath the law.
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You know, it was almost worth the $35 million investigation just to see Rachel Maddow’s face Friday night.
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I watched Rats on TeeVee yesterday declaring the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard is a bar too high, and a "preponderance of evidence" standard should be applied to the President. IOW, Donald Trump is beneath the law.
When this doesn't work they'll go straight to the 'heal the nation' mode as it looks like their own nuts might end up in the wringer.
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I watched Rats on TeeVee yesterday declaring the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard is a bar too high, and a "preponderance of evidence" standard should be applied to the President. IOW, Donald Trump is beneath the law.
It's a sad day in America where all are supposed to have equal Rights when the press, the Leftists, and the liberals who hoot the loudest for "equality" will not even acknowledge that the POTUS has the same basic Constitutional Rights (Civil Rights) as the rest of us.
So much for all their egalitarian socialist bullsh*t. That facade is down.
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Stupid should hurt.
Dem lawmaker says party has evidence Mueller wasn't covering
The Hill, Mar 25, 2019
A freshman Democrat in the House on Monday insisted that there is "suspicious" evidence that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation "was not covering" related to President Trump's administration that could come back to haunt him.
“We have the evidence over the last two years that the Mueller investigation was not covering that is highly, highly suspicious,†Rep. Katie Hill (D-Calif.), a member of the House Oversight Committee, told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota on "New Day."
Hill cited ongoing controversies and questions relating to White House officials’ security clearances, the possible sale of nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia and separation of migrant children and their parents at the U.S./Mexico border.
More: https://thehill.com/homenews/news/435585-dem-rep-we-have-evidence-mueller-investigation-wasnt-covering-that-is-highly
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Stupid should hurt.
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Here's the twitter snapshot (suitable for framing) :laugh: @Bigun
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I just saw this today.
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Think of the various usual suspects (including some here); #nevertrumpers of all stripes, spewing the democrat talking points 24/7.
They lack self-awareness to even be embarrased at how wrong they have been.
So I fully expect them to be out here, at CNN, at MSNBC, at starting as if nothing happened.
Whatabout-this-ism, what-about-thatism, ad infinitum, until ad nausium sets in.
I get much better analysis from democrats on LA AM radio.
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What got me was that though they didn't find any "actionable" evidence (IOW, nothing that would withstand a middlin' cross examination) they said that didn't mean it didn't happen.
But they and the Media are completely blowing past a basic principle (yeah, there's that word again) of American jurisprudence, that all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
@Smokin Joe
@QueenCatofAragon
@edpc
"...all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
That statement has gone by the wayside - say that, "innocent until proven guilty" to a real "Q" person or on the net to one of them you can't identify, and I have done it both ways, and you get clobbered because these so-called conservatives want thousands dead right now. This mind-set is new, beginning two years ago and brings out the worst in people.
John Kasich is on TV right now and just said, "Love your neighbor as yourself" and these divisions would go away. Kasich is a Christian and that guides his life. He is no longer acceptable to "conservatives" because he wants peace instead of war among citizens and believes one is innocent until proven guilty.
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@Smokin Joe
@QueenCatofAragon
@edpc
"...all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
That statement has gone by the wayside - say that, "innocent until proven guilty" to a real "Q" person or on the net to one of them you can't identify, and I have done it both ways, and you get clobbered because these so-called conservatives want thousands dead right now. This mind-set is new, beginning two years ago and brings out the worst in people.
John Kasich is on TV right now and just said, "Love your neighbor as yourself" and these divisions would go away. Kasich is a Christian and that guides his life. He is no longer acceptable to "conservatives" because he wants peace instead of war among citizens and believes one is innocent until proven guilty.
Jurisprudence is a process.
We have outlined that process, the determination of whether a crime has been committed (we have rules for that), gathering of evidence, (and have rules for that), obtaining warrants (and have rules for that), arrest, trial, evidence and testimony presented by both sides (and we have rules for all of that), conviction, or the default finding of innocent in the event that guilt is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt (yep, rules for that, too), and sentencing (uh-huh, still more rules), if appropriate.
Then there is the process of appeal (with still even more rules for that). I can understand the enthusiasm many here have for expediting the process, but that breaks its own rules, takes on the character of a lynch mob, and loses any legitimacy within our system of jurisprudence.
That noted, the march to the gallows begins with the first step. Patience is a virtue.
All will come before one final Judge, sooner or later.
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Think of the various usual suspects (including some here); #nevertrumpers of all stripes, spewing the democrat talking points 24/7.
They lack self-awareness to even be embarrased at how wrong they have been.
So I fully expect them to be out here, at CNN, at MSNBC, at starting as if nothing happened.
Whatabout-this-ism, what-about-thatism, ad infinitum, until ad nausium sets in.
I get much better analysis from democrats on LA AM radio.
@truth_seeker, I'm positive no response from you will be forthcoming, but just once I’d love to see you back your garbage up with actual facts, instead of just doing baseless drive-bys and then running away. Because you know damn well there have been zero “Dem talking points†on here.
You’re stuck in a groove, dude, and you really need to give that needle a shove.
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Trump: Mueller acted honorably
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435629-trump-mueller-acted-honorably
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Trump: Mueller acted honorably
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435629-trump-mueller-acted-honorably
If the investigation is to be turned around to investigate the possibly very real criminal types and acts of the 2016 election, he MUST say this, or the first line of defense for the Dems will be that any investigation is merely a reprisal and a waste of time.
This must have the look of legitimacy, otherwise any further attempts to ferret out the Criminal acts of the Obama DOJ and Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, and other egregious violations (including e-mail servers) will be broad brushed as a fishing expedition by the almost completely Left dominated mainstream press.
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Before we jump in with both feet and join the Dems chant of "release the report"...lets remember that there are people's testimony given in a secret grand jury who went there with the promise (by law) that what they said under oath wouldn't stay secret.
To release the full report would be in violation of the law. There were people hauled before that grand jusry with no lawyer...no way to rebut anything said to them or have legal representation provided to them while they were questioned.
If what they said is just tossed out on the street you'll never have anyone come forward in any kind of grand jury again out of fear of being "outed" by a pitchfork and torches crowd of the kind we're seeing now where the Mueller Report is concerned.
Before you continue with the "release the report"...I suggest you read this:
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure › TITLE III. THE GRAND JURY, THE INDICTMENT, AND THE INFORMATION › Rule 6. The Grand Jury
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6)
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In a month or so, after the portions of the report that can be made public have been published I really want Trump to start pardoning all the people that got caught up in this hoax.
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In a month or so, after the portions of the report that can be made public have been published I really want Trump to start pardoning all the people that got caught up in this hoax.
Same here!
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Before we jump in with both feet and join the Dems chant of "release the report"...lets remember that there are people's testimony given in a secret grand jury who went there with the promise (by law) that what they said under oath wouldn't stay secret.
To release the full report would be in violation of the law. There were people hauled before that grand jusry with no lawyer...no way to rebut anything said to them or have legal representation provided to them while they were questioned.
If what they said is just tossed out on the street you'll never have anyone come forward in any kind of grand jury again out of fear of being "outed" by a pitchfork and torches crowd of the kind we're seeing now where the Mueller Report is concerned.
Before you continue with the "release the report"...I suggest you read this:
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure › TITLE III. THE GRAND JURY, THE INDICTMENT, AND THE INFORMATION › Rule 6. The Grand Jury
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6)
Thanks for some clear headed thought on this topic. It's refreshing!
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Thanks for some clear headed thought on this topic. It's refreshing!
It's too easy to mindlessly spout "release the report" over and over...it's a real knee jerk response given by people who don't realize the consequences involved for people who appeared before that grand jury the last couple years.
I can only hope the President's legal counsel advises him of the same issues as well and Trump turns down the volume on his being ok with releasing the full report.
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It's too easy to mindlessly spout "release the report" over and over...it's a real knee jerk response given by people who don't realize the consequences involved for people who appeared before that grand jury the last couple years.
I can only hope the President's legal counsel advises him of the same issues as well and Trump turns down the volume on his being ok with releasing the full report.
"Release the report" is one of those things that sound good on paper, but....
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If the investigation is to be turned around to investigate the possibly very real criminal types and acts of the 2016 election, he MUST say this, or the first line of defense for the Dems will be that any investigation is merely a reprisal and a waste of time.
This must have the look of legitimacy, otherwise any further attempts to ferret out the Criminal acts of the Obama DOJ and Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, and other egregious violations (including e-mail servers) will be broad brushed as a fishing expedition by the almost completely Left dominated mainstream press.
Excellent reminder.
It’s also reminds me that Trump was the one man who knew the truth about collusion, and he stood his ground against the relentless, incoming lies and slander about himself, his family, friends and associates; the most intense mainstream media scrutiny and hostility towards a sitting president and his administration in modern times – and he didn’t blink.
That’s been his entire presidency. He wouldn’t be pushed into overstepping his presidential authority even by an investigation he knew was baseless. Indeed, he had some measured, even gracious comments to make about democratic leadership, the DOJ and even Mueller at times.
He never once blinked though he knew it was a witch hunt. Anyone think Romney, or Jeb!, or Rubio could of stood up to the same press attacks?
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Anyone think Romney, or Jeb!, or Rubio could of stood up to the same press attacks?
Only one other person could have...but that's because he was on the receiving end of the same kind of attacks and smears and never blinked back in 2016.
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Excellent reminder.
It’s also reminds me that Trump was the one man who knew the truth about collusion, and he stood his ground against the relentless, incoming lies and slander about himself, his family, friends and associates; the most intense mainstream media scrutiny and hostility towards a sitting president and his administration in modern times – and he didn’t blink.
That’s been his entire presidency. He wouldn’t be pushed into overstepping his presidential authority even by an investigation he knew was baseless. Indeed, he had some measured, even gracious comments to make about democratic leadership, the DOJ and even Mueller at times.
He never once blinked though he knew it was a witch hunt. Anyone think Romney, or Jeb!, or Rubio could of stood up to the same press attacks?
I don't know what Romney, Jeb, or Rubio have been up to, (as in there might have been a 'there' there), but I'm not really a fan of any of them.
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Anybody supporting him, was likely to be called names, called racist, called Nazi, called bootlicker, called goosestepper, etc.
Weren't they?
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It's too easy to mindlessly spout "release the report" over and over...it's a real knee jerk response given by people who don't realize the consequences involved for people who appeared before that grand jury the last couple years.
I can only hope the President's legal counsel advises him of the same issues as well and Trump turns down the volume on his being ok with releasing the full report.
Too late.
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"Release the Report" is merly to get ammunition for"Flak."
During WWII bombers would encouter "flak" in order to disable their instruments, to navigate, etc.
The dems next move is to put up a disabling amount of flak.
Just like they sought to bring down, Trump or disable him, they now move on to Plan B, more bullshiite adinfinitum.
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March 25, 2019:
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: It lasted a long time. We're glad it's over. It's 100% the way it should have been. I wish it could have gone a lot sooner, a lot quicker. There are a lot of people out there that have done some very, very evil things, very bad things. I would say treasonous things against our country and hopefully that people that have done such harm to our country, speaking to Netanyahu: we've gone through a period of really bad things happening.
Those people will certainly be looked at. I've been looking at them for a long time and I'm saying why haven't they been looked at? They lied to Congress. Many of them, you know who they are, they've done so many evil things.
I will tell you, I love this country. I love this country as much as I can love anything. My family, my country, my God, but what they did, it was a false narrative. It was a terrible thing. We can never let this happen to another president again. I can tell you that. I say it very strongly. Very few people I know could have handled it. We can never, ever let this happen to another president again. Thank you all very much.
Video: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/03/25/trump_on_mueller_decision_people_have_done_evil_treasonous_things.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/03/25/trump_on_mueller_decision_people_have_done_evil_treasonous_things.html)
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In a month or so, after the portions of the report that can be made public have been published I really want Trump to start pardoning all the people that got caught up in this hoax.
He would be better off granting clemency than issuing pardons. Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. Also, you are still able to be subpoenaed, for other investigations. Once a person has accepted a pardon, they cannot plead the 5th on issues related to any testimony that is relevant. There are still open investigations in which people like Manafort are implicated.
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Before we jump in with both feet and join the Dems chant of "release the report"...lets remember that there are people's testimony given in a secret grand jury who went there with the promise (by law) that what they said under oath wouldn't stay secret.
To release the full report would be in violation of the law. There were people hauled before that grand jusry with no lawyer...no way to rebut anything said to them or have legal representation provided to them while they were questioned.
If what they said is just tossed out on the street you'll never have anyone come forward in any kind of grand jury again out of fear of being "outed" by a pitchfork and torches crowd of the kind we're seeing now where the Mueller Report is concerned.
Before you continue with the "release the report"...I suggest you read this:
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure › TITLE III. THE GRAND JURY, THE INDICTMENT, AND THE INFORMATION › Rule 6. The Grand Jury
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6)
Can't be said often enough :thumbsup:
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He never once blinked though he knew it was a witch hunt. Anyone think Romney, or Jeb!, or Rubio could of stood up to the same press attacks?
Sure Rubio could have, Marco respects the Bible, doesn't mock it, Rubio had his grassroots supporters, doesn't claim some Governor of Ohio is being funded by Soros. When you do no wrong, what does one have to worry about?
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Only one other person could have...but that's because he was on the receiving end of the same kind of attacks and smears and never blinked back in 2016.
:thumbsup:
Even though, it hurt to see the Bible mocked, Rubio braved the whole scenario. Totally agree.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo3qKI1fQGE#)
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Before we jump in with both feet and join the Dems chant of "release the report"...lets remember that there are people's testimony given in a secret grand jury who went there with the promise (by law) that what they said under oath wouldn't stay secret.
To release the full report would be in violation of the law. There were people hauled before that grand jusry with no lawyer...no way to rebut anything said to them or have legal representation provided to them while they were questioned.
If what they said is just tossed out on the street you'll never have anyone come forward in any kind of grand jury again out of fear of being "outed" by a pitchfork and torches crowd of the kind we're seeing now where the Mueller Report is concerned.
Before you continue with the "release the report"...I suggest you read this:
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure › TITLE III. THE GRAND JURY, THE INDICTMENT, AND THE INFORMATION › Rule 6. The Grand Jury
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6)
I'm pretty sure I just heard (on Rush show) Trump say he had no problem with the public release of the Mueller report. Also...
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435566-sarah-sanders-trump-doesnt-have-any-problem-with-release-of-mueller (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435566-sarah-sanders-trump-doesnt-have-any-problem-with-release-of-mueller)
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:thumbsup:
Even though, it hurt to see the Bible mocked, Rubio braved the whole scenario. Totally agree.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo3qKI1fQGE#)
Why are you such a bald faced effing liar? How many times are you going to repeat this debunked bullsh*t?
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"Release the Report" is merly to get ammunition for"Flak."
During WWII bombers would encouter "flak" in order to disable their instruments, to navigate, etc.
The dems next move is to put up a disabling amount of flak.
Just like they sought to bring down, Trump or disable him, they now move on to Plan B, more bullshiite adinfinitum.
During WWII "flak" was the exploding shells from antiaircraft batteries trying to shoot the planes down. Messing with the instruments (aside from destruction by shrapnel) wasn't part of the picture. The flak (antiaircraft fire) was always most intense on the vicinity of whatever was being defended, to try to stop the attack by destroying the planes.
A couple of survivors...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/b6/34/8fb6344df2fef804fd06285b74d334ce.jpg)
(https://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/photos/nose/nose5.gif)
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I'm pretty sure I just heard (on Rush show) Trump say he had no problem with the public release of the Mueller report. Also...
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435566-sarah-sanders-trump-doesnt-have-any-problem-with-release-of-mueller (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435566-sarah-sanders-trump-doesnt-have-any-problem-with-release-of-mueller)
Well he’s wrong. And he’s wrong for the reasons I stated above. He’d be violating the law in releasing the full report. And knowing the Dems...despite their calls to do the same...they’d turn and use the released report and the law it violates against him as a “gotchaâ€.
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Well he’s wrong. And he’s wrong for the reasons I stated above. He’d be violating the law in releasing the full report. And knowing the Dems...despite their calls to do the same...they’d turn and use the released report and the law it violates against him as a “gotchaâ€.
Oh, I totally agree. Somebody should probably clue in/tell Donald that he's wrong. :shrug:
And let's face it... nothing short of the entire report release (no heavily redacted stuff) would suffice with the idiot left.
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Trump wrong about something????
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I'm pretty sure I just heard (on Rush show) Trump say he had no problem with the public release of the Mueller report.
I heard the President live and he added: It's up to the Department of Justice @XenaLee
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Before we jump in with both feet and join the Dems chant of "release the report"...lets remember that there are people's testimony given in a secret grand jury who went there with the promise (by law) that what they said under oath wouldn't stay secret.
To release the full report would be in violation of the law. There were people hauled before that grand jusry with no lawyer...no way to rebut anything said to them or have legal representation provided to them while they were questioned.
If what they said is just tossed out on the street you'll never have anyone come forward in any kind of grand jury again out of fear of being "outed" by a pitchfork and torches crowd of the kind we're seeing now where the Mueller Report is concerned.
Before you continue with the "release the report"...I suggest you read this:
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure › TITLE III. THE GRAND JURY, THE INDICTMENT, AND THE INFORMATION › Rule 6. The Grand Jury
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6)
Except whether judges can release grand jury testimony is something that is currently making its way through the judicial system.
Appeals court affirms judges can release secret grand jury records
https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2019/02/11/appeals-court-release-secret-grand-jury-records-1164440 (https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2019/02/11/appeals-court-release-secret-grand-jury-records-1164440)
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Why are you such a bald faced effing liar? How many times are you going to repeat this debunked bullsh*t?
Apparently until we accept it as truth. Bizarre.
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He would be better off granting clemency than issuing pardons. Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. Also, you are still able to be subpoenaed, for other investigations. Once a person has accepted a pardon, they cannot plead the 5th on issues related to any testimony that is relevant. There are still open investigations in which people like Manafort are implicated.
Sounds even better than my thought.
I just want to see all these people who have suffered because of this hoax get some relief. They can never be made whole, but something is better than nothing.
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I heard the President live and he added: It's up to the Department of Justice @XenaLee
Oh, well good, then. I didn't hear that part. Thanks.
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Pretty definitive on the collusion aspects.
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President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Jay Sekulow is opposing a public release of his client’s written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller, calling them “confidential communications.â€
“As a lawyer, you don’t waive privileges and you don’t waive investigative detail absent either a court order or an agreement between the parties ― and you’d have to weigh a lot of factors there on how that affects other presidencies,†he said during a Monday appearance on CNN. “So I think that it’s not a simple just wave your hand and we release the document. I think that would be very inappropriate.â€
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-apos-lawyer-objects-public-182239490.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-apos-lawyer-objects-public-182239490.html)
The client waives privilege and he’s said he’s fine with the report being released. Besides, we heard the questions were ridiculous and easily answered, anyway.
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Trump's one major fault is not knowing how to shut up.
First rule when you lawyer up. Shut up. And you stay that way until your counsel tells you you can talk.