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Title: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: mystery-ak on April 03, 2021, 02:22:48 pm
D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
By Jennifer Van Laar | Apr 03, 2021 3:30 AM ET


As we learned Friday, it doesn’t seem that the two teenage girls who carjacked Uber Eats driver Mohammad Anwar will face harsh punishment for their crimes, even though the older girl could probably be charged as an adult and the younger girl is a suspect in a January 2021 carjacking. One would expect equivocation coming from Mayor Muriel Bowser, SJW city council members, or perhaps woke prosecutors — but not from the D.C. Chief of Police, whose officers filed charges of felony murder and armed carjacking with a taser against the girls.

Sadly, Acting D.C. Police Chief Robert Contee III had some harsh and uncaring answers to questions posed to him by FOX’s D.C. affiliate about the case. When asked about the 13-year-old’s alleged involvement in another recent carjacking, Contee said:

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“That’s one of many. We have one for that particular –  one of the individuals involved, but there are several carjackings that we have had so far this year where we’re seeing individuals that are involved in multiple, multiple cases. So clearly I think that speaks to us really examining, as a community, the accountability that’s in place. You know, how is it that someone is charged with carjacking or is responsible for carjacking commits another carjacking and another carjacking? I think it’s the larger issue than just this one particular case.”

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https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/04/03/d-c-police-chief-doesnt-see-the-point-in-charging-teens-in-uber-eats-carjacking-as-adults-n354940
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: mystery-ak on April 03, 2021, 02:30:32 pm
Teenage Girls Who Murdered Pakistani Immigrant/Uber Eats Driver Almost Certainly Won't See Jail Time
By Jennifer Van Laar | Apr 02, 2021 9:15 PM ET


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If both cases remain in juvenile court, the maximum punishment either could receive is detention in a juvenile facility until they reach the age of 21, or sooner if they are deemed “rehabilitated,” according to WaPo’s review of the DC’s juvenile court procedures. Lindemann also told the judge that she hasn’t yet provided a proposed plea bargain agreement to the defense attorneys but would be doing so in the coming days. (It seems that providing defense attorneys with a proposed plea bargain agreement is the standard operating procedure and not any special treatment being afforded these hooligans.)

Since detention in a juvenile facility until age 21 is the absolute maximum, any plea agreement would surely involve a much shorter length of time in a detention facility, if any. A local defense attorney told DC’s Fox 5 that it could involve simply being on home detention or being on probation.

Given that these girls are already in the system in some way and their behaviors have only escalated, it doesn’t seem that the odds of true rehabilitation are great. It’s heartbreaking to see a 13-year-old girl so thoroughly corrupted by the evil of the world that it doesn’t seem she can be rehabilitated. Generally, we believe that juveniles can’t really appreciate the gravity of their actions, and generally, that’s true. Especially on this Easter weekend, we have to believe that redemption is available to all and that even those who have committed the vilest acts can experience a change of heart and transform. That transformation and redemption won’t happen within such a broken juvenile justice system, or in a society where 13-year-olds are already catching their second carjacking charge. Unfortunately, this goes way beyond being a juvenile justice problem. This is merely the latest example of how broken the soul of America is.

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/04/02/teenage-girls-who-murdered-pakistani-immigrant-almost-certainly-wont-see-jail-time-n354760
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: skeeter on April 03, 2021, 02:34:41 pm
This kind of obvious racism doesn't help the image of black run municipalities.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Bigun on April 03, 2021, 02:40:42 pm
This kind of obvious racism doesn't help the image of black run municipalities.

Like they give a flip about "images" at this point.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: skeeter on April 03, 2021, 02:57:55 pm
Like they give a flip about "images" at this point.
Given they depend so heavily upon white guilt for their wealth and power they certainly should.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: verga on April 03, 2021, 03:24:39 pm
The thin blue line is surrendering to the thick black line.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: mortarman on April 03, 2021, 06:11:04 pm
If they were white not only would they be charged as adults butt hate crime modifiers would have been added in force. Plus the Raysiss Propaganda Ministry For The Heterophobic Left-Wing Fascist Agenda would be subjecting the rest of us to sensitivity training for another month an' half an' we would have to pay reparations again.

 :pop41:
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Fishrrman on April 03, 2021, 09:21:07 pm
From Reply 1 above:
"It’s heartbreaking to see a 13-year-old girl so thoroughly corrupted by the evil of the world that it doesn’t seem she can be rehabilitated."

Hogwash.

My proposal for a Constitutional amendment (which I first posted here years ago, but will repeat):
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"This Constitution recognizes capital punishment to be an appropriate penalty pursuant to the due process of law.

As such, no Court of the United States, nor of the Several States, may declare the death penalty invalid under this Constitution, nor shall any of the Several States enact laws that do the same.

No person in the United States, nor in the several States, shall face capital punishment unless above the age of twelve years and six months."

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How's that hit ya...?
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Wingnut on April 03, 2021, 09:30:32 pm
I thought the DA set the charges not some SJW Chump of a PC? 
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Sled Dog on April 04, 2021, 01:24:09 am
From Reply 1 above:
"It’s heartbreaking to see a 13-year-old girl so thoroughly corrupted by the evil of the world that it doesn’t seem she can be rehabilitated."

Hogwash.

My proposal for a Constitutional amendment (which I first posted here years ago, but will repeat):
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"This Constitution recognizes capital punishment to be an appropriate penalty pursuant to the due process of law.

As such, no Court of the United States, nor of the Several States, may declare the death penalty invalid under this Constitution, nor shall any of the Several States enact laws that do the same.

No person in the United States, nor in the several States, shall face capital punishment unless above the age of twelve years and six months."

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How's that hit ya...?

Like crap.

If a state doesn't want to execute it's criminals, that's up to the state.

Someone violating federal law, though, like say...stealing a presidential election or giving 150 gigabucks to a sponsor of international terrorism like Iran, it's fine to execute those people.  It a national duty, really.


But if someone can't be rehabilitated, then they certainly can't be allowed out in civil society again, and thus they will be kept in prison for the rest of their lives.  That's just cruelty.  Like New York's Governor Cuomo said (the first one, not the philandering mass-murdering one they have now), "it's okay to abort children if their quality of life is going to be poor."

My own notion is that since the death penalty is sooo expensive because of the bottom-feeding lawyers, then people should not be sentenced to execution.  Nor should people be sentenced to life in prison, with all the benefits that gives them.   

Sentence them to "Death in Prison".   They go to prison, get to wear a really cool jumpsuit nobody else there wears, and they get food just like anyone else.    But if they're assaulted by the animals, well, that's what they themselves are.  No need for the guards to get their hands dirty, right?  If they get injured, well, hell, that's what animals do to each other in the jungle, so no need to a human doctor to be called in, right?   Then they die.  Their life in prison is over. 

While they are serving their terms, hopefully they're not in there for too long, the lawyers can file all the pointless appeals they can think of.   But the sentence is executed upon judgement, first.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: bigheadfred on April 04, 2021, 01:34:23 am
Like crap.

If a state doesn't want to execute it's criminals, that's up to the state.

Someone violating federal law, though, like say...stealing a presidential election or giving 150 gigabucks to a sponsor of international terrorism like Iran, it's fine to execute those people.  It a national duty, really.

 :patriot:
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: sneakypete on April 04, 2021, 02:42:55 am
D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
By Jennifer Van Laar | Apr 03, 2021 3:30 AM ET


 

@mystery-ak

It's gotta be said that a shared skin color probably has a lot to do with that.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: sneakypete on April 04, 2021, 02:45:59 am
This kind of obvious racism doesn't help the image of black run municipalities.

@skeeter

Why would they care,when it is practically illegal to question anything a black says or does?
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: sneakypete on April 04, 2021, 02:48:07 am
I thought the DA set the charges not some SJW Chump of a PC?

@Wingnut

There is no creature in the court system more political than a DA.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: PeteS in CA on April 04, 2021, 01:49:37 pm
I knew long before reaching age 13 that stealing and assaulting people was wrong. This 13YO and 15YO knew very well what they were doing and need to be removed from society so as to limit their ability to commit more and greater harm. That would be the point of charging them as adults.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Sled Dog on April 04, 2021, 03:26:17 pm
It would be different if the females were white and eight years old, I'm sure.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: goatprairie on April 04, 2021, 03:29:14 pm
I knew long before reaching age 13 that stealing and assaulting people was wrong. This 13YO and 15YO knew very well what they were doing and need to be removed from society so as to limit their ability to commit more and greater harm. That would be the point of charging them as adults.
There has been a plague of these carjackings afflicting numerous large cities in the U.S. in the past year. I would prefer to see a number of these thugs, regardless of age or sex, shot and killed by whomever (police or victim) to serve as a warning to other would be criminals. Enough is enough.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: sneakypete on April 04, 2021, 09:03:22 pm
There has been a plague of these carjackings afflicting numerous large cities in the U.S. in the past year. I would prefer to see a number of these thugs, regardless of age or sex, shot and killed by whomever (police or victim) to serve as a warning to other would be criminals. Enough is enough.

@goatprairie

I am not a betting man,but I am almost willing to bet that with the exception of a few southern states,ANYBODY that killed any of these teen black felons would be hit with capital murder charges.

When it comes to big cities,the animals are in charge of the zoo.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 04, 2021, 09:55:17 pm
This kind of obvious racism doesn't help the image of black run municipalities.


Yet,  they want to kill a white man (police)  for doing his job, on a black, drugged up, drunk, 7 time felon, with priors and 5 years plea deal prison time.  A PORN ACTOR, doing child sex slaves. FENTANYL KILLED THE DRUGGIE.  His family already received 27 million from tax payers & 17 million in GO FUND ME .  CRIME PAYS FOR BLACK RACE. We are in Somalia now.
George was a huge man too.  6' 7" or 8" and would not comply.  Running around, in his car, HIGH ON DRUGS.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 04, 2021, 11:35:07 pm
I knew long before reaching age 13 that stealing and assaulting people was wrong. This 13YO and 15YO knew very well what they were doing and need to be removed from society so as to limit their ability to commit more and greater harm. That would be the point of charging them as adults.


I agree..NOT THEIR..FIRST TIME.  Only got caught 2 times. Easter has nothing to do with it.  Why do LEFTS bring that in, an article to "guilt" CHRISTIANS?  Oh.  YES.
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Given that these girls are already in the system in some way and their behaviors have only escalated, it doesn’t seem that the odds of true rehabilitation are great. It’s heartbreaking to see a 13-year-old girl so thoroughly corrupted by the evil of the world that it doesn’t seem she can be rehabilitated. Generally, we believe that juveniles can’t really appreciate the gravity of their actions, and generally, that’s true. Especially on this Easter weekend, we have to believe that redemption is available to all and that even those who have committed the vilest acts can experience a change of heart and transform. That transformation and redemption won’t happen within such a broken juvenile justice system, or in a society where 13-year-olds are already catching their second carjacking charge. Unfortunately, this goes way beyond being a juvenile justice problem. This is merely the latest example of how broken the soul of America is.=ARTICLE.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: jafo2010 on April 05, 2021, 12:38:29 am
In a country with 350 million, people that murder others in the commission of another crime should face the death penalty the next day at sunrise after being found guilty.  Neither of these girls will ever contribute to society.  How many more people must die at their hands?  I say execute them swiftly.  Justice used to mean something in this country.

Justice no longer exists!

And this bimbo police commissioner has sh*t for brains!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 05, 2021, 05:40:55 am
Let me state the obvious. If those girls were white, they'd be on death row already.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Sled Dog on April 05, 2021, 01:57:04 pm
In a country with 350 million, people that murder others in the commission of another crime should face the death penalty the next day at sunrise after being found guilty.  Neither of these girls will ever contribute to society.  How many more people must die at their hands?  I say execute them swiftly.  Justice used to mean something in this country.

Justice no longer exists!

And this bimbo police commissioner has sh*t for brains!!!!!!!!!!!!

The next day?   They shouldn't be dragged out to the parking lot and shot right then when the verdict comes down?
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: sneakypete on April 05, 2021, 03:48:07 pm

I agree..NOT THEIR..FIRST TIME.  Only got caught 2 times. Easter has nothing to do with it.  Why do LEFTS bring that in, an article to "guilt" CHRISTIANS?  Oh.  YES.
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@LegalAmerican

That's the point. They didn't do it because they didn't know it wasn't wrong,they did it because they knew they would get away with doing it,with no negative consequences from the court system.

In too many cities in this nations,the laws ONLY apply to white people.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: sneakypete on April 05, 2021, 03:50:29 pm
[quote author. =Smokin Joe link=topic=433241.msg2407579#msg2407579 date=1617601255]
Let me state the obvious. If those girls were white, they'd be on death row already.
[/quote]

@Smokin Joe

No,they wouldn't. About the only time you see women of ANY race given the death penalty is when they are serial killers,and that is a rare event.

Howsumever,if they were white there would be NO question about them being tried as adults and given heavy sentences since they are already career criminals with previous felony convictions.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: sneakypete on April 05, 2021, 03:53:08 pm
In a country with 350 million, people that murder others in the commission of another crime should face the death penalty the next day at sunrise after being found guilty. 

@jafo2010

HorseHillary! Everybody that is human makes mistakes,and this includes juries and judges. This is why we all have the RIGHT to appeal a conviction and/or a sentence.

And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Restored on April 05, 2021, 05:00:29 pm
I got the vibe that there was some "The victim was asking for it" mentality.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: sneakypete on April 05, 2021, 05:21:57 pm
I got the vibe that there was some "The victim was asking for it" mentality.

@Restored

Has there EVER been a perp who DIDN'T have that attitude?

Until they were standing before a Judge,anyway.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: jafo2010 on April 05, 2021, 06:53:20 pm
Blatant in your face crimes like this do not warrant any kind of appeal process.  We got stupid about crime long ago.

In 1971, I did a paper on capital punishment.  With the data back then, it took 14.5 years to bring the average capital murder convicted felon to the death penalty.  I am sure it is much worse today.  So much for swift justice.  Studies show capital punishment is not a deterrent, and of course it isn't the way it is executed. 

But these two murderers taken out after conviction the next day, and shot, maybe that would register with these animals.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Restored on April 05, 2021, 08:43:16 pm
@Restored

Has there EVER been a perp who DIDN'T have that attitude?

Until they were standing before a Judge,anyway.

Not the perps. The government
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 05, 2021, 09:44:44 pm
Not the perps. The government
Right. The problem is and has been the reticence of the prosecution to do its job in cases like this, and its overzealous stance on other cases, all intimately linked with the politics du jour.


Ideally, the judicial system should have only one set of rules: the law, and that law should be observed regardless of the race, creed, color, gender identity, sex, sexual orientation, victim group, or other considerations which are routinely applied in some jurisdictions.

In practice, the system is anything but impartial.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: Sled Dog on April 06, 2021, 12:14:48 am
Right. The problem is and has been the reticence of the prosecution to do its job in cases like this, and its overzealous stance on other cases, all intimately linked with the politics du jour.


Ideally, the judicial system should have only one set of rules: the law, and that law should be observed regardless of the race, creed, color, gender identity, sex, sexual orientation, victim group, or other considerations which are routinely applied in some jurisdictions.

In practice, the system is anything but impartial.

We can't have an impartial legal system.

If we did, there'd be a wall around the US capitol, armed guards...just like today, but the inmates couldn't GET OUT.
Title: Re: D.C. Police Chief Doesn't See the Point in Charging Teens in Uber Eats Carjacking as Adults
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 06, 2021, 01:00:57 am
This guy CONTEE, also does not believe that attack, by a muslim, Noah Green, was a jihad. A terrorist attack.  'Not enough  people were killed'.  Duh, a police officer killed the Jihadist. Words by Green himself.
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Noah Green was identified in the suspect at the incident at the US Capitol on Friday.Facebook

“However, the path has been thwarted, as Allah (God) has chosen me for other things. Throughout life I have set goals, attained them, set higher ones, and then been required to sacrifice those things,” he continued.

His Facebook posts were first reported by MSNBC, which read them on-air.
Capitol Police investigate the scene after a vehicle drove into a security barrier near the US Capitol building on Friday, April 2, 2021.Bill Clark/Getty Images
Green allegedly slammed into a fence outside the US Capitol just after 1 p.m. Friday and struck two officers before crashing into a barricade.
Noah Green in a photo from his Facebook account.Facebook

Green allegedly got out of the car with a knife and lunged at an officer before being fatally shot, reports say.
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