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General Category => World News => Topic started by: Gefn on October 20, 2022, 12:42:18 pm
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Breaking
BBC live
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-63309400
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Summary
Prime Minister Liz Truss has resigned as UK prime minister in a statement outside Downing Street
She said she could not deliver the mandate she was elected and had notified the King that she was resigning as Tory leader
There will be Conservative leadership election to be completed within the next week, she says
It comes after she met the chairman of the 1922 Committee of backbench MPs as more Tories called for her to quit
Truss's premiership came under renewed pressure after the home secretary resigned and a chaotic vote on fracking
There was fury on Wednesday evening around the vote and the methods used to get MPs to vote with the government
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-63309400
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Totally unrelated
It was weird to hear her say “His Majesty The King”
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Wow. That was fast.
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Yikes.
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Should have been the route taken by Joe Biden back in 2021.
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She folded like a cheap walmart lawn chair.
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She folded like a cheap walmart lawn chair.
Or a soft taco.
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This is what happens when you no longer hold the world's reserve currency. The US has a much worse fiscal situation than anything in north or eastern europe, so our turn is sooner than people think.
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Is the UK the new Italy - a new government every few weeks?
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The situation with the Tories is not dissimilar to the situation in the GOP. There is a large faction of globalists (including, perhaps, Liz Truss) who want to go back into the EU. And then there is a large faction of isolationists who are anti-immigration and anti-globalism. The differences between these two factions is irreconcilable, so they are unable to settle on a leader.
Boris Johnson may well end up coming back because he might be the only person capable of running the government and keeping his party together at this point. He resigned over scandals that by our standards seem tame.
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If the US had had a parliamentary system, Joe Biden would have been long gone by now. Hard to fault a system as swift as theirs. No confidence is hard to overcome.
You know, for all our talk about our better system, why would it take so long to correct an error like the Biden administration? It was illegitimately installed, with obviously impaired puppet leadership. Biden has been a total disaster for Americans—and democrats don’t seem to care enough to do anything about it while republicans are too feckless to make a difference.
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The situation with the Tories is not dissimilar to the situation in the GOP. There is a large faction of globalists (including, perhaps, Liz Truss) who want to go back into the EU. And then there is a large faction of isolationists who are anti-immigration and anti-globalism. The differences between these two factions is irreconcilable, so they are unable to settle on a leader.
Boris Johnson may well end up coming back because he might be the only person capable of running the government and keeping his party together at this point. He resigned over scandals that by our standards seem tame.
That would be - from the outside looking in - seriously funny in a way.
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Office of Prime Minister has existed in the UK since 1721.
Liz Trust tenure was the second shortest in Kingdom history at 45 days.
That record is owned by the Second Term of Arthur Wellsley, 1st Duke of Wellington (1769-1852) who had then office 23 days in 1834, (before QV). The big deal here is though this short term was due to change in political majority party from Tories to Conservatives.
This event is pretty unprecedented as far as I know considering considering there has been no offical MP political realignment. I'd say the UK is in some pretty deep shit.
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That would be - from the outside looking in - seriously funny in a way.
I have a very good friend in Britain who weeks ago told me that Boris Johnson resigned because he knew this would happen. Now it remains to be seen whether the rest of her prediction (that he will be re-installed with broad consensus of the Tories) plays out.
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This is what happens when you no longer hold the world's reserve currency. The US has a much worse fiscal situation than anything in north or eastern europe, so our turn is sooner than people think.
Been screaming this at a 100 db for ages. My projection is after the upcomng severe recession, we will be near or at 150% debt to GDP ratio.
When this house of cards falls, this country will be inproportionally adversely impacted. I mean it is going to get ugly. Really ugly.
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I have a very good friend in Britain who weeks ago told me that Boris Johnson resigned because he knew this would happen. Now it remains to be seen whether the rest of her prediction (that he will be re-installed with broad consensus of the Tories) plays out.
That would be interesting.
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Been screaming this at a 100 db for ages. My projection is after the upcomng severe recession, we will be near or at 150% debt to GDP ratio.
When this house of cards falls, this country will be inproportionally adversely impacted. I mean it is going to get ugly. Really ugly.
It's going to get worse than ugly. There will be people killing each other over a loaf of bread,the homeless will be invading homes in order to have a dry place to sleep out of the wind,abandoned cars will be scattered all over the place because their will be no gas stations open,hospitals will have armed guards,etc,etc,etc.
The "original Depression" will be a joke compared to this one because people back then were used to starving or thriving on their own,and the generations living now has many,many members who have never had a job in their lives that didn't involve selling drugs or stolen items for "side money til may next gooberment check bees coming in."
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Truss's premiership came under renewed pressure after the home secretary resigned and a chaotic vote on fracking
Sad, because she seemed to get that the future for UK's energy lies in natural gas and not renewables, and was moving things in the direction of producing more North Sea Oil and Gas, which would have helped.
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Joe wrote (of Truss):
"Sad, because she seemed to get that the future for UK's energy lies in natural gas and not renewables, and was moving things in the direction of producing more North Sea Oil and Gas, which would have helped."
Didn't she also propose lowering income tax rates as well?
Folks, what did this woman DO that was "un-conservative" in extremis?
Quite to the contrary, she actually seemed to be promoting a more conservative path for the UK. Is this not what the leader of the "conservatives" is SUPPOSED to do?
Color me... confused.
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Office of Prime Minister has existed in the UK since 1721.
Liz Trust tenure was the second shortest in Kingdom history at 45 days.
That record is owned by the Second Term of Arthur Wellsley, 1st Duke of Wellington (1769-1852) who had then office 23 days in 1834, (before QV). The big deal here is though this short term was due to change in political majority party from Tories to Conservatives.
This event is pretty unprecedented as far as I know considering considering there has been no offical MP political realignment. I'd say the UK is in some pretty deep shit.
The U.S. is also in some pretty deep schit.
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So. Boris is next in line? What a country!
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Joe wrote (of Truss):
"Sad, because she seemed to get that the future for UK's energy lies in natural gas and not renewables, and was moving things in the direction of producing more North Sea Oil and Gas, which would have helped."
Didn't she also propose lowering income tax rates as well?
Folks, what did this woman DO that was "un-conservative" in extremis?
Quite to the contrary, she actually seemed to be promoting a more conservative path for the UK. Is this not what the leader of the "conservatives" is SUPPOSED to do?
Color me... confused.
Me, too. For that political moment, it looked like the UK was on the right track. That was a glimmer of hope in a world given to Marxists and special interests.
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Me, too. For that political moment, it looked like the UK was on the right track. That was a glimmer of hope in a world given to Marxists and special interests.
Looks to me that the political elites in London aren't much different than those in D. C. i.e. It's fine to TALK a conservative game but actually DOING conservative things is verboten!
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Me, too. For that political moment, it looked like the UK was on the right track. That was a glimmer of hope in a world given to Marxists and special interests.
@Smokin Joe
The UK has been flooded with Muslim parasites,and these parasites vote. The Mayor of Longon is a Muslim.
These people do NOT believe in individual freedoms or thoughts,and they punish people that don't "wear red and march in a straight line".
They WANT to be cogs in a machine and told what to do and think.
Also,I have read that there are now districts in London where Sharia Law is the rule,and that traffic is even required to stop and the drivers get out and get on their knees in prayer.
I do not know if this is true or not,but I have even read that the British allows these people to live and rule by Sharia Law,and not English law. They have religious police walking the streets to enforce these rules and to publicly physically punish anyone caught breaking them.
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Alan McGuinness
@Alan_McGuinness
·Oct 19
My son has lived through four chancellors, three home secretaries, two prime ministers and two monarchs.
He’s four months old.
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@Smokin Joe
The UK has been flooded with Muslim parasites,and these parasites vote. The Mayor of Longon is a Muslim.
These people do NOT believe in individual freedoms or thoughts,and they punish people that don't "wear red and march in a straight line".
They WANT to be cogs in a machine and told what to do and think.
Also,I have read that there are now districts in London where Sharia Law is the rule,and that traffic is even required to stop and the drivers get out and get on their knees in prayer.
I do not know if this is true or not,but I have even read that the British allows these people to live and rule by Sharia Law,and not English law. They have religious police walking the streets to enforce these rules and to publicly physically punish anyone caught breaking them.
Paris, as well, and this is lunacy.
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but I have even read that the British allows these people to live and rule by Sharia Law,and not English law. They have religious police walking the streets to enforce these rules and to publicly physically punish anyone caught breaking them.
Where are the soccer hooligans when you need them?
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Where are the soccer hooligans when you need them?
@unite for individuality
They just believe in fighting for their team. Get the Muslims to attack their soccer team,and they will be out in droves.
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@unite for individuality
They just believe in fighting for their team. Get the Muslims to attack their soccer team,and they will be out in droves.
lol.... Sounds like an opportunity.
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I love these strong female leaders.
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Is it possible that Liz Truss resigned because Charles doesn't want someone so conservative?
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Is it possible that Liz Truss resigned because Charles doesn't want someone so conservative?
Doubt it.
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Is it possible that Liz Truss resigned because Charles doesn't want someone so conservative?
I think its been over 200 years since the King/Queens have actively intervened in U.K. politics as far as the P.M.
Doing otherwise, would hurt the public standing/opinion of the Royals.
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I think its been over 200 years since the King/Queens have actively intervened in U.K. politics as far as the P.M.
Doing otherwise, would hurt the public standing/opinion of the Royals.
The Prime Minister has a private meeting with the King or Queen every week.
Margaret Thatcher mentioned that when she was in office.
I am firmly convinced that Charles asked Liz Truss to resign,
because he wanted Rishi Sunak,
who has spent his whole career in the inner circles of global finance,
and is fully on board with Charles' goals of
draconian measures to combat "climate change"
and imposing a global totalitarian dictatorship.
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,483192.msg2727645.html#msg2727645
Would-Be British PM Rishi Sunak’s Family Runs A
China-Linked, World Economic Forum Partner Company
Pushing Digital ID and Social Credit Scores.
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The Prime Minister has a private meeting with the King or Queen every week.
Margaret Thatcher mentioned that when she was in office.
I am firmly convinced that Charles asked Liz Truss to resign,
because he wanted Rishi Sunak,
who has spent his whole career in the inner circles of global finance,
and is fully on board with Charles' goals of
draconian measures to combat "climate change"
and global totalitarian dictatorship.
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,483192.msg2727645.html#msg2727645
Would-Be British PM Rishi Sunak’s Family Runs A
China-Linked, World Economic Forum Partner Company
Pushing Digital ID and Social Credit Scores.
Unless he wanted to create a true constitutional crisis in the UK, the King can ask whatever he wants of the PM, but he could not expect to get it, and could not demand it.
Charles is almost certainly smart enough at this point to realize that a full-blown constitutional crisis would not get him anything he wanted, other than, perhaps, an awkward, early end to the royal family as sovereign head of the UK.