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Title: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 15, 2023, 08:31:59 pm
We fight not for glory, nor for riches, nor for honour, but only and alone for Freedom, which no good man lays down but with his life. --Declaration of Arbroath, Scotland, 1320
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: berdie on May 15, 2023, 08:50:40 pm
That's beautiful.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 19, 2023, 03:49:42 am
"If you were to take . . . all the authoritative articles ever written .. . on the subject of mental hygiene, if you were to combine them and refine them and cleve out the excess verbiage, if you were to take the whole of the meat and none of the parsley, and if you were to have these unadulterated bits of pure scientific knowledge concisely expressed by the most capable of living poets, you would have an awkward and incomplete summation of the Sermon on the Mount."-  The Case Book of a Psychiatrist, by James T Fisher
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 20, 2023, 11:06:50 pm
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 21, 2023, 03:26:51 pm
What the Democrats are doing is an abomination to the Constitution. – Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, who states he is a “liberal Democrat”, November 20, 2019 on live television news

"Light at the end of the tunnel? We don't even have a tunnel - we don't even know where the tunnel is." — Lyndon B. Johnson

The good news is that the federal government is not mismanaged, as I had expected it to be.  The bad news is that it's not managed at all.  -- Roger Johnson, Former Head of the General Services Administration, and Clinton Appointee

You know, the people believe we could screw up a one car parade - and they're probably right.  -  Bill Clinton to Roger Johnson in 1993

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 23, 2023, 03:03:21 am


Monday May 22


"If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true is really true, there would be little hope of advance." - Orville Wright
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 24, 2023, 01:19:54 am
May 23


Several quotes combine to accentuate a single thought.

"It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor." --George Washington


"Morality is the necessary spring of popular government.... Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without Christianity." - - George Washington

“It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!” - Patrick Henry

"No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation, state or national, because this is a religious people.... This is a Christian nation." --U.S. Supreme Court (1892)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 25, 2023, 07:48:11 pm
May 24
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 26, 2023, 01:26:26 pm
Friday, May 26
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on May 26, 2023, 01:42:20 pm
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Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on May 26, 2023, 01:43:04 pm
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Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 26, 2023, 02:57:03 pm
 :bkmk:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 27, 2023, 12:08:03 pm
“In 1950, we spent (in 1989 dollars) $1,333 per student. In 1989 we spent $4931. As John Silber, the President of Boston University, has written, ‘It is troubling that this nearly fourfold increase in real spending has brought no improvement. It is scandalous that it has not prevented substantial decline.’ ”  – William J. Bennett, former Secretary of Education, in The De-Valuing of America
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 28, 2023, 01:13:17 pm
“America is like a healthy body, and its resistance is threefold:  its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life.  If we can undermine these three areas,  America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 29, 2023, 01:41:25 pm

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it" - Max Planck (winner of the 1918 Nobel Prize in physics for quantum theory )


[Evolution, Climate Change Cult]
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 30, 2023, 01:00:57 pm
"The belief in a God All Powerful wise and good, is so essential to the moral order of the world and to the happiness of man, that arguments which enforce it cannot be drawn from too many sources nor adapted with too much solicitude to the different characters and capacities impressed with it." --James Madison
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 31, 2023, 01:25:53 pm
“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."  - George Orwell
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on May 31, 2023, 02:04:09 pm
“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."  - George Orwell

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 01, 2023, 01:24:41 pm
Let him who hath no sword sell his garment and buy one. - Jesus Christ
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 02, 2023, 01:41:27 pm
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin



Substitute "Democrats" for "masters."  Perfect today.  Perfect, as corruption and viciousness in the streets run rampant, thanks to Democrat "masters" such as Biden, Obama, Soros, Facebook, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, New York Times.........
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 03, 2023, 01:18:48 pm
The universe is not "pointless" (Steven Weinberg), Earth merely "a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark," (Carl Sagan) and human existence "just a more-or-less farcical outcome of a chain of accidents" (Steven Weinberg). On the contrary, the evidence we can uncover from our Earthly home points to a universe that is designed for life, and designed for discovery. – Synopsis of The Privileged Planet: How Our Place in the Cosmos is Designed for Discovery, by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 05, 2023, 03:28:20 pm
No matter how far you have gone on a wrong road, turn back. - Turkish Proverb

[Democrats never turn back.]
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 05, 2023, 04:27:24 pm
No matter how far you have gone on a wrong road, turn back. - Turkish Proverb

[Democrats never turn back.


 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 06, 2023, 01:38:16 pm

"There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular system, only a variety of wishful speculations." - James Shapiro, biochemist, University of Chicago

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 07, 2023, 01:11:39 pm
whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. -Philippians 4:8

This is the day the Lord hath made;  we will rejoice and be glad in it.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 08, 2023, 01:27:52 pm
You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks. - Winston Churchill

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: bigheadfred on June 08, 2023, 01:30:40 pm
You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks. - Winston Churchill



Do you get there any faster if you have to keep shaking them off your leg?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 10, 2023, 08:15:00 pm
We llive in a society where homosexuals lecture us on morals, transvestites lecture us on human biology, baby killers lecture us on human rights, and socialists lecture us on economics.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on June 10, 2023, 08:31:31 pm
whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. -Philippians 4:8

This is the day the Lord hath made;  we will rejoice and be glad in it.


Amen.  Thank you for that @ChemEngrMBA
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2023, 09:45:20 pm
Amen.  Thank you for that @ChemEngrMBA

I have come to regard this thread as one of my never-miss dailies.

Kudos, @ChemEngrMBA
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: DB on June 10, 2023, 09:48:30 pm
Yes, it is a good one.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: berdie on June 10, 2023, 11:55:35 pm
I have come to regard this thread as one of my never-miss dailies.

Kudos, @ChemEngrMBA


Absolutely!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 11, 2023, 08:15:16 pm
My Dear Friends, thank you for your kind words.
Beginning with college in 1968, I began collecting wisdom from those before me to help me learn.
I continue to come across wisdom from decades or centuries ago that I have never before heard.
Many of those have already been posted so that you can benefit as well.

It is the duty of each of us to do all the mitzvahs we can do daily.  A "mitzvah" is a good deed.  The Hebrew word means "commandment."  You are commanded to do good.  It's not hard.  It benefits you and everyone around you, as you will experience.
You get more creative and better with experience.

I put this on my shirt when I ran a 10K at my alma mater university:
  "SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH
             OR I'LL KILL YOU!"

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on June 11, 2023, 08:24:24 pm
My Dear Friends, thank you for your kind words.
Beginning with college in 1968, I began collecting wisdom from those before me to help me learn.
I continue to come across wisdom from decades or centuries ago that I have never before heard.
Many of those have already been posted so that you can benefit as well.

It is the duty of each of us to do all the mitzvahs we can do daily.  A "mitzvah" is a good deed.  The Hebrew word means "commandment."  You are commanded to do good. It's not hard.  It benefits you and everyone around you, as you will experience.
You get more creative and better with experience.

I put this on my shirt when I ran a 10K at my alma mater university:
  "SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH
             OR I'LL KILL YOU!"



 happy77
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 12, 2023, 01:11:21 pm
I ask not for a lighter load but for broader shoulders. - Jewish Proverb

If you like my Thought For The Day, you'll love my book.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 13, 2023, 01:20:28 pm
"Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia;" - -Excerpt from the Mayflower Compact (December 11, 1620)

If you enjoy my Thought For The Day, you will love my book, I promise.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 14, 2023, 01:05:11 pm
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

(Never more so in my lifetime than now.)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 15, 2023, 03:14:46 pm
"The NEA represents, and presumably reflects the mentality of, the people who are delivering -- inflicting? -- public education. That is as frightening, in its way, as any foreign threat." --George Will
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 15, 2023, 03:16:52 pm
"The NEA represents, and presumably reflects the mentality of, the people who are delivering -- inflicting? -- public education. That is as frightening, in its way, as any foreign threat." --George Will
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on June 15, 2023, 03:19:30 pm
"The NEA represents, and presumably reflects the mentality of, the people who are delivering -- inflicting? -- public education. That is as frightening, in its way, as any foreign threat." --George Will

 888high58888 Public education is, by far, the biggest racquet going in this country now.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 15, 2023, 09:23:23 pm
888high58888 Public education is, by far, the biggest racquet going in this country now.

My good Friend, if you have any additions to my website on that topic, please forward them to me.

http://Theeducationfraud.wordpress.com

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 16, 2023, 12:58:58 pm
“In 1950, we spent (in 1989 dollars) $1,333 per student. In 1989 we spent $4931. As John Silber, the President of Boston University, has written, ‘It is troubling that this nearly fourfold increase in real spending has brought no improvement. It is scandalous that it has not prevented substantial decline.’ ”  – William J. Bennett, former Secretary of Education, in The De-Valuing of America
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on June 16, 2023, 01:03:10 pm
My good Friend, if you have any additions to my website on that topic, please forward them to me.

http://Theeducationfraud.wordpress.com

Stand by @ChemEngrMBA before it's over you might regret that statement!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 16, 2023, 07:16:02 pm
Stand by @ChemEngrMBA before it's over you might regret that statement!

Homie don't think so.....
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 17, 2023, 01:25:58 pm
My daughter and her family live in Minnesota, "Land of 10,000 Lakes."
Knowing that Canada is so much larger and must have many more than 10,000 lakes, I looked it up.
You CANNOT IMAGINE the number.  It is more than all of the lakes in the rest of the world combined.
8,780,000!

Brain Candy


You just never know what you're going to find on this here thread, eh?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on June 17, 2023, 01:54:56 pm
888high58888 Public education is, by far, the biggest racquet going in this country now.

@Bigun

It's not education in elementary and high schools,it's brain washing/conditioning.

No need for it in college because the students are already conditioned,so it's just more of the same/reinforcement,not conditioning. The conditioning has already been done.

"We iz da wurld.......
 We iz da peep-pulls....."
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 18, 2023, 03:09:35 pm

"It is not the function of the government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error." --Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson (1892-1954)

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on June 18, 2023, 03:10:59 pm

"It is not the function of the government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error." --Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson (1892-1954)


 :yowsa:  :amen:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 18, 2023, 09:07:07 pm
Amen.  Thank you for that @ChemEngrMBA

Lord God, Jesus Christ, please stop the evil that keeps prevailing on this country.

Bele, these are the last times prophesied in the Holy Bible.  Evil increases every year worldwide.
The enemy to the "uttermost north" wages war on his neighbor with evil malice.
Our resources will run out around 2040 according to a scholarly study by MIT. 
Nature's God gave us just enough to last to the end times.   We lived in the best of them, but those good times are clearly over.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 19, 2023, 01:43:00 pm
"The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who
are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ---Samuel Adams

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 19, 2023, 02:20:02 pm
"The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who
are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ---Samuel Adams


And then God created a Democrat.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 19, 2023, 08:14:40 pm
And then God created a Democrat.

I think you left an "N" out of Democrat.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 20, 2023, 01:31:14 pm

"Remember, happiness doesn't depend upon who you are or what you have,
 it depends solely upon what you think." - Dale Carnegie


"The greatest discovery of any generation is that human beings can alter their lives
by altering the attitudes of their minds." - Albert Schweitzer

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Polly Ticks on June 20, 2023, 01:57:57 pm
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Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 21, 2023, 01:15:24 pm
"Sin has many tools, but a lie is the handle which fits them all." – Oliver Wendell Holmes
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 22, 2023, 01:18:21 pm
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" - Mark 8:36


Bernie Madoff
Jeffrey Epstein
Phil Spector

Adolf Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Chairman Mao
Vladimir Putin
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: bigheadfred on June 22, 2023, 01:26:42 pm
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" - Mark 8:36


Bernie Madoff
Jeffrey Epstein
Phil Spector

Adolf Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Chairman Mao
Vladimir Putin
Democrats

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 23, 2023, 01:16:25 pm
Gentlemen, court your wife every single day.  Romance her publicly and privately, for a happy marriage and a happy life.
If this seems strange to you, start practicing every day. Practice makes perfect.

Ladies, I heard this on a radio talk show:  "I'm a feminist.  I've learned that if you treat your husband like a king, he will treat you like a queen."
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 23, 2023, 03:15:55 pm
 :thumbsup:

Its true....you can ask my wife!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Polly Ticks on June 23, 2023, 03:28:38 pm
Mostly true, unless you are married to an addict. In that case, it's just enabling. 
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 24, 2023, 05:27:25 pm
"Out of  the very stones [Arabs] will fabricate such a tower of falsehoods that you can only stand and gape in wonder and admiration at their fruitful invention." --Isabel Burton
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 25, 2023, 01:09:53 pm
those nations with the highest levels  of depression and suicide over the last 50 years  also happen to have been the most irreligious.  (Soviet bloc, China, Japan, Scandanavia, UK, France, among others)  Abortion rates, separation and family discord are all far more prominent in the irreligious west than anywhere else in the world.- 1627

The evidence suggest that atheism is thus:
A belief held for psychological reasons leading to an increased probability of psychosis, abusive behavior, depression and suicidal inclination.
If those are not the hallmarks of a delusion, I don’t know what is. – 1641  (Illogical Atheism, by Bo Jinn, former atheist)

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on June 25, 2023, 01:41:13 pm
If those are not the hallmarks of a delusion, I don’t know what is. –Illogical Atheism, by Bo Jinn, former atheist

Believing in a magical fairy that lives in the sky and loves you so much he inflicts terrible pain and suffering on most of you  to prove he loves you?

Organized religion is about controlling the masses with fear in order to keep them in line.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 25, 2023, 07:54:47 pm
If those are not the hallmarks of a delusion, I don’t know what is. –Illogical Atheism, by Bo Jinn, former atheist

Believing in a magical fairy that lives in the sky and loves you so much he inflicts terrible pain and suffering on most of you  to prove he loves you?

Organized religion is about controlling the masses with fear in order to keep them in line.

Organized atheism has a lot to answer for, from Lenin to Stalin to Hitler to Chairman Mao to the fatuous pretense that everything made itself from nothing, to the fact that of all religions, atheism has the lowest retention rate and the fewest number of Nobel Laureates in science.  The Unabomber was a genius who murdered people he hated with package bombs.  He had a well-worn copy of atheist Isaac Asimov's Two Volume Guide to the Bible in his rathole cabin, along with Al Gore's Earth in the Balance.

I refer you to http://Proof-There-Is-No-God.blogspot.com

and http://Irrational-Atheism.blogspot.com

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on June 25, 2023, 08:14:38 pm
Organized atheism has a lot to answer for, from Lenin to Stalin to Hitler to Chairman Mao to the fatuous pretense that everything made itself from nothing, to the fact that of all religions, atheism has the lowest retention rate and the fewest number of Nobel Laureates in science.  The Unabomber was a genius who murdered people he hated with package bombs.  He had a well-worn copy of atheist Isaac Asimov's Two Volume Guide to the Bible in his rathole cabin, along with Al Gore's Earth in the Balance.

I refer you to http://Proof-There-Is-No-God.blogspot.com

and http://Irrational-Atheism.blogspot.com

@ChemEngrMBA

Now list all the religious wars created by the True Believers to kill non-believers.

I understand this may take weeks,so no hurry with your answser.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2023, 09:05:07 pm
@ChemEngrMBA


Lets just enjoy this thread of quotes.  Not the place for Christian vs Atheist arguments....
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on June 25, 2023, 09:07:41 pm
Organized atheism has a lot to answer for, from Lenin to Stalin to Hitler to Chairman Mao to the fatuous pretense that everything made itself from nothing, to the fact that of all religions, atheism has the lowest retention rate and the fewest number of Nobel Laureates in science.  The Unabomber was a genius who murdered people he hated with package bombs.  He had a well-worn copy of atheist Isaac Asimov's Two Volume Guide to the Bible in his rathole cabin, along with Al Gore's Earth in the Balance.

I refer you to http://Proof-There-Is-No-God.blogspot.com

and http://Irrational-Atheism.blogspot.com

Trying to change some people's minds about anything is very much akin to teaching pigs to sing.

It wastes your time and annoys the pigs. @ChemEngrMBA
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on June 25, 2023, 09:50:42 pm
Lets just enjoy this thread of quotes.  Not the place for Christian vs Atheist arguments....

@Cyber Liberty

It's a "fight" nobody ever wins,anyway.

I personally  don't give a squat who worships who or what,as long as they don't insist that I worship it with them.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: MOD3 on June 25, 2023, 10:20:02 pm
Lets just enjoy this thread of quotes.  Not the place for Christian vs Atheist arguments....
What CL said. Change topics.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 25, 2023, 11:03:27 pm
Lets just enjoy this thread of quotes.  Not the place for Christian vs Atheist arguments....

I quoted the Holy Bible many times, without the slightest objection. Implicitly, any quote from the Bible contradicts atheism.
Every Bible quote is implicitly Christian vs Atheist. What would have been appropriate was for @sneakypete to take his snark elsewhere, and create a new thread.  I did just that, guaranteeing his failure to rise to my complex challenge of *science* without intervention.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: bigheadfred on June 25, 2023, 11:32:28 pm
 “Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes.”
—Jack Handey
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 26, 2023, 01:40:07 pm
".... no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end." - Ecclesiastes 3:11

"There is an infinite amount of research to do." - Scientists, eager for an infinite amount of government grants, confirming Ecclesiastes 3:11
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on June 26, 2023, 06:53:11 pm
@Cyber Liberty

It's a "fight" nobody ever wins,anyway.

I personally  don't give a squat who worships who or what,as long as they don't insist that I worship it with them.

@sneakypete you have right to your beliefs and I absolutely agree; no one should insist that you worship with them.  However, I do pray for others.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on June 26, 2023, 06:53:44 pm
“Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes.”
—Jack Handey

 888high58888
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 28, 2023, 11:23:34 am
"One hundred years from my day there will not be a bible in the earth except one that is looked upon by an antiquarian curiosity seeker." - Voltaire, 1694 - 1778

The Holy Bible is the best-selling book in the world two hundred fifty years later.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 29, 2023, 07:49:04 pm
There is overwhelming evidence that the higher the level of self-esteem, the more likely one will be to treat others with respect, kindness, and generosity.— Nathaniel Branden, Canadian Psychotherapist
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 29, 2023, 08:31:42 pm
There is overwhelming evidence that the higher the level of self-esteem, the more likely one will be to treat others with respect, kindness, and generosity.— Nathaniel Branden, Canadian Psychotherapist

LOL!  Leftists have an extremely high level of self esteem, yet they are the worst people on the planet.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 29, 2023, 10:44:43 pm
LOL!  Leftists have an extremely high level of self esteem, yet they are the worst people on the planet.

Analyze that point carefully.  Is it perhaps that Leftists CLAIM intellect, rationality and morality, but deep down inside,
they know that they are really low-lifes and so their self-esteem is seriously compromised?  They're bitter, petulant,
dishonest and very unhappy overall.  These are not characteristics of people with true high-level self-esteem, as you
and I have.   Conservatives are consistently happier people.  The most mentally unstable are Leftist women, according
to studies.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 29, 2023, 11:51:12 pm
Analyze that point carefully.  Is it perhaps that Leftists CLAIM intellect, rationality and morality, but deep down inside,
they know that they are really low-lifes and so their self-esteem is seriously compromised?  They're bitter, petulant,
dishonest and very unhappy overall.  These are not characteristics of people with true high-level self-esteem, as you
and I have.   Conservatives are consistently happier people.  The most mentally unstable are Leftist women, according
to studies.

Good points!!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Kamaji on June 30, 2023, 12:00:33 am
Analyze that point carefully.  Is it perhaps that Leftists CLAIM intellect, rationality and morality, but deep down inside,
they know that they are really low-lifes and so their self-esteem is seriously compromised?  They're bitter, petulant,
dishonest and very unhappy overall.  These are not characteristics of people with true high-level self-esteem, as you
and I have.   Conservatives are consistently happier people.  The most mentally unstable are Leftist women, according
to studies.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 30, 2023, 12:52:55 am
:thumbsup:

Thank you for the :thumbsup: friend!

I get those every single day I hold up my sign in my car to the car next to me at a red light.
The sign reads "BRAKE LIGHT OUT"

Almost invariably I get a thumbs up from the driver.  Then I flip the sign over to the other side which reads:
"NO BIDEN SUPPORTER HELPED YOU"

Almost invariably I get laughter even here in Southern California.  Occasionally I get a bitter look or a middle finger.
I just laugh at them and point, so they know they are idiots whose opinions only make me laugh at them.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 30, 2023, 06:14:14 pm
"Experts and the educated elite have...replaced what worked with what sounded good. Society was far more civilized before they took over our schools, prisons, welfare programs, police departments and courts. It's high time we ran these people out of our lives and went back to common sense." -- The Late Walter Williams, Economics Professor, George Mason University
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 30, 2023, 06:19:42 pm
Walter was correct about a LOT of things!  I miss him....Now there is nobody to tell me to go to the head of the class.... :crying:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on June 30, 2023, 06:46:31 pm
Walter was correct about a LOT of things!  I miss him....Now there is nobody to tell me to go to the head of the class.... :crying:

For several years I carried on a running correspondence with Dr. Williams from which I learned a great deal. He was and is a giant! I sorely miss him.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: DB on June 30, 2023, 08:01:57 pm
For several years I carried on a running correspondence with Dr. Williams from which I learned a great deal. He was and is a giant! I sorely miss him.

That's awesome!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on June 30, 2023, 08:36:12 pm
I invited him to my home for any visit to California, in place of checking into a hotel.  I told Dr. Williams he would be welcome to use my 21 speed road bike during his stay for exercise.   He said "That would take some getting used to" and never was my guest, alas. He hosted the Rush Limbaugh Show and when a smartaleck woman called in to say, "You're a conservative!" as a criticism, he replied, "Oh no, ma'am, I'm a radical."
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 01, 2023, 05:53:43 pm
"Morality is the necessary spring of popular government.... Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without Christianity." - - George Washington



Homosexual perversion, molesting and grooming children, and transgender insanity are the worst kind of immorality and destructiveness.



Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 02, 2023, 04:19:41 am
".... no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end." - Ecclesiastes 3:11

"There is an infinite amount of research to do." - Scientists, eager for an infinite amount of government grants, confirming Ecclesiastes 3:11

Of course. They spend a lot of time asking the wrong questions and looking in the wrong places.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on July 02, 2023, 08:13:18 am
Of course. They spend a lot of time asking the wrong questions and looking in the wrong places.

@Smokin Joe

Well,if they already knew it all,there would be no reason to do any research,and nobody ever found the "right places" without discovering a few "wrong places" first.

It's just the nature of the bidnez.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on July 02, 2023, 12:12:10 pm
Of course. They spend a lot of time asking the wrong questions and looking in the wrong places.

With equipment that is not properly calibrated and located in places that predetermine the values.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 02, 2023, 09:54:02 pm
@Smokin Joe

Well,if they already knew it all,there would be no reason to do any research,and nobody ever found the "right places" without discovering a few "wrong places" first.

It's just the nature of the bidnez.
First off, no one will ever know it all. And yes, every answer brings more questions.

I don't have so much a problem with looking the wrong place, either, as long as the logic was sound. After all, I'm an oilfield geologist, and despite our best efforts we occasionally still drill dry holes. But if it isn't there, we know it isn't when we're done, and can move on.

The problem is one of researchers asking the wrong questions, questions designed to produce an indeterminate result, which, coupled with standard academic closings of any research paper will lead to the conclusion that more research is needed, perpetuating the grant money stream.

In industry, a definitive answer is worth money.
In academia, the research is moneymaker, answers (unless patentable), not so much.

Which is why the sex life of Ordovician Brachiopods is left to academia, while industry focuses on smaller/lighter/faster/stronger/more efficient/more productive, etc.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 03, 2023, 01:31:45 pm
"The science to which I pinned my faith is bankrupt. Its counsels, which should have established the millennium, have led directly to the suicide of Europe. I believed them once. In their name I helped to destroy the faith of millions. And now they look at me and witness the great tragedy of an atheist who has lost his faith." - George Bernard Shaw, lifelong atheist until just before his death, 1950, Too True to Be Good
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 04, 2023, 01:18:16 pm
If atheism is so "rational" and "scientific," then why do atheists leave their beliefs more frequently than any other religion?  The U.S. Supreme Court declared that atheism is a religion. - Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488 (1961)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 05, 2023, 08:24:15 pm
"For me, and I suspected for a growing number of young people, I had to divest myself of the “silly” ideas instilled in me by science, not religion; in the twenty-first century, science, not the Church, is the oppressor that champions a worldview that has to be cast off." – George Stanciu, St. John’s College
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on July 05, 2023, 09:41:21 pm
   People will always ask questions above their Rational to comprehend.  It's referred to as Human Perspective and I believe it to be encoded in our DNA.

   Just look at the Historical, Archaeological and Geological record of our planet with your Religious Blinders off, perhaps you will have a whole different perspective, like me.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2023, 09:55:16 pm
   People will always ask questions above their Rational to comprehend.  It's referred to as Human Perspective and I believe it to be encoded in our DNA.

   Just look at the Historical, Archaeological and Geological record of our planet with your Religious Blinders off, perhaps you will have a whole different perspective, like me.

As the saying goes, one's reach should exceed one's grasp.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on July 05, 2023, 10:21:37 pm
   I would assume you are very much alone in your chosen Career Field @ChemEngrMBA
   Most in your field would follow (Proven) Science and not dabble in Theology, correct me if I'm wrong.

   I admire your tenacity.   :beer:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 06, 2023, 12:59:32 am
As the saying goes, one's reach should exceed one's grasp.

... or what's a heaven for?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on July 06, 2023, 01:14:53 am
   I don't deny the positive that Religion has had on Mankind, especially in the foundation of Governments.  Ever
 since Constantine adopting Christianity in ancient Rome. 
   I also cannot deny the Evil, in the name of their perceived G_d, that they have wrought across our Societal Map through the AGES.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 06, 2023, 01:30:38 am
   I would assume you are very much alone in your chosen Career Field @ChemEngrMBA
   Most in your field would follow (Proven) Science and not dabble in Theology, correct me if I'm wrong.

   I admire your tenacity.   :beer:

My Dear Corbe,
Thank you for your genuine and kind remarks.   There are a number of factors which figure in to people schooled in sciences and their theological expressions or comments.  Most don't want to be confrontational or argue and it's easier to just go with the naturalistic/atheist/intellectual flow.  Don't rock the boat or make waves, as it were.

However this is a critically important subject to each and every one of us.  Don't get it wrong!   There are so many persuasive scientific, historical, and paleontological findings that point to Nature's God, I can't see how anyone can doubt His Existence.
As I have said many times, 85% of Nobel Laureates in the sciences are believers. Don't anyone tell me they are stupid or "bible thumpers."  You see, atheists are always the first ones to thump a Bible whenever you point out scientific evidence for Nature's God.

I have no problem standing alone in any size crowd. I've done so before many times.  I once emailed the entire Harvard Law School faculty over the bizarre, emotional rant of one of their professors, who "almost threw up" when the President suggest that perhaps some research was warranted to discover why men overwhelmingly prefer math, engineering and science, compared to women.

This was upsetting to Little Miss Feminist to think that ::: gasp:::: men and women are......different.

Nobody responded to me with any counterpoints in defense of their crybaby professor.

I have also challenged experts in their own fields when they were wrong and had my letters of challenge published in the Wall Street Journal and National Geographic Magazine.

It is fun to have fun but you have to know how. - The Cat in the Hat (page 28 I do believe)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on July 06, 2023, 01:48:30 am
  My bad @ChemEngrMBA I had just assumed that most Chemical Engineers would have more Questions than answers at this point, this you do not portray. 
  I don't even know why I'm replying on this Thread, maybe like you, I am looking for answers to questions.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 06, 2023, 08:02:43 pm
  My bad @ChemEngrMBA I had just assumed that most Chemical Engineers would have more Questions than answers at this point, this you do not portray. 
  I don't even know why I'm replying on this Thread, maybe like you, I am looking for answers to questions.

That you reject answers does not make them any less true.
Now please pose your questions, the ones for which you claim to seek answers.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 07, 2023, 01:25:37 pm
That you reject answers does not make them any less true.
Now please pose your questions, the ones for which you claim to seek answers.

As I expected.  She makes claims "to seek answers" but when asked for specifics, comes up empty.


Now for today's thought:

   
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened."  - Winston Churchill
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on July 07, 2023, 04:52:14 pm
‘That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.’
Aldous Huxley
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on July 08, 2023, 03:06:31 am
(https://i.imgflip.com/248m8i.jpg)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 08, 2023, 01:12:44 pm
It is a sin to worry.  Let God do your worrying for you. Lay your worries on Him. - D. James Kennedy, PhD
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 09, 2023, 09:06:35 pm
" In Heaven, there will be no law, and the lion will lie down with the lamb…. The worse the society, the more law there will be. In Hell, there will be nothing but law, and due process will be meticulously observed.” - Professor Grant Gilmore (1977 lecture)

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 10, 2023, 03:14:19 pm
"A fool contributes nothing and takes offense at everything." - Aristotle
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on July 10, 2023, 03:37:54 pm
Now you are going to resort to full-time Bible-Thumping with every post here?

@ChemEngrMBA

@mystery-ak
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: mystery-ak on July 10, 2023, 04:22:03 pm
Now you are going to resort to full-time Bible-Thumping with every post here?

@ChemEngrMBA

@mystery-ak

How about not clicking on this thread..infact on your profile page you can *ignore* this thread..
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on July 10, 2023, 09:30:59 pm
How about not clicking on this thread..infact on your profile page you can *ignore* this thread..

@mystery-ak

Ok,so you are now welcoming fundie threads and all the insanity and fear they bring with them.

You DO know that @ChemEngrMBA is getting more radical every day,right? It is no longer an occasional thing with him. He is doing it every day.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 10, 2023, 09:59:47 pm
@mystery-ak

Ok,so you are now welcoming fundie threads and all the insanity and fear they bring with them.

You DO know that @ChemEngrMBA is getting more radical every day,right? It is no longer an occasional thing with him. He is doing it every day.

"Fundie thread": 

Today - Quoted Aristotle  "Fundie" 
"A fool contributes nothing and takes offense at everything." - Aristotle
Yesterday - Quoted College Professor  "Fundie"
July 7 - Quoted Winston Churchill  "Fundie"
July 5 - Quoted College Professor "Fundie"
July 4 - Quoted Supreme Court Decision "Fundie"
Julyo 3 - quoted George Bernard Shaw "Fundie"
July 1 - Quoted President George Washington "Fundie"

The "insanity and fear" is all yours. I did not bring any of it in.  You bathe in it. 
It is your metier.  Read Aristotle's quote for today.  Ironically, I posted it before you threw your hissy fits, as if anticipating
your follies.

Now go away and don't come back to this thread since it only brings you "insanity and fear," and I think rightly so.
Your future is very dim, but evidently so is your past.

Dear AK, please block this interloper from visiting this thread again. I will pay you to do so.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on July 10, 2023, 10:07:33 pm
"Fundie thread": 

Today - Quoted Aristotle  "Fundie" 
"A fool contributes nothing and takes offense at everything." - Aristotle
Yesterday - Quoted College Professor  "Fundie"
July 7 - Quoted Winston Churchill  "Fundie"
July 5 - Quoted College Professor "Fundie"
July 4 - Quoted Supreme Court Decision "Fundie"
Julyo 3 - quoted George Bernard Shaw "Fundie"
July 1 - Quoted President George Washington "Fundie"

The "insanity and fear" is all yours. I did not bring any of it in.  You bathe in it. 
It is your metier.  Read Aristotle's quote for today.  Ironically, I posted it before you threw your hissy fits, as if anticipating
your follies.

Now go away and don't come back to this thread since it only brings you "insanity and fear," and I think rightly so.
Your future is very dim, but evidently so is your past.

Dear AK, please block this interloper from visiting this thread again. I will pay you to do so.

@ChemEngrMBA

With ALL DUE respect,ESAD!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 10, 2023, 10:19:30 pm
@sneakypete

Please read Nancy's post again. Let us know if you have a problem setting up "Ignore Thread." 

TBR is not meant for deep threads about religion,  but we aren't anti-religious either.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: mystery-ak on July 10, 2023, 10:24:40 pm
@sneakypete

Please read Nancy's post again. Let us know if you have a problem setting up "Ignore Thread." 

TBR is not meant for deep threads about religion,  but we aren't anti-religious either.

I wouldn't say this is a religious thread...it is a thought of the day...if you don't like the quote move along or go to another thread...

My gosh I have a quote from Matthew on my tag line..if it bothers someone get over it!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on July 10, 2023, 11:01:21 pm
@sneakypete

Please read Nancy's post again. Let us know if you have a problem setting up "Ignore Thread." 

TBR is not meant for deep threads about religion, but we aren't anti-religious either.

@Cyber Liberty

I am not the one you need to be explaining that to,but you already know that,don't you?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 12, 2023, 02:52:25 am
@ChemEngrMBA @sneakypete

I removed a couple of posts.  Stop this fight right now!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 12, 2023, 01:04:38 pm
"I've come to believe there is little, if any, honesty in the media, and ethic is a word they are totally unfamiliar with." --Ronald Reagan

This was said at a time long before the media slid deep into the cesspool of lies and being lackeys for Democrats.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on July 12, 2023, 01:10:37 pm
"I've come to believe there is little, if any, honesty in the media, and ethic is a word they are totally unfamiliar with." --Ronald Reagan

This was said at a time long before the media slid deep into the cesspool of lies and being lackeys for Democrats.

He obviously was right on this.  Little honesty or ethics could be applied to most in our government.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on July 17, 2023, 01:12:45 pm
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist and the "Administrator" who refused to ban him from harassing me and making stupid comments.  He was too petty and ignorant to ignore me and likewise the "Administrator" told both of us to stop it, as if we were equals.  That was not remotely true.

Happy now "Administrator"?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on July 17, 2023, 01:39:59 pm
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist and the "Administrator" who refused to ban him from harassing me and making stupid comments.  He was too petty and ignorant to ignore me and likewise the "Administrator" told both of us to stop it, as if we were equals.  That was not remotely true.

Happy now "Administrator"?

My two cents @ChemEngrMBA  -- It is a shame that you have decided to stop posting, but atheist or not, he has a right to his opinion as do you.  I don't know what the squabble was about but I have found the Administrators and Mods to be more than fair and at times they are faced with tough decisions. They are human and get frustrated as well.  I have been on this forum almost 9 years and have never found a forum any better nor a group of people any finer, though I too have become frustrated at times -- I spend a few days away and have always come back because there are too many in here that I do enjoy debating with and sharing opinions with. They have also helped me through some difficult times. We are all equals in here and you have the opportunity to put anyone on 'ignore' as well. 

Just sayin'.  I hope you enjoy your day. 
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: bigheadfred on July 17, 2023, 02:30:06 pm
"If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, I guess you do have a problem."

Richard Bach
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on July 17, 2023, 03:02:48 pm
"If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, I guess you do have a problem."

Richard Bach

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 17, 2023, 03:12:29 pm
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist and the "Administrator" who refused to ban him from harassing me and making stupid comments.  He was too petty and ignorant to ignore me and likewise the "Administrator" told both of us to stop it, as if we were equals.  That was not remotely true.

Happy now "Administrator"?

I did what I always do.  Neither of you earned a Time Out.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on July 17, 2023, 03:15:21 pm
I got permanently booted from FB for saying the exact same thing!

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1680956351881658370

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Hoodat on July 18, 2023, 01:39:11 am
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist

There's an atheist in our midst?  Do tell.  I've been on this earth over half a century, and have met only one true atheist.  I've met plenty of folks who didn't like God, but only one who truly did not believe.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on July 18, 2023, 01:44:32 am
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist and the "Administrator" who refused to ban him from harassing me and making stupid comments.  He was too petty and ignorant to ignore me and likewise the "Administrator" told both of us to stop it, as if we were equals.  That was not remotely true.

Happy now "Administrator"?

Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 18, 2023, 01:53:13 am
Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.

I'll just call it one of my many successes as Admin....
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: DB on July 18, 2023, 01:56:24 am
Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.

I tried suggesting that and got scolded for it...
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on July 18, 2023, 02:03:02 am
Good grief everyone .... this thread and forum needs a great big group hug????    happy77


Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on July 18, 2023, 02:15:56 am
Good grief everyone .... this thread and forum needs a great big group hug????    happy77

No more group hugs please... @corbe keeps humping my leg.  :nono:

 :tongue2: :silly:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 18, 2023, 03:29:26 am
Good grief everyone .... this thread and forum needs a great big group hug????    happy77

I guess it beats my just deleting the thread.. happy77
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Lando Lincoln on July 18, 2023, 04:18:08 am
Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.

There are puppies?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: DCPatriot on July 18, 2023, 10:05:26 am
Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.

"Personally"    :laugh:  :bolt:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: bigheadfred on July 18, 2023, 02:53:36 pm
Nearly all men can stand adversity,
but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
- Abraham Lincoln
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on July 18, 2023, 03:18:02 pm
Nearly all men can stand adversity,
but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
- Abraham Lincoln

Certainly something to ponder with those currently now in power. Most have no integrity whatsoever.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on July 18, 2023, 03:37:02 pm
Ours is not a fated existence, for nowhere is our destiny etched in stone.  In the final analysis, the last line of defense in support of freedom and the Constitution consists of the people themselves.

-- Ron Paul
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on September 04, 2023, 12:27:53 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_program

In chapter 3 of his book The Blind Watchmaker, Dawkins gave the following introduction to the program, referencing the well-known infinite monkey theorem:
I don't know who it was first pointed out that, given enough time, a monkey bashing away at random on a typewriter could produce all the works of Shakespeare. The operative phrase is, of course, given enough time. Let us limit the task facing our monkey somewhat. Suppose that he has to produce, not the complete works of Shakespeare but just the short sentence 'Methinks it is like a weasel', and we shall make it relatively easy by giving him a typewriter with a restricted keyboard, one with just the 26 (capital) letters, and a space bar. How long will he take to write this one little sentence?

[NOTE:  How lazy of Richard Dawkins to fail to look up the author of his monkey business.  It was Sir Arthur Eddington.   
In 1928, British astrophysicist Arthur Eddington presented a classical illustration of chance in his book, The Nature of the Physical World: “If I let my fingers wander idly over the keys of a typewriter it might happen that my screed made an intelligible sentence. If an army of monkeys were strumming on typewriters they might write all the books in the British Museum.”
This is nonsense compounding nonsense.  And yet my high school math teacher presented this proposition to his classes in the 1960’s.
First, an “army of monkeys” wouldn’t be very interested in hitting typewriter keys repeatedly.  There is nothing for them to gain in so doing. 
Second, those who did hit the keys would quickly get to the end of the line, and have no concept of returning the carriage to type the second line.
Third, those very few who somehow

overcame the first and second hurdles, repeatedly, would find that the paper was ejected from the carriage, and they are hopelessly unable to replace the first page with a fresh sheet of paper.
Fourth, we will never get to the fourth problem of exhausting the ink in the typewriter ribbons because the “army of monkeys” would have defecated on or otherwise ruined every typewriter.
Fifth, Sir Arthur Eddington never began to consider the statistics of monkeys “selecting” 1 out of approximately 100 different keys, counting upper and lower case of all letters, numbers, and punctuation marks.  A page of an average book has 250 – 300 words.  (https://hotghostwriter.com/blogs/blog/novel-length-how-long-is-long-enough)
The average word has 6.47 letters. (https://capitalizemytitle.com/character-count/100-characters/)

Using the lower value of 250 words, times 6.47 letters equals 1,617 characters in a page.
1/100 to the 1,617th power is 10 to the -3,234, for just one page, much less “all the books in the British Museum.”
“we just think of one chance in 10 to the 40th power” as “impossible”. – Richard Dawkins, (The Blind Watchmaker, page 142)
Emil Borel, a famous statistician, defined “impossible” as an event with a probability of 10-50 or less.
https://owlcation.com/stem/Borels-Law-of-Probability
This is equivalent to finding one unique marble, in 78 spheres the size of our solar system out to Pluto, all full of identical marbles except for one, on your first and only attempt.  You do not get an infinite number of attempts, not even two. 
Therefore 10 to the 50 marbles, each 1cm in diameter, would occupy 78 spheres reaching from the center of the sun to Pluto, 5.906 billion kilometers from the sun.  (10 to the 5 marbles/km)cubed  = 10 to the 15 marbles per cubic km

To get 35 more orders of magnitude requires the multiplier of roughly (4.64 x 10 to the 11) cubed, for volume.
4.64x 10 to the 11 km/5.906 x 10 to the 9 km= ~78.5 spheres the size of our solar system to Pluto]

 Dawkins then goes on to show that a process of cumulative selection can take far fewer steps to reach any given target. In Dawkins':
We again use our computer monkey, but with a crucial difference in its program. It again begins by choosing a random sequence of 28 letters, just as before ... it duplicates it repeatedly, but with a certain chance of random error – 'mutation' – in the copying. The computer examines the mutant nonsense phrases, the 'progeny' of the original phrase, and chooses the one which, however slightly, most resembles the target phrase, METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL.

By repeating the procedure, a randomly generated sequence of 28 letters and spaces will be gradually changed each generation. The sequences progress through each generation:
Generation 01:   WDLTMNLT DTJBKWIRZREZLMQCO P [2]
Generation 02:   WDLTMNLT DTJBSWIRZREZLMQCO P
Generation 10:   MDLDMNLS ITJISWHRZREZ MECS P
Generation 20:   MELDINLS IT ISWPRKE Z WECSEL
Generation 30:   METHINGS IT ISWLIKE B WECSEL
Generation 40:   METHINKS IT IS LIKE I WEASEL
Generation 43:   METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
Dawkins continues:
The exact time taken by the computer to reach the target doesn't matter. If you want to know, it completed the whole exercise for me, the first time, while I was out to lunch. It took about half an hour. (Computer enthusiasts may think this unduly slow. The reason is that the program was written in BASIC, a sort of computer baby-talk. When I rewrote it in Pascal, it took 11 seconds.) Computers are a bit faster at this kind of thing than monkeys, but the difference really isn't significant. What matters is the difference between the time taken by cumulative selection, and the time which the same computer, working flat out at the same rate, would take to reach the target phrase if it were forced to use the other procedure of single-step selection: about a million million million million million years. This is more than a million million million times as long as the universe has so far existed.


[So much for Dawkins’ specious argument in defense of Darwinism, which he proudly claimed, “… made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”  (http://UncommonDescent.com) Twenty-six capital letters plus the space bar equals twenty-seven. Twenty-seven to the twenty-eighth power equals ten to the fortieth different possible combinations, of which we seek only one specifically.  Dawkins admits his definition of “impossible” is 1 chance in 10 to the 40th power.  This is not for all of Shakespeare’s works, but for one short sentence, and even then on a dramatically altered keyboard, not of fifty possible keys, lower case, and fifty more keys, upper case, but for only twenty-six keys, all upper case.
Of critical but neglected importance is the fact that for “selection” to occur, the intermediary produced by the random mutation MUST confer a “selective advantage” for the host organism, otherwise it will be lost.  It is therefore incumbent on the advocate for Darwinism to demonstrate, in each case, what that improvement is and how it operates, every single time, without exception.   This is easily done when copying short sentences, but not so easily done when originally constructing over 20,000 proteins in humans *a, the largest of which is titin, at 38,138*b amino acid residues in length. 1 out of 20 amino acids “selected” consecutively 38,138 times has a probability of 1 chance in 10 to the 49,618.  This is for only one protein. Calculating for chirality, i.e. the “selection” of L amino acids instead of D amino acidsc and all peptide bonds rather than the equally probable non-peptide bondsd reduces the probability of original naturalistic synthesis to 1 chance in 10 to the 72,578.  Twenty thousand more proteins to go! – John Phillip Jaeger]
a -  https://www.omim.org/entry/188840\
b - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4889822/
c - ½ to the 38,138 = 10-11,480
d - ½ to the 38,138 = 10-11,480




Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Hoodat on September 04, 2023, 02:10:47 am

[So much for Dawkins’ specious argument in defense of Darwinism, which he proudly claimed, “… made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”  (http://UncommonDescent.com)


Darwinism does not disqualify the existence of G-d.  If anything, it wholly relies it.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 04, 2023, 09:20:26 am
Which takes me back to Paleontology Class, day one, where the professor wrote a few different things for the Origin of life on the board...

Aliens,

Space debris containing organics to jump start the process on Earth,

Evolution.

Divine creation (which received such short shrift I protested and was told that by the end of the year I'd be made a 'believer'.).

Believer in what? Why, evolution, of course.

At the end of the year, after I had my 'A' for Vertebrate Paleo (second semester of the year course) in hand, I was asked by the professor if he'd made a 'believer' out of me.
I said, (somewhat lightheartedly) "Nope. Look at the odds. Either there is a God or there isn't. Either he created it all or he didn't. That is a one-in-four shot.  Way better than assembling the first bacterium at random, and that won't get you through any of the hypothetical ancestors or dotted lines on the way to Homo sapiens.  But it has been an interesting class. " 

I'll  give him credit, he did not appear crestfallen, and we remained friends, but I was only convinced of the far greater improbability that humans originated from a random process.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Hoodat on September 05, 2023, 03:15:00 am
I'll  give him credit, he did not appear crestfallen, and we remained friends, but I was only convinced of the far greater improbability that humans originated from a random process.

I once heard that probability described the same as a tornado striking a junk yard filled with spare airplane parts and leaving behind a fully assembled functional Boeing 747 in its wake.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on September 15, 2023, 11:37:45 pm
I received this email yesterday from Douglas Axe, Chief of Microbiology Department at Biola University:
_____________________________

•   johnjaeger
Thu 9/14/2023 11:35 AM
Hi John—

Your critique of the Dawkins weasel demonstration found its way to me, and I agree with it entirely. I offered my own critique in Undeniable (p198-200). You hit the nail on the head!
Regrettably, even solid refutations of evolutionary arguments like this don’t seem to get their proponents to rethink their position. I’ve become convinced that this is because the root problem is spiritual, not scientific or intellectual.
Best regards,
Doug Axe
Douglas Axe, PhD
Rosa Endowed Chair of Molecular Biology
Professor of Computational Biology
Co-Director of Stewart Science Honors Program
School of Science, Technology & Health
Biola University



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_program

In chapter 3 of his book The Blind Watchmaker, Dawkins gave the following introduction to the program, referencing the well-known infinite monkey theorem:
I don't know who it was first pointed out that, given enough time, a monkey bashing away at random on a typewriter could produce all the works of Shakespeare. The operative phrase is, of course, given enough time. Let us limit the task facing our monkey somewhat. Suppose that he has to produce, not the complete works of Shakespeare but just the short sentence 'Methinks it is like a weasel', and we shall make it relatively easy by giving him a typewriter with a restricted keyboard, one with just the 26 (capital) letters, and a space bar. How long will he take to write this one little sentence?

[NOTE:  How lazy of Richard Dawkins to fail to look up the author of his monkey business.  It was Sir Arthur Eddington.   
In 1928, British astrophysicist Arthur Eddington presented a classical illustration of chance in his book, The Nature of the Physical World: “If I let my fingers wander idly over the keys of a typewriter it might happen that my screed made an intelligible sentence. If an army of monkeys were strumming on typewriters they might write all the books in the British Museum.”
This is nonsense compounding nonsense.  And yet my high school math teacher presented this proposition to his classes in the 1960’s.
First, an “army of monkeys” wouldn’t be very interested in hitting typewriter keys repeatedly.  There is nothing for them to gain in so doing. 
Second, those who did hit the keys would quickly get to the end of the line, and have no concept of returning the carriage to type the second line.
Third, those very few who somehow

overcame the first and second hurdles, repeatedly, would find that the paper was ejected from the carriage, and they are hopelessly unable to replace the first page with a fresh sheet of paper.
Fourth, we will never get to the fourth problem of exhausting the ink in the typewriter ribbons because the “army of monkeys” would have defecated on or otherwise ruined every typewriter.
Fifth, Sir Arthur Eddington never began to consider the statistics of monkeys “selecting” 1 out of approximately 100 different keys, counting upper and lower case of all letters, numbers, and punctuation marks.  A page of an average book has 250 – 300 words.  (https://hotghostwriter.com/blogs/blog/novel-length-how-long-is-long-enough)
The average word has 6.47 letters. (https://capitalizemytitle.com/character-count/100-characters/)

Using the lower value of 250 words, times 6.47 letters equals 1,617 characters in a page.
1/100 to the 1,617th power is 10 to the -3,234, for just one page, much less “all the books in the British Museum.”
“we just think of one chance in 10 to the 40th power” as “impossible”. – Richard Dawkins, (The Blind Watchmaker, page 142)
Emil Borel, a famous statistician, defined “impossible” as an event with a probability of 10-50 or less.
https://owlcation.com/stem/Borels-Law-of-Probability
This is equivalent to finding one unique marble, in 78 spheres the size of our solar system out to Pluto, all full of identical marbles except for one, on your first and only attempt.  You do not get an infinite number of attempts, not even two. 
Therefore 10 to the 50 marbles, each 1cm in diameter, would occupy 78 spheres reaching from the center of the sun to Pluto, 5.906 billion kilometers from the sun.  (10 to the 5 marbles/km)cubed  = 10 to the 15 marbles per cubic km

To get 35 more orders of magnitude requires the multiplier of roughly (4.64 x 10 to the 11) cubed, for volume.
4.64x 10 to the 11 km/5.906 x 10 to the 9 km= ~78.5 spheres the size of our solar system to Pluto]

 Dawkins then goes on to show that a process of cumulative selection can take far fewer steps to reach any given target. In Dawkins':
We again use our computer monkey, but with a crucial difference in its program. It again begins by choosing a random sequence of 28 letters, just as before ... it duplicates it repeatedly, but with a certain chance of random error – 'mutation' – in the copying. The computer examines the mutant nonsense phrases, the 'progeny' of the original phrase, and chooses the one which, however slightly, most resembles the target phrase, METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL.

By repeating the procedure, a randomly generated sequence of 28 letters and spaces will be gradually changed each generation. The sequences progress through each generation:
Generation 01:   WDLTMNLT DTJBKWIRZREZLMQCO P [2]
Generation 02:   WDLTMNLT DTJBSWIRZREZLMQCO P
Generation 10:   MDLDMNLS ITJISWHRZREZ MECS P
Generation 20:   MELDINLS IT ISWPRKE Z WECSEL
Generation 30:   METHINGS IT ISWLIKE B WECSEL
Generation 40:   METHINKS IT IS LIKE I WEASEL
Generation 43:   METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
Dawkins continues:
The exact time taken by the computer to reach the target doesn't matter. If you want to know, it completed the whole exercise for me, the first time, while I was out to lunch. It took about half an hour. (Computer enthusiasts may think this unduly slow. The reason is that the program was written in BASIC, a sort of computer baby-talk. When I rewrote it in Pascal, it took 11 seconds.) Computers are a bit faster at this kind of thing than monkeys, but the difference really isn't significant. What matters is the difference between the time taken by cumulative selection, and the time which the same computer, working flat out at the same rate, would take to reach the target phrase if it were forced to use the other procedure of single-step selection: about a million million million million million years. This is more than a million million million times as long as the universe has so far existed.


[So much for Dawkins’ specious argument in defense of Darwinism, which he proudly claimed, “… made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”  (http://UncommonDescent.com) Twenty-six capital letters plus the space bar equals twenty-seven. Twenty-seven to the twenty-eighth power equals ten to the fortieth different possible combinations, of which we seek only one specifically.  Dawkins admits his definition of “impossible” is 1 chance in 10 to the 40th power.  This is not for all of Shakespeare’s works, but for one short sentence, and even then on a dramatically altered keyboard, not of fifty possible keys, lower case, and fifty more keys, upper case, but for only twenty-six keys, all upper case.
Of critical but neglected importance is the fact that for “selection” to occur, the intermediary produced by the random mutation MUST confer a “selective advantage” for the host organism, otherwise it will be lost.  It is therefore incumbent on the advocate for Darwinism to demonstrate, in each case, what that improvement is and how it operates, every single time, without exception.   This is easily done when copying short sentences, but not so easily done when originally constructing over 20,000 proteins in humans *a, the largest of which is titin, at 38,138*b amino acid residues in length. 1 out of 20 amino acids “selected” consecutively 38,138 times has a probability of 1 chance in 10 to the 49,618.  This is for only one protein. Calculating for chirality, i.e. the “selection” of L amino acids instead of D amino acidsc and all peptide bonds rather than the equally probable non-peptide bondsd reduces the probability of original naturalistic synthesis to 1 chance in 10 to the 72,578.  Twenty thousand more proteins to go! – John Phillip Jaeger]
a -  https://www.omim.org/entry/188840\
b - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4889822/
c - ½ to the 38,138 = 10-11,480
d - ½ to the 38,138 = 10-11,480




Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 16, 2023, 12:19:56 am
I received this email yesterday from Douglas Axe, Chief of Microbiology Department at Biola University:
_____________________________

•   johnjaeger
Thu 9/14/2023 11:35 AM
Hi John—

Your critique of the Dawkins weasel demonstration found its way to me, and I agree with it entirely. I offered my own critique in Undeniable (p198-200). You hit the nail on the head!
Regrettably, even solid refutations of evolutionary arguments like this don’t seem to get their proponents to rethink their position. I’ve become convinced that this is because the root problem is spiritual, not scientific or intellectual.
Best regards,
Doug Axe
Douglas Axe, PhD
Rosa Endowed Chair of Molecular Biology
Professor of Computational Biology
Co-Director of Stewart Science Honors Program
School of Science, Technology & Health
Biola University

Now I'm interested in your letter to him.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on September 17, 2023, 01:23:21 am
Now I'm interested in your letter to him.

It is immediately above your request for it.  Post #141.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 17, 2023, 02:29:16 pm
It is immediately above your request for it.  Post #141.

Ooops!  My bad.  Sometimes I don't see the things I should.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 17, 2023, 02:37:45 pm
Ooops!  My bad.  Sometimes I don't see the things I should.

That is very interesting.  It reminds me of the mathematical argument arguing for the idea that two snowflakes can never be alike.  The number of crystalline permutations required to grow a snowflake is equally astronomical as the case of the typing monkeys.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on October 27, 2023, 01:10:26 pm
" - A large-scale 1972 study found that persons who did not attend
church were four times as likely to commit suicide than were frequent
church attenders.
 - One survey of nearly 14,000 youths found that substance abuse varied
in direct proportion to strength of religious commitment.  The authors
concluded that 'importance of religion' was the single best predictor of
substance abuse patterns.
 - Several studies have found that alcohol abuse is highest among those
with little or no religious commitment.
 - Religious people recover from surgery more quickly than do their
atheistic and agnostic counterparts.
 - A number of studies have found a strong inverse correlation between
church attendance and divorce.
 - A 1978 study found that church attendance predicted marital
satisfaction better than any other single variable.
 - Very religious women report greater happiness and satisfaction with
marital sex.

In short, the burden of both clinical experience and the research data
suggests that among the most important determinants of human happiness
and psychological well-being are our spiritual beliefs and moral
choices."

God: The Evidence, by Patrick Glynn

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on October 27, 2023, 10:30:21 pm
" - A large-scale 1972 study found that persons who did not attend
church were four times as likely to commit suicide than were frequent
church attenders.
 - One survey of nearly 14,000 youths found that substance abuse varied
in direct proportion to strength of religious commitment.  The authors
concluded that 'importance of religion' was the single best predictor of
substance abuse patterns.
 - Several studies have found that alcohol abuse is highest among those
with little or no religious commitment.
 - Religious people recover from surgery more quickly than do their
atheistic and agnostic counterparts.
 - A number of studies have found a strong inverse correlation between
church attendance and divorce.
 - A 1978 study found that church attendance predicted marital
satisfaction better than any other single variable.
 - Very religious women report greater happiness and satisfaction with
marital sex.

In short, the burden of both clinical experience and the research data
suggests that among the most important determinants of human happiness
and psychological well-being are our spiritual beliefs and moral
choices."

God: The Evidence, by Patrick Glynn


@ChemEngrMBA

It's ok if you like to  believe fairytales.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on October 28, 2023, 10:10:12 pm
Quotes from Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan




P 13: “...the Bible is ‘inerrant’ “.  [Mocking the Bible.]


P 28: “Except in pure mathematics, nothing is known for certain.”  [Carl wanted his fans and students to believe he knew a great deal for certain.]


P 29: “Science is not only compatible with spirituality, it is a profound source of spirituality.”

[After mocking the Bible on page 13, he now applauds it alongside science.]

 
P 30: “If you want to save your child from polio, you can pray or you can inoculate.”

[This is a very ignorant and misguided false "choice."  We pray and we inoculate, do we not?]


P 32: “Valid criticism does you a favor.”

[I've done many favors to Carl Sagan then, including writing to his publisher citing his many errors and self-contradictions, such as these. Elsewhere Sagan said "Sex was invented." - Page 28, I forgot which book, I critiqued so many of his.  When he wrote me a letter, all he could do was ask me to buy his newest book.
I never bought one. I checked them out at the library.  Then I sold his letter on EBay for $125.]
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on October 30, 2023, 08:24:51 pm
“I say unequivocally that the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt.” – Sir Lionel Luckhoo, The Most Successful Attorney in History, according to the Guiness Book of Records   
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on November 06, 2023, 02:27:57 pm

if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. - Philippians 4:8

Create your own Word document with this verse at the top and a growing list of the most memorable compliments you have been given by family and friends.  You can review and treasure it from time to time, and deservedly so.  Perhaps loved ones will read it at your memorial service to the delight and amazement of all present.





Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on November 14, 2023, 10:30:57 pm
“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.” – Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, at the U.N. in 1974

“I have been made victorious through terror.” – (Bukhari 4.52.220 - Mohammad)


Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 15, 2023, 12:59:48 am
 :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on November 19, 2023, 12:35:19 am
"It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor." --George Washington

"Morality is the necessary spring of popular government.... Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be
maintained without Christianity." - - George Washington

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. – President John Adams, second president and Founding Father

“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!” - Patrick Henry

"No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation, state or national, because this is a religious people.... This is a Christian nation." --U.S. Supreme Court (1892)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on November 19, 2023, 12:54:29 am
Should be titled "Brain Fart of the Day".

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on November 24, 2023, 01:27:44 am
The previous post is not shown as that individual is on my Ignore List.

"Go from the presence of a foolish man." - Proverbs I believe

"The lion does not turn around when a small dog barks." - Nigerian Proverb

Now on this Thanksgiving Day, to WHOM will all atheists give thanks?  We do not thank luck.  We do not thank money.
We give thanks to Almighty God, Nature's God.  And so today, atheists must make up something
inane they give "thanks" to.  How unfortunate for them.  How empty.


And Christmas is coming soon!  Ho, ho, ho.  Gnash your teeth.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on November 24, 2023, 08:06:22 am
The previous post is not shown as that individual is on my Ignore List.

"Go from the presence of a foolish man." - Proverbs I believe

"The lion does not turn around when a small dog barks." - Nigerian Proverb

Now on this Thanksgiving Day, to WHOM will all atheists give thanks?  We do not thank luck.  We do not thank money.
We thank friends, we thank family, and we thank Almighty God, Nature's God.  And so today, atheists must make up something
inane they give "thanks" to.  How unfortunate for them. How empty.

@ChemEngrMBA

No one because non-believers are not needy.

BTW,I am not  an atheist. That is just a different religion.

I am a non-believer in life after death.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 01, 2023, 01:59:41 am
I could have sworn I started a thread on the global warming fraud but I am unable to find it.  What a great improvement it would be to have a link to Threads Started under everyone's profile.

I will be adding this summary of a book to my website at TheGlobalWarmingFraud dot blogspot dot com

            

Why Scientists Disagree
About Global Warming
The NIPCC Report
on Scientific Consensus
Craig D. Idso, Robert M. Carter, S. Fred Singer
NIPCC
Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change
(110 Pages)
 xix
Key Findings
Key findings of this book include the following:
No Consensus
# The most important fact about climate science, often overlooked, is that
scientists disagree about the environmental impacts of the combustion
of fossil fuels on the global climate.
# The articles and surveys most commonly cited as showing support for
a “scientific consensus” in favor of the catastrophic man-made global
warming hypothesis are without exception methodologically flawed
and often deliberately misleading.
# There is no survey or study showing “consensus” on the most important
scientific issues in the climate change debate.
# Extensive survey data show deep disagreement among scientists on
scientific issues that must be resolved before the man-made global
warming hypothesis can be validated. Many prominent experts and
probably most working scientists disagree with the claims made by the
United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Why Scientists Disagree
# Climate is an interdisciplinary subject requiring insights from many
fields of study. Very few scholars have mastery of more than one or
two of these disciplines.
# Fundamental uncertainties arise from insufficient observational
evidence, disagreements over how to interpret data, and how to set the
parameters of models.

xix

xx WHY SCIENTISTS DISAGREE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
# IPCC, created to find and disseminate research finding a human impact
on global climate, is not a credible source. It is agenda-driven, a
political rather than scientific body, and some allege it is corrupt.
# Climate scientists, like all humans, can be biased. Origins of bias
include careerism, grant-seeking, political views, and confirmation bias.
Scientific Method vs. Political Science
# The hypothesis implicit in all IPCC writings, though rarely explicitly
stated, is that dangerous global warming is resulting, or will result, from
human-related greenhouse gas emissions.
# The null hypothesis is that currently observed changes in global climate
indices and the physical environment, as well as current changes in
animal and plant characteristics, are the result of natural variability.
# In contradiction of the scientific method, IPCC assumes its implicit
hypothesis is correct and that its only duty is to collect evidence and
make plausible arguments in the hypothesis’s favor.

Flawed Projections
# IPCC and virtually all the governments of the world depend on global
climate models (GCMs) to forecast the effects of human-related
greenhouse gas emissions on the climate.
# GCMs systematically over-estimate the sensitivity of climate to carbon
dioxide (CO2), many known forcings and feedbacks are poorly
modeled, and modelers exclude forcings and feedbacks that run counter
to their mission to find a human influence on climate.
# NIPCC estimates a doubling of CO 2 from pre-industrial levels (from
280 to 560 ppm) would likely produce a temperature forcing of 3.7
Wm-2 in the lower atmosphere, for about ~1°C of prima facie warming.
# Four specific forecasts made by GCMs have been falsified by
real-world data from a wide variety of sources. In particular, there has
been no global warming for some 18 years.


xxi

KEY FINDINGS
False Postulates
# Neither the rate nor the magnitude of the reported late twentieth century
surface warming (1979–2000) lay outside normal natural variability.
# The late twentieth century warm peak was of no greater magnitude than
previous peaks caused entirely by natural forcings and feedbacks.
# Historically, increases in atmospheric CO2 followed increases in
temperature, they did not precede them. Therefore, CO2 levels could not
have forced temperatures to rise.
# Solar forcings are not too small to explain twentieth century warming.
In fact, their effect could be equal to or greater than the effect of CO2
in the atmosphere.
# A warming of 2°C or more during the twenty-first century would
probably not be harmful, on balance, because many areas of the world
would benefit from or adjust to climate change.

Unreliable Circumstantial Evidence
# Melting of Arctic sea ice and polar icecaps is not occurring at
“unnatural” rates and does not constitute evidence of a human impact
on the climate.
# Best available data show sea-level rise is not accelerating. Local and
regional sea levels continue to exhibit typical natural variability – in
some places rising and in others falling.
# The link between warming and drought is weak, and by some measures
drought decreased over the twentieth century. Changes in the
hydrosphere of this type are regionally highly variable and show a
closer correlation with multidecadal climate rhythmicity than they do
with global temperature.
# No convincing relationship has been established between warming over
the past 100 years and increases in extreme weather events.








xxii WHY SCIENTISTS DISAGREE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
Meteorological science suggests just the opposite: A warmer world will
see milder weather patterns.
# No evidence exists that current changes in Arctic permafrost are other
than natural or are likely to cause a climate catastrophe by releasing
methane into the atmosphere.
Policy Implications
# Rather than rely exclusively on IPCC for scientific advice,
policymakers should seek out advice from independent, nongovernment
organizations and scientists who are free of financial and political
conflicts of interest.
# Individual nations should take charge of setting their own climate
policies based upon the hazards that apply to their particular geography,
geology, weather, and culture.
# Rather than invest scarce world resources in a quixotic campaign based
on politicized and unreliable science, world leaders would do well to
turn their attention to the real problems their people and their planet
face.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on December 01, 2023, 11:07:16 am
I could have sworn I started a thread on the global warming fraud but I am unable to find it.  What a great improvement it would be to have a link to Threads Started under everyone's profile.




@ChemEngrMBA   @mystery-ak

An excellent idea!

If this proves to be too much  work for Nancy,maybe she could set up the software (or whatever it is that would need to be set up) so that people could add their own ideas/brain farts in order to enable anyone interested in following their train of thoughts.

That could very well lead to additional ideas coming to light,and end up benefiting us all.

I will add that this should NOT be restricted to scientific thought. Maybe some people would be interested in gardening or car restoration,for example,but have no idea about how to get started or what is required.

One thing is for certain,and that is exposing people to new or different ideas opens their minds,and it can end up benefiting us all in different specific areas.

If an idea becomes so popular it receives a lot of readers and input,Nancy  can,at HER discretion make it into a section of interest for all.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: mystery-ak on December 01, 2023, 02:26:14 pm
Everything you post is on your profile page under Show Posts
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: DCPatriot on December 01, 2023, 02:34:26 pm
Everything you post is on your profile page under Show Posts

And choosing "keywords" and/or "search Titles" will narrow it down quite a bit.   

@ChemEngrMBA    :beer:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on December 01, 2023, 08:57:52 pm
Everything you post is on your profile page under Show Posts

@mystery-ak

My apologies.

Chemo Brain strikes again.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 02, 2023, 11:48:53 pm
Re:  Immediately preceding ignored post #161:
Some Leftists simply have to follow Christians and conservatives around to sniff their underwear, don't they.  I have no idea why.
I don't want to read their nonsense when I see what they're about.   They simply troll for the attention.


Everything you post is on your profile page under Show Posts
Almost everyone has so many posts it would take weeks to sift through all of them.
What is missing is THREADS STARTED in Profile.

Now to the Thought For The Day:

For unto whomsoever much is given of him much shall be required. - Luke 12:48

This has been interpreted as "God never gives you more than you can handle."

God obviously thinks I'm a badass.  I have to respect His Opinions.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 03, 2023, 01:54:15 pm
@ChemEngrMBA

When you click "Read Posts" in your profile, there is a tab called "Topics."  That will show the new threads you posted.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 03, 2023, 08:29:21 pm
"What is life?" asked a little girl.

“Life is something you’ve got to fill up well, without wasting any time. Even if you break it by filling it too full.” - Oriana Fallaci, Nothing and Amen
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 05, 2023, 09:11:27 pm
There are many, many more interactions than people have imagined between science and religion,” Townes said in a telephone interview from his hotel in New York. “(Both) are aimed at studying the same systems, the same universe.”  - Charles Townes,   Discoverer of Lasers, Nobel Laureate
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 09, 2023, 09:23:35 pm
“The most worthwhile thing is to put happiness in the lives of others.” – Robert Baden-Powell, founder of the Boy Scouts
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 11, 2023, 01:18:50 am
... beauty is God's handwriting. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 14, 2023, 10:39:52 pm
In case anyone is confused. Trump supporters do not worship Trump.
It has never been about a man. It has always been about an idea.
We support free speech, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, and America.
We support freedom, not san. We are not Trump supporters we are freedom
supporters and that will never change. It doesn't matter who is in charge.
We will never be silenced.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on December 15, 2023, 12:13:53 am
In case anyone is confused. Trump supporters do not worship Trump.
It has never been about a man. It has always been about an idea.
We support free speech, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, and America.
We support freedom, not san. We are not Trump supporters we are freedom
supporters and that will never change. It doesn't matter who is in charge.
We will never be silenced.


@ChemEngrMBA

Good luck getting the groupies that  are "Fan-bois and Fan-gurls" to believe that.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on December 17, 2023, 01:46:42 am
Quote
“My dear, I used to think I was serving humanity . . . and I pleasured in the thought. Then I discovered that humanity does not want to be served; on the contrary it resents any attempt to serve it. So now I do what pleases myself.”

― Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 17, 2023, 02:06:55 am



I have never before heard anything remotely resembling such an outrageous claim as his.

I have been serving humanity for decades, in as many ways as I possibly can, and the people I have served and helped have invariably thanked me graciously.  Ladies' flat tires on the side of the freeway - changed.  Litter on public sidewalks, streets, and shopping center parking lots - picked up.  Problems all around my city and county, corrected by me when possible, otherwise called in to the proper department, each of which I have in my cell phone memory.  We are talking numerous electrical shock hazards which could have killed a curious child. Once a child is killed, the repairs will come too late. 

Products I have purchased often could use improvements, and I personally notify the manufacturers, as I'm sure many others here do as well.  You can take care of yourself and serve others. They're not mutually exclusive activities by any means. In fact, it is my experience that service brings great personal joy.

"I slept and dreamed that life was joy.
I awoke and saw that life was duty.
I acted, and behold, duty was joy. - Rabindrinath Tagore
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on December 17, 2023, 02:26:34 am
  Sorry @ChemEngrMBA 

  Perhaps, I'll just go look for another Heinlein quote more in tune to this Thread that won't pizz ya off.

  Even though Heinlein published 32 novels, 59 short stories, and 16 collections during his life. Nine films, two television series, several episodes of a radio series, and a board game have been derived more or less directly from his work. He wrote a screenplay for one of the films. Heinlein edited an anthology of other writers' SF short stories.

   He really didn't have a lot to say.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on December 17, 2023, 02:58:32 am
  Sorry @ChemEngrMBA 

  Perhaps, I'll just go look for another Heinlein quote more in tune to this Thread that won't pizz ya off.

  Even though Heinlein published 32 novels, 59 short stories, and 16 collections during his life. Nine films, two television series, several episodes of a radio series, and a board game have been derived more or less directly from his work. He wrote a screenplay for one of the films. Heinlein edited an anthology of other writers' SF short stories.

   He really didn't have a lot to say.

@corbe

I've  been a Heinlein fan since I was a kid. I think I was around 8 when I got my first library card.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 17, 2023, 10:47:20 pm
  Sorry @ChemEngrMBA 

  Perhaps, I'll just go look for another Heinlein quote more in tune to this Thread that won't pizz ya off.

  Even though Heinlein published 32 novels, 59 short stories, and 16 collections during his life. Nine films, two television series, several episodes of a radio series, and a board game have been derived more or less directly from his work. He wrote a screenplay for one of the films. Heinlein edited an anthology of other writers' SF short stories.

   He really didn't have a lot to say.

A lot of people had things to say.... of very little value, except to entertain certain segments of earth's very diverse population. 
All of those published works and if this was the most profound quote available from him, he clearly lacked wisdom and had nothing to read I could possibly care about.

Take that author of sorcerers and faraway castles, please.  I did not read a single page and never will.   Reality is of far greater interest to me and the quote of Heinlein you posted was very far from reality.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on December 19, 2023, 12:08:19 am
A lot of people had things to say.... of very little value, except to entertain certain segments of earth's very diverse population. 
All of those published works and if this was the most profound quote available from him, he clearly lacked wisdom and had nothing to read I could possibly care about.

Take that author of sorcerers and faraway castles, please.  I did not read a single page and never will.   Reality is of far greater interest to me and the quote of Heinlein you posted was very far from reality.


@ChemEngrMBA

I actually feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on December 19, 2023, 12:24:17 am
    @sneakypete

(https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/818403-Dana-Gould-Quote-Love-means-never-having-to-say-you-re-sorry.jpg)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 21, 2023, 07:01:54 am
"The NEA represents, and presumably reflects the mentality of, the people who are delivering -- inflicting? -- public education.  That is as frightening, in its way, as any foreign threat." --George Will

NEA is the National Education (sic) Association.  It is one of the two largest unions in the United States and donates millions of dollars to the Democrat Party, which it owns.  A few percentage points of its donations go to Republicans who promise to increase funding for today's version of "education," including transsexual grooming and socialist brainwashing.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 21, 2023, 04:36:56 pm
When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but with creatures bristling with prejudice and motivated by pride and vanity. - Dale Carnegie
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on December 30, 2023, 08:26:57 pm
“The Christian religion is above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed    in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity.” – John Adams

“The general principles on which the Fathers achieved independence were the only principles in which that beautiful assembly of young gentlemen could unite …the general principles of Christianity.” – John Adams

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 30, 2023, 10:55:53 pm

It's a cookbook!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 30, 2023, 11:00:02 pm
A lot of people had things to say.... of very little value, except to entertain certain segments of earth's very diverse population. 
All of those published works and if this was the most profound quote available from him, he clearly lacked wisdom and had nothing to read I could possibly care about.

Take that author of sorcerers and faraway castles, please.  I did not read a single page and never will.   Reality is of far greater interest to me and the quote of Heinlein you posted was very far from reality.

Pity. Many lessons are told as parables, often using fiction as the delivery device.

There are few ills and fewer solutions not mentioned in fiction somewhere, and the devices of today were often the dreams of writers of fantasy, as will be the devices commonplace in the future.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 07, 2024, 05:36:30 pm
Note to atheists:

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 16, 2024, 11:57:22 pm
"Experts and the educated elite have...replaced what worked with
what sounded good. Society was far more civilized before they took
over our schools, prisons, welfare programs, police departments
and courts. It's high time we ran these people out of our lives
and went back to common sense." --Walter Williams


Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 17, 2024, 03:05:44 pm
"Experts and the educated elite have...replaced what worked with
what sounded good. Society was far more civilized before they took
over our schools, prisons, welfare programs, police departments
and courts. It's high time we ran these people out of our lives
and went back to common sense." --Walter Williams


@ChemEngrMBA

The problem with that is "common sense" ain't  so common anymore.

Assuming,of course,that politicians who have to "cut deals" to get legislation passed that will get them re-elected,even based their voting decisions on common sense to start with.

"Professional Politcs" is a VERY "hard-ball game".
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 17, 2024, 05:31:18 pm
@ChemEngrMBA

The problem with that is "common sense" ain't  so common anymore.

Assuming,of course,that politicians who have to "cut deals" to get legislation passed that will get them re-elected,even based their voting decisions on common sense to start with.

"Professional Politcs" is a VERY "hard-ball game".

goopo
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on January 17, 2024, 05:50:33 pm
What legislation?  They write it AFTER they pass it.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 19, 2024, 08:36:03 pm
"I say unequivocally that the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt!" - Sir Lionel Luckhoo, listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the most successful attorney in history
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 19, 2024, 10:29:59 pm
"I say unequivocally that the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt!" - Sir Lionel Luckhoo, listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the most successful attorney in history

@ChemEngrMBA

Well,if ya can't trust a lawyer to tell the truth,who  CAN you  trust,right?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on January 19, 2024, 10:53:20 pm
@ChemEngrMBA

Well,if ya can't trust a lawyer to tell the truth,who  CAN you  trust,right?

He IS right, and telling the historical truth @sneakypete
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 19, 2024, 11:28:23 pm
He IS right, and telling the historical truth @sneakypete

@roamer_1

Uh,huh.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on January 19, 2024, 11:31:17 pm
@roamer_1

Uh,huh.

@sneakypete

Uh huh. And if you think otherwise, your ignorance of history is showing.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 20, 2024, 11:27:54 am
@sneakypete

Uh huh. And if you think otherwise, your ignorance of history is showing.

@roamer_1

I guess you  still believe in Santa,too?

After all,HE is a historical figure.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on January 20, 2024, 11:42:54 am
@roamer_1

I guess you  still believe in Santa,too?

After all,HE is a historical figure.

@sneakypete
Why yes I do... by a far more ancient name... and he ain't something I mess with.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 20, 2024, 03:21:26 pm
@sneakypete
Why yes I do... by a far more ancient name... and he ain't something I mess with.

@roamer_1

This is America,and you are free to believe anything  you want to believe,as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone else.

Of course,that will probably change if you do what you say you will do and not vote if Trump is the candidate.

You can PROBABLYY hold prayer meetings in the labor camp,comrade.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 20, 2024, 09:35:34 pm
My quotations of Sir Lionel Luckhoo and A. Simon Greenleaf obviously triggered two atheists.
Fortunately I have no idea what they said as both are on my Ignore List for their past insults and ignorance.
If I were insulting and ignorant, why would they want to read what I have to say?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on January 20, 2024, 09:48:12 pm
@roamer_1

This is America,and you are free to believe anything  you want to believe,as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone else.


@sneakypete

It ain't mere belief. It is the evidence of history that convinced me, from the start... History that you are ignorant of.

Quote
Of course,that will probably change if you do what you say you will do and not vote if Trump is the candidate.

You can PROBABLY hold prayer meetings in the labor camp,comrade.

I wonder if that will be like when I was housebound for over a year, and my business destroyed because of Tumpy...

Sounds pretty much the same to me. So hell no, Tumpy will never see a vote from me.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 20, 2024, 11:07:36 pm
@sneakypete

It ain't mere belief. It is the evidence of history that convinced me, from the start... History that you are ignorant of.

I wonder if that will be like when I was housebound for over a year, and my business destroyed because of Tumpy...

Sounds pretty much the same to me. So hell no, Tumpy will never see a vote from me.

@roamer_1

Ahhh,so your business failed,and you are blaming it on Trump because NONE of your decisions and/or the economic climate at that time had ANYTHING to do with  the failure.

Gotcha!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 20, 2024, 11:08:11 pm
Would you go away, Karen and Karen?  Stop following me around, "sniffing my underwear" as Thomas Sowell would say.


Karen (slang)


Karen is a term used as slang typically for a middle-class white woman who is perceived as emotional, petulant and demanding.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on January 20, 2024, 11:14:35 pm
@roamer_1

Ahhh,so your business failed,and you are blaming it on Trump because NONE of your decisions and/or the economic climate at that time had ANYTHING to do with  the failure.

Gotcha!

That's true. He shut it OFF. He did that. He shut down the ports, and restricted interstate shipping. Without that, parts systems ground to a dead stop. No one else did that. That was an administrative decision, entirely federal, using federal authority over ports and ports of entry.

Especially from China because of HIS exclusive foreign policy.

No two ways about it.

He did that, with Fauxi right by his side.

I am but one example among thousands that lost their livelihood, being 'nonessential'.
No way in hell that should be rewarded. Ever.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 20, 2024, 11:22:39 pm
That's true. He shut it OFF. He did that. He shut down the ports, and restricted interstate shipping. Without that, parts systems ground to a dead stop. No one else did that. That was an administrative decision, entirely federal, using federal authority over ports and ports of entry.

Especially from China because of HIS exclusive foreign policy.

No two ways about it.

He did that, with Fauxi right by his side.

I am but one example among thousands that lost their livelihood, being 'nonessential'.
No way in hell that should be rewarded. Ever.

@roamer_1

Thank you for the explanation.

Your anger now makes sense,even if there was a reason or reasons behind it that you wern't/aren't aware  of at that time.

Nothing personal towards you,but I PERSONALLY  find it impossible to  have any sympathy for anyone who was doing business with China,and lost out.

Not only is the Chinese government probably THE most evil government in existence today,but they seem to think they SHOULD be controlling the world world by turning all the other nations into vassal nations of their slave state.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on January 20, 2024, 11:41:38 pm
@roamer_1

Thank you for the explanation.

Your anger now makes sense,even if there was a reason or reasons behind it that you wern't/aren't aware  of at that time.


@sneakypete

No, my anger is not limited to my own loss, and I have not made that the center of my argument, even though it is plain. It is the loss of liberty that is the root. and the destruction of Conservatism, with all you monkeys cheering it on. That's your guy.

Quote
Nothing personal towards you,but I PERSONALLY  find it impossible to  have any sympathy for anyone who was doing business with China,and lost out.

Not only is the Chinese government probably THE most evil government in existence today,but they seem to think they SHOULD be controlling the world world by turning all the other nations into vassal nations of their slave state.

Look, that has to be about the most moronic statement I have ever heard.
I'm a pooter tech. That's what I do. ALL chips are out of China or Taiwan. There is literally NO WAY to fix computers without doing business with China. I work with American companies, and American parts systems, but where do they have to buy from? From the only place to get chips and boards.

And it's the same damn thing for smalls parts and automotive.

So KMA, you and your ordainments. Different story if another option was provided first. Different story if you encourage chip manufacturing in the states first, get em up and running and THEN shut off China... But no, just shut it all OFF.

Dummass. Where do you think the parts are going to come from now?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 20, 2024, 11:54:02 pm
@sneakypete

No, my anger is not limited to my own loss, and I have not made that the center of my argument, even though it is plain. It is the loss of liberty that is the root. and the destruction of Conservatism, with all you monkeys cheering it on. That's your guy.

Look, that has to be about the most moronic statement I have ever heard.
I'm a pooter tech. That's what I do. ALL chips are out of China or Taiwan. There is literally NO WAY to fix computers without doing business with China. I work with American companies, and American parts systems, but where do they have to buy from? From the only place to get chips and boards.

And it's the same damn thing for smalls parts and automotive.

So KMA, you and your ordainments. Different story if another option was provided first. Different story if you encourage chip manufacturing in the states first, get em up and running and THEN shut off China... But no, just shut it all OFF.

Dummass. Where do you think the parts are going to come from now?

@roamer_1

Yeah,YOU were helping to enrich the most dangerous police state in the world,and it's the fault of people like me that YOU are out of work.

Did it ever occur to you to earn your living by working a trade that does NOT benefit the largest police state in the world?

One that is also THE most dangerous police state in the world?

And it's MY fault you are out of work,huh?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on January 20, 2024, 11:59:06 pm
@roamer_1

Yeah,YOU were helping to enrich the most dangerous police state in the world,and it's the fault of people like me that YOU are out of work.


YOU are typing on a Chinese made computer or phone RIGHT NOW, Guaranteed, @sneakypete

Quote
Did it ever occur to you to earn your living by working a trade that does NOT benefit the largest police state in the world?

One that is also THE most dangerous police state in the world?

And it's MY fault you are out of work,huh?

And then who is going to fix your computer? or your phone? Or your car that you are so proud of? Hell even your pickup... I would not have to look very far to find chinesium on your truck.

So don't give me your bullshit. I ain't buying it. Not one bit. Your high horse is short as hell.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 21, 2024, 12:15:13 am
YOU are typing on a Chinese made computer or phone RIGHT NOW, Guaranteed, @sneakypete

@roamer_1

Maybe/probably. I honestly have no idea. It is a refurbished laptop I bought from Amazon for 100 bucks a few years ago.

I know that everybody has an opinion,but MINE is that if you buy something used from a re-sale sorce in the US,it is NOT the same as buying something new made in China.

That's really just splitting hairs to "score point" in an argument,though. Some people who use computers to earn their living maybe/probably have to buy brand new stuff for reasons I don't even suspect

Quote
And then who is going to fix your computer? or your phone? Or your car that you are so proud of? Hell even your pickup... I would not have to look very far to find chinesium on your truck.

I kinda doubt it. One is a 1937 IHC pu,and the other one is a 2008 GMC diesel 3/4 ton 4x4,that I also bought used.

I do confess to buying a new 4 cylinder Toyota Camry a couple of years ago because the price of gas and diesel fuel got so insanely high that I figured something that gets right at 40 MPG would be the way to go. Especially since I was making round trips of about 100 miles  3 times a week to attend a wound clinic and get my bandages changed. Only go once a week now,and my legs are MUCH better. One is 100 percent healed,and the other is almost healed. When you consider that everyone else,including the VA,wanted to amputate my left leg starting in the early 70's,it borders on amazing.

VERY comfortable and economical little car,even though it wasn't cheap to buy. NO automobile or truck is cheap to buy anymore that is new,or even close to new. The Toyota cost me right at 28 grand,which still almost puts me into shock when I think of it. My old 200,000+ mile 4cyl Ranger pu died,and a rebuilt long block would have cost me 2 grand +,with no accessories and I would still have to pay someone to do the work. Plus I needed to ride right "NOW".

Sure am looking forward to no more sponge baths,and soaking in a tub  of hot water for hours.

Quote
So don't give me your bullshit. I ain't buying it. Not one bit. Your high horse is short as hell.

Pretty much what I expected to read. It's  personal for you.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on January 21, 2024, 12:25:15 am
I kinda doubt it. One is a 1937 ICH pu,and the other one is a 2008 GMC diesel 3/4 ton 4x4,that I also bought used.

I do confess to buying a new 4 cylinder Toyota Camry a couple of years ago because the price of gas and diesel fuel got so insanely high that I figured something that gets right at 40 MPG would be the way to go. Especially since I was making round trips of about 100 miles  3 times a week to attend a wound clinic and get my bandages changed. Only go once a week now,and my legs are MUCH better. One is 100 percent healed,and the other is almost healed. When you consider that everyone else,including the VA,wanted to amputate my left leg starting in the early 70's,it borders on amazing.

Sure am looking forward to no more sponge baths,and soaking in a tub  of hot water for hours.

Pretty much what I expected to read. It's  personal for you.

Doesn't matter if you bought it used @sneakypete - If it's busted and needs a part, where the hell do you expect me to get that part? During covid and for 2 years after there just wasn't a part. You can throw the damn thing away for want of a ram chip.

And I am like the guy you bought it from. I refurbish old machines to resell, and fix broken ones. So don't be braggin on the used part - That was me, or someone like me.

And yes, that 08 diesel pickup is chocked full of chinesium. You have to go back to the eighties to find all American... And even if you do, if it breaks... again, where is the part going to come from? I can tell you - CHINA.

Of course it's personal to me... The biggest dumass move ever recorded in all of history effected everyone personally. Especially small businesses of every stripe that were not designated as 'essential'

And you want to do it again. *SMH*
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 21, 2024, 12:28:11 am
Don't demean a person's profession, that's just cold dude.

@Jack Russell

I am NOT demeaning his profession.

He is NOT a slave,and  there was/is no one forcing him to have the Chinese as a daily business partner.

There was also no reason mentioned why he couldn't have made his living doing other things. He is obviously NOT stupid or lazy,so he DID have those options,and just made a choice to continue to do business with China on a daily basis. That is on HIM,not ME.

Yes,like everybody else in today's America,I am occasionally forced to buy slave labor crap from China,but IF I can find the same type of item at another store that WASN'T made in China,I will buy it even if it costs me twice as much.

BTW,I do NOT find fault with people who buy  the cheapest stuff they can find because it is all they can afford. NOBODY can buy anything if they don't have the money to buy it. I am just fortunate enough to be in a situation where pretty much anything I really want or need is affordable for me.

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 21, 2024, 07:10:12 pm
"There are various conventional explanations for this week's election results; but unmentioned has been the Democrats' failure to condemn loudly and publicly the ravings of the lunatic Left." – Victor Davis Hanson
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 22, 2024, 07:40:12 pm
We fight not for glory, nor for riches, nor for honour, but only and alone for Freedom, which no good man lays down but with his life. --Declaration of Arbroath, Scotland, 1320
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 26, 2024, 02:55:21 am
"After years of being exposed to the American media in all its forms, I've concluded that conservatives resent being lied to nearly as much as liberals hate being told the truth." --columnist Burt Prelutsky
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 31, 2024, 01:26:18 pm
Leftists and atheists choose to be neither right nor kind.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 31, 2024, 03:03:14 pm
Leftists and atheists choose to be neither right nor kind.

@ChemEngrMBA

Are you EVER going to  get  tired of trolling for new groupies for your commune,comrade?

This  forum is about politics,NOT religion,so take your Jim Jones recruitment efforts somewhere else.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Hoodat on January 31, 2024, 03:29:30 pm
This  forum is about politics,NOT religion,

@sneakypete

His comment referenced atheists.  Are you saying that 'atheism' is a religion?  Just want to be clear on what the rules are.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 31, 2024, 04:18:43 pm
I kind of liked it.  Maybe you are the one with the issue?

@Jack Russell

Cult members always make that claim.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 31, 2024, 04:21:43 pm
@sneakypete

His comment referenced atheists.  Are you saying that 'atheism' is a religion?  Just want to be clear on what the rules are.  Thanks.

@Hoodat

Hard-core Atheism is the Ying to the Bible Thumpers Yang.

I don't give a rabid rats ass if someone wants to worship rabid rats asses. I just want you to take your beliefs to  a board dedicated to that  sort of thing. I got a lifetime supply of that crap when I was a child.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 31, 2024, 05:50:49 pm
Train up a child in the way he should go, And even when he is old he will not depart from it. Proverbs 22:6

@Jack Russell

An obvious lie,or people like me wouldn't exist.

So how about we just stop posting religious as well as anti-religious posts?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on January 31, 2024, 06:02:28 pm
“Never write if you can speak; never speak if you can nod; never nod if you can wink."

- former Boston political boss, Martin Lomasney
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on January 31, 2024, 06:33:08 pm
I kind of liked it.  Maybe you are the one with the issue?

Is he ever!

In the first place, religion has profound political implications.  Take Hamas Muslims as Exhibit #1.
Atheists are Exhibit #2. 
Topics in TBR include "Research, Science, Sports" and many other interests which have little or nothing to do with politics.


Little Pete is such a stalker, harasser and whiner that he has no business being a "moderator" here.
Now for my newest Thought For The Day by a friend of atheists everywhere, politics writ very, very large:


Socialism is precisely the religion which; must overwhelm Christianity.   … In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society. – Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937, Marxist, founder of the Italian Communist Party)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 31, 2024, 06:40:13 pm

Little Pete is such a stalker, harasser and whiner that he has no business being a "moderator" here.


@ChemEngrMBA

There are no Moderators on TBR named "Pete."  j/s
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on January 31, 2024, 07:42:19 pm
Religion is man's attempt to re-appropriate God's Word to man's purpose.

 ////00000////

I didn't want to have to do this, but ...

I have found a concise way to describe thousands of years of religious beliefs.

My Messiah can kick your Messiah's ass,
anywhere, anytime, infidels.


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9Y1pZmeMYDc/Tr9XEHOnSbI/AAAAAAAAB8o/SfWWp0PsJHE/s1600/rambo-jesus.jpg)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: mystery-ak on January 31, 2024, 08:42:58 pm
This is why I don't have a Religious Cat...there will always be someone who is offended..either deal with it or stop posting on this thread.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on January 31, 2024, 10:49:42 pm
Is he ever!

In the first place, religion has profound political implications.  Take Hamas Muslims as Exhibit #1.
Atheists are Exhibit #2. 
Topics in TBR include "Research, Science, Sports" and many other interests which have little or nothing to do with politics.


Little Pete is such a stalker, harasser and whiner that he has no business being a "moderator" here.
Now for my newest Thought For The Day by a friend of atheists everywhere, politics writ very, very large:


Socialism is precisely the religion which; must overwhelm Christianity.   … In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society. – Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937, Marxist, founder of the Italian Communist Party)


@ChemEngrMBA


Blah,blah,meaningless blah.

Ok,Bubba,why are you so defensive? Do I detect a little doubt is powering that over-reaction?

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 31, 2024, 11:48:04 pm
Please stop arguing about religion on Nancy's Forum.  She asked nicely up thread, but I am not as nice.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 03, 2024, 02:07:49 pm
"(British psychologists did an experiment) where participants were given stories about cruelty or violence, which, not surprisingly dampened their moods... but those who read stories about acts of kindness reported a greater belief in the overall goodness of humanity.... hearing about the kindness of others makes you happier and protects you against what some researchers call mean world syndrome, an anxious outlook caused by an overestimation of the world's dangers." - Reader's Digest, Feb 2024, page 38



Mean World Syndrome is a phrase I just read last night for the first time. 

It describes those in a dreadful panic over *climate change*, atheism, and man-hating *feminism*.


Compare these state-of-the-art scientific findings with Philippians 4:8, from 2000 years ago:


'...whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."


For several years, I have been passing out these slips I print out twenty at a time to store clerks helping me, and to occasional strangers I meet in public places:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: LMAO on February 04, 2024, 03:15:00 am
"After years of being exposed to the American media in all its forms, I've concluded that conservatives resent being lied to nearly as much as liberals hate being told the truth." --columnist Burt Prelutsky

Yup!!
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on February 04, 2024, 02:28:03 pm
Many "conservatives" enjoy being lied to. Otherwise, they would stop listening to the lies.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: sneakypete on February 04, 2024, 02:51:24 pm
Many "conservatives" enjoy being lied to. Otherwise, they would stop listening to the lies.

@Bigun

Human nature decrees that we would rather hear "comfortable lies" than "uncomfortable truths"

Don't believe it?

Ask ANYBODY that has ran for election to public office.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 10, 2024, 08:51:40 pm
Simon Greenleaf – professor of law at Harvard in the 1800s
His three-volume work, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, has been considered by The Supreme Court to be the greatest single authority on legal evidence.

He said, “If the evidence for the resurrection was set before any unbiased courtroom in the world it would be judged to be an historical fact - Jesus Christ rose from the dead.”
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Hoodat on February 11, 2024, 01:05:12 am
The greater miracle would be finding that unbiased courtroom.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 18, 2024, 12:55:29 am
"To rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship." - Amazon.com's description of The Liberal Mind - Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle Rossiter, MD
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 21, 2024, 12:42:02 pm
"It is not the function of the government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error." --Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson (1892-1954)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 24, 2024, 06:06:43 pm
"Consider why shrinking government is moral. The more the federal government provides for people, the more it deprives them not only of their dignity, but of one of the most sacred rights.’ - Thomas Jefferson
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on February 25, 2024, 02:11:19 am
"Consider why shrinking government is moral. The more the federal government provides for people, the more it deprives them not only of their dignity, but of one of the most sacred rights.’ - Thomas Jefferson


    Trump did more to outreach Federal Government extensions and shut down our Constitutional
 Rights than any President, absent Lincoln, just saying.

    *Surpassing GWB's Patriot  Act.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 25, 2024, 06:11:42 pm
Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words. - Proverbs 23:9

(This is why it is futile to respond to Leftists supporting abortion, millions of illegals, Hamas terrorists, transgender insanity, and Biden.)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 27, 2024, 03:17:52 am
"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 28, 2024, 06:28:49 pm
“Men became scientific because they expected law in nature and they expected law in nature because they believed in a lawgiver.’ It was this conviction that led Francis Bacon (1561–1626), regarded by many as the father of modern science, to teach that God has provided us with two books – the book of Nature and the Bible .” – Professor John Lennox, Oxford University, the motto of which is "The Lord is My Light"
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on February 29, 2024, 05:53:18 pm
This country has shed more blood for other people than all the other countries in the world combined, and I'm tired of people feeling like they've got to apologize for America.  - Fred Thompson (1942-2015)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: corbe on March 01, 2024, 02:57:42 am
(https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/1600x900/5856796-Zoroaster-Quote-A-reflective-contented-mind-is-the-best-possession.jpg)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 03, 2024, 12:19:25 am
"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian." --George Washington
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: LMAO on March 03, 2024, 12:20:51 am
Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words. - Proverbs 23:9

(This is why it is futile to respond to Leftists supporting abortion, millions of illegals, Hamas terrorists, transgender insanity, and Biden.)



@ChemEngrMBA

 :yowsa: :amen:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 03, 2024, 07:28:01 pm
The one who walks with the crowd will usually get no further than the crowd.  The one who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. - Albert Einstein
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 04, 2024, 04:40:29 pm
“In ten years [I.E. 1980] all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of the coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.”

 “By 1985, enough millions will have died to reduce the earth’s population to some acceptable level, like 1.5 billion people.” (Eco-Catastrophe!, 1969), Paul R. Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist, *scientist*
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 05, 2024, 10:51:36 pm
“I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” – Paul Ehrlich in 1970   

“In the 1970s and 1980s, hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now.” - The Population Bomb (1968), by Paul R Ehrlich, *scientist*
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 06, 2024, 03:58:12 pm
"A fool contributes nothing worth hearing and takes offense at everything." - Aristotle
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 07, 2024, 08:01:05 pm
"The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity.
This situation, where scientific men rally to the defence of a doctrine they are unable to define scientifically, much less demonstrate with scientific rigour, attempting to maintain its credit with the public by the suppression of criticism and the elimination of difficulties, is abnormal and undesirable in science." - Professor W. R. Thompson, Introduction to the 1956 reprint of 'The Origin of Species: The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life'
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 08, 2024, 08:15:20 am
"The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity.
This situation, where scientific men rally to the defence of a doctrine they are unable to define scientifically, much less demonstrate with scientific rigour, attempting to maintain its credit with the public by the suppression of criticism and the elimination of difficulties, is abnormal and undesirable in science." - Professor W. R. Thompson, Introduction to the 1956 reprint of 'The Origin of Species: The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life'

My end of the affair with Darwinism, especially evolution, was the increased knowledge of paleontology, with myriad quantum leaps in organismic complexity achieved through the almost Lamarkian coalescence of multiple major advances simultaneously in some hypothetical ancestral stock. As a matter of probability, the odds are staggeringly large against even one such transition, yet we were to believe that numerous such transitions had been made on the lengthy journey from coacervate molecules to Homo sapiens.

While, admittedly, transitional forms would be theoretically of short duration and scarce in the fossil record, they continue to be absent, dependent on such things as neotenic tunicate larvae on the way to amphioxis.

But Darwinism had the tremendous benefit as a mindset, allowing for the classification of some forms, even of our own species, as "primitive", evidenced by differing levels of technological development which contributed* to a lack of time to spend pondering in omphaloskepsis vs grubbing up the resources necessary for survival, and as such, something to be exploited more as a resource than treated as human, and whose unrecognized natural resources were fair game.

This played into the Europe of the Enlightenment, being the only thing needed to justify an era of colonialism to any who might have had qualms about looting resources, but even better, giving less than human status to any group justified in the minds of many acts which were every bit as savage as the behaviour of those who were dubbed thus,  mindset which persists to this day among any groups who consider themselves superior to others without just cause. I must note that those who conduct themselves in this way consider themselves superior through intellectual, economic, or even genetic circumstance, and as such, all others are lesser, and fair to subject to any and all depredations. (Consider those "elites" who would have us all eat bugs or artificial protein while they eat real meat.)

(*This is a chicken/egg problem. Lack of technology fosters a lack of time and energy to develop technology; survival comes first. Without abundant resources, time is spent gathering needed resources. With technology, resources can be multiplied, granting additional time to develop more technology, but the time to develop technology simply may not be available for small groups, thus their level of technological development remains low.) 
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 08, 2024, 06:10:43 pm
"It was the marvelous fit of organisms to the environment, much more than the great diversity of forms, that was the chief evidence of a Supreme Designer." -  (Richard Lewontin, Scientific American, September 1978, p. 213)

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 10, 2024, 04:56:36 pm
"THE TRUTH IS that climate policies hurt the poor everywhere, even in countries like the United States, because higher energy prices have a disproportionate negative impact on the poor. " - Bjorn Lomborg, False Alarm, page 143
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 12, 2024, 02:25:03 am
Alarm rather than genuine scientific curiosity, it appears, is essential to maintaining funding. And only the most senior scientists today can stand up against this alarmist gale, and defy the iron triangle of climate scientists, advocates and policymakers. - Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT (Wall Street Journal, April 12, 2006)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 12, 2024, 06:21:51 pm


"We must hate," Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin exhorted his followers. "Hatred is the essence of communism."


"We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us." - Vladimir Lenin, atheist, Leftist


["Democrat"  substitutes today for "Vladimir Lenin"]
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 13, 2024, 01:49:01 pm
When Hitler fired Chief of General Staff General Franz Halder he told him, "We need National Socialist ardor now, not professional ability."
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 13, 2024, 11:00:00 pm
The fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives is: Conservatives believe man was created in God’s image; liberals believe they are God. All their other behavioral tics proceed from this one irreducible minimum.


… They can lie, with no higher power to constrain them, because they are gods. - Treason, by Ann Coulter, page 292
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 13, 2024, 11:40:02 pm
The fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives is: Conservatives believe man was created in God’s image; liberals believe they are God. All their other behavioral tics proceed from this one irreducible minimum.


… They can lie, with no higher power to constrain them, because they are gods. - Treason, by Ann Coulter, page 292


Too bad Ann turned out to be a kook.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 17, 2024, 12:39:11 pm
America is like a healthy body, and its resistance is threefold:  its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life.  If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on March 17, 2024, 01:20:34 pm
Quote
An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes.

Sun Tzu
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 18, 2024, 01:09:02 pm
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome ..." - Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol II, pages 248-250 London)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 20, 2024, 12:59:43 am
"A recent poll of the members of the National Academy of Sciences, published in Scientific American, indicated that more than ninety percent are atheists. " - Uncommon Dissent - Intellectuals Who Find Darwinism Unconvincing (page 124)


In contrast, 85% of Nobel Laureates are Christians and Jews.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 21, 2024, 02:03:23 am
…descriptions of the world are heavily influenced by (atheist) scientism.

… philosopher Thomas Nagel identifies one reason for this as “the fear of religion itself.”… “It’s that I hope there is no God. I don’t want there to be a God….”  - (Ibid, page 145)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: LMAO on March 21, 2024, 03:36:36 pm
America is like a healthy body, and its resistance is threefold:  its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life.  If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin

Yup
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 22, 2024, 08:31:17 pm
Allan Sandage, widely regarded as the father of modern astronomy, discoverer of quasars:

“I find it quite improbable that order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something rather than nothing.”
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 23, 2024, 06:55:49 pm
I have a lot of thyme on my hands.....



Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 24, 2024, 02:56:32 am
I have a lot of thyme on my hands.....
One of the bottles must be leaking.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 24, 2024, 05:28:18 pm
"We now face Darwinian thought police… insidious as any secret police at ensuring conformity and rooting out dissent.
Gallup poll after Gallup poll indicates that only about ten percent of the U.S. population accepts Darwinian evolution." -
Uncommon Dissent - Intellectuals Who Find Darwinism Unconvincing, Introduction, page xxxiv, by William A. Dembski
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 26, 2024, 08:45:42 pm
America is like a healthy body, and its resistance is threefold:  its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life.  If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin

I have been advised that this quote is inaccurate.  Stalin never said this, plausible as it appears.  My apologies for the honest mistake.  I never intend to mislead.  I am a patriotic conservative, as most conservatives are.

Now please this:


"Two-thirds to three-quarters of next year's $2 trillion federal budget represents legalized plunder, where Congress makes it possible for one American to live at the expense of another." --Walter Williams

Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on March 27, 2024, 10:46:06 pm
If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently, it will be believed. - Adolph Hitler  (Climate change)


It is proof of a bad cause when it is applauded by the mob. - Seneca

(Climate change, open border)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 04, 2024, 03:40:05 am
It's okay to be white.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 07, 2024, 05:13:32 pm
In the APS (American Physical Society) it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period.' - Ivar Giaever, Nobel Laureate, Physics

"Is climate change pseudoscience?  Absolutely." - Ivar Giaever
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 08, 2024, 06:04:05 pm
SCIENCE REQUIRES FAITH
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: berdie on April 08, 2024, 07:34:12 pm
I would have to say that is the truth but would add...faith in the available information and the understanding that it could change as more data is received.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 09, 2024, 04:59:05 pm
I would have to say that is the truth but would add...faith in the available information and the understanding that it could change as more data is received.

"More data" has been "received" for many decades on the pseudoscience of Darwinism, and yet the National Education Association and teachers' unions and professors continue to swear by it as "fact, fact, fact."    That could not be possible when thousands of scientists and scholars have written hundreds of papers and books showing convincing scientific evidence that Darwin was dead wrong. 

The same is true of the climate change fraud.  "Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - Nobel Laureate Milton Friedman who was professor at University of Illinois
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Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 15, 2024, 01:15:42 pm
"A fool says nothing worth hearing and takes offense at everything."  - Aristotle
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 18, 2024, 06:29:15 pm
"Morality is the necessary spring of popular government.... Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without Christianity." - - George Washington
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 21, 2024, 02:49:43 am
The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive.  - Thomas Sowell
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 23, 2024, 06:51:21 pm
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 23, 2024, 07:32:43 pm
That appears to be a blank post.  I looked at the code and it's unclear what you are posting.  Franklin quote?
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: roamer_1 on April 23, 2024, 07:41:13 pm
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: Bigun on April 23, 2024, 07:53:37 pm
“Nothing is more certain than that a general profligacy and corruption of manners make a people ripe for destruction. A good form of government may hold the rotten materials together for some time, but beyond a certain pitch, even the best constitution will be ineffectual, and slavery must ensue.”

John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men, 1776
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 24, 2024, 10:40:51 pm
"Evolution is baseless and quite incredible."—*John Ambrose Fleming, President, British Association for Advancement of Science, in "The Unleashing of Evolutionary Thought."
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 26, 2024, 05:12:16 pm
"When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice, but when a wicked man rules, the people groan." - Proverbs 29:2

Today, America groans as never before in many decades.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 28, 2024, 01:42:57 am
"What the herd hates most is the one who thinks differently; it is not so much the opinion itself, but the audacity of wanting to think for themselves, something that they do not know how to do." — Arthur Schopenhauer

Thinking for themselves is something Leftists cannot do.  They follow the loud, screeching herd, applauding evil and insanity.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on April 29, 2024, 11:49:09 pm
"It is more blessed to give than to receive." - The Holy Bible

I can tell you from personal experience that giving has richly blessed me more than the family members to whom I gave.

All of us are smarter than any of us, so please write your best Giving Story right here for all to see and ponder, maybe duplicate, for their benefit and others' as well.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 01, 2024, 11:49:54 pm
"It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor." --George Washington
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 04, 2024, 11:02:36 pm
"It is not the duty of science to defend the theory of evolution, and stick by it to the bitter end—no matter which illogical and unsupported conclusions it offers. On the contrary, it is expected that scientists recognize the patently obvious impossibility of Darwin's pronouncements and predictions . . Let's cut the umbilical cord that tied us down to Darwin for such a long time. It is choking us and holding us back."—I.L. Cohen, Darwin Was Wrong: A Study in Probabilities (1985)
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 05, 2024, 05:13:38 pm
The widespread support of Hamas terrorists by people living in America is evil, despicable and cowardly. - John Phillip Jaeger
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: libertybele on May 05, 2024, 05:30:49 pm
The widespread support of Hamas terrorists by people living in America is evil, despicable and cowardly. - John Phillip Jaeger

Those that support Hamas inside America, aren't necessarily Americans but ILLEGALS who have invaded this country with no loyalty towards America or have been granted legal status that refuse to assimilate.

Those that support Hamas want to see the downfall of our Republic, "Death to America" is want they are working towards.

The uprising on campuses throughout our country I believe is just a test to see what they can get away with and how easily they can take this country over.
Title: Re: Thought For The Day by John Jaeger, MBA
Post by: ChemEngrMBA on May 09, 2024, 05:26:33 pm
"If the television craze continues with the present level of programs, we are destined to have a nation of morons." — Daniel Marsh in 1950

We're there.  The media have moronized scores of millions with gaslighting and panic.