Still waiting for people to realize “unusual and extraordinary threat†and “is no longer a nuclear threat†don’t square with each other.
Apparently you missed that this was to keep the sanctions in place.
Still waiting for people to realize “unusual and extraordinary threat†and “is no longer a nuclear threat†don’t square with each other.
I didn’t and it still doesn’t cover the ridiculous tweet. It was well known the sanctions would remain in place until verifiable denuclearization took place. Until that does, they remain a threat. To say otherwise is both irresponsible and idiotic.
It seems as though this Administration is having increasing trouble keeping their stories straight.
The two phrases are not mutually exclusive.
It seems as though this Administration is having increasing trouble keeping their stories straight.
Chaos.
It's what Trump creates around himself to mask the fact that all his assigned attributes from the adoring mobs are just ether.
"ISIS is defeated", "ISIS remains a threat", both statements can be correct.
Still waiting for people to realize “unusual and extraordinary threat†and “is no longer a nuclear threat†don’t square with each other.
Yes, I realize that.
So what? As long as the sanctions actually remain in place -- which is exactly what just happened -- it was just lip service by Trump to try to get negotiations that had gone nowhere in decades to move along. If it doesn't work, we've lost nothing.
Whether people care to admit it or not, his tweets aren't just throwaway statements, like when he was a private citizen. They're record and in some cases, policy. If credibility and the loss of it aren't important, that's fine - just say so.
It wouldn't matter what he said or where he said it. You would still complain.
It wouldn't matter what I said or where I said it. You would still annoyingly ping me to say this.
Fox News vs. North Korean State TV
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You can't run from the Truth
It's all about context;
What was Trump suppose to tweet? NK is not denuclearized? There's a context.
Pretty unbelievable that even though great strides have been made in a troubling situation, there are still those trying to nitpick this or that.
Now that shows the deep stupidity of NTsThanx everybody should watch it.
Whether people care to admit it or not, his tweets aren't just throwaway statements, like when he was a private citizen. They're record....
and in some cases, policy.
If credibility and the loss of it aren't important, that's fine - just say so.
What does it matter if "they're record?" That's just a fancy way of saying "yup -- he said it", which isn't in dispute. So again...what actual substantive difference does it make if those statements are "record"?
But not in this case. We have withdrawn no troops, and ended no sanctions. In fact, the entire point of this article was to point out that every single sanction remains in place. So in terms of actual policy, nothing of substance has changed.
Sure they are. But the reality is that this has absolutely nothing to do with credibility. Anyone being remotely honest with themselves understands that this was just diplomatic posturing. It's like saying your mother in law's pork chops were delicious when they were dry and tough as hell. People understand that judging your overall credibility because you said something nice in public so as not to create a scene would be foolish.
The same applies to Trump here -- except among those who who wait with baited breath for anything to criticize.
In any case, the mistake you are making here is the same most American diplomats, foreign policy experts, and politicians have been making for decades. You are judging negotiations by the process -- how well each little bit of back and forth plays in isolation on the evening news, what sound bites can be isolated and criticized, etc.. When the only thing that really matters is what happens at the end of the process -- actually achieving a deal that puts you in a better position than you were.
The first and last points have to do with credibility. That's what the record will show later. Now, as to the diplomacy of it all, there's only so far he had to go with it and maintain the credibility. You can say you had a good meeting, looked the man in the eye, believed he's sincere, and look forward to the day when everything is signed, sealed, and delivered. That's good and honest, but a long way from saying they are no longer a threat, when everyone knows damn well they are, while those nukes exist. It didn't need to be said to advance the process. It's also a legacy killer, if things fall apart. That tweet will be right next to Chamberlain waving his letter and Albright clinking her glass, if things don't work out. As far as policy goes, we did make concessions. It's long been policy to have joint drills to maintain readiness. That's now on indefinite hold.
And the truth is that if it were Obama in place of Trump, the same people that are saying that Tweet is no big deal would be screeching that O was a complete idiot.
And the truth is that if it were Obama in place of Trump, the same people that are saying that Tweet is no big deal would be screeching that O was a complete idiot.
To even fathom that one Barack H Obama would have been in NOKO, one would have to be willing to engage in the suspension of disbelief and sacrifice realism and logic for the sake of enjoyment.
As long as they are a threat, sanctions are continued.
Yes. The CONTEXT of what Trump tweeted after his "historic" 'Main Event" with himself in the center ring was:
NORTH KOREA NO LONGER A NUCLEAR THREAT
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Because Conservatives who still have principles they have not discarded for a cult of personality do not grade intentions and emotional pap, as demanded. We grade RESULTS.
But not liberals. And not Trump populists. Together they grade style over substance, intentions over actual achievements.
It's all about the show and the feeling that the show can generate to create a myth and lie.
You aren't in foreign policy, if we get peace with North Korea, you have NOTHING to do with it. Nothing was ever said about lifting sanctions, you mix the two so you can act sanctimonious. ISIS is defeated for the most part, those on the sidelines did NOTHING against evil.
Reading this Thread gave me images of British General Marshall Montgomery assuring Eisenhower that his Operation Market Garden would be a smashing success.