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Exclusive Content => Editorials => Topic started by: LateForLunch on October 31, 2016, 04:27:46 pm
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You can warble and croon
A Broadway Show tune
You can twirl in a circle
And bark at the moon
You can call darkness light
Or swear wrong is right
You can walk a tight wire
With your hair set on fire
You can curse like the Devil
Or be cool, on the level!
You don't need to explain
If you don't swat a fly
You can gladly refrain
You don't need to say why
There's nothing at stake
If the leaves don't get raked
Forget someone's name?
Nobody will blame!
There's much room for error
It's your cross - you're the bearer
Do what you like
Lightening won't strike
You know what you know
It's still on with the show!
Do what you like
Take a cruise, take a hike
Take a vacation from making good sense
Spit in the eye of Micheal R. Pence
Fall off the wagon and take a long drink
Don't need to care what others will think
Do anything that scratches your itch
But know a vote not to Trump
Is a vote for the Bitch.
Burma Shave.
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lowlife
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If a vote not for Trump
is a vote for the bitch
you have only yourselves to blame
you dug your own ditch
Ask us not for our help
you are all on your own
we left you and your party
the consequences you've sown.
We warned and we pleaded
our votes it was said, not needed
so go your own way we bid you goodbye
and left you and your party to writhe and die
We really do not care
as this contest is set
liberty we esteem
Trump, the greater threat
For Hildabeast we know
Alinsky she often tugs
but the threats of death
come from Trump's thugs
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Sad that the p-word is blocked but the b-word is not
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Funny, I see Democrats claiming someone not voting for Hillary is de facto voting for Trump.
So if I didn't vote for Trump, I'm voting for Hillary.
And if I didn't vote for Hillary, I'm voting for Trump.
So I am the most powerful voter alive, my vote legally counts as two votes. Woo hoo.
Now back to reality. Seeing someone resort to a false dichotomy argument is actually a textbook sign of manipulation and/or propaganda. It usually means they don't have a better case to make so they have to resort to trying to manipulate or threaten.
If someone tries to sell you something using that manipulation technique, that's a good sign to walk away from what they are selling.
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Same old failed logic fallacy of false dichotomy. There are more than two choices on the ballot.
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Wow. One lame insult and one lame poem from Geronl and Invar respectively. Pretty sad boys! 'Care to try again or are you late for the Hillary Clinton rally?
"If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice." Rush
Concerning the silly assertion that there are more than two choices. There are only two choices that can win. I suppose that someone will now try to refute that as well.
A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates.
There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.
Trump gets a lot of criticism from so many hammer-heads because he is "capricious, unpredictable" - yet these same angry critics insist in the same breath that Trump's actions as president can be predicted with absolute certainty. Help me out - WHICH IS IT???? Is Trump so predictable that his behavior can be foreseen with absolute precision or not !? ! If not, then there is at least some chance that he may do something that cannot be predicted such as make better choices than Hill-O-Lies ? WHICH IS IT !?! Pick a position and stay with it for at least one post!
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Wow. One lame insult and one lame poem. Pretty sad boys! 'Care to try again or are you late for the Hillary Clinton rally?
"If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice." Rush
We have chosen to decide, and we have made a choice, and that is to reject the false dichotomy between Clinton and Trump. They are the same other than for meaningless details. The choice between NYC big government liberal 1 and NYC big government liberal 2 is no choice whatsoever. We reject your falsehood and make our own choices. If not enough of our fellow voters have the good sense to see as we do, that is regrettable but it is a fact of life in democracies; sometimes your side doesn't win.
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'Care to try again?
not enough padded walls on the planet to fix that issue.
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"If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice." Rush
I have made a choice, just not from the two corrupt liberals.
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"If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice." Rush
Sayeth the pimp for the lifelong NYC liberal Democrat who supported, funded and publicly praised Hillary's tenures of offices, and supported, funded and campaigned for an overt Communist for NYC mayor less than 3 years ago who this year is running with an 'R' after his name - continuing to war on actual Conservatives because they will not kiss his ring.
There are only two choices that can win. I suppose that someone will now try to refute that as well.
You chose a trojan stalking horse - so you chose to lose - no matter who *wins*.
A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates.
And that right there is the imbecillic thinking that got this nation to this point of rejecting liberty for statism, whether Hilary's statist Maoism, or Trump's fascist Nationalist populism - both bastard children of Alinsky and Marx.
There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.
I assert Trump is the greater clear and present danger to my liberties, given his punitive rhetoric and the death threats from his mob of thugs pretending to be patriots.
Pick a position and stay with it for at least one post!
We have… throughout this cycle.
Trump does not get our vote.
And it drives you people batshiite crazy and turns you people into fits of incoherent rage as you strive against the wind.
We're not voting for either evil creature you insist is the only choice we have to make.
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If not voting Trump is wrong,
I don't want to be Reich.
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Concerning the silly assertion that there are more than two choices. There are only two choices that can win. I suppose that someone will now try to refute that as well.
Yes, I will refute that. Simply look at our history of elections. Based on our electoral history, there is an 8% chance neither major party candidate reaches the 270 electoral votes and the election then goes to the House to decide. If you then add into this the history of third party or non affiliated candidates coming up and overtaking the existing party structure, those odds (based on electoral history) go up to around 12%. Yes, it is a stretch, but it also is possible.
A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates.
That's all anyone has really is their 'ideals' (funny how that is now looked at as a negative). If you don't vote your ideals and who you think best represents those ideals, then you are doing nothing more than playing a game. That is the exact reason we are in this Idiocracy-lite situation now. People continuing to reject more and more of their ideals until we are left with the crap sandwich in front of us. I would rather stand on my ideals than accept this joke of a game being thrust upon us. I'll stand for what's right, even if I am standing alone.
There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.
Trump gets a lot of criticism from so many hammer-heads because he is "capricious, unpredictable" - yet these same angry critics insist in the same breath that Trump's actions as president can be predicted with absolute certainty. Help me out - WHICH IS IT???? Is Trump so predictable that his behavior can be foreseen with absolute precision or not !? ! If not, then there is at least some chance that he may do something that cannot be predicted such as make better choices than Hill-O-Lies ? WHICH IS IT !?! Pick a position and stay with it for at least one post!
Actually, the criticism of Trump is that he is a liar, BS artist, corrupt cronyist whose entire empire is built on the very things Conservatives should reject; cronyism, bailouts, debt, corruption, rejection of private property rights, etc.. the list can go on for a mile. Nothing in his history supports the rhetoric he is using now. Without evidence, his words are nothing more than expelling CO2.
If you want to bring up who is worse, him or Hillary, I'll submit they are just two sides of the same coin. For every politician being bought for political favors, there is someone doing the buying. The political class isn't just the politicians, it is those who buy them off- something Trump was/is the king at. One example for you, in New York, he started an anti-gambling PAC. Not because he didn't believe in gambling, but because he wanted to use politicians to FORCE New York to not allow competing casinos in to help give him a monopoly for his New Jersey casinos (aka, eliminate competition coming from New York). That is not free market conservatism in the least. That is cronyism bordering on fascism (in the Juan Peron sense).
Trump's predictable behavior, based on his business history, is liberal behavior that does not match his rhetoric. He never put America first in his own businesses. He constantly relied on bail outs. He constantly grew regulations (such as the example above) and destroyed private property.
That makes him not even slightly reasonable to most of us and just the flip side of what makes Hillary corrupt.
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If someone puts the option in front of you that they will shoot your right arm or left arm, and then try to make the case shooting your left arm is better because it isn't your dominant arm, there is zero reason you should accept the choice in the first place. That is someone you fight against, not someone you negotiate with.
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Hey silly. I'm not voting for Hillary and I'm not voting for Trump.
If you idiots hadn't foisted a corrupt liberal on us to run against a corrupt liberal, we wouldn't be in this mess.
YOU did this to us. YOU take responsibility for your part in the destruction of America.
All the dopey poems in the world don't change the truth.
NONE of us is voting for Hillary.
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But know a vote not to Trump
Is a vote for the Bitch.
This was obviously said by someone who does not understand the electoral process at all.
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I have made a choice, just not from the two corrupt liberals.
So what percentage of possibility do you assign to being wrong. If you claim that there is zero chance, then I must conclude that you do indeed believe that you can foretell the future, since that would be the only way there could be zero chance.
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So what percentage of possibility do you assign to being wrong. If you claim that there is zero chance, then I must conclude that you do indeed believe that you can foretell the future, since that would be the only way there could be zero chance.
I would say 80/20 actually, not by foretelling the future, but by analyzing the past. You can tell how someone will act and how true to their word they will be by looking at what they've done in the past.
As I stated above at great length, the way Trump ran his own businesses and spent his own money is evidence that nothing he says now is true. That's the only tangible evidence we have now to measure his words by.
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This was obviously said by someone who does not understand the electoral process at all.
Absolute nonsense. I have forgotten more about the electoral process than you have even known, my insulting, fanatically anti-Trump, irrational friend.
As most fanatical anti-Trumpsters, Shadow Ace denies reality in order to remake it into something that assuages his conscience (maybe some sane part of him which still remains feels badly about throwing his vote away as if it is worthless). The purpose for the election is to select a president from those candidates who can win. What other possible good reason is there to vote?
Dress up that reality in whatever Halloween costume you like, with each adornment, you separate further and further from reality.
If you do not want to accept any possibility that Trump might be better than Hill-O-Lies as an act of faith or intuition, then do so. But don't keep shoving nonsense in my face such as "there is some other good reason for voting than selecting one candidate who can win or the other" (here is the most popular one: "sending a statement).
If you refuse to vote for one of the candidates who can win, you are sending only one statement which will endure over history, "I am not really serious about exercising my voting franchise" and no other.
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It's interesting how Trump trolls come on the forum acting like decent people and soon bare their fangs to reveal a nasty Trump-like arrogance and disturbing rigidity of thought.
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Absolute nonsense. I have forgotten more about the electoral process than you have even known, my insulting, fanatically anti-Trump, irrational friend.
As most fanatical anti-Trumpsters, Shadow Ace denies reality in order to remake it into something that assuages his conscience (maybe some sane part of him which still remains feels badly about throwing his vote away as if it is worthless). The purpose for the election is to select a president from those candidates who can win. What other possible good reason is there to vote?
Dress up that reality in whatever Halloween costume you like, with each adornment, you separate further and further from reality.
If you do not want to accept any possibility that Trump might be better than Hill-O-Lies as an act of faith or intuition, then do so. But don't keep shoving nonsense in my face such as "there is some other good reason for voting than selecting one candidate who can win or the other" (here is the most popular one: "sending a statement).
If you refuse to vote for one of the candidates who can win, you are sending only one statement which will endure over history, "I am not really serious about exercising my voting franchise" and no other.
You are convincing no one with your belligerence. Besides many of us have already voted.
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This was obviously said by someone who does not understand the electoral process at all.
Agree, @ShadowAce .
It's interesting how many ignorant Trump zealots are arrogant at the same time.
Deadly combination of character flaws....... but VERY like Trump, himself.
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I would say 80/20 actually, not by foretelling the future, but by analyzing the past. You can tell how someone will act and how true to their word they will be by looking at what they've done in the past.
As I stated above at great length, the way Trump ran his own businesses and spent his own money is evidence that nothing he says now is true. That's the only tangible evidence we have now to measure his words by.
Well, thank you for being the most honest of anyone else by far AbraXas!!!
So it's 80/20. Since it is safe to assume that you are willing to accept the possibility that Hill-O-Lies will be as bad or worse than the Eightball Obama with 100% certainty, what you are saying is that you are unwilling to accept the 20 % possibility that you will be avoiding absolute disaster for the nation?
So if you were faced with a choice of eleven doors, (ten unknown and one that you knew would lead to Hill-O-Lies as your jailer) with the knowledge that two lead to freedom, you would not choose one of the remaining unknown doors but would instead sit on your hands and let blind fate carry you through which ever door they liked?
With all due respect, (and that is great) that does not sound like much like courage to me. It sounds ( forgive me) like the act (or refusal to act) of a man whose spirit has been broken and who no longer wants to even try to control his own destiny. Twenty percent chance is much, much better than nothing - especially in a universe with a loving God in heaven to assist us.
Roll the bones.
We go out in the world and take our chances
Fate is just the weight of circumstances
That's the way that Lady Luck dances
Roll the bones
Why are we here?
Because we're here
Roll the bones
Why does it happen?
Because it happens
Roll the bones.
If you live in a deathly blue state, then your vote for president literally means almost nothing. In a swing state however, yours could be a decisive vote. Carpe diem! Add your fractional voltage to the circuit that fries any chance that Hill-O-Lies will become president.
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Agree, @ShadowAce .
It's interesting how many ignorant Trump zealots are arrogant at the same time.
Deadly combination of character flaws....... but VERY like Trump, himself.
How very like anti-Trumpster fanatics to minimize and objectify people who simply support Donald Trump as "a "zealot". I am anti-Hill-O-Lies, not pro Trump. I was a Cruz supporter from the beginning but I care more about the fate of the nation than anything so I will roll the dice with even the slightest possibility that God will help save us from certain disaster in a Hill-O-Lies presidency. I believe in God and in taking action where possible. I am no zealot except for Almighty God.
What exactly have I posted that would warrant accusations of ignorance or lead to the insult of arrogance or lack of knowledge of the electoral process?
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How very like anti-Trumpster fanatics to minimize and objectify people who simply support Donald Trump as "a "zealot".
What exactly have I posted that would warrant accusations of ignorance or lead to the insult of arrogance or lack of knowledge of the electoral process?
Pretty much everything on this thread. Especially your snarky, condescending response to ShadowAce.
But your stupid, yet arrogant initial post was all it took to understand that you don't get it.
btw, stop whining about being "insulted" when your poem was nothing but an insult to anyone who cares both about conservatism and integrity.
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There once was a doofus named Donald
Who was a clown much like McRonald
His antics buffoonish
His speech was cartoonish
Now Republicans are going to get pommelled.
Are you writing these yourself, RAT Patrol?? Because they're VERY funny! :beer:
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Pretty much everything on this thread. Especially your snarky, condescending response to ShadowAce.
But your stupid, yet arrogant initial post was all it took to understand that you don't get it.
btw, stop whining about being "insulted" when your poem was nothing but an insult to anyone who cares both about conservatism and integrity.
Be specific if you can, which I frankly doubt. Yours is the common response from anti-Trumpsters. Full of insults but devoid of facts.
The poem was meant as humor. As a resuilt of posting humor, I have been accused of being ignorant of the electorate process (you refuse to say why) arrogance ( ditto) zealotry (ditto). So answer the question or admit that you can't. Don't be afraid, I will listen.
And BTW he is a man, he can defend himself or do you doubt that?
And pointing out cretnious, unprovoked insults is not whining, it's mention a lack of class. Note that of all of the posts, the anti-Trumpters are the ones with numerous insults and all I did was post a humorous poem. That speaks volumes about who has more class.
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Who let this chump in?
Better vetting people! :police:
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Classified emails
Insecure secrets of state
Thanks, Carlos Danger
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Who let this chump in?
Better vetting people! :police:
Hey Wingnut, bring it. Or is all you've got lame insults and BS tough-guy posturing like that pompous avatar? Insult me to my face, coward.
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@LateForLunch blij26
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There once was a doofus named Donald
Who was a clown much like McRonald
His antics buffoonish
His speech was cartoonish
Now Republicans are going to get pommelled.
I cannot frankly imagine anything more lame and hypocritical than someone who quotes Holy Scripture and is ostensibly a Christian, to be supporting Hill-O-Lies Clinton by refusing to accept the chance that another candidate could be better. That is pretty GD lame. Not to mention grossly hypocritical. Any substantive response - or would you like to join the parade of dull-witted insults that has spewed forth from the nihilistic, self adoring, pompous anti-Trumpster brigade on this thread? I mean only one response even tried to be substantive, the rest were just self-righteous justifications for refusing to vote (that we have heard a thousand times before) insults, BS accusations and vituperations. Brilliant folks. You are really making yourselves look great on this thread.
What's next? Threats?
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Be specific if you can, which I frankly doubt. Yours is the common response from anti-Trumpsters. Full of insults but devoid of facts.
The poem was meant as humor. As a resuilt of posting humor, I have been accused of being ignorant of the electorate process (you refuse to say why) arrogance ( ditto) zealotry (ditto). So answer the question or admit that you can't. Don't be afraid, I will listen.
And BTW he is a man, he can defend himself or do you doubt that?
And pointing out cretnious, unprovoked insults is not whining, it's mention a lack of class. Note that of all of the posts, the anti-Trumpters are the ones with numerous insults and all I did was post a humorous poem. That speaks volumes about who has more class.
Your poem was intended to insult. It may be funny to you, but even in your so-called "humor," your point was to insult.'
Whining about being insulted just makes you look like a wimp.
And a dishonest one at that.
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Yes. LOL. My own originals. Alter them however you like so long as the theme is the same.
I write music, but not poetry.
You're on a roll. Keep it up! ^-^
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Hey Wingnut, bring it. Or is all you've got lame insults and BS tough-guy posturing like that pompous avatar? Insult me to my face, coward.
How bigaboy are ya?
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There was a candidate from Nantucket
Who made us all want to say ------ it....
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Hey Wingnut, bring it. Or is all you've got lame insults and BS tough-guy posturing like that pompous avatar? Insult me to my face, coward.
He's not alone here bub. We've seen what you do. Your pathetic projection is typical of the thuggish behavior exhibited by your prince's mob of zealots aspiring to act like your classless boor of a nominee.
You think you can poke us in the eye and then dare us to hit you back?
You are picking on the wrong bunch here bub, you'll rue the day you decided to be stupid.
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Concerning the silly assertion that there are more than two choices. There are only two choices that can win. I suppose that someone will now try to refute that as well.
No, there are no choices that can win - But then, I guess that depends upon your definition of winning. The only choices I see that are not directly detrimental to Conservatism and my way of life are 3rd party or abstaining.
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A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates.
Yes, in fact, it is - Read the Federalist papers on the subject - why the founders really hated the idea of a two party system. The intention is to vote for that which you personally believe in. It is party voting that is fanatical -Winning for the cause of winning, rather than the solemn duty that the vote was designed to be. I'll stick with that.
There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.
Then you have rendered yourself invincibly ignorant.
Trump gets a lot of criticism from so many hammer-heads because he is "capricious, unpredictable" - yet these same angry critics insist in the same breath that Trump's actions as president can be predicted with absolute certainty. Help me out - WHICH IS IT???? Is Trump so predictable that his behavior can be foreseen with absolute precision or not !? ! If not, then there is at least some chance that he may do something that cannot be predicted such as make better choices than Hill-O-Lies ? WHICH IS IT !?! Pick a position and stay with it for at least one post!
It is in fact BOTH. He is a lifetime liberal with NYC values. He's a con man and a crony capitalist. It's how he thinks. That much is predictable.
But he is also vengeful, vindictive, and driven by popularity. that makes him capricious.
But above all, he is of low character (and an a$$4073, to boot) - there will be nothing good coming from such a 'man'. To ask my endorsement of such as he is unconscionable.
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I cannot frankly imagine anything more lame and hypocritical than someone who quotes Holy Scripture and is ostensibly a Christian, to be supporting Hill-O-Lies Clinton by refusing to accept the chance that another candidate could be better. That is pretty GD lame. Not to mention grossly hypocritical. Any substantive response - or would you like to join the parade of dull-witted insults that has spewed forth from the nihilistic, self adoring, pompous anti-Trumpster brigade on this thread? I mean only one response even tried to be substantive, the rest were just self-righteous justifications for refusing to vote (that we have heard a thousand times before) insults, BS accusations and vituperations. Brilliant folks. You are really making yourselves look great on this thread.
What's next? Threats?
Nah......... you Trump zealots have the corner on threats. Ask your buddy Longmire about how he's threatening that there will be "hell to pay."
Of course, I'm betting neither of you are men enough to actually carry out the Trump threats.
You haven't gotten any threats from us because we're civilized people.
Unlike your thug brigade.
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There once was a doofus named Donald
Who was a clown much like McRonald
His antics buffoonish
His speech was cartoonish
Now Republicans are going to get pommelled.
I think that's called a limerick
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I write music, but not poetry.
You're on a roll. Keep it up! ^-^
And it's tough sledding, mind you - because nothing rhymes with 'Orange'...
@RAT Patrol
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I cannot frankly imagine anything more lame and hypocritical than someone who quotes Holy Scripture and is ostensibly a Christian, to be supporting Hill-O-Lies Clinton by refusing to accept the chance that another candidate could be better. That is pretty GD lame. Not to mention grossly hypocritical.
Then you are also ignorant of what the Bible says about such a situation - doing evil that good may come, calling evil good and good evil, going along with the crowd instead of doing what's right, bearing false witness - It goes on and on.
I can't imagine how a Christian can justify voting *for* Trump, and I am not alone. I literally know only two people that will be voting for him IRL... And that is mighty close to being only one.
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The girl was startled awake during the wee hours of the night when a hand rested on her rump. After a brief instance of panic, she realized that her father had staggered in from the office to the wrong wing of the Penthouse and fallen asleep again. He'd be up tweeting in an hour or two, she could put up with this for that long. Besides she was raised by nannies and only saw him occasionally.
When the hand on her hip started moving, she sighed. It was flattering that he had good taste and stayed off the Coke these days at least.
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And it's tough sledding, mind you - because nothing rhymes with 'Orange'...
@RAT Patrol
Yeah.......... but coming up with "pommelled" to rhyme with "Donald" was genius!
@RAT Patrol
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I cannot frankly imagine anything more lame and hypocritical than someone who quotes Holy Scripture and is ostensibly a Christian, to be supporting Hill-O-Lies Clinton by refusing to accept the chance that another candidate could be better. That is pretty GD lame. Not to mention grossly hypocritical. Any substantive response - or would you like to join the parade of dull-witted insults that has spewed forth from the nihilistic, self adoring, pompous anti-Trumpster brigade on this thread? I mean only one response even tried to be substantive, the rest were just self-righteous justifications for refusing to vote (that we have heard a thousand times before) insults, BS accusations and vituperations. Brilliant folks. You are really making yourselves look great on this thread.
What's next? Threats?
Oh............ by the way............. accusing RAT Patrol of supporting Hillary is an OUTRIGHT LIE.
I know you guys have been trained to tell the lie when you're trolling, but can't you come up with something else for a change? Go back to the Mother Ship and get a new line.
The only thing this one does is make you look really stupid.
Besides totally dishonest.
Which, of course, anyone with a shred of honesty in them already knew.....
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I can't imagine how a Christian can justify voting *for* Trump, and I am not alone. I literally know only two people that will be voting for him IRL... And that is mighty close to being only one.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! *update* *update* *update* *update* *update* *update* HAHAHAHAHAHA!
I just now got off the phone... And it is official:
I literally don't know a single soul that is going to vote for Trump. Not a single one!
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Yeah.......... but coming up with "pommelled" to rhyme with "Donald" was genius!
YEP!
I am tempted to participate... but I am afraid to do so... All of my limerick expertise was written on bathroom walls... And considering the subject matter, I might too easily revert to form. **nononono* **nononono* **nononono*
@RAT Patrol
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There once was a man who was orange
Who looked like he ate too much porridge
Republicans buy
All his fables and lies
Just because his opponent is horrid
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Then you are also ignorant of what the Bible says about such a situation - doing evil that good may come, calling evil good and good evil, going along with the crowd instead of doing what's right, bearing false witness - It goes on and on.
I can't imagine how a Christian can justify voting *for* Trump, and I am not alone. I literally know only two people that will be voting for him IRL... And that is mighty close to being only one.
That's nothing.
Had a long-time self-identifying Christian gal I know who learned I was voting for Castle, actually state that I have committed an unpardonable sin - and that God does not forgive.
I laughed and told her that we obviously worship a different God.
It's interesting that such people will state that God forgives the homosexual and adultery or abortion agenda, going on to laud Trump's conversion from braggadocios adulterer - but in the same breath insist God will not, and cannot forgive someone who votes for anyone other than Trump.
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It's interesting that such people will state that God forgives the homosexual and adultery or abortion agenda, going on to laud Trump's conversion from braggadocios adulterer - but in the same breath insist God will not, and cannot forgive someone who votes for anyone other than Trump.
It is simply a matter of reading what's between the covers. To consider anything otherwise is following men and not YHWH. It has been startling for me to discover how many can be swayed because they have not read the Book.
And that is all it could be.
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That's nothing.
Had a long-time self-identifying Christian gal I know who learned I was voting for Castle, actually state that I have committed an unpardonable sin - and that God does not forgive.
I laughed and told her that we obviously worship a different God.
It's interesting that such people will state that God forgives the homosexual and adultery or abortion agenda, going on to laud Trump's conversion from braggadocios adulterer - but in the same breath insist God will not, and cannot forgive someone who votes for anyone other than Trump.
The ignorance of Scripture by people claiming to be Christian is astounding. And the ability to brainwash them is even more startling.
It's not surprising that the Church in America is so weak, is it?
If Donald Trump is an idol to be worshipped, how far has the Church crumbled?
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The ignorance of Scripture by people claiming to be Christian is astounding. And the ability to brainwash them is even more startling.
It's not surprising that the Church in America is so weak, is it?
If Donald Trump is an idol to be worshipped, how far has the Church crumbled?
To be fair, many, many recoil in absolute revulsion. Like I just said upthread, I now officially know not a single soul that is voting for the Cheeto-dust 'king'. What a happy day for me!
Most of my friends are hard core fundamentalists of one stripe or another... All of them are rough around the edges types that owe their life to Yeshua, and they know it.
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To be fair, many, many recoil in absolute revulsion. Like I just said upthread, I now officially know not a single soul that is voting for the Cheeto-dust 'king'. What a happy day for me!
Most of my friends are hard core fundamentalists of one stripe or another... All of them are rough around the edges types that owe their life to Yeshua, and they know it.
I know a few, but the majority can't stomach the thought of voting for a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-men in the girls' bathroom, sexual pervert.
I can't, for the life of me, understand why a single Christian can vote for this amoral cretin.
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How bigaboy are ya?
That's an odd question. Why do you ask. Looking for a date?
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I know a few, but the majority can't stomach the thought of voting for a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-men in the girls' bathroom, sexual pervert.
I can't, for the life of me, understand why a single Christian can vote for this amoral cretin.
So by that logic, it's better by not acting (a form of action called wasting a vote) you allow a worse person to come to power. Forgive me but I fail to see how that makes sense. Perhaps you can explain it to me? You can save the explanation if you are one of those who believe that they have supernatural powers to determine beyond all reasonable doubt that the future will hold. I must say, I wish that I had as much faith in my own abilities to judge character as you.
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I can't, for the life of me, understand why a single Christian can vote for this amoral cretin.
Me neither. At least in the Christian Right.
But there, perhaps, is food for thought - I have admired non-denominational Evangelicals - Generally more 'praise' oriented than fundamental... But their claim was fairly valid in that they rejected the traditions that infect old-school Protestant denominations. While they are fairly impervious to the evil that comes slowly through centuries, it seems they have proven themselves easily tossed by current events.
The serpent comes in many ways.
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That's an odd question. Why do you ask. Looking for a date?
Bout what I thought. ... you ain't bigger than a bar of soap.
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So by that logic, it's better by not acting (a form of action called wasting a vote) you allow a worse person to come to power. Forgive me but I fail to see how that makes sense.
'A worse person' is subjective, not in evidence.
We are being asked to endorse - There is no 'voting against'. If all Conservatives thought as you do, Trump would not only win, but win with a gigantic mandate. Conservatism would be mandating NYC big-government socialism and NYC values. A pox upon that day, because that is the day wherein we are truly lost.
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Your poem was intended to insult. It may be funny to you, but even in your so-called "humor," your point was to insult.'
Whining about being insulted just makes you look like a wimp.
And a dishonest one at that.
More supernatural powers eh? How the heck would you know what I intended by posting a humorous dig at anti-Trumpsters? To be honest I wanted to stimulate a conversation not necessarily to change minds (since most of those who have responded seem to be fanatics who have no inclination to alter their choice) but to demonstrate how devoid of rational substance the anti=-Trump arguments really are. Nobody will answer simple questions with simple answers - they try to obfuscate and confuse with verbiage and lofty rhetoric but make no substantive points. They dance but never advance. So careful with that ax claiming moral superiority and keen insight, Eugene. It cuts both ways. If we would speak of being thin-skinned, what of you and others who go absolutely ape-sh*t because of a humorous poem. I mean, just review and count all of the unprovoked, crude, personal insults in the first ten response posts then tell me that I was the one complaining or insulting too much. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts, Chatelaine.
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'A worse person' is subjective, not in evidence.
We are being asked to endorse - There is no 'voting against'. If all Conservatives thought as you do, Trump would not only win, but win with a gigantic mandate. Conservatism would be mandating NYC big-government socialism and NYC values. A pox upon that day, because that is the day wherein we are truly lost.
Fiddle faddle. This is a logic gate with two options. Current goes to gate "A" that circuit is activated. Current goes to "B" and that one is on. Don't try to over-complicate things. You are indulging in morbid fantasies about Mr. Trump and calling them "reasonable conjecture". One can reasonably assume that Trump is at worst, a populist who wants to be reelected. So it is reasonable to assume therefore, that he will make decisions that would tend to refrain from alienating most of the people who elected him the first time.
If you cannot agree to that much we are way too far apart to have a productive conversation about politics.
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So by that logic, it's better by not acting (a form of action called wasting a vote) you allow a worse person to come to power. Forgive me but I fail to see how that makes sense. Perhaps you can explain it to me? You can save the explanation if you are one of those who believe that they have supernatural powers to determine beyond all reasonable doubt that the future will hold. I must say, I wish that I had as much faith in my own abilities to judge character as you.
You really do think you're a clever boy, don't you?
My faith is not in my own abilities, as is yours, but in an Almighty God, and a set of standards that supercedes the human judgment on which you rely.
It says that integrity and character are of the utmost importance, and that supporting sin and overlooking not only a vile nature, but one who is proud of his perversion, is not acceptable.
I have no doubt that nothing anyone else says will convince you that you are wrong, because here you are, trolling on a conservative forum cheerleading for a liberal pervert, and trying to convince Christians to go against their moral code.
Somehow, the confusion that you display regarding morality, doesn't indicate that you are open to the truth about its importance.
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More supernatural powers eh? How the heck would you know what I intended by posting a humorous dig at anti-Trumpsters? Careful with that ax, Eugene. It cuts both ways. If we would speak of being thin-skinned, what of you and others who go absolutely ape-sh*t because of a humorous poem. I mean, just review and count all of the unprovoked, crude, personal insults in the first ten response posts then tell me that I was the one complaining or insulting too much. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts, Chatelaine.
Time to put the insulting, provoking, non-thinking troll on Ignore.
There's no intelligent life in there, Scotty......
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Fiddle faddle. This is a logic gate with two options. Current goes to gate "A" that circuit is activated. Current goes to "B" and that one is on.
OK. The circuit I am interested in is Conservatism. That's what needs to light up.
The logic gate does only have two options : 'Conservatism' and 'not Conservatism'.
There are only two options that could activate that circuit, and neither one of them is yours.
Don't try to over-complicate things.
It isn't complicated at all - This is the simplest election I have ever participated in.
You are indulging in morbid fantasies about Mr. Trump and calling them "reasonable conjecture".
I am not. I am indulging in looking at his own record and the things that come out of his own mouth.
One can reasonably assume that Trump is at worst, a populist who wants to be reelected. So it is reasonable to assume therefore, that he will make decisions that would tend to refrain from alienating most of the people who elected him the first time.
Utter pap. His problem in the here and now is BECAUSE he is alienating people to get his way.
If you cannot agree to that much we are way too far apart to have a productive conversation about politics.
Then there it is.
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Oh come on, give it a shot.
There once was a man from the city
whose liberal bent was so sh...
No, that won't do...
Here I sit upon my rump
Giving birth to another T...
Nope... can't help it.
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More supernatural powers eh? How the heck would you know what I intended by posting a humorous dig at anti-Trumpsters? To be honest I wanted to stimulate a conversation not necessarily to change minds (since most of those who have responded seem to be fanatics who have no inclination to alter their choice) but to demonstrate how devoid of rational substance the anti=-Trump arguments really are.
So by your own words, all you intended to do with the OP was to insult, and couch it in clever justification.
The lengths of effort you thugs for Trump go to in order to flick the noses and to ridicule the principles of those who refuse to vote the way you demand they vote, is truly amazing.
But that is what evil does. It never permits or allows the liberty of conscience from dead works go unassailed.
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So by your own words, all you intended to do with the OP was to insult, and couch it in clever justification.
The lengths of effort you thugs for Trump go to in order to flick the noses and to ridicule the principles of those who refuse to vote the way you demand they vote, is truly amazing.
But that is what evil does. It never permits or allows the liberty of conscience from dead works go unassailed.
This one is proud of his lack of principles and mocking us for not giving up on ours.
It's absolutely shameful, and yet he's proud of himself for being 'malleable' and willing to support evil.
btw, there wasn't anything 'clever' about anything he posted........ only in his own mind.
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So by your own words, all you intended to do with the OP was to insult, and couch it in clever justification.
The lengths of effort you thugs for Trump go to in order to flick the noses and to ridicule the principles of those who refuse to vote the way you demand they vote, is truly amazing.
But that is what evil does. It never permits or allows the liberty of conscience from dead works go unassailed.
Why I don't even bother to engage trumpers anymore. I really have no more in common with them than I have with democrats.
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Why I don't even bother to engage trumpers anymore. I really have no more in common with them than I have with democrats.
I think that may be because that's exactly what they are.......
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Why I don't even bother to engage trumpers anymore. I really have no more in common with them than I have with democrats.
I still like to egg them on every once in a while, just to expose how silly their arguments are.
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Trump gets a lot of criticism from so many hammer-heads because he is "capricious, unpredictable" - yet these same angry critics insist in the same breath that Trump's actions as president can be predicted with absolute certainty. Help me out - WHICH IS IT???? Is Trump so predictable that his behavior can be foreseen with absolute precision or not !? ! If not, then there is at least some chance that he may do something that cannot be predicted such as make better choices than Hill-O-Lies ? WHICH IS IT !?! Pick a position and stay with it for at least one post!
@LateForLunch
Nobody can say with 100% certainty what a Trump presidency would look like. But we can, through many past and present statements and actions, get some sort of hint. We know he cannot take any criticism. That's fine when he just has a Twitter account but what happens when he controls government agencies? He has also made it clear he plans to spend more and grow the size of the federal government. He has given support to some kind of government healthcare plan. In fact, he was the only Republican in the primary that has given a shout out to the Canadian system. The same Canadian healthcare system, BTW, that even the Canadian government has admitted it's not sustainable. He's also backed minimum wage increase. The list goes on.
So, in summary, I suspect we will see a return of "Compassionate Conservatism" under Trump.
And we will probably see trillion dollar deficits again under his watch. Borrowing and printing will have the same ill effects on our long term economic growth and currency regardless if it happens under a Clinton administration or Trump.
I don't buy into the belief that we can have more government largess as long as we do it "smarter."
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Absolute nonsense. I have forgotten more about the electoral process than you have even known, my insulting, fanatically anti-Trump, irrational friend.
@LateForLunch
Wow. I make a one-line comment about a screed that you later claim to be humorous, and all of a sudden you know everything about me. I'm truly impressed.
As most fanatical anti-Trumpsters, Shadow Ace denies reality in order to remake it into something that assuages his conscience (maybe some sane part of him which still remains feels badly about throwing his vote away as if it is worthless). The purpose for the election is to select a president from those candidates who can win. What other possible good reason is there to vote?
You know what I'm denying and you know what my conscience is saying. Again--pretty impressive.
But you're wrong--the purpose of the election is not to select from two bad choices. It's to endorse the person whom you believe would be best for the country. There are no candidates in this election that fit that criterium for me.
Dress up that reality in whatever Halloween costume you like, with each adornment, you separate further and further from reality.
If you do not want to accept any possibility that Trump might be better than Hill-O-Lies as an act of faith or intuition, then do so. But don't keep shoving nonsense in my face such as "there is some other good reason for voting than selecting one candidate who can win or the other" (here is the most popular one: "sending a statement).
"better" does not equal "good." I was not shoving any nonsense at all toward you. I made one comment about the electoral college. Perhaps you need to go back to school and learn to read for comprehension
If you refuse to vote for one of the candidates who can win, you are sending only one statement which will endure over history, "I am not really serious about exercising my voting franchise" and no other.
Wrong again. I am sending the message that neither candidate is good for this country.
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I want to thank all who participated in this thread.
It was my hope to see on display exactly what I saw – your true natures and soul (or lack of it) revealed for all to see. With only one or two exceptions (you know who you are and may God bless you for your classiness) you Anti-Trumpsters have outdone yourselves and not disappointed in the slightest on this thread! Hopefully others who may be undecided will recall this shameful spectacle when they vote.
We have seen the scornful, derisive self-assurance of the committed nihilists! Indulging in morbid fantasies and calling it “realism”. Foretelling the future and making absolutist positive declarations of other’s motives as if one can read minds in one moment, then condemning the candidate in the next as “obviously crazy”.
Peppering justifications for resigning from any meaningful participation in the political process with odd, self-contradicting flights of “logic” : first “the candidate is unpredictable and cannot be trusted,” then in the next breath swearing to God and all men, “we know with certainty exactly what he will do”. Absurdity heaped upon absurdity.
And worst of all, the mountains of abusive vituperation against those who disagree (no matter how politely, they are Cretinously insulted, marginalized, dehumanized) – these sort who accept gracious praise from tolerant others who support the candidate and yield their reasons on request! Amid their admissions of the candidate's flaws, admissions of inconsistent past behavior, admissions of imperfections scowling walk the condemners too self important to find humility or doubt in themselves! The jaded scoffers who hoard these concessions to bland reality like greedy villagers gathering lumps of metal to sequester, gloat, marvel over and finger in private ecstasy cooing and drooling.
And gathering together in a loose fraternity of hate – lofting up hopelessness like a banner of glory – GIVE UP!! They cry! THERE IS NO HOPE!!
Heroic.
A graceful powerful swan dive off a cliff edge onto the rocks! Like the Spartans of Thermopylae turned craven, shrugging their shoulders, and deriding their King - barking over their shoulders as they wander off to be overrun by the Persians one town at a time, “You can’t be trusted, Leonidas! You have skeletons in your closet and you give up too easily! We are going to wait for a perfect leader as we are perfect. Call us back when you are a good, worthy person as we are, but not before!! Until then, we will show you and all others so audacious as to venture to defend the land, our back!! We are too good for the likes of you We will find our glorious destiny in making seats of our hands!!
Selah.
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Well, thank you for being the most honest of anyone else by far AbraXas!!!
So it's 80/20. Since it is safe to assume that you are willing to accept the possibility that Hill-O-Lies will be as bad or worse than the Eightball Obama with 100% certainty, what you are saying is that you are unwilling to accept the 20 % possibility that you will be avoiding absolute disaster for the nation?
So if you were faced with a choice of eleven doors, (ten unknown and one that you knew would lead to Hill-O-Lies as your jailer) with the knowledge that two lead to freedom, you would not choose one of the remaining unknown doors but would instead sit on your hands and let blind fate carry you through which ever door they liked?
With all due respect, (and that is great) that does not sound like much like courage to me. It sounds ( forgive me) like the act (or refusal to act) of a man whose spirit has been broken and who no longer wants to even try to control his own destiny. Twenty percent chance is much, much better than nothing - especially in a universe with a loving God in heaven to assist us.
Roll the bones.
We go out in the world and take our chances
Fate is just the weight of circumstances
That's the way that Lady Luck dances
Roll the bones
Why are we here?
Because we're here
Roll the bones
Why does it happen?
Because it happens
Roll the bones.
If you live in a deathly blue state, then your vote for president literally means almost nothing. In a swing state however, yours could be a decisive vote. Carpe diem! Add your fractional voltage to the circuit that fries any chance that Hill-O-Lies will become president.
Zero chance, friend, that anyone who proudly proclaims their NeverTrump status will heed your rational analysis. Unfortunately, for most, it's a matter of wounded pride before country – they still haven't gotten over the beating their primary candidates took. Anyway, that's how I see it. Why else would normally sane individuals die on this HILLary – and risk a known quantity like the Clinton crime family and their progressive minions back in to the White House?
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Be specific if you can, which I frankly doubt. Yours is the common response from anti-Trumpsters. Full of insults but devoid of facts.
The poem was meant as humor. As a resuilt of posting humor, I have been accused of being ignorant of the electorate process (you refuse to say why) arrogance ( ditto) zealotry (ditto). So answer the question or admit that you can't. Don't be afraid, I will listen.
And BTW he is a man, he can defend himself or do you doubt that?
And pointing out cretnious, unprovoked insults is not whining, it's mention a lack of class. Note that of all of the posts, the anti-Trumpters are the ones with numerous insults and all I did was post a humorous poem. That speaks volumes about who has more class.
I don't mean to pester you on this point, but you're talking to a brick wall. But, if you got the time...knock yourself out. Experience is the best teacher.
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I want to thank all who participated in this thread.
It was my hope to see on display exactly what I saw – your true natures and soul (or lack of it) revealed for all to see. With only one or two exceptions (you know who you are and may God bless you for your classiness) you Anti-Trumpsters have outdone yourselves and not disappointed in the slightest on this thread! Hopefully others who may be undecided will recall this shameful spectacle when they vote.
We have seen the scornful, derisive self-assurance of the committed nihilists! Indulging in morbid fantasies and calling it “realism”. Foretelling the future and making absolutist positive declarations of other’s motives as if one can read minds in one moment, then condemning the candidate in the next as “obviously crazy”.
Peppering justifications for resigning from any meaningful participation in the political process with odd, self-contradicting flights of “logic” : first “the candidate is unpredictable and cannot be trusted,” then in the next breath swearing to God and all men, “we know with certainty exactly what he will do”. Absurdity heaped upon absurdity.
And worst of all, the mountains of abusive vituperation against those who disagree (no matter how politely, they are Cretinously insulted, marginalized, dehumanized) – these sort who accept gracious praise from tolerant others who support the candidate and yield their reasons on request! Amid their admissions of the candidate's flaws, admissions of inconsistent past behavior, admissions of imperfections scowling walk the condemners too self important to find humility or doubt in themselves! The jaded scoffers who hoard these concessions to bland reality like greedy villagers gathering lumps of metal to sequester, gloat, marvel over and finger in private ecstasy cooing and drooling.
And gathering together in a loose fraternity of hate – lofting up hopelessness like a banner of glory – GIVE UP!! They cry! THERE IS NO HOPE!!
Heroic.
A graceful powerful swan dive off a cliff edge onto the rocks! Like the Spartans of Thermopylae turned craven, shrugging their shoulders, and deriding their King - barking over their shoulders as they wander off to be overrun by the Persians one town at a time, “You can’t be trusted, Leonidas! You have skeletons in your closet and you give up too easily! We are going to wait for a perfect leader as we are perfect. Call us back when you are a good, worthy person as we are, but not before!! Until then, we will show you and all others so audacious as to venture to defend the land, our back!! We are too good for the likes of you We will find our glorious destiny in making seats of our hands!!
Selah.
It's just a website. And your multi-syllabic exercise in patting yourself on the back means no more than anyone else's views here.
This screed reminds me of the crazy guy in downtown Dallas who is always preaching the end of the world.
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Here's a little poem from a #NeverTrumper to the author of this thread.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
You're a moron.
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I want to thank all who participated in this thread.
It was my hope to see on display exactly what I saw – your true natures and soul (or lack of it) revealed for all to see. With only one or two exceptions (you know who you are and may God bless you for your classiness) you Anti-Trumpsters have outdone yourselves and not disappointed in the slightest on this thread! Hopefully others who may be undecided will recall this shameful spectacle when they vote.
We have seen the scornful, derisive self-assurance of the committed nihilists! Indulging in morbid fantasies and calling it “realism”. Foretelling the future and making absolutist positive declarations of other’s motives as if one can read minds in one moment, then condemning the candidate in the next as “obviously crazy”.
Peppering justifications for resigning from any meaningful participation in the political process with odd, self-contradicting flights of “logic” : first “the candidate is unpredictable and cannot be trusted,” then in the next breath swearing to God and all men, “we know with certainty exactly what he will do”. Absurdity heaped upon absurdity.
And worst of all, the mountains of abusive vituperation against those who disagree (no matter how politely, they are Cretinously insulted, marginalized, dehumanized) – these sort who accept gracious praise from tolerant others who support the candidate and yield their reasons on request! Amid their admissions of the candidate's flaws, admissions of inconsistent past behavior, admissions of imperfections scowling walk the condemners too self important to find humility or doubt in themselves! The jaded scoffers who hoard these concessions to bland reality like greedy villagers gathering lumps of metal to sequester, gloat, marvel over and finger in private ecstasy cooing and drooling.
And gathering together in a loose fraternity of hate – lofting up hopelessness like a banner of glory – GIVE UP!! They cry! THERE IS NO HOPE!!
Heroic.
A graceful powerful swan dive off a cliff edge onto the rocks! Like the Spartans of Thermopylae turned craven, shrugging their shoulders, and deriding their King - barking over their shoulders as they wander off to be overrun by the Persians one town at a time, “You can’t be trusted, Leonidas! You have skeletons in your closet and you give up too easily! We are going to wait for a perfect leader as we are perfect. Call us back when you are a good, worthy person as we are, but not before!! Until then, we will show you and all others so audacious as to venture to defend the land, our back!! We are too good for the likes of you We will find our glorious destiny in making seats of our hands!!
Selah.
/snicker
And yet, here you are. :whistle:
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More supernatural powers eh? How the heck would you know what I intended by posting a humorous dig at anti-Trumpsters? To be honest I wanted to stimulate a conversation not necessarily to change minds (since most of those who have responded seem to be fanatics who have no inclination to alter their choice) but to demonstrate how devoid of rational substance the anti=-Trump arguments really are. Nobody will answer simple questions with simple answers - they try to obfuscate and confuse with verbiage and lofty rhetoric but make no substantive points. They dance but never advance. So careful with that ax claiming moral superiority and keen insight, Eugene. It cuts both ways. If we would speak of being thin-skinned, what of you and others who go absolutely ape-sh*t because of a humorous poem. I mean, just review and count all of the unprovoked, crude, personal insults in the first ten response posts then tell me that I was the one complaining or insulting too much. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts, Chatelaine.
My apologies. Seems I'm the one who is behind the curve. You obviously have a clear understanding of what you're up against.
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It was my hope to see on display exactly what I saw – your true natures and soul (or lack of it) revealed for all to see. With only one or two exceptions (you know who you are and may God bless you for your classiness) you Anti-Trumpsters have outdone yourselves and not disappointed in the slightest on this thread! Hopefully others who may be undecided will recall this shameful spectacle when they vote.
Conservatives who won't vote for a liberal. Imagine that.
Too bad for you that you cannot defend your candidate according to Conservative principles.
Maybe go try to convince the liberals - He's more their type. Maybe you can harangue them into discarding their hapless principles - Very few of theirs would need to be sacrificed.
As for me, like so many others here, I will stick with Conservatism. I sleep just fine at night knowing that I have an actual Conservative to vote *for*.
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I want to thank all who participated in this thread. It was my hope to see on display exactly what I saw – your true natures and soul (or lack of it) revealed for all to see. Anti-Trumpsters you have outdone yourselves and not disappointed in the slightest! Scornful, derisive self-assurance of the committed nihilists Indulging in morbid fantasies and calling it “realism”. Foretelling the future and making absolutist positive declarations of other’s motives as if one can read minds in one moment, then condemning the candidate in the next as “obviously crazy”. Peppering justifications for resigning from any meaningful participation in the political process with odd, self-contradicting flights of “logic” : first “the candidate is unpredictable and cannot be trusted,” then in the next breath swearing to yourselves and all, “ we know with certainty exactly what he will do”. Absurdity heaped upon absurdity. And worst of all, the mountains of abusive vituperation against those who disagree (no matter how politely, they are always insulted and dehumanized) – these sort who accept gracious praise from tolerant others who support the candidate and yield their reasons on request, amid admissions of flaws, admissions of inconsistent past behavior, admissions of imperfections and yet the jaded scoffer hoard these concessions to bland reality like greedy villagers gathering lumps of gold to sequester, gloat, marvel over and finger in private ecstasy cooing and drooling. And gathering together in a loose fraternity of hate – lofting up hopelessness like a banner of glory – GIVE UP!! They cry! THERE IS NO HOPE!! Heroic. A graceful powerful swan dive off a cliff edge onto the rocks! Like the Spartans of Thermopylae shrugging their shoulders, and deriding their King - barking over their shoulders as they wander off to be overrun by the Persians one town at a time, “You can’t be trusted, Leonidas! You have skeletons in your closet and you give up too easily! We are going to wait for a perfect leader as we are perfect. Call us back when you are a good, worthy person as we are, but not before!! Until then, we will show you and all others so audacious as to venture to defend the land, our back!! We are too good for the likes of you”!
Selah.
Paragraphs are your friends.
Therapy might be, too.
And please stay away from pointy objects and things that go bang.
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Paragraphs are your friends.
Therapy might be, too.
And please stay away from pointy objects and things that go bang.
I loved the righteous indignation. A true sign of the Trumpanzee in his natural state.
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Thanks again. Even when you are all told that you are making a humiliating spectacle of yourselves, you continue because you can't help yourselves. This is what happens when people allow themselves to be driven by strong emotions instead of strong reason. They lose perspective and fall into self-indulgent self-congratulatory sadism which is both unseemly and utterly, absolutely ineffective at positively attracting others to their POV. I always knew that there was a small but significant contingent of people on the anti-leftist end of the political spectrum with whom I agreed on policy (and still do for the most part) but who had arrived at their positions by other means than I employ. I have now had a chance to see them in all of their glorious, self-adoring splendor. Again. BRAVO!! I can't easily thank you all enough for making my point for me far better than I ever could have myself. It is one thing to tell everyone that certain types of people are wrong- headed, overly angry and largely non-rational, another entirely for them to demonstrate it in livid, pulsating living color!
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Paragraphs are your friends.
Therapy might be, too.
And please stay away from pointy objects and things that go bang.
Andy you nitwit. I posted it with paragraphs and the system didn't accept it, but instead reorganized it into a compact unit when you quoted it. Do try not to be a dolt, my good man!
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Thanks again. Even when you are all told that you are making a humiliating spectacle of yourselves, you continue because you can't help yourselves. This is what happens when people allow themselves to be driven by strong emotions instead of strong reason.
Classic projection.
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I want to thank all who participated in this thread.
It was my hope to see on display exactly what I saw – your true natures and soul (or lack of it) revealed for all to see.
So you admit by your own words you are nothing but a pathetic troll, demanding attention while insulting at the same time.
Nice Alinsky-style projection BTW.
But we have come to expect that from the Trump militant.
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I loved the righteous indignation. A true sign of the Trumpanzee in his natural state.
hah hah more insults. I doubt that you love much beyond seeing your own opinions and those like them in print. Insults: the last refuge and first impulse of people with small intellect - why embrace that Cub fan? Cretinous insults and nothing but Cretinous insults. Bravo! Your towering intellect must be the marvel of your neighborhood. BTW, the World Series ends today. Surely unlike your pointless, ill-mannered, Cyclopian miscreant sadism.
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/snicker
And yet, here you are. :whistle:
hah hah true enough! But the question is "Why am I here?" There is a hint in the quoted post. BTW, yours were some of the more civilized posts, Oceander. I wonder if your fanatical anti-Trump brothers and sisters count that as a shameful thing and will turn on you eventually. Are they capable of learning as well as teaching since they do not lack for self-assurance? I suppose you shall see in time. I wish you and yours well, since it is likely we agree on all save the Trump issue and are both anti-Leftists tried and true!
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Thanks again. Even when you are all told that you are making a humiliating spectacle of yourselves, you continue because you can't help yourselves.
Spectacle to whom? There are less than a dozen of you rabid Trump militant trolls posting on this board.
This is what happens when people allow themselves to be driven by strong emotions instead of strong reason.
More projection.
Look bub - the Anti-Trumps do not require Safe Spaces and demand bannings of everyone who will not genuflect your prince. Strong emotions sans strong reason? It's you people who cannot handle any negative criticisms of your messiah - hence the Safe Spaces you demanded, because your emotional unhingement cannot tolerate debate or any facts that contradict the false narratives you've constructed for your wannabe savior.
They lose perspective and fall into self-indulgent self-congratulatory sadism which is both unseemly and utterly, absolutely ineffective at positively attracting others to their POV.
You didn't need us to win you said. Why waste the time to rant and rave at those of us whom will not support your prince if you are so confident of your victory? You've done nothing to attract anyone to your prince, save a constant stream of endless castigation, insults, ridicule and threads like this targeted at NeverTrumpers.
Like your prince, your motivations are based on thin-skinned outrage that incites these exercises of ridicule for you due the fact we refuse to genuflect your man.
It is one thing to tell everyone that certain types of people are wrong- headed, overly angry and largely non-rational, another entirely for them to demonstrate it in livid, pulsating living color!
And yet here you are - doing that which you accuse us.
I guess you took Alinsky's rule No. 5 to heart.
You illustrate your mastery of it beautifully.
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But the question is "Why am I here?"
To troll and act as the bully you have splendidly illustrated yourself to be.
There is a hint in the quoted post. BTW, yours were some of the more civilized posts, Oceander. I wonder if your fanatical anti-Trump brothers and sisters count that as a shameful thing and will turn on you eventually.
Oh you hope for that to be so true.
Except, unlike you - friends and compatriots of a shared set of principles afford one another the liberty of exercising our consciences free from ridicule and disparagement.
Something you are totally incapable of.
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Andy you nitwit. I posted it with paragraphs and the system didn't accept it, but instead reorganized it into a compact unit when you quoted it. Do try not to be a dolt, my good man!
Funny, I still don't still don't see any paragraphs in the original post, which can easily be reformatted.
But I do see yet another Trumpster with anger issues.
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Here's a little poem from a #NeverTrumper to the author of this thread.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
You're a moron.
Now THAT is humorous! :beer:
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hah hah more insults. I doubt that you love much beyond seeing your own opinions and those like them in print. Insults: the last refuge and first impulse of people with small intellect - why embrace that Cub fan? Cretinous insults and nothing but Cretinous insults. Bravo! Your towering intellect must be the marvel of your neighborhood. BTW, the World Series ends today. Surely unlike your pointless, ill-mannered, Cyclopian miscreant sadism.
Could you move back to where ever you came from. Your post stink like a bucket of goat piss with the foam farted off and its rank.
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Could you move back to where ever you came from. Your post stink like a bucket of goat piss with the foam farted off and its rank.
LOL. You summed that up pretty succinctly.
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@LateForLunch
If you read anything in my reply to you that read like a personal attack against you, I apologize as that wasn't my intent. It was more of my attempt to outline why I have difficulty casting a vote for Mr Trump.
I guess all I can do is hope that if Trump wins he proves my fears about his presidency wrong.
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LOL. You summed that up pretty succinctly.
'Sounds like I hit a nerve fat-boy!! And no, as anxious as you and the other simians-who-wear-clothing are for me to go away and leave you to your waterhole, to grunt and wallow ecstatically - I think I'll stick around (and keep my own clothes on too!) There are numerous normal non-fanatic people who post on this Forum and their posts are enjoyable informative and interesting. And unlike you, they do not seem to be burdened with mental illness or the adjunct violent, convulsive eruptions which emanate from schizoaffective thought disorders. BTW, wipe your chin siuer. There is spittle there and there.
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@LateForLunch
If you read anything in my reply to you that read like a personal attack against you, I apologize as that wasn't my intent. It was more of my attempt to outline why I have difficulty casting a vote for Mr Trump.
I guess all I can do is hope that if Trump wins he proves my fears about his presidency wrong.
Fairly stated, sieur. Clearly you are not a fanatic but a thinking person, so conversing with you is a pleasure. Not the slightest offense taken at all. Know that I am no Trump fan myself - I liked Cruz from the beginning to the end of the primaries, then defaulted to the Buckley Rule afterward. Hopefully if Trump wins and does a less-than-worthy job, we conservatives can united and replace him in four years with someone more-principled. Possibly get him to withdraw and let Pence take over.
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Morbid ruminations and fantasies such as these are common. Stating these desperate disturbed daydreams as realities does not confirm them as such. Simians thump their chests in a similar manner but would emulate your post if they could speak, surely.
If one needs to explain to someone why Hill-O-Lies and Donald Trump are not identical, then no explanation could possibly suffice, the gap between the universe of that one and my own being unbridgeable by reasoned argument. Theirs a castle floating on the fumes from a sewer.
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@EasyAce easily wins this.
The title says A Burma Shave poem, and that is exactly what he provided. Short, pithy, and in 5 signs.
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Free country was the place to be
United States that were sovereign and free
Land spreadin' out so free of kings
Keep your rulers just place me where freedom rings
No, subject to kings is where I'd rather be
A ruthless strongman is the leader for me
I just adore a p--sy grab
Dahling can't help it I really think Trump is fab
The sludge
The judge
States' rights
But he fights
He's the nominee
Good-bye livin' free
Republican Party you are dead
Nihilists anthem. There is no hope! There is no hope! There is no hope! So I think I'll just sit around and mope and chew on my morbid fantasies and ruminations like some bovine. And vituperate and spit venom at anyone who doesn't want to be as miserable and hopeless as we! Woe is we! Woe is we! Nihilism forever!! Poor us - we are such victims!!! LETS JUST ALL GIVE UP AND GO TO SLEEP FOR FOUR OR EIGHT YEARS! MEBBE CRAWL INTO A HOLE SOMEWHERE THE CRATS CAN'T REACH!! Toss our votes into the gutter, click our heels three times and repeat to ourselves "there is no hope! Trump is evil! There is no hope! Trump is evil! There is no hope! Trump is evil! And it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever that we MIGHT BE WRONG and wasting our votes because of a misconception and giving in to our own morbid ruminations.
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Happy trails to you, until we meet again.
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we're together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.
Happy trails to you, 'till we meet again.
Some trails are happy ones,
Others are blue.
It's the way you ride the trail that counts,
Here's a happy one for you.
Happy trails to you, until we meet again.
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we're together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.
Happy trails to you, 'till we meet again! :tongue2:
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Morbid ruminations and fantasies such as these are common. Stating these desperate disturbed daydreams as realities does not confirm them as such. Simians thump their chests in a similar manner but would emulate your post if they could speak, surely.
That's the best you've got?
If one needs to explain to someone why Hill-O-Lies and Donald Trump are not identical, then no explanation could possibly suffice, the gap between the universe of that one and my own being unbridgeable by reasoned argument.
Aside from their equivalent unsuitability to hold the office they seek, on assorted grounds discussed nigh unto death, here and
elsewhere; and, aside from the fact that (paraphrasing, and with apologies to, Mary McCarthy) every word out of both their mouths
is a lie, including "and" and "the," the number one similarity between Donaldus Minimus and Hilarious Rodent Clinton---with slightly
different devils in slightly different details---is that each approaches the office from the mindset that the State remains the
first and last solution to every known ill or question in life, whether it is competent or constitutionally sanctioned to be so or remain
so. Their Constitutional knowledge is probably not sufficient to cover the head of a pin.
I intended to vote "None of These Candidates" from the moment their competition was made formal by convention assents, wishing
only that many more states aside from my Nevada offered the option, however they'd choose to phrase it. It's the only vote I can
cast for the presidency this year without wanting to retch.
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@EasyAce easily wins this.
The title says A Burma Shave poem, and that is exactly what he provided. Short, pithy, and in 5 signs.
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My my. It's just a cute little poem.
Wow. Scathing comeback. So substantive and scholarly. Little, yes. Poem, arguable - I suppose in elementary school it would pass with a "C". Cute, not really. Some people think pimples are cute or phlegm.
Happy Trails!!!
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:beer:
No, the 'Crats win. Any time fools who should rightly be friends reject each other. Tolkien's Silmarillion is his greater work. Some of our posters here should read it. It is largely about how the Good People of the West were tricked into destroying themselves. The parallels are striking. Nihilists...HOOOoooohh!!
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Wow. Scathing comeback. So substantive and scholarly. Little, yes. Poem, arguable - I suppose in elementary school it would pass with a "C". Cute, not really. Some people think pimples are cute or phlegm.
Happy Trails!!!
You actually EXPECTED A response to your incestuous offspring of a wall o text and a BALONEY sandwich you posted?
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No, the 'Crats win. Any time fools who should rightly be friends reject each other. Tolkien's Silmarillion is his greater work. Some of our posters here should read it. It is largely about how the Good People of the West were tricked into destroying themselves. The parallels are striking. Nihilists...HOOOoooohh!!
Is Nihilists your new cover because 'neocon' wasn't working?
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You wanted me to be scathing? But but...that's not what you said before. :shrug:
I'll admit it, I thirst for one substantive response to something instead of the juvenile nonsense and fluff that you and others pass off as serious. It's like punching at a wad of chewing gum. And besides, fanatic, what Earthly difference would my preference make to someone like you - who hate me with every fiber of your being because I have the audacity to strongly oppose your views and disagree with you?
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I'll admit it, I thirst for one substantive response to something instead of the juvenile nonsense and fluff that you and others pass off as serious. It's like punching at a wad of chewing gum. And besides, fanatic, what Earthly difference would my preference make to someone like you - who hate me with every fiber of your being because I have the audacity to strongly oppose your views and disagree with you?
You're learning. You're still wrong, but you're learning.
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I'll admit it, I thirst ...
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Just thought I'd throw out a tweet from Texas Ag Commissioner Sid Miller, he of the "Jesus Shot"
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So you don't like my Green Acres spin-off poem?
Yep. But I'm a traditionalist at heart. :beer:
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I just added poems to a poem thread. I believe the evidence reveals it is you who have the problem with dissent.
It's interesting to watch how quickly a cute little "humorous" poem (or so he claims) turns into a nasty I hate everyone who disagrees with me tirade.
The masks aren't taking nearly as quickly to fall off these Trump trolls, are they?
This one can't handle even the gentlest of criticism. First he whines and blames us, then he bares his fangs and digs in.
No surprises. We've seen it happen before.
Just not quite this fast. ***hair on fire ***hair on fire
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It's interesting to watch how quickly a cute little "humorous" poem (or so he claims) turns into a nasty I hate everyone who disagrees with me tirade.
The masks aren't taking nearly as quickly to fall off these Trump trolls, are they?
This one can't handle even the gentlest of criticism. First he whines and blames us, then he bares his fangs and digs in.
No surprises. We've seen it happen before.
Just not quite this fast. ***hair on fire ***hair on fire
He probably cut and pasted it from one of the trump white nationalist sites he frequents and thought it was funny. He runs his mouth like a boarding house toilet.
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This one can't handle even the gentlest of criticism. First he whines and blames us, then he bares his fangs and digs in.
LateForLunch? More like he's out to lunch. ;)
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LateForLunch? More like he's out to lunch. ;)
Bumpty dump the anti-trump bump
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Bumpty dump the anti-trump bump
You left out the anti-Hilarious bump. I'm against both, remember? :beer:
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Yes. I really pushed his buttons. I took it as a compliment. I worked for several minutes on that poem. LOL. I even had to look up the words to the Green Acres theme song just to get the lines right.
You certainly did push them. But I have a feeling he was a tad on edge to begin with.
Seriously...... I've never seen any Trumper erupt so quickly with so many different people.
And all because we didn't like his poetry. ^-^
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LateForLunch? More like he's out to lunch. ;)
Yep.
In more ways than one. ^-^
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You certainly did push them. But I have a feeling he was a tad on edge to begin with.
Seriously...... I've never seen any Trumper erupt so quickly with so many different people.
And all because we didn't like his poetry. ^-^
He's a Dem Plant.
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He's a Dem Plant.
Oh, yeah....... one a doze guys...... ^-^
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Oh, yeah....... one a doze guys...... ^-^
:silly:
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Now THAT is humorous! :beer:
:beer:
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He's a Dem Plant.
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He's a Dem Plant.
Possibly.
It is the hallmark of the raving Libtard and Statist to disparage everyone who disagrees with them as mentally unstable and insane while stating that those who agree with them or placate them are "thinking people".
Lateforlunch has demonstrated that Leftie trait perfectly.
On top of the Projection.
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Possibly.
It is the hallmark of the raving Libtard and Statist to disparage everyone who disagrees with them as mentally unstable and insane while stating that those who agree with them or placate them are "thinking people".
Lateforlunch has demonstrated that Leftie trait perfectly.
On top of the Projection.
Wow. That's quite a lot. Do you really believe all of that? Or maybe it just feels good to hate mindlessly...safer. Then one can continue to...
Never say
Never see
Never think and
Never do
Anything that's really new
Burma Shave
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"You can breathe, you can blink, you can cry. Hell, you're all gonna be doing that."
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@LateForLunch
But know a vote not to Trump
Is a vote for the Bitch.
So then, using this "logic", it must also follow that a vote not for Hillary is a vote for Trump.
So what's your problem?
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Make America Spiritual Again!
@musiclady @LateForLunch
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I want to thank all who participated in this thread.
It was my hope to see on display exactly what I saw – your true natures and soul (or lack of it) revealed for all to see. With only one or two exceptions (you know who you are and may God bless you for your classiness) you Anti-Trumpsters have outdone yourselves and not disappointed in the slightest on this thread! Hopefully others who may be undecided will recall this shameful spectacle when they vote.
We have seen the scornful, derisive self-assurance of the committed nihilists! Indulging in morbid fantasies and calling it “realism”. Foretelling the future and making absolutist positive declarations of other’s motives as if one can read minds in one moment, then condemning the candidate in the next as “obviously crazy”.
Peppering justifications for resigning from any meaningful participation in the political process with odd, self-contradicting flights of “logic” : first “the candidate is unpredictable and cannot be trusted,” then in the next breath swearing to God and all men, “we know with certainty exactly what he will do”. Absurdity heaped upon absurdity.
And worst of all, the mountains of abusive vituperation against those who disagree (no matter how politely, they are Cretinously insulted, marginalized, dehumanized) – these sort who accept gracious praise from tolerant others who support the candidate and yield their reasons on request! Amid their admissions of the candidate's flaws, admissions of inconsistent past behavior, admissions of imperfections scowling walk the condemners too self important to find humility or doubt in themselves! The jaded scoffers who hoard these concessions to bland reality like greedy villagers gathering lumps of metal to sequester, gloat, marvel over and finger in private ecstasy cooing and drooling.
And gathering together in a loose fraternity of hate – lofting up hopelessness like a banner of glory – GIVE UP!! They cry! THERE IS NO HOPE!!
Heroic.
A graceful powerful swan dive off a cliff edge onto the rocks! Like the Spartans of Thermopylae turned craven, shrugging their shoulders, and deriding their King - barking over their shoulders as they wander off to be overrun by the Persians one town at a time, “You can’t be trusted, Leonidas! You have skeletons in your closet and you give up too easily! We are going to wait for a perfect leader as we are perfect. Call us back when you are a good, worthy person as we are, but not before!! Until then, we will show you and all others so audacious as to venture to defend the land, our back!! We are too good for the likes of you We will find our glorious destiny in making seats of our hands!!
Selah.
Kudos! on how skillfully you've drawn them out. Attacking the messenger is the surest sign they've lost the argument.
Without looking, I know this spot on post will earn you nothing but more ridicule, lending further confirmation to your excellent, well-crafted analysis.
Again, it's been a pleasure reading your POV.
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hah hah true enough! But the question is "Why am I here?" There is a hint in the quoted post. BTW, yours were some of the more civilized posts, Oceander. I wonder if your fanatical anti-Trump brothers and sisters count that as a shameful thing and will turn on you eventually. Are they capable of learning as well as teaching since they do not lack for self-assurance? I suppose you shall see in time. I wish you and yours well, since it is likely we agree on all save the Trump issue and are both anti-Leftists tried and true!
You don't know him very well, do you? (I believe he may be back on his meds, that's why you've been treated to the civilized Oceander...)
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I want to thank all who participated in this thread.
It was my hope to see on display exactly what I saw – your true natures and soul (or lack of it) revealed for all to see. With only one or two exceptions (you know who you are and may God bless you for your classiness) you Anti-Trumpsters have outdone yourselves and not disappointed in the slightest on this thread! Hopefully others who may be undecided will recall this shameful spectacle when they vote.
We have seen the scornful, derisive self-assurance of the committed nihilists! Indulging in morbid fantasies and calling it “realism”. Foretelling the future and making absolutist positive declarations of other’s motives as if one can read minds in one moment, then condemning the candidate in the next as “obviously crazy”.
Peppering justifications for resigning from any meaningful participation in the political process with odd, self-contradicting flights of “logic” : first “the candidate is unpredictable and cannot be trusted,” then in the next breath swearing to God and all men, “we know with certainty exactly what he will do”. Absurdity heaped upon absurdity.
And worst of all, the mountains of abusive vituperation against those who disagree (no matter how politely, they are Cretinously insulted, marginalized, dehumanized) – these sort who accept gracious praise from tolerant others who support the candidate and yield their reasons on request! Amid their admissions of the candidate's flaws, admissions of inconsistent past behavior, admissions of imperfections scowling walk the condemners too self important to find humility or doubt in themselves! The jaded scoffers who hoard these concessions to bland reality like greedy villagers gathering lumps of metal to sequester, gloat, marvel over and finger in private ecstasy cooing and drooling.
And gathering together in a loose fraternity of hate – lofting up hopelessness like a banner of glory – GIVE UP!! They cry! THERE IS NO HOPE!!
Heroic.
A graceful powerful swan dive off a cliff edge onto the rocks! Like the Spartans of Thermopylae turned craven, shrugging their shoulders, and deriding their King - barking over their shoulders as they wander off to be overrun by the Persians one town at a time, “You can’t be trusted, Leonidas! You have skeletons in your closet and you give up too easily! We are going to wait for a perfect leader as we are perfect. Call us back when you are a good, worthy person as we are, but not before!! Until then, we will show you and all others so audacious as to venture to defend the land, our back!! We are too good for the likes of you We will find our glorious destiny in making seats of our hands!!
Selah.
@LateForLunch
I don't think I've seen such over-the-top florid wordiness since the last Bad Writing Contest. Like to hear yourself talk much?
Well, I guess you do, since you admitted your thread was an attempt to troll.
Allow me to correct you---when it comes to Trump, I don't need to be drawn out, revealed, or any of that. My opinion where he's concerned is right out in the open. You only need to ask.
You see, I'm not ashamed of my refusal to support that disgusting, repellent, pathetically ignorant and incompetent progressive sexual abuser and pathological liar. Why would I be? I'm surprised that more of you aren't ashamed of supporting such a human garbage dumpster.
Regardless, your tantrum changes nothing.
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"You can breathe, you can blink, you can cry. Hell, you're all gonna be doing that."
I recognize that quote - it's from the controversial new episode of Walking Dead. 'Not sure how it applies to this thread but somehow it fits. There are various interpretations possible. Cryptic. Nothing definite. The dramatic performances in that episode were good. Riveting. Disturbing.
This thread also performed well. In only three days, there have been 144 posts with over 1,200 views (no doubt there will be many, many more long after I post this final post myself). Mission accomplished. Just as the anti-Trumpsters have been effectively manipulated by the 'Crats - thinking that they are acting of their own volition in having their votes neutralized, so I have manipulated all of you: Luis Gonzales, Easy Ace, Invar, Music Lady, Rat Patrol, Catherine of Aragon (who could have stopped in her post above with "I don't think" and been more correct) and so many others into posting here...not because I ever had any intention of or illusions of using reasoned argument to get any of you to change your positions, but because I wanted anyone interested to see exactly what mindless hatred looks like.
Not that you are bad people. I know that you aren't. But there is something unhealthy about all of you. None of you really care about beating Hill-O-Lies. This Trump hatred is not about politics, it's about your psyches. Finding moral superiority - and safety, but from...what?
None of you are really convinced that there is no realistic chance that Trump will be a significantly better president. None of you really believe beyond all reasonable doubt that Donald Trump is insane, or terribly dangerous (especially not more dangerous than Hill-O-Lies). But because you have said that you do believe all of those things and so many more - and you are so insecure in yourselves, you will never, ever admit any of that - most of all to yourselves. This is blatantly obvious to everyone observing this thread - except to yourselves. This hatred for Trump and those who support him is about psychological issues not political ones. So it is for many who curse and gnash their teeth so...energetically. Over a humorous poem.
Extroversion is the tendency to look outward for cause or blame for conflict, cause or blame. This is what is happening here. It's not healthy because it hurts the ones who hate most. But we can't seem to help ourselves because on one level it feels VERY safe to hate - safer than to care about others. To take refuge in mindless, meaningless unbridled pure hatred - us against them- as if we are separate. That feeling...it's what insanity probably feels like- that self assured conviction that "I owe nothing to the universe". Not the bogus variety, not the Bush League variety - the real thing - dangerous insanity. The sort that makes us feel great about doing things we know or suspect to be morally wrong because deep down there is an overwhelming urge - like taking a crap.
We FEEL that we MUST do these things. Say these things. Defend these things...or something terrible, intolerable will happen. And that terrible intolerable thing is this: We will experience loss-of-face...loss of esteem...be...unlovable. So the circle continues to avoid feelings of humiliation until one day...something changes...not because someone outside causes it (never)...but because something inside clicks. Something inside BURNS OUT. All of the complex, interrelated illusions cannot be sustained. The defenses collapse and reality floods in. Some day.
"You can breathe, you can blink, you can cry. Hell, you're all gonna be doing that."
But we are not killed. We think we will when the defenses collapse. Hell, we KNOW we will. But miraculously, we survive. Then living can begin again...because the hate has lost. Freedom from hate is the freedom of Salvation. it FEELS like Salvation.
I don't hate a single one of you. If I saw you on the street, I would most likely believe you to be great people and I'd want to know you. I wouldn't give a damn about your politics.
Opinions are not things. Opinions are not physical things. Opinions are what we hope to be and what we fear that we are...they are like Raptor eggs. We defend them as if they are the most precious things in the world. But opinions should be like turds - flushed away when we don't need them any more. May God cleanse all of us of our opinions.
This post is for me...mostly. Not for the observers who are following the debate and most definitely not for those who believe that I am evil, or stupid or wicked or a plant from the Democrats or whatever nonsense has been stated about me that is more humorous than disturbing. This is the last post from me on this thread.
It was fun (especially for you I have named above and your fellow mindless mob members). I forgive you for your attempts (vain as they were) to strike out at me and cause me hurt or harm. I understand why you did it - all of it.
But I wonder...
Do you!?!
Now, let the derisive posts issue forth! Let the denigrating expostulations, the scathing rebukes, the insightful droll recriminations! The oh-so sharp and piercing indictments of character. The witticisms. The aphorisms. The tomfoolery. The leveling of invective. All of it. Let it all loose. Like a huge bowel movement.
The only difference is...after indulging in that sort of orgy of sneering unbridled hatred for hatred's sake, does it really feel better for very long? Or does the emptiness seep back in...slowly but surely...over the minutes and hours and days...until there is only...silence again. Mob dispersed. Enemy vanquished (I will be vanquished because I will not defend myself against such lunacy, no more than a psychiatrist in a mental ward defends against accusations of mind-control through radio waves).
I shall be defeated. I am defeated. REJOICE!! The enemy is gone.
Now what?
(firing of the starting pistol) Selah! Thanks again to everyone for their participation.
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@LateForLunch
your fellow mindless mob members
LOL...just LOL.
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Not that you are bad people. I know that you aren't. But there is something unhealthy about all of you. None of you really care about beating Hill-O-Lies. This Trump hatred is not about politics, it's about your psyches. Finding moral superiority - and safety, but from...what?
None of you are really convinced that there is no realistic chance that Trump will be a significantly better president. None of you really believe beyond all reasonable doubt that Donald Trump is insane, or terribly dangerous (especially not more dangerous than Hill-O-Lies). But because you have said that you do believe all of those things and so many more - and you are so insecure in yourselves, you will never, ever admit any of that - most of all to yourselves. This is blatantly obvious to everyone observing this thread - except to yourselves. This hatred for Trump and those who support him is about psychological issues not political ones. So it is for many who curse and gnash their teeth so...energetically. Over a humorous poem.
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I hesitated to edit this down to just those two paragraphs. In it's entirety it's a gem to read.
You use the English language every well. English is my second language and so I always marvel at those with command of it.
Anyway, sometimes pithy works, too. Donald Trump is a master at communication and branding, despite his malaprops. But, Mr. Trump is a doer, not a talker like Hillary Clinton.
And so I offer my addendum to your eloquent tome: "You just can't fix stupid."
And to #NeverTrump I say, Hillary Clinton extends a heartfelt "Thank You" to each and every one of you. May the peace and joy of the coming season of my administration be yours.
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Selah!
I don't think it means what you think it means.
se·lah
ˈsēlə,
exclamation
(in the Bible) occurring frequently at the end of a verse in Psalms and Habakkuk, probably as a musical direction.
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Selah -
a word frequently found in the Book of Psalms, and also in Habakkuk 3:9 Habakkuk 3:13 , about seventy-four times in all in Scripture. Its meaning is doubtful. Some interpret it as meaning "silence" or "pause;" others, "end," "a louder strain," "piano," etc. The LXX. render the word by daplasma i.e., "a division."
I can't sing that wall o text excoriation of other who think differently than you do.
Did you mean Shalom?
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Absolute nonsense. I have forgotten more about the electoral process than you have even known, my insulting, fanatically anti-Trump, irrational friend.
Well, at that point you really do know nothing. Have a nice day. :seeya:
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Wow. That's quite a lot. Do you really believe all of that? Or maybe it just feels good to hate mindlessly...safer.
Not only do I believe it - you keep demonstrating it.
It is also a hallmark of the Leftists/Statist self-identifying intellectually superior and hubris internet bully to not only accuse those who disagree with you with being unable to think, but to also charge those who refuse to agree with you with 'hate' and 'hate mindlessly' as you so adeptly demonstrated just now.
You are a classic projectionist, accusing others of what you, yourself are doing.
Also a trait of the Liberal Left, or those who use Alinsky as a blueprint.
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I don't think it means what you think it means.
se·lah
ˈsēlə,
exclamation
(in the Bible) occurring frequently at the end of a verse in Psalms and Habakkuk, probably as a musical direction.
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Selah -
a word frequently found in the Book of Psalms, and also in Habakkuk 3:9 Habakkuk 3:13 , about seventy-four times in all in Scripture. Its meaning is doubtful. Some interpret it as meaning "silence" or "pause;" others, "end," "a louder strain," "piano," etc. The LXX. render the word by daplasma i.e., "a division."
I can't sing that wall o text excoriation of other who think differently than you do.
Did you mean Shalom?
He is so filled with his own hubris, he thinks what he writes is scripture.
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He is so filled with his own hubris, he thinks what he writes is scripture.
Maybe so, but since it isn't my mind keeps seeing Selah and thinking "more cowbell".
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This thread also performed well. ….Mission accomplished. ...the anti-Trumpsters have been effectively manipulated by the 'Crats - thinking that they are acting of their own volition in having their votes neutralized, so I have manipulated all of you...and so many others into posting here...not because I ever had any intention of or illusions of using reasoned argument to get any of you to change your positions, but because I wanted anyone interested to see exactly what mindless hatred looks like.
...there is something unhealthy about all of you. ...This Trump hatred is not about politics, it's about your psyches. ...This hatred for Trump and those who support him is about psychological issues not political ones.
This post is for me...mostly. ...This is the last post from me on this thread.
It was fun (especially for you I have named above and your fellow mindless mob members).
The pure self-admitted definition of an internet troll - by his own hand.
What you also find in reading his screed - is that like all Statists/Communists/Socialists/Thugs and worse - anyone who does not love and adore his fuhrer, is mentally sick and unhealthy.
Again, their view of liberty is as thin as their words, and such people are the very ones who applaud the cleansing of those whom they have decreed to be mentally sick and unstable from society.
Worship their leader - or be declared mentally sick.
Not to mention his entire purpose for being here is to insult, manipulate, castigate and hear himself pontificate about how clever he is at manipulating all of you.
Fruits and tools of Satan BTW.
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The pure self-admitted definition of an internet troll - by his own hand.
What you also find in reading his screed - is that like all Statists/Communists/Socialists/Thugs and worse - anyone who does not love and adore his fuhrer, is mentally sick and unhealthy.
Again, their view of liberty is as thin as their words, and such people are the very ones who applaud the cleansing of those whom they have decreed to be mentally sick and unstable from society.
Worship their leader - or be declared mentally sick.
Not to mention his entire purpose for being here is to insult, manipulate, castigate and hear himself pontificate about how clever he is at manipulating all of you.
Fruits and tools of Satan BTW.
The point and laugh factor alone made this thread worth reading once. But I'm over it now. After decades of observing their 'type'....typically superior-minded liberal trolls bore the hell out of me now. [yawn]
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Andy you nitwit. I posted it with paragraphs and the system didn't accept it, but instead reorganized it into a compact unit when you quoted it. Do try not to be a dolt, my good man!
@LateForLunch
"My good man", lol? Who talks like this? Are you someone's butler?
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@LateForLunch
hah hah more insults. I doubt that you love much beyond seeing your own opinions and those like them in print. Insults: the last refuge and first impulse of people with small intellect -
"Andy you nitwit"
"Do try not to be a dolt, my good man!"
Take your own advice, Jeeves. And bring me my lunch.
why embrace that Cub fan? Cretinous insults and nothing but Cretinous insults. Bravo! Your towering intellect must be the marvel of your neighborhood. BTW, the World Series ends today. Surely unlike your pointless, ill-mannered, Cyclopian miscreant sadism.
You guys do realize this guy is a groundsman for a cemetery, sitting in the shed on his breaks with a dictionary beside him, right? He was fun for a while but he's edging over into parody now. Too obvious.
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If this thread keeps up, I'm going to have to write another poem. Now no one wants that, do they?
@RAT Patrol
I think we might, my good man! Er, woman...er...
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I recognize that quote - it's from the controversial new episode of Walking Dead. 'Not sure how it applies to this thread but somehow it fits. There are various interpretations possible. Cryptic. Nothing definite. The dramatic performances in that episode were good. Riveting. Disturbing.
This thread also performed well. In only three days, there have been 144 posts with over 1,200 views (no doubt there will be many, many more long after I post this final post myself). Mission accomplished. Just as the anti-Trumpsters have been effectively manipulated by the 'Crats - thinking that they are acting of their own volition in having their votes neutralized, so I have manipulated all of you: Luis Gonzales, Easy Ace, Invar, Music Lady, Rat Patrol, Catherine of Aragon (who could have stopped in her post above with "I don't think" and been more correct) and so many others into posting here...not because I ever had any intention of or illusions of using reasoned argument to get any of you to change your positions, but because I wanted anyone interested to see exactly what mindless hatred looks like.
Not that you are bad people. I know that you aren't. But there is something unhealthy about all of you. None of you really care about beating Hill-O-Lies. This Trump hatred is not about politics, it's about your psyches. Finding moral superiority - and safety, but from...what?
None of you are really convinced that there is no realistic chance that Trump will be a significantly better president. None of you really believe beyond all reasonable doubt that Donald Trump is insane, or terribly dangerous (especially not more dangerous than Hill-O-Lies). But because you have said that you do believe all of those things and so many more - and you are so insecure in yourselves, you will never, ever admit any of that - most of all to yourselves. This is blatantly obvious to everyone observing this thread - except to yourselves. This hatred for Trump and those who support him is about psychological issues not political ones. So it is for many who curse and gnash their teeth so...energetically. Over a humorous poem.
Extroversion is the tendency to look outward for cause or blame for conflict, cause or blame. This is what is happening here. It's not healthy because it hurts the ones who hate most. But we can't seem to help ourselves because on one level it feels VERY safe to hate - safer than to care about others. To take refuge in mindless, meaningless unbridled pure hatred - us against them- as if we are separate. That feeling...it's what insanity probably feels like- that self assured conviction that "I owe nothing to the universe". Not the bogus variety, not the Bush League variety - the real thing - dangerous insanity. The sort that makes us feel great about doing things we know or suspect to be morally wrong because deep down there is an overwhelming urge - like taking a crap.
We FEEL that we MUST do these things. Say these things. Defend these things...or something terrible, intolerable will happen. And that terrible intolerable thing is this: We will experience loss-of-face...loss of esteem...be...unlovable. So the circle continues to avoid feelings of humiliation until one day...something changes...not because someone outside causes it (never)...but because something inside clicks. Something inside BURNS OUT. All of the complex, interrelated illusions cannot be sustained. The defenses collapse and reality floods in. Some day.
"You can breathe, you can blink, you can cry. Hell, you're all gonna be doing that."
But we are not killed. We think we will when the defenses collapse. Hell, we KNOW we will. But miraculously, we survive. Then living can begin again...because the hate has lost. Freedom from hate is the freedom of Salvation. it FEELS like Salvation.
I don't hate a single one of you. If I saw you on the street, I would most likely believe you to be great people and I'd want to know you. I wouldn't give a damn about your politics.
Opinions are not things. Opinions are not physical things. Opinions are what we hope to be and what we fear that we are...they are like Raptor eggs. We defend them as if they are the most precious things in the world. But opinions should be like turds - flushed away when we don't need them any more. May God cleanse all of us of our opinions.
This post is for me...mostly. Not for the observers who are following the debate and most definitely not for those who believe that I am evil, or stupid or wicked or a plant from the Democrats or whatever nonsense has been stated about me that is more humorous than disturbing. This is the last post from me on this thread.
It was fun (especially for you I have named above and your fellow mindless mob members). I forgive you for your attempts (vain as they were) to strike out at me and cause me hurt or harm. I understand why you did it - all of it.
But I wonder...
Do you!?!
Now, let the derisive posts issue forth! Let the denigrating expostulations, the scathing rebukes, the insightful droll recriminations! The oh-so sharp and piercing indictments of character. The witticisms. The aphorisms. The tomfoolery. The leveling of invective. All of it. Let it all loose. Like a huge bowel movement.
The only difference is...after indulging in that sort of orgy of sneering unbridled hatred for hatred's sake, does it really feel better for very long? Or does the emptiness seep back in...slowly but surely...over the minutes and hours and days...until there is only...silence again. Mob dispersed. Enemy vanquished (I will be vanquished because I will not defend myself against such lunacy, no more than a psychiatrist in a mental ward defends against accusations of mind-control through radio waves).
I shall be defeated. I am defeated. REJOICE!! The enemy is gone.
Now what?
(firing of the starting pistol) Selah! Thanks again to everyone for their participation.
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Motes in eyes and all that nonsense. What's the difference between a Trump supporter and a troll? The troll was born that way; the Trumpist chose to be that way.
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Just saw on twitter that the woman who accused Trump of child rape will hold a press conference today.
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There once was a poster named LateForLunch
Who would cuss and curse and insult a bunch
N'er Trumpers cried foul
LateForLunch had a cow
Now this thread a just punch and counterpunch
What fun.
Very good, lol!
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Next week when we vote
We'll all say "it sucks"
Because we will choose
From a menu of schmucks.
Burma Shave
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Next week when we vote
We'll all say "it sucks"
Because we will choose
From a menu of schmucks.
Burma Shave
Love it, lol.
(But hey, Evan McMullin is on my ballot, so I'm good). ^-^
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Just saw on twitter that the woman who accused Trump of child rape will hold a press conference today.
Really....can't find anything
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@LateForLunch
"My good man", lol? Who talks like this? Are you someone's butler?
He's trying to intimidate with his Readers' Digest command of the English language. He just illustrates himself the larger hubris troll he is.
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Really....can't find anything
@mystery-ak
Steve Deace had it and now this:
http://therightscoop.com/breaking-woman-accusing-trump-child-rape-hold-press-conference/ (http://therightscoop.com/breaking-woman-accusing-trump-child-rape-hold-press-conference/)
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The more I look at him, the less I like him. But hey...he's a choice other than Trump or Hillary. So this is how it is for me on all official canddiates:
Hillary
Well Trump is not Hillary
Well Johnson is not Trump or Hillary
Well McMullin is not Trump or Hillary or Johnson
Well Castle is not McMullin or Trump or Hillary or Johnson
Give me someone to vote FOR, not a bunch of people to vote against.
@RAT Patrol
It's the reverse for me; every time I've heard McMullin interviewed, I've liked what I heard more and more. He was on the radio again today.
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Well I am glad you found a candidate you like. I'm done with examining him. He is a definite NO for me. Nothing to do with Mormonism, but he is very Mitt Romneyish to me, only without the experience or family life and good hair. I do not think he is qualified for the position.
Okay.
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Motes in eyes and all that nonsense. What's the difference between a Trump supporter and a troll? The troll was born that way; the Trumpist chose to be that way.
I'm not sure he chose to be this way. Based on this post he just may be posting from an asylum.
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I'm not sure he chose to be this way. Based on this post he just may be posting from an asylum.
He's busy pointing this thread and his comments out to his thug pals on another forum, chortling with glee as to how he 'played us' and got us to 'reveal' all the nasties he ascribes to us.
He has his reward.
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He's busy pointing this thread and his comments out to his thug pals on another forum, chortling with glee as to how he 'played us' and got us to 'reveal' all the nasties he ascribes to us.
He has his reward.
His reward is to behave as badly as he claims we do.
And if he thinks he played us he's the dumbest person on the face of the earth.
Which I suspected from the moment he posted this third grade level poem.
Trolls really are amusing in a mind numbingly idiotic way....
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His reward is to behave as badly as he claims we do.
And if he thinks he played us he's the dumbest person on the face of the earth.
Which I suspected from the moment he posted this third grade level poem.
Trolls really are amusing in a mind numbingly idiotic way....
His own words outed himself as a troll, and he was happy to flaunt that fact in a lengthy word salad he assumed would sail over our heads.
He is not as clever as he thinks he is.
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He's busy pointing this thread and his comments out to his thug pals on another forum, chortling with glee as to how he 'played us' and got us to 'reveal' all the nasties he ascribes to us.
He has his reward.
He's JOMAH. (yawn). We've seen his ilk before.
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Nope. He's not.
However, something my Dad says comes to mind:
"Who is the bigger fool? Those who stir shit, or those who get stirred?"
Some of the poems were fun though.
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McMullin is a wannabe spoiler with no chance of winning Utah...Republicans will come home in droves come election, if for no other reason than their strong desire to stop the Clinton's from doing any more damage to our republic.
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He's JOMAH. (yawn). We've seen his ilk before.
Do we really need an obvious troll to have posting privs?
@Mod1 @Mod2 @MOD3 and @Mod5
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McMullin is a wannabe spoiler with no chance of winning Utah...Republicans will come home in droves come election
Republicans and Avg Joe Sixpack might - actual principled Constitutional Conservatives will not. Your party is no longer our home, we're done with battered wife syndrome and issued your party the divorce papers signed and notarized.
if for no other reason than their strong desire to stop the Clinton's from doing any more damage to our republic.
Your party and their oligarchy not only enabled the denouement of the Republic - they funded it's abolishment and pretend to be an opposition party they are not.
Trump is the Nationalist Fascist alternative to the Communists in whom you so fear.
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McMullin is a wannabe spoiler with no chance of winning Utah...Republicans will come home in droves come election, if for no other reason than their strong desire to stop the Clinton's from doing any more damage to our republic.
McMullin is likely to win Utah. 6 electoral votes that Trump won't get.
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Do we really need an obvious troll to have posting privs?
@Mod1 @Mod2 @MOD3 and @Mod5
Oh I thought he was harmless, if not amusing.
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McMullin is a wannabe spoiler with no chance of winning Utah...
I reckon we're going to find out. Republicans will come home in droves come election,
Those who haven't left, you mean, and we are legion. Y'all have lots of openings in the row of 'Conservative' quarters on the plantation. ...if for no other reason than their strong desire to stop the Clinton's from doing any more damage to our republic.
Well, now, I reckon that will be up to the 'pubbies in Congress, at least those who stay there. We'll see if they are worth an Obama. I have no reason to believe most of them will provide any resistance at all.
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Late wrote above:
"A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates."
The vast majority of the ne'ertrumpers believe that Cruz should have been the candidate.
For them, no other choice would have been acceptable, or could be acceptable.
It sticks in their craw that Trump bested Cruz for the nomination.
But if Mr. Cruz was such a great debater of the conservative cause, why didn't he whip Trump (and the other candidates) during the nomination process?
I've nothing against Cruz, but he would have had as much of a chance of beating Clinton as did Barry Goldwater vs. Lyndon Johnson (who in political temperament and values was probably closely-matched to hillary). The democrats would have -destroyed- him on the natural-born citizenship issue.
Mr. Cruz would be more suited to becoming Senate Majority Leader. We need someone like him in that capacity.
But he's never going to be president.
Better get used to that.
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Late wrote above:
"A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates."
The vast majority of the ne'ertrumpers believe that Cruz should have been the candidate.
For them, no other choice would have been acceptable, or could be acceptable.
It sticks in their craw that Trump bested Cruz for the nomination.
But if Mr. Cruz was such a great debater of the conservative cause, why didn't he whip Trump (and the other candidates) during the nomination process?
I've nothing against Cruz, but he would have had as much of a chance of beating Clinton as did Barry Goldwater vs. Lyndon Johnson (who in political temperament and values was probably closely-matched to hillary). The democrats would have -destroyed- him on the natural-born citizenship issue.
Mr. Cruz would be more suited to becoming Senate Majority Leader. We need someone like him in that capacity.
But he's never going to be president.
Better get used to that.
You Just. Don't. Get. It.
My dislike of Trump is only about Trump, no one else.
So color me a "lame idealist" if it makes you happy.
I won't vote for that man to be POTUS, and I won't vote for that wrteched woman to be either.
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Late wrote above:
"A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates."
The vast majority of the ne'ertrumpers believe that Cruz should have been the candidate.
For them, no other choice would have been acceptable, or could be acceptable.
It sticks in their craw that Trump bested Cruz for the nomination.
But if Mr. Cruz was such a great debater of the conservative cause, why didn't he whip Trump (and the other candidates) during the nomination process?
I've nothing against Cruz, but he would have had as much of a chance of beating Clinton as did Barry Goldwater vs. Lyndon Johnson (who in political temperament and values was probably closely-matched to hillary). The democrats would have -destroyed- him on the natural-born citizenship issue.
Mr. Cruz would be more suited to becoming Senate Majority Leader. We need someone like him in that capacity.
But he's never going to be president.
Better get used to that.
Wowee a mind reader.
Fanfare please for...
The Great Presumpto
sees all knows nothing.
Can you tell the future too? Lucky lotto numbers?
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You Just. Don't. Get. It.
My dislike of Trump is only about Trump, no one else.
So color me a "lame idealist" if it makes you happy.
I won't vote for that man to be POTUS, and I won't vote for that wrteched woman to be either.
In today's word being a lame idealist is a great honor.
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The vast majority of the ne'ertrumpers believe that Cruz should have been the candidate.
That's not only right, but true. Cruz, in Conservative terms, is head-and-shoulders above all the rest.
For them, no other choice would have been acceptable, or could be acceptable.
Not true. Most of us have a candidate right now - A Conservative one.
It sticks in their craw that Trump bested Cruz for the nomination.
But if Mr. Cruz was such a great debater of the conservative cause, why didn't he whip Trump (and the other candidates) during the nomination process?
The only thing that sticks in my craw is Trumps ill-advised campaign of slander and lies. No one could return his onslaught without resorting to the very same thing - The problem is that the tactic is sure to divide voters and cause rancor (even as it has done). It isn't a success to 'win' the party primary by leaving it in shambles. A divided voter base won't win the general.
That's why the rest of the candidates tried to remain cordial and polite, within reason. Sooner or later, you have to have those people and their voters, in order to compete in the general.
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McMullin is likely to win Utah. 6 electoral votes that Trump won't get.
This just in...
Utah President: Trump 42%, Clinton 31%, McMullin 21% (Rasmussen)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3488693/posts
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Tell me sink, don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
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In today's word being a lame idealist is a great honor.
I think "lame" is mean spirited and hurtful. Not sure about "idealist". Context is important there, I think.
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Anticipating your comeback: these numbers are well beyond the margin of error....
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I think "lame" is mean spirited and hurtful. Not sure about "idealist". Context is important there, I think.
I was just about to use the word "lame" in my above response to sink, but changed it at the last minute. I hadn't see your post yet. Isn't that an interesting coincidence? I was about to say "lame comeback" but thought better.
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Tell me sink, don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
Rasmussen.
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...well beyond the margin of error, or polling company incompetence or shenanigans. In other words, Trump wins Utah.
You were wrong again #NeverTrump.
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Yes. It is just a lame label from a lame cultist.
Didn't lame, like, quite being, like a useful insult, like 15 years ago anyways. :whistle:
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Didn't lame, like, quite being, like a useful insult, like 15 years ago anyways. :whistle:
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Trump won Dixie like no non-incumbent has in memory, someone call him a yankee?
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Trump won Dixie like no non-incumbent has in memory, someone call him a yankee?
Burn, baby burn? Reminiscent of Sherman?
Oh yeah, the Carpetbagger coalition.
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I think "lame" is mean spirited and hurtful. Not sure about "idealist". Context is important there, I think.
That was a lame attempt at even lamer humor.
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That was a lame attempt at even lamer humor.
Just keep limping along, you'll be back on your feet in no time.
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Just keep limping along, you'll be back on your feet in no time.
Heh. I see what you did there. Now that was lame.
:beer:
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Lame humor. That reminds me of this.
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Lame humor. That reminds me of this.
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Does this mean Burma Shave is the new Dem Plants?
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Does this mean Burma Shave is the new Dem Plants?
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As I mentioned in my last substantive post about three pages and an ocean of spewing of sadistic, deranged, embarrassingly odd Anti-Trumpster hate-back, I knew that there would continue to be a flood of outraged, desperate defenses, sneering over-the-top accusations, hair-on-fire vituperations all designed to keep reality at bay and ameliorate the well-deserved sense of shame that the Anti-Trumpster brigade very naturally feel about throwing their voting franchise away in one huge collective vomit/defecation tantrum.
Here is a topically cogent reality, restated: There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.
Now, let's review how the barking, grunting, psychotic hate-fest all began (and has gone one for what now? 200 posts!!) because I, a genuine conservative, (as I think most of you anti-Trumpsters are not) posted a humorous poem critical of the anti-Trump movement , then had the audacity to respond substantively to a few of the vituperations with emphatic refutations/explanations etc. That's all I did. That's it.
The subsequent lunacy directed at me, my character and my intentions in posting that poem has undergone a fascinating evolution. At first the accusations were merely that I was wrong, wrong-headed, of deficient character/intellect, very foolish or oblivious. Then later, when I ignored most of these odd ejaculations from the volcano of lunacy that the anti-Trumpsters put forth (because frankly they were too numerous and ever-changing to respond to item-by-item without a full-time clerical staff to assist me), the flood became gradually more odd.
Most-lately I am a "plant" from the democrats (who stridently OPPOSE Mr. Trump the last time I checked, as do all of you nice people). So again, there is a serious cognitive dissonance in this specific vituperation. Get it together folks! How on Earth is any undecided reader to be convinced that you all have your fingers firmly on the pulse of reality when you can't get your vituperations to align with a consistent, progressive trajectory?
And I'm STILL waiting for someone to explain how Trump can be horribly inconsistent and also horribly predictable at the same time!!! You're all not sure what he will do from moment to moment, but you know for an absolute certainty that he will be a horrible president - even as you admit that you don't have any idea what he will actually do!! As far as I have had it explained to me by those who deal in reality, one cannot be both incorrigibly, chronically, UNpredictable and also incorrigibly, chronically predictable at the same time. It must (at least in this universe) be one or the other.
So, which is it !?! A substantive response from someone who manages to stop spewing mindless, ridiculous overly-angry nonsense, wipe off the froth and the slobber long enough to post a consistent, coherent sentence would be appreciated.
There was a woman in the jungle
And a monkey on a tree.
The Anti-Trump Brigade it was followin' me.
They can't stop what they're doing
'Cause they've caught a disease
It's called "schizoaffective rage"
'Senses 'taken their leave their leave,
Their leave, their leave, their leave...
(LFL fires off staring pistol for a third time).
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Here is a topically cogent reality, restated: There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.
And therein lies your problem.
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@LateForLunch
What color is the sky in your world?
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@LateForLunch
What color is the sky in your world?
I think he may be looking up at a padded ceiling.
This last rant is clearly not founded in reality.
What is his purpose here anyway? He just looks crazy to rational people..........
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wow that didn't take long! Posting to you all is like pushing the button on a vomit-dispensing machine! A more predictable group I have rarely if ever seen!
bumpty dumpty the Anti-Trumpster bump!
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wow that didn't take long! Posting to you all is like pushing the button on a vomit-dispensing machine! A more predictable group I have rarely if ever seen!
bumpty dumpty the Anti-Trumpster bump!
Just lucky timing.
I happened to get online, and there was your hatred staring me in the face.
Anger management counseling might help you out, son.
You're as hostile as anyone I've ever seen on this forum.
And that's really saying something.
(Maybe just a Calgon bubble bath will get you started with the calming down process).
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LFL is funny. "Ze" is so amazed at the predictability of people. Hmm....let's see...spewing hatred toward others gets a fast responds. How utterly shocking! LOL :shrug:
He's playing games, but the only person who's falling for his schtick is himself.
Besides, didn't he say he had posted his last post on this thread? Guess he had more hate filled condescension to spew.
Sad fellow..... and in love with a sexual predator. Must be a tough existence... **nononono*
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As I mentioned in my last substantive post about three pages and an ocean of spewing of sadistic, deranged, embarrassingly odd Anti-Trumpster hate-back, I knew that there would continue to be a flood of outraged, desperate defenses, sneering over-the-top accusations, hair-on-fire vituperations all designed to keep reality at bay and ameliorate the well-deserved sense of shame that the Anti-Trumpster brigade very naturally feel about throwing their voting franchise away in one huge collective vomit/defecation tantrum.
First you make the flawed assumption that those who advocate a return of the Federal Government to within the scope of its original Constitutional Duties and powers had/have any "voting franchise" with the GOP or the current POTUS candidate. To assume that a group which has been routinely ignored with the exception of entreaties for donations and empty promises in election years is in any way enfranchised is in error.
Let me put it in another way. If you want steak, continuing to go to McDonald's or Hardees isn't going to load you up with a porterhouse. Claiming that either of those concerns is operating in your best interest when what you want simply isn't on the menu is ludicrous.
You want fries wit' dat?
Here is a topically cogent reality, restated: There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.
Okay, there is no way anyone could convince you. I'll leave "normal" human beings out of this, partly because "normal" is a statistical phenomenon dependent on the study group, and because you are presuming to speak for that group without having the ability, I assume, to read their minds. Now, let's review how the barking, grunting, psychotic hate-fest all began (and has gone one for what now? 200 posts!!) because I, a genuine conservative, (as I think most of you anti-Trumpsters are not) posted a humorous poem critical of the anti-Trump movement , then had the audacity to respond substantively to a few of the vituperations with emphatic refutations/explanations etc. That's all I did. That's it.
The subsequent lunacy directed at me, my character and my intentions in posting that poem has undergone a fascinating evolution. At first the accusations were merely that I was wrong, wrong-headed, of deficient character/intellect, very foolish or oblivious. Then later, when I ignored most of these odd ejaculations from the volcano of lunacy that the anti-Trumpsters put forth (because frankly they were too numerous and ever-changing to respond to item-by-item without a full-time clerical staff to assist me), the flood became gradually more odd.
Some saw it as a novelty, some as another poke in already irritated sides by a group of people who just won't quit with their long history of vituperation, despite having been civilly dealt with, who have driven people from web fora, who have physically threatened in some instances people for harboring a different political opinion. By embracing that vituperation and directing it at folks who won't vote for that guy, you place yourself in league with them and that willful association makes you as guilty as other participants in the eyes of those who have been so accosted ad infinitum this election season. If you don't want to be counted in those ranks, don't wear the uniform, but if you do, you can expect to be treated as an adversary.
Most-lately I am a "plant" from the democrats (who stridently OPPOSE Mr. Trump the last time I checked, as do all of you nice people). So again, there is a serious cognitive dissonance in this specific vituperation. Get it together folks! How on Earth is any undecided reader to be convinced that you all have your fingers firmly on the pulse of reality when you can't get your vituperations to align with a consistent, progressive trajectory?
Ah yes, many conspiracy theories abound where the actions of people don't flange up with their stated intent. If you support Trump, why the incessant attacks on those who do not? No attempt to woo, no flowers and chocolates, just a 'grab them by the netherbits' approach? One of the most consistent inconsistencies of the Trump campaign is the unending attack on those who at first expressed reservations about voting for Trump. Trump supporters did as much or more than their candidate to create the #NEVERTRUMP movement, by alienating, berating, and threatening people they should have been trying to convince to vote for their candidate. Maybe that's a "New York Values" thingy, where you threaten those who won't come along willingly to whack them in line, but it just doesn't play with people who have a long history of not being intimidated, and that's a common characteristic in flyover country. We get our back up when someone threatens us, and insulting us is no way to gain our support, heartfelt or grudging.And I'm STILL waiting for someone to explain how Trump can be horribly inconsistent and also horribly predictable at the same time!!! You're all not sure what he will do from moment to moment, but you know for an absolute certainty that he will be a horrible president - even as you admit that you don't have any idea what he will actually do!! As far as I have had it explained to me by those who deal in reality, one cannot be both incorrigibly, chronically, UNpredictable and also incorrigibly, chronically predictable at the same time. It must (at least in this universe) be one or the other.
Look at it as a Heisenberg coefficient. Some things are predictably unpredictable, that is they will, with a 99.99% probability remain within certain parameters, but cannot be predicted to be in a certain spot at a given time.
Trump has a much lower predictability rate, which makes him predictably UNpredictable--to a point.
If you can't wrap your head around that, well, I can't help you.
Even with things like nuclear decay, there is a set of statistical parameters which render the process predictable. In Trump's case, though instead of billions of atoms acting as a statistical group, there is one person, one person who might have at his control things like strategic forces (nuclear), naval assets, ICBMs, the foreign policy of our nation, and other critical systems at his behest, who is predictably unpredictable.
That is not a good situation, especially since some bounding parameters of that unpredictability cannot be definitively established. Not the levels of failure one would want to do rank experimentation with, not the place to experiment with parameters, and despite Constitutional constraints, an incredible amount of damage could be done before some out of spec action or statement could be backpedaled.
So, which is it !?! A substantive response from someone who manages to stop spewing mindless, ridiculous overly-angry nonsense, wipe off the froth and the slobber long enough to post a consistent, coherent sentence would be appreciated.
See the above, and don't be trapped by the bifurcated mentality of either-or assumptions. It is both, in that he is predictably unpredictable, but that aspect has the additional problem of parameters which are, in and of themselves, unpredictable. So while it is sure that his behaviour will be unpredictable, it is not predictable to what degree nor in what direction that unpredictability will manifest itself. That is unbelievably dangerous, considering the amount of power that would be at his discretion, even momentarily.
There was a woman in the jungle
And a monkey on a tree.
The Anti-Trump Brigade it was followin' me.
They can't stop what they're doing
'Cause they've caught a disease
It's called "schizoaffective rage"
'Senses 'taken their leave their leave,
Their leave, their leave, their leave...
(LFL fires off staring pistol for a third time).
I'll just say this. You request a rational response and then post your little inflammatory dirge.
Somehow, within that cognitive disconnect, I think I see the problem.
If you assume that somehow we are the ones who have the cognitive disorder, that might be self-affirming for you, but it has irretrievably biased your attempt (assuming such is in earnest) to decipher why you are having difficulty understanding why your inflammatory posts are the subject of derision.
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Problem! Problem! Problem!
The problem is YOU!!!- Johnny Lydon (Public Image)
Bumpty-dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump
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Problem! Problem! Problem!
The problem is YOU!!!- Johnny Lydon (Public Image)
Bumpty-dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump
Ah yes, we now return to our regularly scheduled nonsense.
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As I mentioned in my last substantive post about three pages and an ocean of spewing of sadistic, deranged, embarrassingly odd Anti-Trumpster hate-back, I knew that there would continue to be a flood of outraged, desperate defenses, sneering over-the-top accusations, hair-on-fire vituperations all designed to keep reality at bay and ameliorate the well-deserved sense of shame that the Anti-Trumpster brigade very naturally feel about throwing their voting franchise away in one huge collective vomit/defecation tantrum.
Here is a topically cogent reality, restated: There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.
Now, let's review how the barking, grunting, psychotic hate-fest all began (and has gone one for what now? 200 posts!!) because I, a genuine conservative, (as I think most of you anti-Trumpsters are not) posted a humorous poem critical of the anti-Trump movement , then had the audacity to respond substantively to a few of the vituperations with emphatic refutations/explanations etc. That's all I did. That's it.
The subsequent lunacy directed at me, my character and my intentions in posting that poem has undergone a fascinating evolution. At first the accusations were merely that I was wrong, wrong-headed, of deficient character/intellect, very foolish or oblivious. Then later, when I ignored most of these odd ejaculations from the volcano of lunacy that the anti-Trumpsters put forth (because frankly they were too numerous and ever-changing to respond to item-by-item without a full-time clerical staff to assist me), the flood became gradually more odd.
Most-lately I am a "plant" from the democrats (who stridently OPPOSE Mr. Trump the last time I checked, as do all of you nice people). So again, there is a serious cognitive dissonance in this specific vituperation. Get it together folks! How on Earth is any undecided reader to be convinced that you all have your fingers firmly on the pulse of reality when you can't get your vituperations to align with a consistent, progressive trajectory?
And I'm STILL waiting for someone to explain how Trump can be horribly inconsistent and also horribly predictable at the same time!!! You're all not sure what he will do from moment to moment, but you know for an absolute certainty that he will be a horrible president - even as you admit that you don't have any idea what he will actually do!! As far as I have had it explained to me by those who deal in reality, one cannot be both incorrigibly, chronically, UNpredictable and also incorrigibly, chronically predictable at the same time. It must (at least in this universe) be one or the other.
So, which is it !?! A substantive response from someone who manages to stop spewing mindless, ridiculous overly-angry nonsense, wipe off the froth and the slobber long enough to post a consistent, coherent sentence would be appreciated.
There was a woman in the jungle
And a monkey on a tree.
The Anti-Trump Brigade it was followin' me.
They can't stop what they're doing
'Cause they've caught a disease
It's called "schizoaffective rage"
'Senses 'taken their leave their leave,
Their leave, their leave, their leave...
(LFL fires off staring pistol for a third time).
Thanks for letting us all know that we got under your skin and live rent free inside your head.
Oh, and Trump we are convinced will be worse than Hillary given the penchant for his bunch to incite his fanatical zealots to issue death threats and promises of punishment simply over whom we choose not to vote for.
You've proven by your own hand you are nothing but a troll, here to start shiite and stir the pot to assuage your own hubris self-importance.
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Ah yes, we now return to our regularly scheduled nonsense.
I could not possibly have described the sadistic, vacuous, reflexive, onanistic eruptions that you anti-Trumpsters call "debate" on this thread any more precisely.
Bumpty dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump
Even the best of the Anti-Trumpsters (and there are a few who actually engage in substantive dialogue occasionally)...
Never say
Never see
Never think and
Never do
Anything
That's really new.
Burma Shave
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First you make the flawed assumption that those who advocate a return of the Federal Government to within the scope of its original Constitutional Duties and powers had/have any "voting franchise" with the GOP or the current POTUS candidate. To assume that a group which has been routinely ignored with the exception of entreaties for donations and empty promises in election years is in any way enfranchised is in error.
Let me put it in another way. If you want steak, continuing to go to McDonald's or Hardees isn't going to load you up with a porterhouse. Claiming that either of those concerns is operating in your best interest when what you want simply isn't on the menu is ludicrous.
You want fries wit' dat?
Okay, there is no way anyone could convince you. I'll leave "normal" human beings out of this, partly because "normal" is a statistical phenomenon dependent on the study group, and because you are presuming to speak for that group without having the ability, I assume, to read their minds. Some saw it as a novelty, some as another poke in already irritated sides by a group of people who just won't quit with their long history of vituperation, despite having been civilly dealt with, who have driven people from web fora, who have physically threatened in some instances people for harboring a different political opinion. By embracing that vituperation and directing it at folks who won't vote for that guy, you place yourself in league with them and that willful association makes you as guilty as other participants in the eyes of those who have been so accosted ad infinitum this election season. If you don't want to be counted in those ranks, don't wear the uniform, but if you do, you can expect to be treated as an adversary.Ah yes, many conspiracy theories abound where the actions of people don't flange up with their stated intent. If you support Trump, why the incessant attacks on those who do not? No attempt to woo, no flowers and chocolates, just a 'grab them by the netherbits' approach? One of the most consistent inconsistencies of the Trump campaign is the unending attack on those who at first expressed reservations about voting for Trump. Trump supporters did as much or more than their candidate to create the #NEVERTRUMP movement, by alienating, berating, and threatening people they should have been trying to convince to vote for their candidate. Maybe that's a "New York Values" thingy, where you threaten those who won't come along willingly to whack them in line, but it just doesn't play with people who have a long history of not being intimidated, and that's a common characteristic in flyover country. We get our back up when someone threatens us, and insulting us is no way to gain our support, heartfelt or grudging.Look at it as a Heisenberg coefficient. Some things are predictably unpredictable, that is they will, with a 99.99% probability remain within certain parameters, but cannot be predicted to be in a certain spot at a given time.
Trump has a much lower predictability rate, which makes him predictably UNpredictable--to a point.
If you can't wrap your head around that, well, I can't help you.
Even with things like nuclear decay, there is a set of statistical parameters which render the process predictable. In Trump's case, though instead of billions of atoms acting as a statistical group, there is one person, one person who might have at his control things like strategic forces (nuclear), naval assets, ICBMs, the foreign policy of our nation, and other critical systems at his behest, who is predictably unpredictable.
That is not a good situation, especially since some bounding parameters of that unpredictability cannot be definitively established. Not the levels of failure one would want to do rank experimentation with, not the place to experiment with parameters, and despite Constitutional constraints, an incredible amount of damage could be done before some out of spec action or statement could be backpedaled.
See the above, and don't be trapped by the bifurcated mentality of either-or assumptions. It is both, in that he is predictably unpredictable, but that aspect has the additional problem of parameters which are, in and of themselves, unpredictable. So while it is sure that his behaviour will be unpredictable, it is not predictable to what degree nor in what direction that unpredictability will manifest itself. That is unbelievably dangerous, considering the amount of power that would be at his discretion, even momentarily.I'll just say this. You request a rational response and then post your little inflammatory dirge.
Somehow, within that cognitive disconnect, I think I see the problem.
If you assume that somehow we are the ones who have the cognitive disorder, that might be self-affirming for you, but it has irretrievably biased your attempt (assuming such is in earnest) to decipher why you are having difficulty understanding why your inflammatory posts are the subject of derision.
That was masterful. Thanks for that effort, knowing in advance it was a waste of time on the troll, but you did demonstrate how to eviscerate and disembowel his Lateness with a razor sharp rapier of wit to the rest of us.
As he made obvious by his own hand - he is not here for debate - but to ridicule and castigate. Your reply should fester in his mind for a little while - and he will either ignore your adroit and cogent evisceration of his sophomoric rant with words he has just learned the meaning of, or he will lash out with Alinsky-Rule-No. 5 perfection.
The rest of us appreciate your masterful handling of our new resident troll.
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Thanks for letting us all know that we got under your skin and live rent free inside your head.
Oh, and Trump we are convinced will be worse than Hillary given the penchant for his bunch to incite his fanatical zealots to issue death threats and promises of punishment simply over whom we choose not to vote for.
You've proven by your own hand you are nothing but a troll, here to start shiite and stir the pot to assuage your own hubris self-importance.
Oh no! Thank YOU, Invar. This thread is up to what? Over 2200 reads and getting close to 250 responses.
BTW, don't you folks realize that with every lame schizoaffectively enraged post, you lose a few more people for your "cause". The whole purpose for this thread was to put you yourselves on display for all to see in all of your spitting, scratching cursing, insulting, vituperative benighted glory. Even after I reveal this to you, you all continue to post!!! Magnificent.
That is why I came back to post after planning to sign off, to stir you all up again. And even AFTER I tell you this, you still can't help yourselves and continue to post humiliatingly detached-from-reality conspiracy theories and kindergarten-level, ham-fisted, sophistic arguments that make you all look like (forgive me) sadistic, bark-at-the-moon, vindictive, tawdry lunatics.
Brah-VOH!!!
Bumpty dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump!
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Oh no! Thank YOU, Invar. This thread is up to what? Over 2200 reads and getting close to 250 responses.
BTW, don't you folks realize that with every lame schizoaffectively enraged post, you lose a few more people for your "cause". The whole purpose for this thread was to put you yourselves on display for all to see in all of your spitting, scratching cursing, insulting, vituperative benighted glory. Even after I reveal this to you, you all continue to post!!! Magnificent.
That is why I came back to post after planning to sign off, to stir you all up again. And even AFTER I tell you this, you still can't help yourselves and continue to post humiliatingly detached-from-reality conspiracy theories and kindergarten-level, ham-fisted, sophistic arguments that make you all look like (forgive me) sadistic, bark-at-the-moon, vindictive, tawdry lunatics.
Brah-VOH!!!
Bumpty dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump!
Ah yes, bumpity bump, the Trashcan Man rolls along from Indian Springs...
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Oh no! Thank YOU, Invar. This thread is up to what? Over 2200 reads and getting close to 250 responses.
Like all trolls who crave attention - you have received your reward. Congrats.
BTW, don't you folks realize that with every lame schizoaffectively enraged post, you lose a few more people for your "cause".
Laughable. You are so filled with your own self-important hubris you are blind to the fact your ridiculing, condescending, threatening pro-Trump mobs are driving reluctant Trump voters into sitting home or going third party. After all, it was people like you who drove me from reluctant to militant NeverTrump. So congrats on making us your enemy.
The whole purpose for this thread was to put you yourselves on display for all to see in all of your spitting, scratching cursing, insulting, vituperative benighted glory. Even after I reveal this to you, you all continue to post!!! Magnificent.
The psychology doesn't fly on a board with only 8 or 9 members who are Trump Militants, with the bulk of the membership having been banned and driven from other fora you and yours have taken over and made into Trump Safe Spaces.
You are not interested in debate. You people never were. As your own hand admits - we will either be threatened, intimidated into submission to your prince, or insulted, threatened and ridiculed for refusing to bow.
That is why I came back to post after planning to sign off, to stir you all up again.
As all trolls and board disruptors and bullies are wont to do.
Thanks for outing yourself… again.
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. . . you all look like (forgive me) sadistic, bark-at-the-moon, vindictive, tawdry lunatics.
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All due respect Ace (and that is great), the graphics don't add much to your posts. It's what they call a "cheap trick" when you can't really think of anything smart or interesting or entertaining to express, use graphics. They teach that a lot in advertising, marketing and web development. That wouldn't be your vocation, would it?
bumpty dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump!
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All due respect Ace (and that is great), the graphics don't add much to your posts. It's what they call a "cheap trick" when you can't really think of anything smart or interesting or entertaining to express, use graphics. They teach that a lot in advertising, marketing and web development. That wouldn't be your vocation, would it?
bumpty dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump!
Oh. You having trouble with graphics?
Just curious there, Trashcan Man, but what's with the bumpty bump stuff?
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All due respect Ace (and that is great), the graphics don't add much to your posts. It's what they call a "cheap trick" when you can't really think of anything smart or interesting to express, use graphics.
It might have been if I hadn't created the signs myself. (The texts are mine entirely. For the record and in the interest
of fair disclosure, I've had an interest in the Burma-Shave sign campaign for a long time and have read two charming
books about them, Mr. Frank Rowsome, Jr.'s The Verse By the Side of the Road and Mr. Bill Vossler's Burma-
Shave: The Rhymes, the Signs, the Times. Recommended reading for anyone whose Americana interests are more
than skin deep, if you'll pardon the expression.) But considering the tenor of the current campaign, you'd get the
impression sometimes that tricks, cheap or otherwise, would be an improvement. ;)
They teach that a lot in
advertising, marketing and web development. That wouldn't be your vocation, would it?
Alas, no. I'm a free lance editor/writer and blues guitarist. I was an art student decades ago but discovered I wasn't
half the artist I might be a writer. And, I picked up the guitar again about eight years ago and refuse to put it down
ever again.
bumpty dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump!
You really should think about hiring a new comedy writer. ;)
One more for (if you'll pardon the expression) the road . . .
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Repeating yourselves is likely only going to continue to annoy guests following the thread who already suspect you anti-Trumpsters of being rather dull-witted. For me, it is wonderful. Please continue!
And will SOMEBODY please enlighten our fellow poster as to the meaning of a "bump". He has apparently not been around the block yet. This term has been used freely on this thread by a whole host of posters other than I.
Ah! I almost forgot! The latest deranged accusations of me being a troll - you may feel free to contact Admin and complain, but I doubt you will find agreement. I have fully and freely engaged in substantive debate with you lovely people and only stopped responding to them as they arose when the level of intellect in the posts sank into the submoron realm ("He's a Democrat PLANT!!" heh) and the level of vituperation rose to the hysterical ranting and raving stratosphere.
It's likely I won't engage in further substantive debate with most of you nice folks for the same reason I won't likely jump headfirst into a wood chipper. One already knows the likely result of each action.
I stay around because I keep hoping that someone on the anti-Trump side of the issue will actually post something straightforward, brief and to the point ( as I have several times) without hateful invective and derisive, sadistic venom, (not to mention being dull and boring) worthy of a substantive response. Wild vituperations or insults hardly rate a substantive, respectful response, wouldn't you agree? I mean, just LOOK at the content of most of the posts directed to or about me over the last twenty posts and ask yourself if they would elicit a response from any normal person!?! I think not.
Oceander and some others have actually posted decently on the thread but you others...wow. It makes me think that some of you have either had too many drugs or not enough.
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...wow. it makes me think that some of you have either had too many drugs or not enough.
Just wait till the next president---whether it's Donaldus Minimus or Hilarious Rodent Clinton---assumes
office. Either one of them will kick the American pharmaeutical industry (not to mention the distillery, brewery,
and tavern businesses) into overdrive trying to keep up with the demand.
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Repeating yourselves is likely only going to continue to annoy guests following the thread who already suspect you anti-Trumpsters of being rather dull-witted. For me, it is wonderful. Please continue!
And will SOMEBODY please enlighten our fellow poster as to the meaning of a "bump". He has apparently not been around the block yet. This term has been used freely on this thread by a whole host of posters other than I.
I take it the 'Trashcan Man reference was lost on you. (A character from an earlier Stephen King novel, The Stand. Bumpty bump your own self. Interesting the character is a pyromaniac who has sold his soul to the Devil's own henchman, Randall Flag, and yet destroys the whole show with a nuclear weapon from the arsenal (in the story) at Indian Springs.
Now you know the rest of the story, and the origin of the reference.
It's such a pity when you insult someone and they just don't get it, but I find the petty arsonist turned apocalyptic somehow appropriate for a comparison, considering your inflammable trolling the #nevertrump people on this forum with your flaming sanctimony and particular brands of insult, claiming vituperation where none has existed, only fact.
Sad. You don't bump to the top on this forum, dear FReeper, not like TOS.
Ah! I almost forgot! The latest deranged accusations of me being a troll - you may feel free to contact Admin and complain, but I doubt you will find agreement. I have fully and freely engaged in substantive debate with you lovely people and only stopped responding to them as they arose when the level of intellect in the posts sank into the submoron realm ("He's a Democrat PLANT!!" heh) and the level of vituperation rose to the hysterical ranting and raving stratosphere.
It's likely I won't engage in further substantive debate with most of you nice folks for the same reason I won't likely jump headfirst into a wood chipper. One already knows the likely result of each action.
Well, there goes that suspense. **nononono* Plants and wood chippers just go together somehow. The only stratospheric claims of abuse I see here are from your keyboard. Perhaps you need to return to your 'safe space' for a little R&R and to let the two or three neurons wildly discharging in unison settle down for a bit. Maybe you should ground them out and start over.
I stay around because I keep hoping that someone on the anti-Trump side of the issue will actually post something straightforward, brief and to the point ( as I have several times) without hateful invective and derisive, sadistic venom, (not to mention being dull and boring) worthy of a substantive response.
Oh, so now you want brevity, too. What, was my other post too much for you to read at once? Did your lips get tired? Wild vituperations or insults hardly rate a substantive, respectful response, wouldn't you agree? I mean, just LOOK at the content of most of the posts directed to or about me over the last twenty posts and ask yourself if they would elicit a response from any normal person!?! I think not.
There you go again, assuming you are somehow a judge of what is 'normal'. I think you have had quite a share of respectful responses, perhaps far more than you merit.
I do have a question, though.
Have you (or for that matter any of the other anti-#nevertrumpers on the thread--feel free to chime in on this one), ever considered how much progress might have been made demeaning Hillary Clinton (remember her, the supposed "enemy") had we all not been so thoroughly engaged by alleged Trump Supporters defending our stance against incontinent invective day after tedious day? How much time could have been spent by the alleged Trump supporters themselves if they had just ignored those pesky #nevertrumps and concentrated their efforts on extolling his virtues ( :silly:) and deriding her flaws--which are legion?
Considering the #nevertrump faction here appears to be basically anti-Hillary too, weeks have been wasted which could have been spent in a cooperative effort to pick through wikileaks material and demean her, too.
But no, in the mold of the fellow who runs his campaign based on vengeful attacks on Republicans and other Conservatives rather than so much on Liberals and Democrats, so much time has been spent projecting all the psychological spew of the Trump campaign onto those of us who won't support him either.
(Maybe y'all should get T-shirts marked like claymore mines: "Front. This side toward enemy").
Of course, that begs the question, cui bono? Why her Hindness, of course. Hence, people wonder if those of you who drew the short straw any given day are only here to distract those of us who don't want her either, from finding more dirt on and discussing her lack of merit, too, by keeping us engaged discussing his (lack of merit, that is).
By the tinfoil hat property of political outcomes, that makes you a pro-Hillary troll.
Oceander and some others have actually posted decently on the thread but you others...wow. It makes me think that some of you have either had too many drugs or not enough.
And now, you make an open ended and blanket accusation that the posters here are habitual users of mood altering substances either overmedicated or short a dose.
How can you rationally expect people to respond to your deranged sanctimony? Or is it just more projection?
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Just wait till the next president---whether it's Donaldus Minimus or Hilarious Rodent Clinton---assumes
office. Either one of them will kick the American pharmaeutical industry (not to mention the distillery, brewery,
and tavern businesses) into overdrive trying to keep up with the demand.
I think both sides get a cut from the Cartels...and Big Pharma.
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It's likely I won't engage in further substantive debate with most of you nice folks for the same reason I won't likely jump headfirst into a wood chipper. One already knows the likely result of each action.
Yet here you are again, doing what disruptive trolls always do in communities when theirs is the minority opinion and they cannot convince. They insult and ridicule.
You have simply opted for grammatical application of words you just learned the meaning of rather than four-letter invectives that your kind often spew.
I stay around because I keep hoping that someone on the anti-Trump side of the issue will actually post something straightforward, brief and to the point ( as I have several times) without hateful invective and derisive, sadistic venom, (not to mention being dull and boring) worthy of a substantive response.
That there is a monster lie, provable by your own hand in reply. You are no more interested in s substantive response than Obama is interested in heterosexual American patriotism. Your own hand told us what your interests are - and they are the interests of your typical disruptive troll demanding attention, no matter how outrageous you have to be to get it.
We know what spirit you are of given your own hand and words making that self-evident.
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(Maybe just a Calgon bubble bath will get you started with the calming down process).
I read that as Caligula bubble bath and spent far longer than necessary thinking what exactly that would be.
Been a long week ....
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It might have been if I hadn't created the signs myself. (The texts are mine entirely. For the record and in the interest
of fair disclosure, I've had an interest in the Burma-Shave sign campaign for a long time and have read two charming
books about them, Mr. Frank Rowsome, Jr.'s The Verse By the Side of the Road and Mr. Bill Vossler's Burma-
Shave: The Rhymes, the Signs, the Times. Recommended reading for anyone whose Americana interests are more
than skin deep, if you'll pardon the expression.) But considering the tenor of the current campaign, you'd get the
impression sometimes that tricks, cheap or otherwise, would be an improvement. ;)
Bill Bryson wrote very affectionately about those signs in one of his books. MAD did a really good set of parodies - I'll see if I can dig out the book it's in and scan it for you.
(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3918&pictureid=81019)
(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3918&pictureid=81020)
(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3918&pictureid=81021)
(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3918&pictureid=80976)
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I read that as Caligula bubble bath and spent far longer than necessary thinking what exactly that would be.
Been a long week ....
:thud:
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I read that as Caligula bubble bath and spent far longer than necessary thinking what exactly that would be.
Been a long week ....
:silly:
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There once was a brash thousandaire
who couldn't afford decent hair.
Vexed voters agreed,
"We're a nation in need!"
But toupée the price, do we dare?
Burma Shave
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Just wait till the next president---whether it's Donaldus Minimus or Hilarious Rodent Clinton---assumes
office. Either one of them will kick the American pharmaeutical industry (not to mention the distillery, brewery,
and tavern businesses) into overdrive trying to keep up with the demand.
About that there can be no question.
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All due respect Ace (and that is great), the graphics don't add much to your posts. It's what they call a "cheap trick" when you can't really think of anything smart or interesting or entertaining to express, use graphics. They teach that a lot in advertising, marketing and web development. That wouldn't be your vocation, would it?
bumpty dumpty the anti-Trumpster bump!
Oh No, I like to use graphics :thud:
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Good old thread!