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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: corbe on August 15, 2017, 12:25:08 am
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Protesters topple Confederate statue in North Carolina
By Brandon Carter - 08/14/17 07:35 PM EDT
Video posted to Twitter shows protestors surrounding the statue and chanting “No KKK! No fascists! USA” as several protestors appear to pull down the statue with a rope.
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WNCN reports the statue was dedicated in Durham in 1924 and was located in front of a local government building.
The statue represented a soldier who fought in the Civil War and an inscription on the front read “The Confederate States of America.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/346557-protesters-topple-confederate-statue-in-north-carolina (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/346557-protesters-topple-confederate-statue-in-north-carolina)
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People are beingstupid. When people act stupid they get hurt.
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Fox just showed it...disgusting.
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Talibanning of History continues.
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Some really brave people, kicking a statue. I would like to see them try that with Civil War reenactment folks.
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Ain't it funny how liberals want to get rid of all aspects of the Confederacy and slavery, but seem to want to leave the Democrat party that supported it alone.
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I hope that girl kicking the thing at the end broke her foot like the moron she is. What the hell does she think she is accomplishing?
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I hope that girl kicking the thing at the end broke her foot like the moron she is. What the hell does she think she is accomplishing?
Doesn't matter, it's all about the feels.
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And how the hell were there NOT cops there to stop it when they saw the strap go up???
Why don't we see immediate arrests for the destruction of public property?
These folks are the real nazis. Next up - book burnings!
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Talibanning of History continues.
What's the goal here? Is it to remove anything from the era of slavery or the civil war? (Serious question)
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What's the goal here? Is it to remove anything from the era of slavery or the civil war? (Serious question)
Apparently...Rush said they will burn all the copies of Gone With The Wind next *****rollingeyes*****
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Iowahawk writes:
"There are 378 genders, but politics boils down to Nazis versus people who agree with me."
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Not trying to jack the thread but the @edpc comment brought up a rather interesting paradox (for me anyway).
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Stone Mountain is the Big Prize. They want to blow that up like the Taliban.
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Not trying to jack the thread but
Sure you are. Don't be coy.
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Stone Mountain is the Big Prize. They want to blow that up like the Taliban.
The good old boys will have the high ground if they try.
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The good old boys will have the high ground if they try.
If people are shot in the attempt, that I will cheer.
The bulldozing of history is disgusting.
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The good old boys will have the high ground if they try.
I believe I might like to witness that.
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Not trying to jack the thread but the @edpc comment brought up a rather interesting paradox (for me anyway).
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/25/article-2298782-18E91D0C000005DC-923_634x441.jpg)
How was that a paradox? Those men fought their way into Baghdad to do that. More than likely they fought remnant Baathists, Fedayeen, and AQ in Iraq elements for months or years, after. The cowards in the video are really fierce with the inanimate.
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Apparently...Rush said they will burn all the copies of Gone With The Wind next *****rollingeyes*****
I actually caught that segment of his show today in the car @mystery-ak . He was citing examples of what would need to happen to eliminate and rewrite the history of the South. He mentioned Gone with the Wind as one example since it presented the South as a successful and cultured society.
I think this whole segment was Rush at his reductio ad absurdum best.
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I'd like to see them try to take off the confederate flag on this black guy's pickup truck here in town.
This is despicable, I hope they rebuild such a monument.
In Ukraine, they've pulled statues of Lenin down but I don't see the parallel as in the other above.
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Here in Atlanta, there is a stretch of I-285 passing through Cobb County that was renamed for a local racist politician Billy McKinney. And there is a Federal building downtown named after the Senator who led the filibuster against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Not one of these leftists is calling for those names to be removed. Go figure.
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Fox just showed it...disgusting.
Mob rule. I seem to remember seeing it somewhere before. Berlin 1934 perhaps?
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Here in Atlanta, there is a stretch of I-285 passing through Cobb County that was renamed for a local racist politician Billy McKinney. And there is a Federal building downtown named after the Senator who led the filibuster against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Not one of these leftists is calling for those names to be removed. Go figure.
As others have mentioned in different threads, you can't throw a rock anywhere in W VA without hitting something with Robert KKK Byrd's name on it. Where's the outrage?
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I actually caught that segment of his show today in the car @mystery-ak . He was citing examples of what would need to happen to eliminate and rewrite the history of the South. He mentioned Gone with the Wind as one example since it presented the South as a successful and cultured society.
There is a small house in Atlanta near 10th St and Peachtree that is surrounded by many-storied office towers. It is the rooming house that Margaret Mitchell lived in when she wrote Gone With the Wind. Many years ago, developers tried to tear it down because it sat on prime Midtown real estate. But the local Democrat politicians intervened and named it a historical site.
It would be funny as all get out to see them tear it down now.
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@edpc I didn't watch the Original Video.
Paradoxically, the US Army as invaders of a sovereign, but belligerent, Country rips their statues down, that was my contradiction and IMHO, the argument can be passionately expressed on all ends of the spectrum.
I am still of the firm belief that invading Afghanistan and Iraq was the 'right thing' to do, but just as Vietnam (Domino Effect), it's the politicians that screwed it all up, later, with their Nation Building, that shit went out with Marshall and Macarthur.
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An anarchist shot one of our presidents, McKinley, an anarchist shot the Archduke in Sarajevo and that was the act many say started World War I.
In Chicago, there were Communist riots around 1920, that movie on Hoover with DiCaprio touches on this.
This right now that is going on, reminds me of the above.
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I don't see the issue.
Then again, I didn't see the issue when Russian toppled their Lenin and Stalin statues after the fall of the Soviet Union.
That wasn't erasing history any more than this is.
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That is not a protest.
It is a act of violence against the state.
Those responsible should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
I volunteer to serve on the jury.
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I don't see the issue.
Then again, I didn't see the issue when Russian toppled their Lenin and Stalin statues after the fall of the Soviet Union.
That wasn't erasing history any more than this is.
How does this relate to the fall of the Soviet Union when there has been no regime change here? Were these vandals throwing off oppression and dictatorial rule?
Then by all means lets destroy any other historical artifact before the Civil War, as we were a slave nation. Let's get rid of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, because they were written when there were slaves in the United States.
Heck let's get rid of everything before the Civil Rights Act in '65, because blacks didn't have civil rights till then.
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How does this relate to the fall of the Soviet Union when there has been no regime change here? Were these vandals throwing off oppression and dictatorial rule?
Then by all means lets destroy any other historical artifact before the Civil War, as we were a slave nation. Let's get rid of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, because they were written when there were slaves in the United States.
Heck let's get rid of everything before the Civil Rights Act in '65, because blacks didn't have civil rights till then.
Bipolar much?
What's with the 'all or nothing' view here?
As if we can't be somewhere in the middle.
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Welp, I think it was really terrible. And I'm no fan of the confederacy.
They should just rebuild with a taller statue.
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Welp, I think it was really terrible. And I'm no fan of the confederacy.
They should just rebuild with a taller statue.
With stronger/better anchor bolts too.
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Bipolar much?
What's with the 'all or nothing' view here?
As if we can't be somewhere in the middle.
Problem is you can't enforce your line in the sand, and the same logic being applied to taking these statues down can be used for anything prior to 1965. You seem to be blind to the opportunistic slippery slope. Willfully maybe.
Your logic of comparing the Soviet Union to the Confederacy is the same kind of flimsy logic the Left uses. Maybe that's all you need.
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Loan Tran is one of the organizers; she must be the Asian-looking woman in the picture from the report in the original post. They apparently know of one person. I hope she is fully prosecuted by the law, prosecuted and all of these individuals should have to pay any costs.
That sounds like a Vietnamese name though, I don't know for certain.
Some thanks to this country.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/14/video-protesters-pull-down-confederate-statue-in-durham-nc/
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I assume that is her in front there. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/346557-protesters-topple-confederate-statue-in-north-carolina
Though, 90% or more of the Asians I've known have been cool, I think bigotry occurs with all people.
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Let's see them remove this one.........
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Loan Tran is one of the organizers; she must be the Asian-looking woman in the picture from the report in the original post. They apparently know of one person. I hope she is fully prosecuted by the law, prosecuted and all of these individuals should have to pay any costs.
That sounds like a Vietnamese name though, I don't know for certain.
Some thanks to this country.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/14/video-protesters-pull-down-confederate-statue-in-durham-nc/
(http://content.newsinc.com/jpg/1663/32832998/61610001.jpg?t=1502742540)
I assume that is her in front there. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/346557-protesters-topple-confederate-statue-in-north-carolina
Though, 90% or more of the Asians I've known have been cool, I think bigotry occurs with all people.
I know a Loan Tran. I'd need a proper photograph to identify.
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I know a Loan Tran.
A shemale that works at a bank, perchance?
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Not trying to jack the thread but the @edpc comment brought up a rather interesting paradox (for me anyway).
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/25/article-2298782-18E91D0C000005DC-923_634x441.jpg)
I spoke out against it at the time.
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A shemale that works at a bank, perchance?
No, fairly attractive, middle aged Vietnamese female coworker at the Post Office.
I doubt she'd drive 1500 miles to VirginiaNorth Carolina to tear down a statue, but you never know.
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A shemale that works at a bank, perchance?
I lol'd!
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Care to elaborate @edpc How did you discover it's true sexuality?
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Care to elaborate @edpc
I'm not the world's most physical guy,
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemG0cvc4oU
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That's scary @edpc
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Talibanning of History continues.
Yup. IMO, tear down all the statues of the Confederate politicians, but leave alone the ones honoring soldiers. Soldiers deserve to be memorialized no matter how lost the cause; it's the politicians that send them fight and die.
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Let's see them remove this one.........
They'll demand its removal, and if the politicians refuse to cave on that point, the fascists will use bombs. Reminds me of the French Revolution in some ways. Don't be surprised to see churches destroyed. **nononono*
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Let's see them remove this one.........
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Stone_mountain_closer_up.jpg)
It has been proposed before....
NAACP: Banish Confederate symbols from Stone Mountain in Georgia
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/living/feat-stone-mountain-georgia-naacp-confederate-symbol/index.html
July 14, 2015
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The left will not stop until it attempts to destroy Robert E. Lee's homestead in Arlington, Va. It may be tough for them, as it is also Arlington National Cemetary.
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The left will not stop until it attempts to destroy Robert E. Lee's homestead in Arlington, Va. It may be tough for them, as it is also Arlington National Cemetary.
Lee was a good man. His legacy does not deserve to be treated this way. The worst strike against him was his role in squelching a slave rebellion in Harpers Ferry, VA as a Federal military commander under orders from the President of the United States.
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The left will not stop until it attempts to destroy Robert E. Lee's homestead in Arlington, Va. It may be tough for them, as it is also Arlington National Cemetary.
Yep, and may as well go after the homesteads of Madison, Jefferson and Monroe, while they're at it. **nononono*
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I know a Loan Tran. I'd need a proper photograph to identify.
Loan Tran is the John Smith of Vietnamese.
I'd like to see Loan Tran spend six months in the clink for wonton destruction of public property.
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The left will not stop until it attempts to destroy Robert E. Lee's homestead in Arlington, Va. It may be tough for them, as it is also Arlington National Cemetary.
This is just the beginning for them. Regardless of how one feels about Confederate statues, the left will never stop.
Ultimately, they want speech codes and thought crimes enforced by the full power of the state. The problem with that kind of thinking is they all assume they'll always be the ones in power enforcing them. It never enters their mind that their opponents or enemies will ever gain power and use same against them
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Loan Tran is the John Smith of Vietnamese.
I'd like to see Loan Tran spend six months in the clink for wonton destruction of public property.
And that was just the tip of the riceberg
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And that was just the tip of the riceberg
Glad someone got it.
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Glad someone got it.
I got your back. I'll even cosign a Loan Transaction.
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We need to call this like it is:
Democrats trying to erase Democrat history.
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We need to call this like it is:
Democrats trying to erase Democrat history.
Somebody needs to tweet that to Iowahawk @DCPatriot
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The left will not stop until it attempts to destroy Robert E. Lee's homestead in Arlington, Va. It may be tough for them, as it is also Arlington National Cemetary.
Good time to rename every federal building in West Virginia with Robert Byrd's name on it.
Let the Germans bulldoze Dachau and other concentration camps.
Bulldoze the Japanese internment camps from WWII.
Beam me up, Scotty.
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With stronger/better anchor bolts too.
and a 110 V surprise for the next perp.
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I'd like to see them try to take off the confederate flag on this black guy's pickup truck here in town.
H. K. Edgerton
One of the most honorable upstanding guys in SCV. Would love to hear his take on this.
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Good time to rename every federal building in West Virginia with Robert Byrd's name on it.
Let the Germans bulldoze Dachau and other concentration camps.
Bulldoze the Japanese internment camps from WWII.
Beam me up, Scotty.
Try to bulldoze the Stonewall Inn and find out how unimportant history is to the Left.
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The left will not stop until it attempts to destroy Robert E. Lee's homestead in Arlington, Va. It may be tough for them, as it is also Arlington National Cemetary.
If some idiot tries to do that...the SJW's should be reminded that the house and grounds actually belonged to his wife's family...direct descendants of George Washington.
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Try to bulldoze the Stonewall Inn and find out how unimportant history is to the Left.
LOL! Excellent point.
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Loan Tran is the John Smith of Vietnamese.
I'd like to see Loan Tran spend six months in the clink for wonton destruction of public property.
Looks like someone is making your wish happen.
Criminal charges sought for protesters who toppled Confederate statue in North Carolina
When protesters, angry over the deadly incidents in Virginia this weekend, decided to take down a nearly century-old statue of a Confederate soldier in North Carolina on Monday, law enforcement stood back and watched.
At no time did officers with the Durham Police Department or deputies with the Durham County Sheriff’s Office intervene as activists brought a ladder up to the statue and used a rope to pull it down, according to multiple media reports.
No one was arrested Monday, however, a day later, Durham County Sheriff Mike Andrews announced investigators were working to identify the protesters and planned to bring criminal charges against them.
“We decided that restraint and public safety would be our priority,” Andrews said in a statement posted on his agency's website. “As the Sheriff, I am not blind to the offensive conduct of some demonstrators nor will I ignore their criminal conduct.”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/15/criminal-charges-sought-for-protesters-who-toppled-confederate-statue-in-north-carolina.html
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Try to bulldoze the Stonewall Inn and find out how unimportant history is to the Left.
Except Stonewall in wasn't named after Stonewall Jackson...
...of course, I doubt they will care to look up facts when they are in reaction mode. So it may be fun to troll them with it.
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Try to bulldoze the Stonewall Inn and find out how unimportant history is to the Left.
You mean that Mafia-owned bar?
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Except Stonewall in wasn't named after Stonewall Jackson...
...of course, I doubt they will care to look up facts when they are in reaction mode. So it may be fun to troll them with it.
His point, I'm sure, was that the bar is credited with the commencement of the Gay Rights Movement.
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Looks like someone is making your wish happen.
“We decided that restraint and public safety would be our priority,” Andrews said in a statement posted on his agency's website. “As the Sheriff, I am not blind to the offensive conduct of some demonstrators nor will I ignore their criminal conduct.”
Sorry, but this sounds like a bad idea and all too familiar from April 2015......
[Baltimore] Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake stood before the news cameras over the weekend and really did say, “We also gave those who wish to destroy space to do that as well.”
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Sorry, but this sounds like a bad idea and all too familiar from April 2015......
[Baltimore] Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake stood before the news cameras over the weekend and really did say, “We also gave those who wish to destroy space to do that as well.”
But did the Baltimore mayor say " investigators were working to identify the protesters and planned to bring criminal charges against them."?
Why leave that part out?
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His point, I'm sure, was that the bar is credited with the commencement of the Gay Rights Movement.
Yes, but given the name of the monumen I expect suggesting it's removal would cause considerable cognitive dissonance within the pea brains of these leftist crusaders.
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But did the Baltimore mayor say " investigators were working to identify the protesters and planned to bring criminal charges against them."?
Why leave that part out?
Because one part was a direct quote and the other was unattributed to anyone specific. Both set terrible precedents. Releasing statements like that will only embolden groups to show up in sufficient numbers that will cause officials to back down in the interest of 'public safety.' That may very well lead to something much more serious than the destruction of property. Over the weekend, that stance contributed to the death of one and injury of many. The Baltimore incident was summed up well by a Maryland professor.
"To say, 'Overwhelmingly, the demonstrations were peaceful and there was only one night of rioting,' is like saying, 'Right up until Lincoln got shot he had a great time at the play,' said Todd Eberly, an associate professor of political science at St. Mary's College of Maryland. "No one is focused on what happened before the rioting. The key is what happened once it became clear that the situation was out of control."
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Except Stonewall in wasn't named after Stonewall Jackson...
...of course, I doubt they will care to look up facts when they are in reaction mode. So it may be fun to troll them with it.
Shelia Jackson Lee has the same last name as RE Lee. Maybe they can take care of her too.
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Shelia Jackson Lee has the same last name as RE Lee. Maybe they can take care of her too.
She needs to change her middle/maiden name as well.
Jackson is the same as Stonewall Jackson.
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She needs to change her middle/maiden name as well.
Jackson is the same as Stonewall Jackson.
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Get her to change her 1st name to Longstreet
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Because one part was a direct quote and the other was unattributed to anyone specific. Both set terrible precedents. Releasing statements like that will only embolden groups to show up in sufficient numbers that will cause officials to back down in the interest of 'public safety.' That may very well lead to something much more serious than the destruction of property. Over the weekend, that stance contributed to the death of one and injury of many. The Baltimore incident was summed up well by a Maryland professor.
"To say, 'Overwhelmingly, the demonstrations were peaceful and there was only one night of rioting,' is like saying, 'Right up until Lincoln got shot he had a great time at the play,' said Todd Eberly, an associate professor of political science at St. Mary's College of Maryland. "No one is focused on what happened before the rioting. The key is what happened once it became clear that the situation was out of control."
I understand your comment now. Still, I think at least officials seem to be interested in the wild parties having some accountability, which was certainly not the case in Baltimore.
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Get her to change her 1st name to Longstreet
I've referred to her as "Stuart Jackson Lee" in the past.
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Mob rule
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For our next trick, we will be smashing out the windows of all Jewish-owned businesses.
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Mob rule
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Some good shots there. City's got the goods to prosecute for destruction of public property. /s
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Where's Belushi when you need him for guitar guy in the photo?
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Mob rule
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For our next trick, we will be smashing out the windows of all Jewish-owned businesses.
(http://www.media-diversity.org/en/additional-files/Kristallnacht_1938.jpg)
Give it a decade...maybe less and you'll see the Leftist idiots doing that to statues of Washington, Hamilton, Franklin etc.
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Not trying to jack the thread but the @edpc comment brought up a rather interesting paradox (for me anyway).
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Others have already explained the difference. Let me just add , when Lincoln said "And mallace towards none", that shuts the door on scenes like this being played out here. Or so he hoped and prayed.
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Not trying to jack the thread but the @edpc comment brought up a rather interesting paradox (for me anyway).
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@corbe
Please explain the paradox.
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@corbe
Please explain the paradox.
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John McCain: 'No moral equivalency between racists and Americans standing up to defy hate'
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/sen-john-mccain-criticized-trumps-response-to-white-national-rally.html
No Senator McCain, Governor Romney, they are also doing wrongs.
"Defying hate" *****rollingeyes*****
They must only watch CNN.
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"Defying hate" by tossing excrement and using homemade flamethrowers on them is perfectly dandy to the esteemed Senator from Arizona (and Mitt), it would seem.
Why is it so difficult for people in McCain's position to say it is never acceptable to return hate for hate? Did his mommy not teach him two wrongs don't make a right?
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"Defying hate" by tossing excrement and using homemade flamethrowers on them is perfectly dandy to the esteemed Senator from Arizona (and Mitt), it would seem.
Why is it so difficult for people in McCain's position to say it is never acceptable to return hate for hate? Did his mommy not teach him two wrongs don't make a right?
McCain and ilk are for whichever side empowers government.