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Title: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: ABX on April 23, 2016, 01:08:31 am
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Today the Cruz campaign announced the endorsements of former Chairmen of the California Republican Party John S. Herrington and Tirso del Junco. They join former CRP Chairmen Ron Nehring and Michael Schroeder on the Cruz team

From the campaign statement:

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    “As a member of President Reagan’s cabinet, I’ve seen first-hand how a great leader can change the course of our nation. Ted Cruz is the proven conservative leader our country needs to lead us to prosperity once again,” said Herrington.

    John S. Herrington served as President Reagan’s Assistant Secretary of the Navy from 1981-83, Deputy Assistant for Presidential Personnel from 1983-85, and Secretary of Energy for Reagan’s entire second term. Herrington then served as Chairman of the California Republican Party (CRP) from 1995-97.

    “I am 100% behind Ted Cruz for President. As a fellow Cuban American, I believe he will lead the country back to the Reagan revolution,” said Del Junco.

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/04/22/huge-ted-cruz-endorsed-four-former-chairmen-california-gop/


Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Chosen Daughter on April 23, 2016, 01:18:40 am
Trump isn't Reagan. 
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 01:21:16 am
Trump isn't Reagan.

Nor is Cruz.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Fantom on April 23, 2016, 01:25:44 am
Nor is Cruz.

Cruz is not as charismatic as Reagan.  But as a limited federal government conservative he blows Reagan away.

Oh, and on the endorsement front...Awesome Blossom!!
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: ArneFufkin on April 23, 2016, 01:32:12 am
It's how you do it.   Work the districts, earn trust and loyal advocates who will persuade their friends.

California has 53 Congressional Districts.  I would wager Cruz has operations in all of them, and effective operations in most.

Trump will logroll with Fallon, Kimmel and Colbert.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 01:33:53 am
Cruz is not as charismatic as Reagan.  But as a limited federal government conservative he blows Reagan away.

Oh, and on the endorsement front...Awesome Blossom!!

No he certainly is not as charismatic as Reagan, nor is he a "big tent" supporter like Reagan. Paraphrasing Reaganh, 'You can't build support or increase party size through subtraction.'
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Fantom on April 23, 2016, 01:34:36 am
It's how you do it.   Work the districts, earn trust and loyal advocates who will persuade their friends.

California has 53 Congressional Districts.  I would wager Cruz has operations in all of them, and effective operations in most.

Trump will logroll with Fallon, Kimmel and Colbert.

I will say, I am quite happy with how Ted uses the money this Simple Bricklayer sends his way.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Fantom on April 23, 2016, 01:36:41 am
No he certainly is not as charismatic as Reagan, nor is he a "big tent" supporter like Reagan. Paraphrasing Reaganh, 'You can't build support or increase party size through subtraction.'

Would seem he has brought in quite a few voters. How else would he be able to beat the Trump Hoards.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 01:42:32 am
Would seem he has brought in quite a few voters. How else would he be able to beat the Trump Hoards.

Beat? What's the delegate count? Cruz was schlonged in New York and couldn't even pull 50% in his home state. The writing is on the wall.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Bill Cipher on April 23, 2016, 01:49:33 am
Nor is Cruz.

Thank God for that.  Reagan was the right person at the right time, in the 1980s; he would not be the right person, and this would not be the right time, right now.  We need a person who can work with the times the way they are now, not a person whose time was thirty years ago.

I loved Reagan, he was almost perfect for his time; but today is not his time and he would be woefully out of place.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Bill Cipher on April 23, 2016, 01:51:13 am
Beat? What's the delegate count? Cruz was schlonged in New York and couldn't even pull 50% in his home state. The writing is on the wall.

Gee, NY only had 3 names on the ballot; TX had quite a few more.  Comparing apples to oranges - even annoying oranges in NYC - would be more fruitful.

And TX had millions of voters in the primary; NY could barely muster a few hundred thousand.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: ArneFufkin on April 23, 2016, 01:57:34 am
I will say, I am quite happy with how Ted uses the money this Simple Bricklayer sends his way.

Your investment is well directed sir.

I have also sent money his way and I was originally a Walker or Perry guy, then a Rubio guy, now a Cruz guy.   I am impressed by Ted.

I cannot link this one enough (Ted Cruz for 45 minutes on CNBC SqauckBox).   He is informed, he is brilliant -  but it's not Clinton/Obama type "brilliant" - he is talking from his heart, soul and brain.   He's real.

I like him and I think if he survives this hostile GOP takeover by Trump and his corrupt Orcs I think he can beat the limping Gazelle on the Serengeti - Hillary.   

I understand his deficiency ... it's huge ... he's a brilliant lawyer and statesman in our 2016 culture that demands a celebrity. He's stiff, he's preachy and he's really funny but he doesn't have a funny face.   Al Franken has made a political career of being stupid, unfunny but he does it through a funny face.   Nothing funny ever comes from Al Franken, but people imagine that it did or will.

I am really angry at Trump and his provocateur supporters because they've decided that is more important to destroy the GOP for imagined insults and grievances and betrayals than save America from a Clinton Presidency that will destroy the finest experiment in freedom and political/economic brilliance in human history.

That's where we're at.  And, it's why it's hard for me to be "nice" to the Trump shills around here. 
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 02:01:23 am
Thank God for that.  Reagan was the right person at the right time, in the 1980s; he would not be the right person, and this would not be the right time, right now.  We need a person who can work with the times the way they are now, not a person whose time was thirty years ago.

I loved Reagan, he was almost perfect for his time; but today is not his time and he would be woefully out of place.

We need a person who can work with the times and who better than a businessman who has to keep up with the times and work with all kinds of people; liberals, minorities, women, politicians, lawyers, contractors, financiers, bankers, etc.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 02:04:31 am
Gee, NY only had 3 names on the ballot; TX had quite a few more.  Comparing apples to oranges - even annoying oranges in NYC - would be more fruitful.

And TX had millions of voters in the primary; NY could barely muster a few hundred thousand.

If you can't carry your home state with 50% you're in trouble. I don't care how many names are on the ballot. A candidate should win BIG at home.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Bill Cipher on April 23, 2016, 02:13:48 am
If you can't carry your home state with 50% you're in trouble. I don't care how many names are on the ballot. A candidate should win BIG at home.

Hardly.  Since we all know that none of the people who voted for Kasich, Rubio, etc, would ever support Trump during the primaries, to get an apples to apples comparison you simply add the results for the people who have now dropped out to Cruz' results.  Rubio alone got 17.7% in Texas.  Rubio's supporters would never have voted for Trump if Rubio wasn't running, and we know that Kasich is way too liberal for most Texans, so we know that 17.7% would have almost certainly gone to Cruz.  Cruz got 43.8%, so when we add 17.7% to that, we get 61.4%, which means Cruz won Texas.  Carson and Bush together got 5.5%, so that would bring Cruz' results up to 66.9%.  That's better than Trump's 60% in NY under equivalent facts, which means Cruz did better in Texas than Trump did in NY.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 02:18:29 am
Hardly.  Since we all know that none of the people who voted for Kasich, Rubio, etc, would ever support Trump during the primaries, to get an apples to apples comparison you simply add the results for the people who have now dropped out to Cruz' results.  Rubio alone got 17.7% in Texas.  Rubio's supporters would never have voted for Trump if Rubio wasn't running, and we know that Kasich is way too liberal for most Texans, so we know that 17.7% would have almost certainly gone to Cruz.  Cruz got 43.8%, so when we add 17.7% to that, we get 61.4%, which means Cruz won Texas.  Carson and Bush together got 5.5%, so that would bring Cruz' results up to 66.9%.  That's better than Trump's 60% in NY under equivalent facts, which means Cruz did better in Texas than Trump did in NY.

No you don't "all" know. That's exactly why Trump is winning and gaining momentum. He's going to have the nomination wrapped up prior to the convention. Even Gov. Walker states he will support Trump if he's nominated. It's nearly over.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: ArneFufkin on April 23, 2016, 02:27:30 am
If you can't carry your home state with 50% you're in trouble. I don't care how many names are on the ballot. A candidate should win BIG at home.

You are so ridiculous.  To the point of annoying.

Donald Trump received 19.5% of all the Primary votes cast in New York Tuesday.   That's the fact.   All THREE of the GOP candidates garnered only 32%.

Congratulation CHAMP!  You did GREAT!

In Texas, Ted Cruz won 43% of a GOP VOTE that won 67% of ALL THE VOTES with 14 candidates.

I generally don't expect Trump supporters to have the intellectual prowess to understand that distinction. 



Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: AnybodyButaDem on April 23, 2016, 04:16:59 am
Hardly.  Since we all know that none of the people who voted for Kasich, Rubio, etc, would ever support Trump during the primaries, to get an apples to apples comparison you simply add the results for the people who have now dropped out to Cruz' results.  Rubio alone got 17.7% in Texas.  Rubio's supporters would never have voted for Trump if Rubio wasn't running, and we know that Kasich is way too liberal for most Texans, so we know that 17.7% would have almost certainly gone to Cruz.  Cruz got 43.8%, so when we add 17.7% to that, we get 61.4%, which means Cruz won Texas.  Carson and Bush together got 5.5%, so that would bring Cruz' results up to 66.9%.  That's better than Trump's 60% in NY under equivalent facts, which means Cruz did better in Texas than Trump did in NY.

Then why is it Trump's poll numbers have increased when the Rubios and Jebs dropped out?  Where did those supporters come from?

Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: AnybodyButaDem on April 23, 2016, 04:19:11 am
You are so ridiculous.  To the point of annoying.

Donald Trump received 19.5% of all the Primary votes cast in New York Tuesday.   That's the fact.   All THREE of the GOP candidates garnered only 32%.

Congratulation CHAMP!  You did GREAT!

In Texas, Ted Cruz won 43% of a GOP VOTE that won 67% of ALL THE VOTES with 14 candidates.

I generally don't expect Trump supporters to have the intellectual prowess to understand that distinction.

Trump got 27% of the GOP votes in Texas.  Cruz got clobbered in New York.

Cruz is a certain path to loserdom now that the GOPe has their arms cradling him. 
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: sinkspur on April 23, 2016, 04:21:17 am
Then why is it Trump's poll numbers have increased when the Rubios and Jebs dropped out?  Where did those supporters come from?

Poll numbers don't mean jack. Why has Trump's portion of the actual vote stayed between 35-38% during the entire primary season?
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 04:28:05 am
You are so ridiculous.  To the point of annoying.

Donald Trump received 19.5% of all the Primary votes cast in New York Tuesday.   That's the fact.   All THREE of the GOP candidates garnered only 32%.

Congratulation CHAMP!  You did GREAT!

In Texas, Ted Cruz won 43% of a GOP VOTE that won 67% of ALL THE VOTES with 14 candidates.

I generally don't expect Trump supporters to have the intellectual prowess to understand that distinction.

Totally irrelevant. Trump wasn't running against all other candidates. He schlonged Cruz and Kasich, his GOP opponents.  I don't expect Cruzers to discern the difference as most have their heads buried.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: truth_seeker on April 23, 2016, 04:29:20 am

I generally don't expect Trump supporters to have the intellectual prowess to understand that distinction.
The "Trump supporters are too stupid," has been used on this site already. Some simply left. One was a PhD, but kept it to himself.

He was simply tired of the childish insults. But alas, you now have a whole shiteload of new Cruz refugees, and in a few weeks they can all insult each other, before, during and after Trump wins the nomination.

Finally I refer you to Real Clear Politics and their compilation of the most recent polls for California.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 04:30:19 am
Poll numbers don't mean jack. Why has Trump's portion of the actual vote stayed between 35-38% during the entire primary season?

 Did you read what you posted?  :laughingdog:
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 04:31:56 am
The "Trump supporters are too stupid," has been used on this site already. Some simply left. One was a PhD, but kept it to himself.

He was simply tired of the childish insults. But alas, you now have a whole shiteload of new Cruz refugees, and in a few weeks they can all insult each other, before, during and after Trump wins the nomination.

Finally I refer you to Real Clear Politics and their compilation of the most recent polls for California.

I've noticed what a civil lot those anti-Trumps are.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 04:34:17 am
I did. Did you understand what I wrote, [personal insult deleted]

Talking to yourself again. I love the civility of the anti-Trumps.  88finger point
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: sinkspur on April 23, 2016, 04:39:15 am

You post anti-Trump stuff here 24/7 yet Trump continues to gain support as the loser Kasich stands in the proverbial corner twiddling his thumbs whining that GOP voters don't like his liberal Democrat ideas.

Whatever your plan is with your shtick here, it is proving to be a spectacular failure!  Now you're left with stupid insults and zero substance.   :silly:

Trump is not "gaining support."  He's stuck at 38% of the vote.  He may win the nomination, but 60% of the party doesn't want him.

Trump may win the nomination but will be destroyed in the general. I'll take any bets you want to lay down on that score.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: AnybodyButaDem on April 23, 2016, 04:42:35 am
Trump is not "gaining support."  He's stuck at 38% of the vote.  He may win the nomination, but 60% of the party doesn't want him.

Trump may win the nomination but will be destroyed in the general. I'll take any bets you want to lay down on that score.

Well you're lying yet again.  The last three polls, all from April, have him at 42, 40, and 45.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: sinkspur on April 23, 2016, 04:45:01 am
Well you're lying yet again.  The last three polls, all from April, have him at 42, 40, and 45.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

Polls don't mean anything.  Trump is averaging 38% of the vote so far.   That means 62% of the GOP voters are NOT voting for him.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: truth_seeker on April 23, 2016, 04:47:42 am

You post anti-Trump stuff here 24/7 yet Trump continues to gain support as the loser Kasich stands in the proverbial corner twiddling his thumbs whining that GOP voters don't like his liberal Democrat ideas.

Whatever your plan is with your shtick here, it is proving to be a spectacular failure!  Now you're left with stupid insults and zero substance.   :silly:

Behaving poorly on the internet is a lifestyle.

http://www.angelqueen.org/articles/05-06_sinkspur.shtml
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: AnybodyButaDem on April 23, 2016, 04:47:52 am
Polls don't mean anything.  Trump is averaging 38% of the vote so far.   That means 62% of the GOP voters are NOT voting for him.

Do I get to use the Cruz/Kasich excuse that his percentage has gone up since the field was narrowed?  I mean there were 14 people on the ballot!  Guess what, that makes Trump getting 27% of the vote in a highly conservative state all the more impressive.

Or does that lame excuse only work for you anti-Trump posters?
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Mod2 on April 23, 2016, 04:48:36 am
Ok,
Everyone calm down and take a breath and stop the crap!

You are all grownups.....i think?
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: sinkspur on April 23, 2016, 04:48:45 am
You couldn't hold Trump's coat. You're an embarrassment to any candidate.  :bigsilly:

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSf9WeTmGm6P4P4oAyzbiMpIaYKS6b3Nie_aYKuXyJZPiYg0e64)
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: AnybodyButaDem on April 23, 2016, 04:49:15 am
Behaving poorly on the internet is a lifestyle.

http://www.angelqueen.org/articles/05-06_sinkspur.shtml

Is that the same guy posting in this thread?  Wow, lying about something like that is not admirable or funny in any sense.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: AnybodyButaDem on April 23, 2016, 04:49:52 am
Ok,
Everyone calm down and take a breath and stop the crap!

You are all grownups.....i think?

Only one poster in this thread has used the word "dumbass" to describe a fellow poster.  He's not posting anything of substance, either, yet is mocking the intelligence of posters like me, who in reality are running circles around him right now and doing so in a civil manner.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: sinkspur on April 23, 2016, 04:51:39 am
Is that the same guy posting in this thread?  Wow, lying about something like that is not admirable or funny in any sense.

Not me.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 05:08:12 am
Not me.

 8bs8
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Fantom on April 23, 2016, 07:25:27 am
If you can't carry your home state with 50% you're in trouble. I don't care how many names are on the ballot. A candidate should win BIG at home.

If you come in a distant third in your home state you are in trouble.

The orange Scam Wow fell far behind both Hillary and Sanders in his home state.  Let me reiterate...sanders had a quarter million more votes in NY than did trump. Hillary had more than half a million more votes in NY than trump.

So much for the meme that Scam  Wow can deliver any blue states. If trump, on his best knight gets schlonged in NY by both Hillary and Sanders... trump is unelectable.

I also note that Cruz beat both sanders and Clinton in his home state.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: AnybodyButaDem on April 23, 2016, 07:28:51 am
If you come in a distant third in your home state you are in trouble.

The orange Scam Wow fell far behind both Hillary and Sanders in his home state.  Let me reiterate...sanders had a quarter million more votes in NY than did trump. Hillary had more than half a million more votes in NY than trump.

So much for the meme that Scam  Wow can deliver any blue states. If trump, on his best knight gets schlonged in NY by both Hillary and Sanders... trump is unelectable.

I also note that Cruz beat both sanders and Clinton in his home state.

Using your logic Trump will beat either in Texas, too, since he was within 200k votes of Clinton who was in a 2 person race, while Trump was going against 14 candidates.  So Cruz and Trump would both win Texas, while Trump may actually have a shot at a swing state.   :shrug:
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Fantom on April 23, 2016, 07:34:26 am
Using your logic Trump will beat either in Texas, too, since he was within 200k votes of Clinton who was in a 2 person race, while Trump was going against 14 candidates.  So Cruz and Trump would both win Texas, while Trump may actually have a shot at a swing state.   :shrug:


Using my logic?   :shrug:

Where have I said anything in this tread about the number of candidates? I think you mistake me for someone else.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: A-Lert on April 23, 2016, 07:38:57 am
If you come in a distant third in your home state you are in trouble.

The orange Scam Wow fell far behind both Hillary and Sanders in his home state.  Let me reiterate...sanders had a quarter million more votes in NY than did trump. Hillary had more than half a million more votes in NY than trump.

So much for the meme that Scam  Wow can deliver any blue states. If trump, on his best knight gets schlonged in NY by both Hillary and Sanders... trump is unelectable.

I also note that Cruz beat both sanders and Clinton in his home state.

Trump wasn't running against democrats, he was running against Kasich and Cruz. He schlonged them handily. Trump shut out Cruz in New York. Trump is closing in on the needed delegates.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: Fantom on April 23, 2016, 07:40:54 am
Using your logic Trump will beat either in Texas, too, since he was within 200k votes of Clinton who was in a 2 person race, while Trump was going against 14 candidates.  So Cruz and Trump would both win Texas, while Trump may actually have a shot at a swing state.   :shrug:

However, to use your logic...Cruz would win Ohio.. as he was within 300k votes of Clinton. Looks like Cruz can swing too.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: AnybodyButaDem on April 25, 2016, 02:10:18 am
However, to use your logic...Cruz would win Ohio.. as he was within 300k votes of Clinton. Looks like Cruz can swing too.

That doesn't make sense, though, because Ohio isn't Trump's home state.  We were talking about NY and Texas I thought, and how Cruz supporters were saying how diluted the field was when the reality was he was an elected senator from Texas who couldn't get 50% of the vote in a close primary.   :shrug:
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: sinkspur on April 25, 2016, 02:21:28 am
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Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: libertybele on April 25, 2016, 02:33:09 am
...and the response from the Kasich campaign??  I see Cruz taking a huge, huge chance and a leap of solid faith with this one.  He's put the ball in Kasich's court. It will be very telling what Kasich does and how he responds.
Title: Re: HUGE: Ted Cruz Earns FOUR Critical California Endorsements!
Post by: mystery-ak on April 25, 2016, 02:48:22 am
Get this thread back on topic please