The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Timber Rattler on November 12, 2022, 03:07:46 am
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Pretty much says it all...
https://nypost.com/2022/11/11/trump-voters-are-done-with-ex-president-he-needs-to-disappear/ (https://nypost.com/2022/11/11/trump-voters-are-done-with-ex-president-he-needs-to-disappear/)
“If you’re a Republican in Pennsylvania and you look at Donald Trump’s bigfooting of the people in Pennsylvania and the implosion of his candidates in Pennsylvania, you’re pretty upset,” said Urban, a Washington-based strategist who grew up in Beaver County, Pa.
Urban said his phone has been ringing all week with county chairs and committee people who tell him they’ve had it with Trump.
“They said, ‘Look, we’re done. We’re done with him. He cost us this election and we’re done.’”
He’s not the only one. All day Wednesday my phone lit up with calls and emails from voters who expressed the exact same frustration. One woman said she saw the writing on the wall last weekend when Trump decided to take a swipe at Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — calling him “Ron DeSanctimonious” — while he campaigned for Oz and Mastriano in Pennsylvania.
And when Trump went on to tease that he was going to announce “something big” next week (presumably his run for president in 2024), she knew it would hurt Oz on Election Day.
“I had a pit-of-my-stomach moment as I watched the rally,” said the former Trump fan, who did not want to be named. “It is hard to quit Trump — I voted for him twice enthusiastically.” But “at this juncture, I think we have to move forward to a new generation of leaders.”
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Anybody got photoshop?
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How the unbearable extreme suffering so many people are going through that Trump hasn't been lynched by now, that they may live in utter ecstasy and pleasure knowing Trump no longer exists. Yet so many of them find no fault in the god they worship, Biden. They will find their due recompense in the times ahead. Bitter tears will avail them naught neither begging.
On the eve of destruction......
Eve Of Destruction Lyrics
The eastern world it is explodin',
Violence flarin', bullets loadin',
You're old enough to kill but not for votin',
You don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin',
And even the Jordan river has bodies floatin',
But you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
Can't you see the fear that I'm feeling today?
If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
There'll be noone to save with the world in a grave,
Take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
But you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin',
I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin',
I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation,
Handful of Senators don't pass legislation,
And marches alone can't bring integration,
When human respect is disintegratin',
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin',
And you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
Think of all the hate there is in Red China!
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama!
Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
But when you return, it's the same old place,
The poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace,
You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
Hate your next-door-neighbour, but don't forget to say grace,
And you tel me over and over and over and over again mi friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
Or one i changed a bit
The nuclear bombs are heading our way,
going to exterminate the human race today,
Don't worry be happy. I said don't worry be happy
The socialist utopia is almost here!
:reaper: :reaper: :reaper:
:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
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Pretty much says it all...
https://nypost.com/2022/11/11/trump-voters-are-done-with-ex-president-he-needs-to-disappear/ (https://nypost.com/2022/11/11/trump-voters-are-done-with-ex-president-he-needs-to-disappear/)
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The idiots of Pennsylvania have nothing to do with Trump. They voted for their own destruction. They voted in a stroked out idiot in Fetterman and they also voted in a dead Democrat to office. Now the liberal MSM are talking about Fetterman for president. How much more idiotic can this country get.
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killer moans:
"How much more idiotic can this country get."
See the film "Idiocracy".
You can find it in the torrents.
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The idiots of Pennsylvania have nothing to do with Trump. They voted for their own destruction. They voted in a stroked out idiot in Fetterman and they also voted in a dead Democrat to office.
The election had everything to do with Trump and his followers. Independents aren't going to vote for a bad candidate just because we like him better than the democrat. Doug Mastriano had an extensive resume of politically toxic actions and statements. Trump endorsed him in the primary over Lou Barletta. Dr. Oz is a carpetbagger from New Jersey whose qualifications were a TV show and the ability to kiss Trump's butt. Donald endorsed him over David McCormick, who went on to lose the primary by less than 1,000 votes. In doing so, Trump also cost the GOP three or four house seats as well as control of the Pennsylvania general assembly.
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The election had everything to do with Trump and his followers. Independents aren't going to vote for a bad candidate just because we like him better than the democrat. Doug Mastriano had an extensive resume of politically toxic actions and statements. Trump endorsed him in the primary over Lou Barletta. Dr. Oz is a carpetbagger from New Jersey whose qualifications were a TV show and the ability to kiss Trump's butt. Donald endorsed him over David McCormick, who went on to lose the primary by less than 1,000 votes. In doing so, Trump also cost the GOP three or four house seats as well as control of the Pennsylvania general assembly.
IMO the base holds a lot of the blame too, they're equally as idiotic.
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IMO the base holds a lot of the blame too, they're equally as idiotic.
They don't seem to understand that Trump's base is less than a third of the electorate. For every die hard Trump supporter out there, there are at least two people that will crawl over broken glass to vote against him.
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Donald endorsed him over David McCormick, who went on to lose the primary by less than 1,000 votes.
From what we're seeing now, McCormick probably won that election by 20-30,000 votes. The Dems picked who they wanted to run against.
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They don't seem to understand that Trump's base is less than a third of the electorate. For every die hard Trump supporter out there, there are at least two people that will crawl over broken glass to vote against him.
And that's were appealing to independent voters is were Trump failed. And by appealing, i don't mean a politician should pander
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And that's were appealing to independent voters comes in. And not to be confused with pandering
Uh-oh... I am an independent voter. :laugh:
All y'all are a long way off from any appeal...
Jussayin. :shrug: :whistle:
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Though a little pandering never hurts. :silly:
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killer moans:
"How much more idiotic can this country get."
See the film "Idiocracy".
You can find it in the torrents.
We're just about there.
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They don't seem to understand that Trump's base is less than a third of the electorate. For every die hard Trump supporter out there, there are at least two people that will crawl over broken glass to vote against him.
This is what happens when one exists in a bubble. They point to the size of his rallies as evidence of his popularity. But most voters don’t attend political rallies
And die hard Trump backers live in a very tight bubble
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This is what happens when one exists in a bubble. They point to the size of his rallies as evidence of his popularity. But most voters don’t attend political rallies
And die hard Trump backers live in a very tight bubble
Yep.
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They don't seem to understand that Trump's base is less than a third of the electorate. For every die hard Trump supporter out there, there are at least two people that will crawl over broken glass to vote against him.
@Night Hides Not
And they are ALL Dims at heart.
If the shoe fits,bubba.........
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The defeat Trump crowd have delivered democrat victories two elections in a row, then turn and swear its all Trumps fault. the3y manage to theive elections and demonize Trump, after they (democrats) get their way perverting elections and mindless people two elections in a row. They certainly are masters at manipulating fools and damn fools, no doubt of that! Two elections in a row demonizing and manipulating gullible fools, they sure are masters of that! Stealing and theiving too!
:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
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Yep.
If only everyone could be as brilliant and wonderful as you and LMAO.
You don't defend the Wokeness and insanity of Biden and Democrats. You simply attack Trump and feel very satisfied and superior.
http://Bidenisms.blogspot.com
http://DemocratInsanity.blogspot.com
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If only everyone could be as brilliant and wonderful as you and LMAO.
You don't defend the Wokeness and insanity of Biden and Democrats. You simply attack Trump and feel very satisfied and superior.
http://Bidenisms.blogspot.com
He's right in that.
Tumpy is no cure. Especially for Wokeness. Or insane Democrats.
Conservatism is the cure. Specifically fiscal conservatism. Take away their money and they are nothing.
And Tumpy has already proven to be the weakest sort at that.
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I'm done with him.
Have been for some time.
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Trump’s the guy that brung us to this dance—this dance being a masquerade, where at the end the masks come off and identities are revealed. Trump did just that.
It was because of Trump, who inexplicably brought out the worst elements of petty government officials and agencies, that Americans got a chance to look behind the masks of the hideous swamp dwellers in Corporate news rooms; DOJ and FBI; congress (both sides of the aisle); University boards; the brass at Pentagon and diplomats at State. And Hollywood. That’s quite an achievement for a real estate developer and tv star.
So I think I would like to dance one last tango. Trump 2024.
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If you're gonna throw out Trump, then Mitch needs to go too, and give Ronna the boot.
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Trump’s the guy that brung us to this dance—this dance being a masquerade, where at the end the masks come off and identities are revealed. Trump did just that.
It was because of Trump, who inexplicably brought out the worst elements of petty government officials and agencies, that Americans got a chance to look behind the masks of the hideous swamp dwellers in Corporate news rooms; DOJ and FBI; congress (both sides of the aisle); University boards; the brass at Pentagon and diplomats at State. And Hollywood. That’s quite an achievement for a real estate developer and tv star.
So I think I would like to dance one last tango. Trump 2024.
I can't deny that he was a good president. I just think he's delusional right now. Going after conservatives like he did back during the '16 elections is going to hurt him. The leftists are never going to allow him to run and will stop him at all costs. He needs to realize that he is up in years and needs to step aside and pass the MAGA baton on to someone else; otherwise he's going to destroy any chance that the GOP or a conservative has in winning.
Of course unless something is done about election integrity, this discussion is futile.
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He's right in that.
Tumpy is no cure. Especially for Wokeness. Or insane Democrats.
Conservatism is the cure. Specifically fiscal conservatism. Take away their money and they are nothing.
Yeah,and you are going to get there by jumping up in the air and clicking the heels of your magic ballet shoes.
And Tumpy has already proven to be the weakest sort at that.
And you and the other "Rude Orange Man Haters" are eaten alive with jealousy and envy.
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Yeah,and you are going to get there by jumping up in the air and clicking the heels of your magic ballet shoes.
No... The way forward is always the same. Serve the Conservative Coalition. All of it, from the ground up. Populism and stolen slogans cannot do that.
And you and the other "Rude Orange Man Haters" are eaten alive with jealousy and envy.
That's always your last gasp Sneaks, and never works on me. I have not a single iota of desire for the things Tumpy has. I wouldn't want a single damn bit of his life. As should be plain to see by now.
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No... The way forward is always the same. Serve the Conservative Coalition. All of it, from the ground up. Populism and stolen slogans cannot do that.
That's always your last gasp Sneaks, and never works on me. I have not a single iota of desire for the things Tumpy has. I wouldn't want a single damn bit of his life. As should be plain to see by now.
Amen!! :beer:
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@sneakypete you are again misguided about the motives of some Ultra Conservatives here.
We are not your enemy.
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@sneakypete you are again misguided about the motives of some Ultra Conservatives here.
We are not your enemy.
I give his chemo brain a pass. Let him vent.
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The pro-Biden, anti-Trump crowd are always the problem, despite assertions and 'clever' dances to the contrary.
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They don't seem to understand that Trump's base is less than a third of the electorate. For every die hard Trump supporter out there, there are at least two people that will crawl over broken glass to vote against him.
Yep. And one of those Democrats is either dead or fictional.
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It’s astounding to me that anti-Trump chatter can flourish so, even among those on the right who are critical of the main stream media as the public relations arm of the Democrat party.
Yet, since the election we have been sopping up as though it were gospel every negative Trump headline pumped out of the democrats propaganda machine.
Nothing’s changed about Trump. He’s still the same guy most of you gave kudos to when he appointed conservatives to the bench, or stood up to our foreign enemies, or cut taxes, or lured manufacturing back to the US, or spoke at the Washington pro-life rally—and a hundred other examples. Yeah, that’s the guy you’re throwing overboard. The guy who may not himself be a conservative, but loves America so much as to put her people first, and not global special interests.
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It’s astounding to me that anti-Trump chatter can flourish so, even among those on the right who are critical of the main stream media as the public relations arm of the Democrat party.
Yet, since the election we have been sopping up as though it were gospel every negative Trump headline pumped out of the democrats propaganda machine.
Nothing’s changed about Trump. He’s still the same guy most of you gave kudos to when he appointed conservatives to the bench, or stood up to our foreign enemies, or cut taxes, or lured manufacturing back to the US, or spoke at the Washington pro-life rally—and a hundred other examples. Yeah, that’s the guy you’re throwing overboard. The guy who may not himself be a conservative, but loves America so much as to put her people first, and not global special interests.
I have no doubt Trump loves America. Plus he's done all the things you list, which is actually remarkable. BUT...he's to the point of being so toxic that he's unelectable. Even Pence is on TV this morning trashing Trump and this was his Vice President. Why is it that a lot of the people he appointed can't stand him? He's had his place in history, now it's time to pass the baton to someone else.
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I have no doubt Trump loves America. Plus he's done all the things you list, which is actually remarkable. BUT...he's to the point of being so toxic that he's unelectable. Even Pence is on TV this morning trashing Trump and this was his Vice President. Why is it that a lot of the people he appointed can't stand him? He's had his place in history, now it's time to pass the baton to someone else.
Good post
On a lot of things, Trump had the right message. But he was the wrong messenger. And that matters to voters.
Earlier, when there was chatter in the media about Hillary Clinton throwing her hat in the ring again I said no way. She, like Trump, is toxic to general election voters. The Democrats wouldn’t do something stupid like give her the nomination
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Yep. And one of those Democrats is either dead or fictional.
So you could say that for every one hard-core Trump supporter, they are 4 that will crawl over broken glass to vote against him if you count the dead that vote twice
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@mrpotatohead
Toxic according to who? Mr. Anonymous Sources?
All I know is that if the headlines say jump, conservative republicans shout how high? We should be much smarter than that. It’s not as if the media hasn’t taken us for a ride before, is it?
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Honestly, and I will stay nuetral on this article..........
After electing a brain dead thug looking POS.......
I really don't want or care what anyone from Pennsylvania says
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Honestly, and I will stay nuetral on this article..........
After electing a brain dead thug looking POS.......
I really don't want or care what anyone from Pennsylvania says
And as crime continues to rise in New York City, I don’t wanna hear any bitching from those people who voted for Kathy Hochul
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@mrpotatohead
Toxic according to who? Mr. Anonymous Sources?
All I know is that if the headlines say jump, conservative republicans shout how high? We should be much smarter than that. It’s not as if the media hasn’t taken us for a ride before, is it?
Toxic to me and a lot of my friends. I guarantee you that we are not alone.
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Toxic to me and a lot of my friends. I guarantee you that we are not alone.
Well that’s anecdotal evidence. But I hear the same thing from people. However, they also don’t like the inflation and the open border and they also don’t care for Joe Biden.
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Toxic to me and a lot of my friends. I guarantee you that we are not alone.
You have every right to your opinion, as we all do.
To me, Trump is no more toxic now than he was in office. And because democrats fear Trump so much, he’s the man to beat. When you get a lot of flak that means you’re over the target.
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You have every right to your opinion, as we all do.
. And because democrats fear Trump so much, he’s the man to beat. When you get a lot of flak that means you’re over the target.
He's definitely the front runner. But I will repeat myself, and say that the next 6 months will be critical on whether DJT can uphold and maintain his electoral base. Crowd size and enthusiam will be a likely barometer of that.
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He's definitely the front runner. But I will repeat myself, and say that the next 6 months will be critical on whether DJT can uphold and maintain his electoral base. Crowd size and enthusiam will be a likely barometer of that.
Well, he’s certainly not a campaign manager’s idea of a disciplined politician. His stream of consciousness speech patterns gets him into trouble with the PC police all the time.
Well, what can you say? Trump’s a package. You want someone with America First fire in the belly, and an executive skill set tested in battle his first term?, you take the rest. You want someone with a score to settle walking back into a first meeting with alphabet agency heads about to roll?, you take the rest. I’m willing to take the rest.
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Well, he’s certainly not a campaign manager’s idea of a disciplined politician. His stream of consciousness speech patterns gets him into trouble with the PC police all the time.
Well, what can you say? Trump’s a package. You want someone with America First fire in the belly, and an executive skill set tested in battle his first term?, you take the rest. You want someone with a score to settle walking back into a first meeting with alphabet agency heads about to roll?, you take the rest. I’m willing to take the rest.
@aligncare
Seems like such a simple and basic concept that ANYONE should be able to understand it,doesn't it?
Yet people seem to be devoted to voting for more of the same,and hoping for change.
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Fu ck the Trump.
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aligncare:
It’s astounding to me that anti-Trump chatter can flourish so, even among those on the right who are critical of the main stream media as the public relations arm of the Democrat party.
Yet, since the election we have been sopping up as though it were gospel every negative Trump headline pumped out of the democrats propaganda machine.
Nothing’s changed about Trump. He’s still the same guy most of you gave kudos to when he appointed conservatives to the bench, or stood up to our foreign enemies, or cut taxes, or lured manufacturing back to the US, or spoke at the Washington pro-life rally—and a hundred other examples. Yeah, that’s the guy you’re throwing overboard. The guy who may not himself be a conservative, but loves America so much as to put her people first, and not global special interests.
People follow the leaders they love and love to emulate. Many of the democrats love to follow histories Nazi party tactics, Stalin and Lenins tactics as well. They are devoted to Satans lack of morality and some of them even brag about it , like upchuck schumer and Pelosi. Their home in the next life, no sane person would want their fates/destiny.
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Toxic to me and a lot of my friends. I guarantee you that we are not alone.
What do you mean by 'toxic'? Can you explain why you keep saying this? I honestly do not understand.
(Serious question)
@mrpotatohead
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Even Pence is on TV this morning trashing Trump and this was his Vice President.
You know Pence is going to throw his hat in the ring for 2024....dontcha @mrpotatohead ??
And, while I've got you, permit me to ask two questions: Why is it we're not seeing headlines that read "Pence Attacks Trump" --- or the same knashing of teeth, pulling out hair, and symbolic washing of hands to rid oneself of this mean-spirited Mike Pence we see played out ad nauseam when Trump 'attacks"?
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Pence is a 1 percenter. Delusional to think he has any opportunity to emerge out of Iowa.
My closest lifelong friend going back to sophomore year of high school, he went more liberal over the years while I went the opposite direction. One day he asked me in regard to Trump, how can you stand him? Listen to him? I said to him then early in his presidency, I don't listen to him. Truth be told, I can't stand listening to him and how he talks. True enough. But I told him, I don't listen to him, I turn him off. I judge him by what he does, and I am quite pleased by that, and only that is what matters.
But the UGLY TRUTH is that Trump is exhausting. For a man in his upper seventies, he is extremely immature, obnoxious, and down right ignorant. I voted for him both times. I will not vote for him again. FACT is he is a liar. It irritates me to no end to hear him say he upheld all his promises to the American people. That is a bold face lie. MAJOR LIE IN MY BOOK.
Trump promised to end the H1-b Visa Program DAY ONE of his presidency. HE DIDN'T!!! And I did not expect that either, but I did expect him to do something. AND I DID NOT EXPECT HIM TO MEET WITH TECH BILLIONAIRE OLLIGARCHS MONTHS INTO HIS PRESIDENCY AND EMERGE FROM THAT MEETING INCREASING THE H1-B VISA RECIPIENTS. BUT HE DID. He lied, and lied and lied. He has not fulfilled his promises from 2016. This was a major aw-sh*t that wiped out all his that-a-boys for me.
As one that has been on system development efforts funded by the federal government, with 120 systems folk and 100 of them from India working at half the salary and no benefits, displacing Americans from what would be considered high paying jobs, it bothers me immensely. IMMENSELY! The American worker is being betrayed daily, with the H1-b Visa Program displacing white collar workers and the INVASION of illegal invaders across our southern border displacing blue collar workers, it is nothing less than criminal in my mind, and Trump did almost nothing. Granted, he had near zero cooperation from his own party let alone the Democommies, but he did not get it done. He alienated almost everyone that crossed his path.
To be clear, we are talking 1.6 million Americans being displaced from white collar jobs by for the most part folks from India. It is wrong. Criminal in my mind and one of the worst betrayals of the American people.
Frankly, Trump announcing his candidacy two years ahead of time is literally a nightmare. That means I will receive emails and texts every day until election day 2024 from him and his organization. That will not win my vote. Frankly, I am sick of him. And I dislike him because of his lies from 2016 and now in regard to the American worker. His rhetoric was music to my ears, and in the end, he was a big phony. An outright liar, and to hear him say now he completed his promises, who the f*&^ is he kidding? He will turn off EVERYONE in tech that knows the UGLY TRUTH about this reality. We are talking millions of lost votes because he lies on this and he betrayed the white collar worker on the H1-b Visa Program.
Might as well have a rat like Biden as to have a lying double talker like Trump. He is clueless. And frankly, I am disgusted with the total failure of the Republicans to end the election rigging which was clearly evident from 2020. They did nothing, literally nothing in states where they controlled the legislature.
I now understand people that never vote. Why bother when the elections are fixed just like Russia, and the average dummy walking about is clueless.
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What do you mean by 'toxic'? Can you explain why you keep saying this? I honestly do not understand.
(Serious question)
@mrpotatohead
He is not popular outside his base of supporters. I see this even if his base does not. He got lucky in 2016 because Hillary had an open contempt for people outside the two coasts. I’ve heard people say”I can’t stand him” but can’t tell you why. Some of it is his own making but some is also the press teaching people to dislike him
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Pence is a 1 percenter. Delusional to think he has any opportunity to emerge out of Iowa.
Pence the Dumb two days ago cited algore as his role model. He's toast.
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Pence is a 1 percenter. Delusional to think he has any opportunity to emerge out of Iowa.
No, he won't. I'd almost come out of retirement to work against him.
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Pence with gore comments is now relegated to status of a Chihuahua biting at Trump's / DeSantis' ankles politically wise.
GOP in general will be laughing collectively at Pence by the time the primaries start. When Chris Cristie starts outpolling the last GOP VPOTUS? Doesn't get much more embarassing than that.