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Title: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: mystery-ak on December 20, 2013, 04:07:34 pm
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/12/20/utter-chaos-white-house-exempts-millions-from-obamacares-insurance-mandate-unaffordable-exchanges/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/12/20/utter-chaos-white-house-exempts-millions-from-obamacares-insurance-mandate-unaffordable-exchanges/)


12/20/2013 @ 6:20AM

Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Avik Roy

It’s hard to come up with new ways to describe the Obama administration’s improvisational approach to the Affordable Care Act’s troubled health insurance exchanges. But last night, the White House made its most consequential announcement yet. The administration will grant a “hardship exemption” from the law’s individual mandate, requiring the purchase of health insurance, to anyone who has had their prior coverage canceled and who “believes” that Obamacare’s offerings “are unaffordable.” These exemptions will substantially alter the architecture of the law’s insurance marketplaces. Insurers are at their wits’ end, trying to make sense of what to do next.

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Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: GourmetDan on December 20, 2013, 04:11:54 pm

It's not an 'improvisational' approach, it's unconstitutional.

Not that Congress or the Supreme Court cares any more...


Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: Bigun on December 20, 2013, 04:13:42 pm
It's not an 'improvisational' approach, it's unconstitutional.

Not that Congress or the Supreme Court cares any more...

Yes indeed!
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: Scottftlc on December 20, 2013, 04:18:51 pm
What is so ironic is that the Insurance industry has played along with Obama's fascism, not understanding that, or more probably simply not believing, that the fascists all along were simply attempting to destroy them and needed the industry to play along for awhile in their own destruction.  The method is the same as was used by fascist Hitler Germany with the Jewish population...and it worked there too.

The insurance industry has a hand in their own destruction by playing along with fascists...out of greed or out of fear or out of disbelief.  They will be used by the fascists then destroyed and discarded once power has been truly consolidated.  They need to wake up and practice civil disobedience against Obamacare...refuse to participate now...if it isn't already too late for them.

I wonder who is next for the fascists after the insurance industry...someone is always next with these people.
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: Bigun on December 20, 2013, 04:28:17 pm
What is so ironic is that the Insurance industry has played along with Obama's fascism, not understanding that, or more probably simply not believing, that the fascists all along were simply attempting to destroy them and needed the industry to play along for awhile in their own destruction.  The method is the same as was used by fascist Hitler Germany with the Jewish population...and it worked there too.

The insurance industry has a hand in their own destruction by playing along with fascists...out of greed or out of fear or out of disbelief.  They will be used by the fascists then destroyed and discarded once power has been truly consolidated.  They need to wake up and practice civil disobedience against Obamacare...refuse to participate now...if it isn't already too late for them.

I wonder who is next for the fascists after the insurance industry...someone is always next with these people.

Jumping into a pit of vipers expecting not to get bitten is just plain STUPID yet here we have it!
 
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: rangerrebew on December 20, 2013, 04:52:23 pm
It's not an 'improvisational' approach, it's unconstitutional.

Not that Congress or the Supreme Court cares any more...

Don't worry, Harry Reid and Nazi Pelosi will combine forces to correct this mess for the sake of America. :doa:
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: mountaineer on December 20, 2013, 05:10:14 pm
Watching the executive branch singlehandedly repeal, revise, amend and otherwise ignore laws as they were enacted - while Congress does nothing - is just a smidge disturbing. Today healthcare, tomorrow ... (fill in the blank).
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: Rapunzel on December 20, 2013, 07:44:21 pm
Watching the executive branch singlehandedly repeal, revise, amend and otherwise ignore laws as they were enacted - while Congress does nothing - is just a smidge disturbing. Today healthcare, tomorrow ... (fill in the blank).

Yep and look at the so-called faux Republicans who swore in 2008 this could NEVER happen.
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: Oceander on December 21, 2013, 12:45:44 am
What is so ironic is that the Insurance industry has played along with Obama's fascism, not understanding that, or more probably simply not believing, that the fascists all along were simply attempting to destroy them and needed the industry to play along for awhile in their own destruction.  The method is the same as was used by fascist Hitler Germany with the Jewish population...and it worked there too.

The insurance industry has a hand in their own destruction by playing along with fascists...out of greed or out of fear or out of disbelief.  They will be used by the fascists then destroyed and discarded once power has been truly consolidated.  They need to wake up and practice civil disobedience against Obamacare...refuse to participate now...if it isn't already too late for them.

I wonder who is next for the fascists after the insurance industry...someone is always next with these people.

So long as a sufficient number of high-level insurance company executives legitimately believe that they'll find themselves high-paying positions in the government, they could care less whether the government destroys their companies. 
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: Bigun on December 21, 2013, 12:48:51 am
It is truly unfortunate but the fact is that the good old USA has now been degraded to banana republic status!
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: Rapunzel on December 21, 2013, 01:32:39 am
another clause in the OCare bill - money to bail out insurance companies - so another GM, TARP, etc....
Title: Re: Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges
Post by: mountaineer on December 21, 2013, 02:30:00 am
This seems appropriate:
Quote
HATFIELD, Mass. — Massachusetts state police say they've stopped a car carrying 1,250 packets of heroin stamped "Obamacare" and "Kurt Cobain" and arrested the four people inside it.

Police say a trooper was making a traffic stop in Northampton when another car passed and he noticed several violations. He stopped the car a short time later in nearby Hatfield and found the driver wasn't licensed to drive it. A state police dog found the bags of heroin.

The four arrested people have been charged with heroin trafficking.

State police Lt. Daniel Richard says it's not unusual for heroin to be stamped with numbers, words or symbols to identify who's selling it. But he says the "Obamacare" stamp is one he hadn't heard of.
Boston Herald (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/12/mass_police_find_heroin_stamped_with_obamacare)
 :laugh: