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Title: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: mystery-ak on September 24, 2021, 01:10:22 pm
GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
By Caroline Vakil - 09/24/21 07:41 AM EDT

An election audit prompted by the Republican-controlled Arizona state Senate appears to confirm President Biden won Maricopa County, Ariz., during the 2020 presidential election, several news outlets reported.

An official report by Cyber Ninjas, the contractor who was hired for the audit, is slated to be given to the state Senate at 1 p.m. on Friday, however, several news outlets obtained versions of the draft.

The Arizona Republic reported that versions of the draft it obtained showed that the hand count by Cyber Ninjas actually shows former President Trump losing the largest Arizona county by a slightly wider margin than the certified count. The certified vote count by Maricopa County found that Trump lost by 45,109 votes, however, the Cyber Ninjas audit found Biden won by 45,469 votes.


A copy of the document that Maricopa County had been given was given to The Republic by Tom Liddy, litigation bureau chief at Maricopa County. Because Maricopa County did not receive it from the state Senate, he could not verify if it was from Cyber Ninjas, however, an elections consultant who had a copy of the report verified that the document indicated the same findings the consultant had.

The results were not conclusive, according to The Republic’s draft report, but that might be because the final report has not yet been presented to the Arizona legislature.

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/573768-gop-backed-arizona-election-review-confirms-biden-2020-win
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 01:14:34 pm
An election audit prompted by the Republican-controlled Arizona state Senate appears to confirm President Biden won Maricopa County, Ariz., during the 2020 presidential election, several news outlets reported.

Uh, no one is questioning whether Biden won Maricopa County.  The issue is whether Biden had enough legitimate votes to win Arizona.  btw, how did the audit of those Maricopa routers turn out?
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: mystery-ak on September 24, 2021, 01:46:23 pm
Released this early this morning
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 01:53:32 pm
If you do include the 42,000 confirmed illegal ballots that were cast and don't include the uncounted legitimate ballots that were discarded after the deadline was reached, then Biden won.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: catfish1957 on September 24, 2021, 01:57:32 pm
McCain's ghost lurks the deserts as we speak.

AZ was one of those 6 states that mysteriously stopped and started reversing trends at the exact same time Election Night at 12:30 a.m.

I don't believe Pedo Joe won AZ, GA, PA, MI, PA, or WI for one minute.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: skeeter on September 24, 2021, 02:03:34 pm
McCain's ghost lurks the deserts as we speak.

AZ was one of those 6 states that mysteriously stopped and started reversing trends at the exact same time Election Night at 12:30 a.m.

I don't believe Pedo Joe won AZ, GA, PA, MI, PA, or WI for one minute.
Neither do I. I also think its clear the powers that be will never allow an honest assessment of the election, if it is within their power to stop it. Any more than they will allow anyone to force Hillary, Barack of Pedo Joe to account for a single one of their dozens of felonies.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 02:03:50 pm
Meh.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 02:05:12 pm
https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1441387483313414144
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 02:07:02 pm
https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1441382157612568578
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 02:14:25 pm
https://twitter.com/kelliwardaz/status/1441405042326532097
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: catfish1957 on September 24, 2021, 02:20:22 pm
Meh.

Awwww...

Brevity from our most connected Briefer? You can't or won't elaborate?
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: HoustonSam on September 24, 2021, 02:22:00 pm
GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
By Caroline Vakil - 09/24/21 07:41 AM EDT

An election audit prompted by the Republican-controlled Arizona state Senate appears to confirm President Biden won Maricopa County, Ariz., during the 2020 presidential election, several news outlets reported.
...........
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/573768-gop-backed-arizona-election-review-confirms-biden-2020-win

Not surprising The Hill would report it this way.

The premise of the audit is not that Maricopa County erred mathematically in counting the votes.  The premise is that many of the votes which were counted should not have been counted because they were generated by machine, or duplicated votes previously submitted by the same voter from the same address, or gave an address clearly seen to be false, or do not correspond to any requested mail-in ballot, etc.

The aggregate numbers for Biden and for Trump tell us nothing.  But this will be the media's approach to audit findings, if they report them at all.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 02:22:25 pm
The audit results will show that enough illegal ballots were counted (and enough legitimate ballots were excluded by running out the clock) to shift the election to give Biden an illegal victory.  Democrats are satisfied with that.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 02:26:24 pm
Awwww...

Brevity from our most connected Briefer? You can't or won't elaborate?

I don't believe either The Hill, nor the Arizona Republic.  They both have lied through their teeth, and they're all-in for Democrats.

Brevity, which is the soul of wit, calls for a "Meh."

Mrs. Liberty is having a "watch party" at HQ for the 1PM MST presentation from Cyber Ninjas.  Kelli Ward is having one in the State Capitol.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 02:30:31 pm
I don't believe either The Hill, nor the Arizona Republic.  They both have lied through their teeth, and they're all-in for Democrats.

Brevity, which is the soul of wit, calls for a "Meh."

Mrs. Liberty is having a "watch party" at HQ for the 1PM MST presentation from Cyber Ninjas.  Kelli Ward is having one in the State Capitol.

See Dr. Ward's Tweet posted above.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 02:39:19 pm
https://twitter.com/kelliwardaz/status/1441411186940006413
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Restored on September 24, 2021, 02:59:46 pm
Biden did win....by cheating
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 24, 2021, 03:03:31 pm
Biden did win....by cheating


He did not..
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 24, 2021, 03:03:55 pm
So it was a waste of time and money.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: skeeter on September 24, 2021, 03:08:48 pm

He did not..
Compelling argument.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 03:31:34 pm

He did not..

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Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 03:32:58 pm
So it was a waste of time and money.

What was a waste of time and money?  Discovering over 40,000 illegal ballots that put Biden ahead?  Is that what you're calling a waste of time and money?
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: yodaspock on September 24, 2021, 03:49:04 pm
The problem is that theses numbers their using still include the 45,000+ illegal ballots found, the real winner is when the illegal Ballots are removed.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 24, 2021, 03:52:25 pm
What was a waste of time and money?  Discovering over 40,000 illegal ballots that put Biden ahead?  Is that what you're calling a waste of time and money?


I'm so sorry that you are stupid enough to believe that Trump lost to Sleepy Joe Biden legit..
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 03:53:24 pm
The problem is that theses numbers their using still include the 45,000+ illegal ballots found, the real winner is when the illegal Ballots are removed.

But Democrats (and one person on this thread) believe that illegal votes for Biden should count.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 03:56:24 pm

I'm so sorry that you are stupid enough to believe that Trump lost to Sleepy Joe Biden legit.. Moron.

That's "Mr. Moron" to you, you DummieUnderground shill.  Thanks for confirming my previous post that you consider 'illegal' votes to be legit.

Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 04:36:08 pm
https://twitter.com/kelliwardaz/status/1441438395566198788
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 05:06:27 pm
So it was a waste of time and money.

Was it your time or money?  Then STFU.  BTW, it wasn't State money, either.  It was private voluntary contributions.  And, in my NSHO, cleaning up election laws is never a waste of time.

Your evidence-free assertions don't mean a damned thing.  You're been a Briefer for too long to not know that.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 05:07:36 pm

I'm so sorry that you are stupid enough to believe that Trump lost to Sleepy Joe Biden legit.. Moron.

Calling Briefers "morons," now are you?

Here's your warning, @kevindavis. You earned it.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: EdinVA on September 24, 2021, 05:10:18 pm
The GOP just gave the socialist an out.... Now the process will not get examined again...
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 05:58:50 pm
The GOP just gave the socialist an out.... Now the process will not get examined again...

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched....
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: mystery-ak on September 24, 2021, 06:36:09 pm
Reports: Leaked Arizona Senate Doc Says Maricopa Noncompliance Prevented ‘Complete’ Vote Audit

Michael Patrick Leahy24 Sep 202119
3:32

Several media outlets shared leaked copies of the draft report prepared by the firm hired to conduct a forensic audit of the 2020 election in Maricopa County by the Arizona State Senate early Friday morning, in advance of the official release of the draft report on Friday at 1 p.m. Pacific Time.

“What has been found is both encouraging and alarming. On the positive side there were no substantial differences between the hand count of the ballots provided and the official canvass results for the County. This is an important finding because of concerns ahead of the audit,” the executive summary in the draft report prepared by the Florida-based firm Cyber Ninjas, “Maricopa County Forensic Audit Volume I: Executive Summary & Recommendations,” dated September 23, 2021 and leaked to KJZZ began:

Quote
    However, while it is encouraging for voters, it does not allay all of the concerns:

        None of the various systems related to elections had numbers that would balance and agree with each other. In some cases, these differences were significant.

        There appears to be many ballots cast from individuals who had moved prior to the election.

        Files were missing from the Election Management System (EMS) Server.

        Ballot images on the EMS were corrupt or missing.

        Logs appeared to be intentionally rolled over, and all the data in the database related to the 2020 General Election had been fully cleared.

        On the ballot side, batches were not always clearly delineated, duplicated ballots were missing the required serial numbers, originals were duplicated more than once, and the Auditors were never provided Chain‐of‐Custody documentation for the ballots for the time‐period prior to the ballot’s movement into the Auditors’ care. This all increased the complexity and difficulty in properly auditing the results; and added ambiguity into the final conclusions.


The report then blamed Maricopa County officials for failing to cooperate with the audit.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/24/reports-leaked-arizona-senate-doc-says-maricopa-noncompliance-prevented-complete-vote-audit/
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 24, 2021, 06:41:48 pm
Calling Briefers "morons," now are you?

Here's your warning, @kevindavis. You earned it.


@Cyber Liberty I'm just calling Briefers who refuse to accept that Trump lost morons. Including you!
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 07:51:48 pm

@Cyber Liberty I'm just calling Briefers who refuse to accept that Trump lost morons. Including you!

@kevindavis

No one here is disputing that Trump lost Arizona (with 40K + illegal ballots tipping the scale to Biden).  The disagreement here is whether illegal ballots should be included in the final total.

The standard of most everyone here is that illegal ballots should not be included in the final tally, and that the submission of illegal ballots should be investigated and discouraged.  Contrast that with your standard that illegal ballots should indeed be included in the final tally as long as they generate the result you desire.  I suspect that if 50,000 illegal ballots in Trump's favor had turned up in Mojave County, thus shifting the election to a Trump victory, that your standard of counting illegal ballots would suddenly shift in the other direction, while the standard of most everyone else here would remain unchanged - a true standard.

You can call me whatever name you want.  But deep down you know that I stand for TRUTH while you embrace illegality.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 08:02:51 pm
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Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 08:17:50 pm
https://twitter.com/mdeperno/status/1441484556574593026
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 08:37:15 pm

@Cyber Liberty I'm just calling Briefers who refuse to accept that Trump lost morons. Including you!

You were warned. Enjoy your ban.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: mystery-ak on September 24, 2021, 08:44:52 pm
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1441503119582523400
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: rustynail on September 24, 2021, 08:45:36 pm
Mo-ron= more onto the truth of the situation?
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: catfish1957 on September 24, 2021, 09:07:28 pm

@Cyber Liberty I'm just calling Briefers who refuse to accept that Trump lost morons. Including you!

@kevindavis

Fact 1- At 12:30 a.m. Election night vote counting stopped in these 6 states simuteanously.  AZ, MI, WI, GA, PA, MI, and NV
Fact 2- At 12:30 a.m. Every single news outlet strangely broke from tallies to anlytical maps
Fact 3- Prior to 12:30 Trump was building leads in 5 of these 6 states (ex. NV)
Fact 4- After the 10-15 minute pause in vote counting in these states- Trends reversed, and Biden rapidly caught up and passed Trump in all 6 states

Don't beleive me?  Pull up the election day thread, and draw you own conclusions. @Right_in_Virginia  and I were discussing and watching this in real time, and screaming at the farce also in real tiime.   If you buy into that level of plausibility, you might want to hoist a mirror to pinpoint the idiot.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 09:18:40 pm
@kevindavis

Fact 1- At 12:30 a.m. Election night vote counting stopped in these 6 states simuteanously.  AZ, MI, WI, GA, PA, MI, and NV
Fact 2- At 12:30 a.m. Every single news outlet strangely broke from tallies to anlytical maps
Fact 3- Prior to 12:30 Trump was building leads in 5 of these 6 states (ex. NV)
Fact 4- After the 10-15 minute pause in vote counting in these states- Trends reversed, and Biden rapidly caught up and passed Trump in all 6 states

Don't beleive me?  Pull up the election day thread, and draw you own conclusions. @Right_in_Virginia  and I were discussing and watching this in real time, and screaming at the farce also in real tiime.   If you buy into that level of plausibility, you might want to hoist a mirror to pinpoint the idiot.

@kevindavis isn't disputing that these things happened.  He just happens to be OK with it if it means Biden wins.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 09:26:07 pm
@kevindavis isn't disputing that these things happened.  He just happens to be OK with it if it means Biden wins.

Doesn't matter, he can rail in the dark. We decided he needed the permaban.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: libertybele on September 24, 2021, 09:43:12 pm
You were warned. Enjoy your ban.

Thank you.  Much better than using the ignore feature.  happy77
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 24, 2021, 09:46:10 pm
More than confirming a Biden win, the audit really confirms the need for election reform.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: corbe on September 24, 2021, 09:46:58 pm
   Though he's been here almost 10 years  You handled that 'Cleanup' well.  wink777

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Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: catfish1957 on September 24, 2021, 09:49:55 pm
Thank you.  Much better than using the ignore feature.  happy77

Shocked he got a permaban, they I checked his posting history.  He was a Liz Cheney loving Troll.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: corbe on September 24, 2021, 10:00:46 pm
    IMHO He's been cruzin for a bruzin for awhile.  He just didn't post often enough to bring attention to himself.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: libertybele on September 24, 2021, 10:03:36 pm
More than confirming a Biden win, the audit really confirms the need for election reform.

Absolutely!!! How do we conservatives accomplish that?  Ronna as head of the RNC isn't doing jack squat. Election reform and integrity is obviously drastically needed before the '22 elections.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 10:16:04 pm
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Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: corbe on September 24, 2021, 10:17:47 pm
   I respect people that still believe this is a two party system and it is their valiant efforts that are keeping any HOPE alive, Bless You, but, IMHO  It is Past Time for another Party,

    Build it and they will come.   DJT 1998
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 24, 2021, 10:22:18 pm
https://twitter.com/NotAlexSheppard/status/1441516560208867333
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 10:53:44 pm
Photoshopped Ballots? AZ Auditors Say 'Verified and Approved' Stamp Mysteriously Present Behind Signature Blocks

Michael Austin   |   September 24, 2021  |  3:02pm


There were many shocking revelations forwarded on Friday during the Arizona Senate Republicans’ hearing on the Maricopa County 2020 election audit results.

Among the findings were that a number of the ballots appear to be digitally altered or “photoshopped,” although investigators have yet to officially confirm this.

The allegedly digitally altered ballots were highlighted by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, an expert in pattern recognition enlisted in the audit investigation by the Arizona Senate.

Ayyadurai revealed that, during the audit, election officials discovered a number of ballots were given “verified and approved” stamps despite signatures not being present on the ballots.

Curiously, in some instances, these “verified and approved” stamps were found behind graphics that were initially printed on the ballots, according to a presentation displayed by Ayyadurai.  .  .

https://www.westernjournal.com/photoshopped-ballots-az-auditors-say-verified-approved-stamp-mysteriously-present-behind-signature-blocks/
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: mystery-ak on September 24, 2021, 11:00:56 pm
‘Decertify!’: Trump Supporters Explode After Seeing What’s Actually In Arizona Election Audit Results

The official Arizona Senate election audit report is in – and Trump supporters are calling for the state’s 2020 election to be ‘decertified.’ The results showed “57,734 ballots with serious issues were identified.” If those ballots were not counted, that would be far beyond the margin of victory needed to overturn the results of the election. The independent auditors recommended that “the election should not be certified.”

In addition, there were more disturbing findings, according to Cyber Ninjas: A Dominion technician allegedly deleted all of the log files a day before the audit began, while other security lapses abounded. Trump supporters and election integrity advocates exploded at the findings on Twitter:

https://trendingpolitics.com/decertify-trump-supporters-explode-after-seeing-whats-actually-in-arizona-election-audit-results-knab/
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 11:03:18 pm
Photoshopped Ballots? AZ Auditors Say 'Verified and Approved' Stamp Mysteriously Present Behind Signature Blocks

Michael Austin   |   September 24, 2021  |  3:02pm


There were many shocking revelations forwarded on Friday during the Arizona Senate Republicans’ hearing on the Maricopa County 2020 election audit results.

Among the findings were that a number of the ballots appear to be digitally altered or “photoshopped,” although investigators have yet to officially confirm this.

The allegedly digitally altered ballots were highlighted by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, an expert in pattern recognition enlisted in the audit investigation by the Arizona Senate.

Ayyadurai revealed that, during the audit, election officials discovered a number of ballots were given “verified and approved” stamps despite signatures not being present on the ballots.

Curiously, in some instances, these “verified and approved” stamps were found behind graphics that were initially printed on the ballots, according to a presentation displayed by Ayyadurai.  .  .

https://www.westernjournal.com/photoshopped-ballots-az-auditors-say-verified-approved-stamp-mysteriously-present-behind-signature-blocks/

I was shocked when I saw this!
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: DB on September 24, 2021, 11:05:56 pm
I was shocked when I saw this!

I just hope their analysis is correct. If claims like this get proven incorrect it will torpedo the whole thing.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 11:08:05 pm
Next stop:  Pima County.  Let the Pima County audit begin!
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 11:17:17 pm
@Cyber Liberty

You're our eyes on the ground.  How is the crowd at the State Capitol looking?

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Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 25, 2021, 12:07:18 am
@Cyber Liberty

You're our eyes on the ground.  How is the crowd at the State Capitol looking?

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I dunno.  That's in Phoenix.  Where I live, we had a "watch party" where a bunch of the Precinct Committeemen got together and watched today's hearing.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 25, 2021, 12:09:54 am
I can say this right now:  The title of this topic is full of shit.  I got a copy of the "Draft Report," and watched the presentation at the Senate, and this in no way "confirmed Biden won."
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Victoria33 on September 25, 2021, 12:11:25 am
McCain's ghost lurks the deserts as we speak.
AZ was one of those 6 states that mysteriously stopped and started reversing trends at the exact same time Election Night at 12:30 a.m.
@cafish1957

Hello, catfish.  States have a set time to begin the process of counting mail ballots. Some cannot start until all other regular votes come in, some use wait until the polls close, then start processing mail ballots. Some states start validating mail ballots days before voting day, then count the ballots on election day along with early voting ballots. Those two groups, in Texas, are the first totals to come in and appear on the Secretary of State's election board.  Anyone can watch those two group totals as they come in.

On election day, I knew states with election law that started processing mail ballots after the polls had closed, or the next day, which would be after midnight of election day, would cause major trauma  with people who did not know their state election law regarding mail ballots.

Starting to process mail ballots after non-mail ballots were counted or after polls closed, caused a pause in ballot counting in the night, then mail ballot numbers began to come in.  People used that pause, to complain the election was rigged.

Say what you will in answer, but I will not respond to attackers.  I spent 14 to 16 years teaching election law to counties in Texas and that included a separate workshop on mail ballots.  If you want to know what your state election laws are, buy your state's election lawbook.

The new Texas Election Code lawbook may be out in October, but surely will in November.
Please buy your state's law book when the new one comes out, so you will know for sure what your state election laws are.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 25, 2021, 12:21:37 am
@cafish1957

Hello, catfish.  States have a set time to begin the process of counting mail ballots. Some cannot start until all other regular votes come in, some use wait until the polls close, then start processing mail ballots. Some states start validating mail ballots days before voting day, then count the ballots on election day along with early voting ballots. Those two groups, in Texas, are the first totals to come in and appear on the Secretary of State's election board.  Anyone can watch those two group totals as they come in.

On election day, I knew states with election law that started processing mail ballots after the polls had closed, or the next day, which would be after midnight of election day, would cause major trauma  with people who did not know their state election law regarding mail ballots.

Starting to process mail ballots after non-mail ballots were counted or after polls closed, caused a pause in ballot counting in the night, then mail ballot numbers began to come in.  People used that pause, to complain the election was rigged.

Say what you will in answer, but I will not respond to attackers.  I spent 14 to 16 years teaching election law to counties in Texas and that included a separate workshop on mail ballots.  If you want to know what your state election laws are, buy your state's election lawbook.

The new Texas Election Code lawbook may be out in October, but surely will in November.
Please buy your state's law book when the new one comes out, so you will know for sure what your state election laws are.

In the 6 states @catfish1957 mentioned, they didn't really stop the counting 11/3 and 11/4.  They threw the Republican observers out and kept counting with Democrat observers only. 

Try telling me that was legal.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 12:33:59 am
Starting to process mail ballots after non-mail ballots were counted or after polls closed, caused a pause in ballot counting in the night, then mail ballot numbers began to come in.  People used that pause, to complain the election was rigged.

But that's not what happened in those six States.
As for the late counting of ballots in Arizona, the late ballots were coming in Trump's way.  If the fractions continued the way they were coming in, there were enough uncounted ballots remaining that would have tipped the result to Trump.  So the County election board slowed the counting down to a crawl, trying to run out the clock and make it to the filing deadline before all the votes were counted.  Once that deadline hit, all remaining uncounted ballots were tossed out.


Say what you will in answer, but I will not respond to attackers.  I spent 14 to 16 years teaching election law to counties in Texas and that included a separate workshop on mail ballots.  If you want to know what your state election laws are, buy your state's election lawbook.

None of that does any good when the law isn't followed.  Which is what happened in each of these six States.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 12:36:02 am
In the 6 states @catfish1957 mentioned, they didn't really stop the counting 11/3 and 11/4.  They threw the Republican observers out and kept counting with Democrat observers only. 

Try telling me that was legal.

If the law had been followed in Georgia, Trump would have won by over 100,000 votes.  The GOP also would have picked up 2 Senate seats and one House seat.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: libertybele on September 25, 2021, 12:38:45 am
But that's not what happened in those six States.
As for the late counting of ballots in Arizona, the late ballots were coming in Trump's way.  If the fractions continued the way they were coming in, there were enough uncounted ballots remaining that would have tipped the result to Trump.  So the County election board slowed the counting down to a crawl, trying to run out the clock and make it to the filing deadline before all the votes were counted.  Once that deadline hit, all remaining uncounted ballots were tossed out.


None of that does any good when the law isn't followed.  Which is what happened in each of these six States.

Exactly.   We must find a way forward to ensure fair elections in the future. 
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: BassWrangler on September 25, 2021, 12:44:47 am
I guess this is just the Dems getting something out ahead of the story about the fraud. Then they can have their stock reply which will be "The audit showed more votes for Biden".
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 25, 2021, 12:45:11 am
But that's not what happened in those six States.
As for the late counting of ballots in Arizona, the late ballots were coming in Trump's way.  If the fractions continued the way they were coming in, there were enough uncounted ballots remaining that would have tipped the result to Trump.  So the County election board slowed the counting down to a crawl, trying to run out the clock and make it to the filing deadline before all the votes were counted.  Once that deadline hit, all remaining uncounted ballots were tossed out.


None of that does any good when the law isn't followed.  Which is what happened in each of these six States.

 :amen: to the part I emphasized
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: BassWrangler on September 25, 2021, 12:49:26 am
If the law had been followed in Georgia, Trump would have won by over 100,000 votes.  The GOP also would have picked up 2 Senate seats and one House seat.

They just don't care. They're not going to follow the law. They're just going to keep cheating, and in fact probably ramp it up even more. And we're just going to keep complaining about it, but nothing ever gets done to stop it.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 25, 2021, 12:49:57 am
A summation by Senator Wendy Rogers:

https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1441543328437211141
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: skeeter on September 25, 2021, 12:51:51 am
They just don't care. They're not going to follow the law. They're just going to keep cheating, and in fact probably ramp it up even more. And we're just going to keep complaining about it, but nothing ever gets done to stop it.
Sure they’ll keep lying, just like the headline to this article lies.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: EdinVA on September 25, 2021, 12:51:58 am
:amen: to the part I emphasized
If you don't follow the law/process, then it does not exist so, in an amusing way (in a twisted sorta way)  how do you reform something that does not exist?
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: BassWrangler on September 25, 2021, 12:53:35 am
Sure they’ll keep lying, just like the headline to this article lies.

We need another strategy.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 25, 2021, 12:54:30 am
ELECTION AUDIT DOCUMENTS (https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/audit)
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 25, 2021, 12:56:51 am
ELECTION AUDIT DOCUMENTS (https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/audit)

Thanks a Trillion for that!  This report has been completely mischaracterized by the Arizona Republic (a Gannet paper).  It's damning.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 12:59:24 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAFfcDEWQAARCMe?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 25, 2021, 01:01:32 am
Thanks a Trillion for that!  This report has been completely mischaracterized by the Arizona Republic (a Gannet paper).  It's damning.

The media is spinning like a top but they cannot change the truth!
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 25, 2021, 01:04:54 am
If you don't follow the law/process, then it does not exist so, in an amusing way (in a twisted sorta way)  how do you reform something that does not exist?

There are plenty of laws on the books @EdinVA Getting them enforced in Dimocrat strongholds is the difficult part!
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: EdinVA on September 25, 2021, 01:05:15 am
Ok, so what happens now?
Folks upset either way we go with this....
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 01:08:48 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAFcG4ZVUBMrl1T?format=png&name=900x900)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAFcGzDXsAAF2B8?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: BassWrangler on September 25, 2021, 01:11:28 am
ELECTION AUDIT DOCUMENTS (https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/audit)

I went through the two presentations. Overall, my impression is that what we saw here primarily falls into these categories:


What I don't see is any evidence of Kraken or other wide-spread organized voter fraud. However, it is of course suspicious that Maricopa county officials refused to hand over the requested data that would have been needed to show something like that.

My assessment is that this is going to turn out to be another nothingburger.  At best we can hope the laws in AZ are strengthened, although given the Democrats penchant to just ignore the laws, it's not clear how much this will help.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 01:42:57 am
My assessment is that this is going to turn out to be another nothingburger.  At best we can hope the laws in AZ are strengthened, although given the Democrats penchant to just ignore the laws, it's not clear how much this will help.

What I hope for as we go through each State is that it becomes clear and generally accepted by a majority of voters that Joe Biden did not win this election, and that the Democrats literally stole it.  I don't think it can be overturned, but I want there to be far more vigilance next time.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 25, 2021, 01:46:21 am
I went through the two presentations. Overall, my impression is that what we saw here primarily falls into these categories:

  • fraud conducted by individuals that should have been caught by officials, but wasn't due to sloppy practices (intentional or unintentional, I can't say)
  • Some relatively small number of shenanigans with ballots being counted multiple times, impossible to say how much of this if any was organized, versus incompetence, versus actions of corrupt individuals at the polls.

What I don't see is any evidence of Kraken or other wide-spread organized voter fraud. However, it is of course suspicious that Maricopa county officials refused to hand over the requested data that would have been needed to show something like that.

My assessment is that this is going to turn out to be another nothingburger.  At best we can hope the laws in AZ are strengthened, although given the Democrats penchant to just ignore the laws, it's not clear how much this will help.

You must have missed the parts posted earlier today @BassWrangler

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,449247.msg2502093.html#msg2502093
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 02:18:24 am
https://rumble.com/embed/vkbc9l/
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 25, 2021, 04:47:29 am
GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
By Caroline Vakil - 09/24/21 07:41 AM EDT

An election audit prompted by the Republican-controlled Arizona state Senate appears to confirm President Biden won Maricopa County, Ariz., during the 2020 presidential election, several news outlets reported.

The Arizona Republic reported that versions of the draft it obtained showed that the hand count by Cyber Ninjas actually shows former President Trump losing the largest Arizona county by a slightly wider margin than the certified count. The certified vote count by Maricopa County found that Trump lost by 45,109 votes, however, the Cyber Ninjas audit found Biden won by 45,469 votes.

Here's what The Hill is reporting:  The audit confirmed a suitcase contained $1,000.  Here's what they're not reporting:  $600 was monopoly money.

Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 25, 2021, 04:50:40 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/JackHadders/status/1441575078320345089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 25, 2021, 04:52:29 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1441558413637468160
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 25, 2021, 04:54:50 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisEP/status/1441239529378107396
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 25, 2021, 05:15:35 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1441530148956909569
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 25, 2021, 05:34:15 am
The presentation was very good, and the Rats of the Press will be spinning the story at the top of this thread.  It's all lies, the presentation I saw, and the written report (I got to see a copy of the "draft report") does not come close to matching the headline.

I was most shocked by the obvious photo shop of an Early Vote Ballot envelope.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: BassWrangler on September 25, 2021, 06:45:10 am
You must have missed the parts posted earlier today @BassWrangler

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,449247.msg2502093.html#msg2502093

No, I went through the documents from CyberNinjas, so I saw this.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: sneakypete on September 25, 2021, 07:31:16 am
Anybody know what kind of "New Math"they used to tally the votes?

Biden actually winning legitimately is the equivalent of me flapping my arms and flying to the moon.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 25, 2021, 11:12:07 am
Absolutely!!! How do we conservatives accomplish that?  Ronna as head of the RNC isn't doing jack squat. Election reform and integrity is obviously drastically needed before the '22 elections.

For those GOP states that haven't done it yet, that's where activists need to push.

Ronna doesn't control the state and local GOP, who are usually more amenable to that issue.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 25, 2021, 11:41:22 am
Anybody know what kind of "New Math"they used to tally the votes?

Biden actually winning legitimately is the equivalent of me flapping my arms and flying to the moon.
Toilet Paper math. Y'know, like 16=48
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 25, 2021, 03:09:46 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1441744971485360131
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 25, 2021, 03:11:42 pm
 9999hair out0000

https://mobile.twitter.com/catturd2/status/1441735539384676355
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 25, 2021, 03:14:03 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1441602390516400134
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 25, 2021, 03:43:08 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1441602390516400134

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/085/898/458/original/487dc977b16d7ded.jpeg)
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: catfish1957 on September 25, 2021, 03:52:58 pm
In retrospect, if Biden had not stolen those 6 states, Trump would have had 311 EV, and would have been re-elected.

The dims are hell bent, on making sure 2016 never repeats by (1) Flooding the electoral rolls with immigrants, and doing away with the electoral college.  They want no strategy in the process.  Just stack the deck, make sure they win the popularity contest.

Considering the circumstances, I have a gut feeling that stuffing the ballot was a lot more prevalent than just the 7 states the dims tried to steal.  Anyone thinking 81M pulling the lever for this demential ridden pedo is just isn't reading the plausability of it..
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 25, 2021, 03:56:11 pm
In retrospect, if Biden had not stolen those 6 states, Trump would have had 311 EV, and would have been re-elected.

The dims are hell bent, on making sure 2016 never repeats by (1) Flooding the electoral rolls with immigrants, and doing away with the electoral college.  They want no strategy in the process.  Just stack the deck, make sure they win the popularity contest.

Considering the circumstances, I have a gut feeling that stuffing the ballot was a lot more prevalent than just the 7 states the dims tried to steal.  Anyone thinking 81M pulling the lever for this demential ridden pedo is just isn't reading the plausability of it..

No one will ever convince me that anything about the 2020 election was truly legitimate.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 03:56:15 pm
Catturd ™
@catturd2
This is how Fox News mentioned the audit ... They know this is deceitful and not what an audit actual does - but they don't care, because they were in on it.

Heck yes, they're in on it.  If you want any honest election reporting, OAN is your only cable source.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: catfish1957 on September 25, 2021, 03:58:15 pm
Heck yes, they're in on it.  If you want any honest election reporting, OAN is your only cable source.

The MSM lies even when the actual news item is the opposite.

When the war starts, I hope we priortize correctly.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 04:01:58 pm
No one will ever convince me that anything about the 2020 election was truly legitimate.

No one even makes the attempt.  There is never a counter to any instance of illegality that is brought up.  They have but one premise - 'Biden won' - which they repeat ad infinitum.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: catfish1957 on September 25, 2021, 04:06:57 pm
No one even makes the attempt.  There is never a counter to any instance of illegality that is brought up.  They have but one premise - 'Biden won' - which they repeat ad infinitum.

Anyone thinking the Deep State and the Swamp were going allow themselves to be defrocked had another thing coming.
That is why I do not think Trump will be elected in '24.  This corrupted government is just not going to let it happen.

'16 was an a shock and an anomaly.  The didn't think Trump could win. 

The MSM is now, and probably worse that Pravda in the days of USSR. So they along with Big Tech have all angles covered.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Hoodat on September 25, 2021, 04:45:26 pm
'16 was an a shock and an anomaly.  The didn't think Trump could win.

It sickens me that the GOP was perfectly content surrendering the White House to Hillary Clinton.   The GOPe embraced Trump's candidacy for three reasons:



The MSM is now, and probably worse that Pravda in the days of USSR. So they along with Big Tech have all angles covered.

Unlike Pravda and Tass, our current MSM does so by choice.  At least their Soviet counterparts did it at gunpoint.
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: BassWrangler on September 25, 2021, 04:50:11 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1441744971485360131

That's a good point about the legal limit.

People are going to be at a boiling point if they learn about this and then it is swept under the rug (which is why I think MSM just won't cover it)
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: Bigun on September 25, 2021, 06:29:31 pm
https://twitter.com/GeneralBrnovich/status/1441470188419907586
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: mystery-ak on September 25, 2021, 06:36:32 pm
Arizona Senate Report on the Maricopa County Election Audit Highlights 49,000 Questionable Votes, Asks AG to Investigate
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/25/arizona-senate-draft-report-on-the-maricopa-county-election-audit-highlights-49000-questionable-votes-asks-ag-to-investigate/
Title: Re: GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win
Post by: mystery-ak on September 25, 2021, 06:59:58 pm
Attorney Matt DePerno: Arizona Audit Officials Were Threatened – Forced to Water Down Audit Report (VIDEO)

https://rumble.com/embed/vkc4hz/?pub=4

more
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/attorney-matt-deperno-arizona-audit-officials-threatened-forced-water-audit-report-video/