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Title: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2013, 02:29:18 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/13/Lindsey-Graham-calls-on-Paul-Ryan-to-team-with-Boehner-to-protect-Obamacare (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/13/Lindsey-Graham-calls-on-Paul-Ryan-to-team-with-Boehner-to-protect-Obamacare)

 by Matthew Boyle 13 Oct 2013   

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called on House Budget Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) to work with House Speaker John Boehner to pass a grand bargain deal that would end the government shutdown, raise the debt ceiling, and protect Obamacare by not delaying or defunding it.

On ABC News’ This Week, Graham said Ryan should team with Boehner to pass some kind of deal “that doesn’t delay or defund [Obamacare] but would be good government.”

“That’s the best thing for the Republican Party and for the country,” Graham said. “But as between House and Senate Republicans, the sooner this is over, the better for us, guys.”

Ryan took the lead in House negotiations and has offered a plan that would give President Barack Obama a clean debt ceiling increase while reopening the government in exchange for a repeal of the medical device sales tax in Obamacare and two changes to Obamacare that would, as some conservatives have said, ensure America has Obamacare “forever.”

Ryan fired shots at Senate Republicans.

“They’re trying to cut the House out, and trying to jam us with the Senate. We’re not going to roll over and take that,” Ryan said, according to the National Review.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: mountaineer on October 14, 2013, 03:51:42 pm
What a nitwit.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 14, 2013, 04:00:48 pm
There is a contingent here that seems to feel the same way.

I venture to guess that they won't be the ones actually HURT by it.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: Cincinnatus on October 14, 2013, 04:09:36 pm
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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called on House Budget Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) to work with House Speaker John Boehner to pass a grand bargain deal that would end the government shutdown, raise the debt ceiling, and protect Obamacare by not delaying or defunding it.

Wouldn't it have been simpler if he had just said give in to Obama on everything?

Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 14, 2013, 04:11:06 pm
I feel that if Obamacare is going to hurt the United States so much, the right should let him hang himself with it. If it's a complete flop and a total failure it can just be undone later, and it would make Obama and the left look very bad/ineffective.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: aligncare on October 14, 2013, 04:36:45 pm
Originally, I thought so, too. But, legislation is like cancer. Once you've got it it's tough to get rid of.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: mountaineer on October 14, 2013, 04:42:17 pm
I feel that if Obamacare is going to hurt the United States so much, the right should let him hang himself with it. If it's a complete flop and a total failure it can just be undone later, and it would make Obama and the left look very bad/ineffective.
A lot of people feel that way. The problem is that while we're waiting for it to be undone - and there's no guarantee it ever will be undone - a lot of people will suffer greatly, both medically and financially.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: aligncare on October 14, 2013, 04:45:23 pm
Yep, better to prevent it.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: Cincinnatus on October 14, 2013, 04:53:52 pm
The problem is that while we're waiting for it to be undone - and there's no guarantee it ever will be undone - a lot of people will suffer greatly, both medically and financially.

Exactly. It is to be opposed on principle.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: Rapunzel on October 14, 2013, 07:17:31 pm
I feel that if Obamacare is going to hurt the United States so much, the right should let him hang himself with it. If it's a complete flop and a total failure it can just be undone later, and it would make Obama and the left look very bad/ineffective.

You stop fighting it now only if you want a single payer - government run - system. I do not and frankly you should not, either, unless you are comfortable with Uncle Sam telling you everything you can and cannot do in your daily life - because if they control your healthcare they control you 100%.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: Relic on October 14, 2013, 07:21:59 pm
I feel that if Obamacare is going to hurt the United States so much, the right should let him hang himself with it. If it's a complete flop and a total failure it can just be undone later, and it would make Obama and the left look very bad/ineffective.

The American public is stupid, and easily led by the media. There will be token complaints in the media, but if allowed to press forward, Obamacare will be declared a success by the media. Any shortcomings will be explained as the best you can do with the current system, hence the need for a single payer system.

The only thing I can think of that Obama could do to draw the ire of his adoring sycophants in the media is switch parties to Republican.
Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: happyg on October 14, 2013, 08:21:12 pm
I wish Lindsey would just shut his flapper. If he was really for the people, he would follow true conservatives. Instead, he wants to be a leader who can't lead.

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Title: Re: Lindsey Graham: 'Best Thing for the Republican Party' to Let Obamacare Proceed
Post by: Rapunzel on October 14, 2013, 10:28:19 pm
He's part of the problem in DC - not the solution.