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General Category => Elections 2024 => Topic started by: Elderberry on November 13, 2022, 12:00:04 pm
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WND by Scott Lively 11/11/2022
Scott Lively calls the effort to 'crown' Ron DeSantis 'a bait-and-switch con game'
The all-too predictable RINO campaign to defeat Donald Trump's bid for the White House in 2024, before it has even been formally announced, has begun. Interestingly, it features as its leading argument that Ron DeSantis would make a better president and wouldn't have all the "divisive" and distracting baggage Trump has. We're expected to believe that the RINOs actually want DeSantis as president, when all they really want is a Trump/DeSantis primary-season bloodbath so the White House will stay blue and they can keep their lucrative posts as willingly controlled "opposition" and preserve the corrupt cozy collegiality of the Purple Uniparty.
Does anyone really doubt that Mitch McConnell deliberately sabotaged the MAGA takeover of the U.S. Senate to preserve his own place and power? Does anyone really believe that the light-in-the-loafers Lincoln Project perverts would willingly let "Don't Say Gay" DeSantis get within a hundred miles of the presidency? No, the dump Trump to crown Ron is a bait-and-switch con game trolling for suckers. Donald Trump is not going away, and the only thing that will come from the effort to dump him is an expansion of the list of people we know can't be trusted to defend the Constitution and Truth itself: some because they never stood on principle in the first place and others because they are otherwise good people who nevertheless allowed themselves to be duped into the role of useful idiots, even after having their eyes opened to election fraud, the plandemic and other serious crimes of the elites.
Every virtue-loving American, but especially the latter group being lured into the RINO trap, should remember one essential fact: Donald Trump doesn't need to win another election to legally and morally deserve a second term in the White House. HE ALREADY EARNED IT IN 2020! The Usurper-in-Chief occupying the Oval Office is a filthy traitor whose every pronouncement is a pack of lies, and whose very presence behind the presidential podium is an act of contempt for the citizens of this country and our Constitution.
America owes Donald Trump a second term in the same way that a government-run impound yard owes a new car to a victim whose own car was stolen while under government protection. Our election system has a legal and moral duty to conduct free and fair elections and to ensure the rightful winner is seated after an honest, objective and transparent review of the votes cast by legally qualified citizens only. That process was hijacked and grossly abused by a vast network of conspirators of both parties, united by a visceral hatred of Trump so intense that it justified in their warped minds the greatest political crime in world history: a literal regime-change coup in the most powerful nation on earth and a cover-up of that crime, which continues to this very day using every possible weapon and tactic in their considerable arsenal. Not even the United States Supreme Court could stand against that conspiracy, as all the many highly meritorious lawsuits were derailed on cynical procedural pretexts – even the ones that reached the Supremes.
More: https://www.wnd.com/2022/11/america-owes-donald-trump-2nd-term-finish-job/ (https://www.wnd.com/2022/11/america-owes-donald-trump-2nd-term-finish-job/)
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They don’t call it “World Nut Daily” for nothing.
It is precisely this sort of crazy conspiracy mongering that demonstrates why independent voters do not feel they can trust Republicans. They don’t know who is more unstable – Donald Trump or some of his supporters.
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Whatever the source, the point is still valid. Besides, there are no other viable republican contenders in the wings (including governor DeSantis) who has an energized support base like Trump has. To pass on Trump in ‘24 would be a wasted opportunity and the biggest mistake republicans could make.
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Whatever the source, the point is still valid. Besides, there are no other viable republican contenders in the wings (including governor DeSantis) who has an energized support base like Trump has. To pass on Trump in ‘24 would be a wasted opportunity and the biggest mistake republicans could make.
All I'm gonna say is wasted opportunities is the GOP M.O. and whether Trump remains viable for being the republican candidate in 2024 will IMHO depend on if he can finally learn when to silence his mouth and thumbs.
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All I'm gonna say is wasted opportunities is the GOP M.O. and whether Trump remains viable for being the republican candidate in 2024 will IMHO depend on if he can finally learn when to silence his mouth and thumbs.
:amen: There are times when the best course is to say nothing and Donald J. Trump desparetly needs to learn when they are IMHO!
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After $6.8 trillion in new debt on his watch, promoting the previous RNC Chair as his Chief of Staff, and then appointing Ronna McDaniel to replace him, giving Pfizer hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to invent a fake 'vaccine' [sic] that doesn't work, and doing noting to investigate Fauci, why is it that we owe him a second chance?
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After $6.8 trillion in new debt on his watch, promoting the previous RNC Chair as his Chief of Staff, and then appointing Ronna McDaniel to replace him, giving Pfizer hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to invent a fake 'vaccine' [sic] that doesn't work, and doing noting to investigate Fauci, why is it that we owe him a second chance?
There's all that yes, but also energy independence, low inflation(but was it destined to increase with the spending), no wars, a much more secure border(wasted opportunity with the majority though) and another biggy was taking absolutely no crap from other foreign leaders and NATO and putting them all in their place as far as who actually needed who, also he wasn't bought and paid for by the Russians, Ukraine or China. If only he didn't go along with Fraudci shutting down the nation( if he could have stopped it) we would be in an entirely different world right now.
What's that saying, something about wishes in one hand sh!t in the other put them together and see what you get :pondering:
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America owes Donald Trump nothing. If he wants another term, he will have to earn it by fighting his way through the primaries like anyone else. As for avoiding a Trump/DeSantis bloodbath, who knows if Ron DeSantis will run? I am sure there is plenty of pressure on the Florida governor to do so, but he has not given any indication that he is going to do it.
The more Trump opens his mouth and reveals his vulnerability as a candidate, the more pressure there will be on DeSantis to go ahead and make a run at him. Personally, I hope he does, but I have long been of the opinion that DeSantis won't make a run in 2024 if Trump does.
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What's that saying, something about wishes in one hand sh!t in the other put them together and see what you get :pondering:
First it is pretty important to know the difference between wishes and sh*t.
Follow the money.
It ain't for nothing but keeping score, but keeping score is something it does very well...
And above everything, this:
Wishes are just as bad as sh*t to eat. When the money is gone, that's your choice.
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The more Trump opens his mouth and reveals his vulnerability as a candidate, the more pressure there will be on DeSantis to go ahead and make a run at him. Personally, I hope he does, but I have long been of the opinion that DeSantis won't make a run in 2024 if Trump does.
After speaking with some more trumpers I’m back on the side of DeSantis not running. They do not care whether Trump is a viable general election candidate — they don’t care that he is a piece of crap — they just think the 2020 election was stolen, and so he deserves another shot, and another, and another. Republicans have zero chance of winning the White House in 2024. DeSantis should do the best he can as governor, and try to salvage the country in 2028.
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After speaking with some more trumpers I’m back on the side of DeSantis not running. They do not care whether Trump is a viable general election candidate — they don’t care that he is a piece of crap — they just think the 2020 election was stolen, and so he deserves another shot, and another, and another. Republicans have zero chance of winning the White House in 2024. DeSantis should do the best he can as governor, and try to salvage the country in 2028.
I'm almost coming to that conclusion myself. Sadly.
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He's entitled nothing from us.
In 2024 he'll rehash the steal 24/7, levy insults, and give few if no reasons why we should let him off the hook for poor fiscal managment his 4 years.
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Whether or not Trump runs again is up to him. He will not succeed by bullying conservatives. He needs to put his bullying behind him and run on his accomplishments period. He has to let go of his tendency to run his mouth. I certainly can't and won't vote for him as he continues to stomp on conservatives (not that votes count anymore).
Now that the DEMS control the Senate our country is going to see monumental changes that won't be for the benefit of America. With that being said, I don't expect another election and certainly no Republican or conservative will be seated.
As I've mentioned before, the only positive and glimmer of light is that we still have conservative governors. Will the DEMS controlling the Senate be able to trample on the rights we have left under conservative governors??
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He's entitled nothing from us.
In 2024 he'll rehash the steal 24/7, levy insults, and give few if no reasons why we should let him off the hook for poor fiscal managment his 4 years.
You are correct. Trump is not entitled to anything. WE the PEOPLE are entitled to our rights under the Constitution. I'm afraid we're going to have to fight for those rights. I worry for my children and grandchildren.
Those Gen Z's that voted for socialism are in for a shock.
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You are correct. Trump is not entitled to anything. WE the PEOPLE are entitled to our rights under the Constitution. I'm afraid we're going to have to fight for those rights. I worry for my children and grandchildren.
Those Gen Z's that voted for socialism are in for a shock.
That is a great hope in itself - Fire hose mode continued and increased - Let's see how many like it two more years from now.
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After speaking with some more trumpers I’m back on the side of DeSantis not running. They do not care whether Trump is a viable general election candidate — they don’t care that he is a piece of crap — they just think the 2020 election was stolen, and so he deserves another shot, and another, and another. Republicans have zero chance of winning the White House in 2024. DeSantis should do the best he can as governor, and try to salvage the country in 2028.
@cato potatoe
Thankfully, my experience is different than yours. As much as they love the guy, they don’t want him to run in 2024.
I guess here’s hoping that my experience is more reflective of what happens than yours. Otherwise, we might as well say congratulations to President reelect Joseph Biden now
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That is a great hope in itself - Fire hose mode continued and increased - Let's see how many like it two more years from now.
Well, some of the best, long-term lessons in life are learned brutally
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Well, some of the best, long-term lessons in life are learned brutally
PAIN is ever the greatest teacher.
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Well, some of the best, long-term lessons in life are learned brutally
Very true, unfortunately.
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FTA--
America owes Donald Trump a second term in the same way that a government-run impound yard owes a new car to a victim whose own car was stolen while under government protection
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Whatever the source, the point is still valid. Besides, there are no other viable republican contenders in the wings (including governor DeSantis) who has an energized support base like Trump has. To pass on Trump in ‘24 would be a wasted opportunity and the biggest mistake republicans could make.
I'll pass.
Eff Trump.
Voted for him twice. His ego screwed him (and us) out of a second term.
He gets nominated....I'm not voting for either.
End of discussion.
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He's entitled nothing from us.
In 2024 he'll rehash the steal 24/7, levy insults, and give few if no reasons why we should let him off the hook for poor fiscal managment his 4 years.
He got our support in 20 in spite of the fact that the royally screwed up the COVID response (his unempathetic whinning, won't listen response). The lockdowns could have been hung around Bidens neck and sent him to the bottom of the Lake.
He lost that election himself. It was in his personal power to win it.
Trump can't shut when he knows he should.....that or he's too stupid to know when to shut up.
His barf continues to cost us.
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:amen: There are times when the best course is to say nothing and Donald J. Trump desparetly needs to learn when they are IMHO!
Wow....we agree on something.
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After speaking with some more trumpers I’m back on the side of DeSantis not running. They do not care whether Trump is a viable general election candidate — they don’t care that he is a piece of crap — they just think the 2020 election was stolen, and so he deserves another shot, and another, and another. Republicans have zero chance of winning the White House in 2024. DeSantis should do the best he can as governor, and try to salvage the country in 2028.
If Trump gets dumped in 2024 and you have someone who sounds sane, I think indies will pour to our side.
They hate Biden.
They hate Trump more.
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And it's time to get those crazy morons
Boebert and MTG primaried and shut up too.
We don't need that kind of asshattery.
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America owes AMERICA a second chance to clean up gooberment,and Rude Orange Man is the ONLY one in a position to do this because he is the only candidate that can afford to do it.
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America owes Donald Trump nothing. If he wants another term, he will have to earn it by fighting his way through the primaries like anyone else. As for avoiding a Trump/DeSantis bloodbath, who knows if Ron DeSantis will run? I am sure there is plenty of pressure on the Florida governor to do so, but he has not given any indication that he is going to do it.
The more Trump opens his mouth and reveals his vulnerability as a candidate, the more pressure there will be on DeSantis to go ahead and make a run at him. Personally, I hope he does, but I have long been of the opinion that DeSantis won't make a run in 2024 if Trump does.
Trump has announced he's running and the only opposition I think he's going to face is from the RINO's; Pence, Rubio, Mittens, Cheney, etc.
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America owes AMERICA a second chance to clean up gooberment,and Rude Orange Man is the ONLY one in a position to do this because he is the only candidate that can afford to do it.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
I think Trump sees the potential for succeeding in this election as the fulfillment of a civic commitment—he made promises to the American people to get certain things done, some promises were kept, but many were blocked or stalled in congress. He probably also has a personal interest in redress for his being shafted in 2020 and hounded throughout his first administration. And who could blame him, he was treated shamefully by denizens of DC, with zero benefit of the doubt.
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In for a penny, in for a pound.
I think Trump sees the potential for succeeding in this election as the fulfillment of a civic commitment—he made promises to the American people to get certain things done, some promises were kept, but many were blocked or stalled in congress. He probably also has a personal interest in redress for his being shafted in 2020 and hounded throughout his first administration. And who could blame him, he was treated shamefully by denizens of DC, with zero benefit of the doubt.
If Trump really was interested in serving the interest of his constituents he would have taken a different tact with COVID.
He just could not not let his frigging ego and arrogance get in front of him.
He owes me nothing and he's getting the same from me......nothing.
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Trump has announced he's running and the only opposition I think he's going to face is from the RINO's; Pence, Rubio, Mittens, Cheney, etc.
I don't see Pence as a RINO.
I think our friend if Florida is looking better and better every day.
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And it's time to get those crazy morons
Boebert and MTG primaried and shut up too. We don't need that kind of asshattery
Is this a sample of the "asshattery' we don't need @HikerGuy83 ? ------
@RepMTG talks about her resolution for an audit of taxpayer money being sent to Ukraine.(Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1593366673905549314
How about this --- is this more of the "asshattery" annoying you? --
Lauren Boebert: "Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi’s trillion-dollar spending spree has ruined our economy. It’s time to get America back on track!' (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1576204725774700545
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I don't see Pence as a RINO.
@HikerGuy83
Wow! Color me shocked!
Hooda thunk it?
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I don't see Pence as a RINO.
I think our friend if Florida is looking better and better every day.
Guess you missed him outing himself @HikerGuy83
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,484952.msg2740949.html#msg2740949
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After $6.8 trillion in new debt on his watch, promoting the previous RNC Chair as his Chief of Staff, and then appointing Ronna McDaniel to replace him, giving Pfizer hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to invent a fake 'vaccine' [sic] that doesn't work, and doing noting to investigate Fauci, why is it that we owe him a second chance?
Didn't the "vaccine" somewhat work on the original virus before it mutated? Will you admit that Trump did some good as president? I'm no fan of his increasing the debt, but he did have some good points. Was he perfect?...nope...none of them are.
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Didn't the "vaccine" somewhat work on the original virus before it mutated? Will you admit that Trump did some good as president? I'm no fan of his increasing the debt, but he did have some good points. Was he perfect?...nope...none of them are.
@mrpotatohead
You DO know he is rude,right?
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@mrpotatohead
You DO know he is rude,right?
LOL...yup...plus he posts obnoxious tweets. I like to focus on the positive work he did. He's for sure not a likeable guy, but I can't deny what he did for the oil industry, of which I am a part.
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If Trump really was interested in serving the interest of his constituents he would have taken a different tact with COVID.
He just could not not let his frigging ego and arrogance get in front of him.
You might want to explain this @HikerGuy83 ------ because the level of ignorance is off the charts.
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Didn't the "vaccine" somewhat work on the original virus before it mutated?
No, it did not. They just said it did.
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Didn't the "vaccine" somewhat work on the original virus before it mutated? Will you admit that Trump did some good as president? I'm no fan of his increasing the debt, but he did have some good points. Was he perfect?...nope...none of them are.
If we could make a vaccine for a virus the common cold would have been history long ago.
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Any and every candidate needs to tell us what they support and are going to do, not what we owe them.
That We the People thing and stuff.
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If Trump really was interested in serving the interest of his constituents he would have taken a different tact with COVID.
He just could not not let his frigging ego and arrogance get in front of him.
He owes me nothing and he's getting the same from me......nothing.
@HikerGuy83
Whine,bitch,repeat.
Rude Orange Man scares you,doesn't he,Bubba?
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LOL...yup...plus he posts obnoxious tweets. I like to focus on the positive work he did. He's for sure not a likeable guy, but I can't deny what he did for the oil industry, of which I am a part.
In the political arena he may not be likable to some, but biographers have noted that in his personal life he is friendly, well liked by employees and acquaintances, and people he met on the street.
They say that politics is war by other means. There are always enemies and allies. As a voter you just gotta focus on the greater good that aligns with your values, then pick your side.
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'We Will Make America Great Again' (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1592949257103110144
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Didn't the "vaccine" somewhat work on the original virus before it mutated?
No. The 'vaccine' [sic] only prevented the virus from coming in contact with the body's natural immune system by placing a protective coat over it.
Will you admit that Trump did some good as president?
Absolutely. I have done so many times. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020, despite the incessant denials and false narratives of his sycophants.
I'm no fan of his increasing the debt, but he did have some good points. Was he perfect?...nope...none of them are.
I never expected perfection from Trump. I just held out hope that he would be that guy from the Apprentice that fired people that needed firing or that he would declare a national bankruptcy so that the US would lose the ability to ever borrow money again. But I knew from his behavior in the primaries that he would never be a drain the swamp guy.
Good points? Yeah, he had some good points. He was phenomenal at addressing the press. He made a few good choices in the people he surrounded himself with. But he was never a swamp drainer, and never will be a swamp drainer. Trump is an entrepreneur. And I mean that in a negative sense. Because entrepreneurs have entrepreneurial personalities. They demand loyalty while giving none in return. They are incapable of taking advice from others. And they do not learn from their mistakes. When operating in the proper element, an entrepreneurial mindset can achieve the impossible. Unfortunately, government is not a good fit for Trump's skill set.
His season has passed.
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In the political arena he may not be likable to some, but biographers have noted that in his personal life he is friendly, well liked by employees and acquaintances, and people he met on the street.
All true. Donald Trump is genuinely a nice caring person. On a personal level, he has done tons of good on an individual basis. But these simply do not translate into likability on the political level.
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Will you admit that Trump did some good as president?
Recently, I had a conversation about the clown currently occupying the WH with a relative. They brought up the clown who preceded him. My reply was at least with that clown we had a fairly secure border and abundant energy