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Title: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: rangerrebew on February 24, 2024, 02:01:33 pm
PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
02/23/2024 // Ethan Huff // 5.8K Views
 

Up until now, most of the research exposing Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) "vaccines" as dangerous – and exposing those who take them as disease and death spreaders – has come from independent sources. Now, the truth is coming from the federal government and Big Tech.
It took the sleuthing public, including the diligent truth-seekers at the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) advocacy group, a while to find all this, but we now know from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) itself that mRNA gene therapy products like those manufactured by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna do, in fact, shed onto others from those who take them.

A 2015 FDA document called "Design and Analysis of Shedding Studies for Virus or Bacteria-Based Gene Therapy and Oncolytic Products" defines shedding as "the release of [viral or bacterial gene therapy products] ... from the patient through one or all of the following ways: excreta (feces); secreta (urine, saliva, nasopharyngeal fluids etc.); or through the skin (pustules, sores, wounds)."

The same document goes on to explain, according to the FDA, what gene therapy products are:

"All products that mediate their effects by transcription and/or translation of transferred genetic material."

https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-02-23-proof-fda-pfizer-covid-vaccine-shedding-real.html
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 24, 2024, 10:50:01 pm
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Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: PeteS in CA on February 25, 2024, 04:20:06 pm
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A 2015 FDA document 1. called "Design and Analysis of Shedding Studies for Virus or Bacteria-Based Gene Therapy and Oncolytic Products" defines shedding as "the release of [viral or bacterial gene therapy products] ... from the patient through one or all of the following ways: excreta (feces); secreta (urine, saliva, nasopharyngeal fluids etc.); or through the skin (pustules, sores, wounds)."

The same document goes on to explain, according to the FDA, what gene therapy products are:

"All products that mediate their effects by transcription and/or translation of transferred genetic material 1.."

https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-02-23-proof-fda-pfizer-covid-vaccine-shedding-real.html 3.

1. Ummmmmmmm ... bogey-mRNA vaccines were created, tested, and authorized 5 years before the release of this document. This FDA document cannot be referring specifically to Covid vaccines.

2. Bogey-mRNA vaccines do not contain transferred genetic material. Because that is not how mRNA - part of a cell's natural protein production process - works.

3. "Natural News" :silly:  :silly:  :silly:  :silly:  :silly:

4. Recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines cannot shed SARS-CoV-2 viruses because the mRNA in bogey-mRNA vaccines do not code for replicating an entire SARS-CoV-2 virus. Recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines cannot shed SARS-CoV-2 virus spikes because the mRNA in bogey-mRNA vaccines do not code for replicating an entire SARS-CoV-2 virus spikes.

5. Are anti-Covid-vaxxers publishing silly clickbait @#$% like that ignorant? Or knowingly lying to get clicks?
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 26, 2024, 02:19:16 am

The assertion is not that the virus will be spread by the vaccinated.

From the article:
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Unfortunately for those who get shed on, the fully jabbed are contaminating others with spike proteins and other deadly jab components that are now being found in breast milk. And the threat can last for at least half a year after a person gets injected, meaning the risk of shedding is not just a temporary thing that lasts a few days as some claim

Would the spike proteins created by getting the jabs be excreted? Apparently so.


Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: DB on February 26, 2024, 04:51:57 am
1. Ummmmmmmm ... bogey-mRNA vaccines were created, tested, and authorized 5 years before the release of this document. This FDA document cannot be referring specifically to Covid vaccines.

2. Bogey-mRNA vaccines do not contain transferred genetic material. Because that is not how mRNA - part of a cell's natural protein production process - works.

3. "Natural News" :silly:  :silly:  :silly:  :silly:  :silly:

4. Recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines cannot shed SARS-CoV-2 viruses because the mRNA in bogey-mRNA vaccines do not code for replicating an entire SARS-CoV-2 virus. Recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines cannot shed SARS-CoV-2 virus spikes because the mRNA in bogey-mRNA vaccines do not code for replicating an entire SARS-CoV-2 virus spikes.

5. Are anti-Covid-vaxxers publishing silly clickbait @#$% like that ignorant? Or knowingly lying to get clicks?

What you said isn't the claim. You are twisting their words.

Though I agree about Natural News...
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: PeteS in CA on February 26, 2024, 03:34:26 pm
The assertion is not that the virus will be spread by the vaccinated.

From the article:
Would the spike proteins created by getting the jabs be excreted? Apparently so.

As I already posted:

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4. Recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines cannot shed SARS-CoV-2 viruses because the mRNA in bogey-mRNA vaccines do not code for replicating an entire SARS-CoV-2 virus. Recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines cannot shed SARS-CoV-2 virus spikes because the mRNA in bogey-mRNA vaccines do not code for replicating an entire SARS-CoV-2 virus spikes.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: PeteS in CA on February 26, 2024, 04:12:14 pm
What you said isn't the claim. You are twisting their words.
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How did I twist their words?

NaturalNews claimed:

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...mRNA gene therapy products ...

mRNA vaccines do not use gene therapy techniques. At, All. The AstraZeneca Covid viral vector vaccine does, but other than a few thousand clinical test volunteers, it has not been used in the US. The Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine also uses viral vector technology, but it was a few percent (less than 5%) of vaccines administered in the US. But AZ and J&J are not NaturalNews' target.

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...  transcription and/or translation of transferred genetic material ...

As I posted above, mRNA is not genetic material.

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... the fully jabbed are contaminating others with spike proteins ...

As I posted above, mRNA vaccines do not code for an entire spike. Hence any proteins for which the vaccines code that are not destroyed by antibodies but instead somehow get to the outside world cannot do the damage entire spikes might.

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... exposing those who take them as disease and death spreaders ../.

As I posted above, mRNA vaccines do not code for an entire virus. Hence recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines are not thereby "disease spreaders".

Far from "twisting (NaturalNews') words", I answered claim NaturalNews made, showing the claims are false.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: Bigun on February 26, 2024, 04:30:39 pm
I'm not a molecular biologist and never claimed to be one but I do know one thing. I will never willingly take ANY of their RNA vaccines for anything. I know at least three people who have died from doing that.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 26, 2024, 05:04:15 pm
As I already posted:
So you got there the 'firstest with the mostest', that still does not make your assertions correct. It's always handy when "shedding", like "vaccine" can be redefined by the folks who claim it isn't happening, or is, respectively.


I may not like the tone or timbre of the bell, but that does not mean it tolls for nothing.

https://www.fda.gov/media/89036/download (https://www.fda.gov/media/89036/download)
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: DB on February 26, 2024, 11:14:08 pm
How did I twist their words?

NaturalNews claimed:

mRNA vaccines do not use gene therapy techniques. At, All. The AstraZeneca Covid viral vector vaccine does, but other than a few thousand clinical test volunteers, it has not been used in the US. The Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine also uses viral vector technology, but it was a few percent (less than 5%) of vaccines administered in the US. But AZ and J&J are not NaturalNews' target.

As I posted above, mRNA is not genetic material.

As I posted above, mRNA vaccines do not code for an entire spike. Hence any proteins for which the vaccines code that are not destroyed by antibodies but instead somehow get to the outside world cannot do the damage entire spikes might.

As I posted above, mRNA vaccines do not code for an entire virus. Hence recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines are not thereby "disease spreaders".

Far from "twisting (NaturalNews') words", I answered claim NaturalNews made, showing the claims are false.

From the article:  'defines shedding as "the release of [viral or bacterial gene therapy products]"'.

Hence, it isn't claimed that the Covid virus is being shedded, as you claimed they said. It is the mRNA gene therapy products that are being shedded. Words matter.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: PeteS in CA on February 26, 2024, 11:52:09 pm
From the article:  'defines shedding as "the release of [viral or bacterial gene therapy products]"'.

Hence, it isn't claimed that the Covid virus is being shedded, as you claimed they said. It is the mRNA gene therapy products that are being shedded. Words matter.

So, you didn't read the OP article? When I posted this in Reply 6,

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... the fully jabbed are contaminating others with spike proteins ...

That is a quote from the NaturalNews article.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: DB on February 27, 2024, 03:33:25 am
So, you didn't read the OP article? When I posted this in Reply 6,

That is a quote from the NaturalNews article.

You said: "Recipients of bogey-mRNA vaccines cannot shed SARS-CoV-2 viruses because the mRNA in bogey-mRNA vaccines do not code for replicating an entire SARS-CoV-2 virus."

No one was making that claim, that is, shedding SARS-CoV-2 viruses which is what you said above. They are saying that people are shedding the spike protein that mRNA generates in your cells. The spike protein is toxic. mRNA is a genetic program to tell your cells to generate a particular protein.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: rustynail on February 27, 2024, 03:33:00 pm
More cases of hearing and balance disorders have been observed after people received COVID-19 vaccines, according to a recent study, which asked vaccinated people to remain alert to such complications.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/study-finds-hearing-and-balance-disorders-among-covid-19-vaccinated-5594475
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on February 27, 2024, 04:18:55 pm
It's 2024.  We've reached herd immunity.  Those who believe in Covid shots get them.  Those who don't believe in Covid shots.

It's not 2020 anymore.  Get some new material that's relevant to the present.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: DB on February 27, 2024, 06:56:28 pm
It's 2024.  We've reached herd immunity.  Those who believe in Covid shots get them.  Those who don't believe in Covid shots.

It's not 2020 anymore.  Get some new material that's relevant to the present.

People are living the consequences now. There needs to be a reckoning of what was done.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: libertybele on February 27, 2024, 07:20:39 pm
People are living the consequences now. There needs to be a reckoning of what was done.

Absolutely and that information needs to be made known to the public.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: PeteS in CA on February 27, 2024, 07:21:16 pm
It's 2024.  We've reached herd immunity.  Those who believe in Covid shots get them.  Those who don't believe in Covid shots.

It's not 2020 anymore.  Get some new material that's relevant to the present.

Anti-Covid-vaxxers don't have "new material that's relevant to the present". They don't have the hundreds of thousands or millions of excess dead bodies to prove their The Vaccine is deadly narrative, so they've recycled their 2021 or 2022 The Vaccine recipients are shedding Covid spikes falsehood, hoping people forget it's an old false claim.

Will the The Vaccine contains hydras absurdity-claim be recycled next?

Or maybe the The Vaccine contains microchips absurdity, or the sludge-blood absurdity.

The spikes falsehood, the hydras absurdity, the microchips absurdity, and the sludge blood absurdity have all been posted on TBR as serious claims. At some point in looking at a pile of pig manure one realizes it would be stupid to dig through it hoping to find a slab of bacon. Anti-Covid-vaxxers' claims are a rancid pile of pig manure.
Title: Re: PROOF: Documents from FDA, Pfizer show that COVID “vaccine” shedding is REAL
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 27, 2024, 07:30:31 pm
Nice opinion, there @PeteS in CA

Yes, there has been some hyperbole, based on paranoia or contaminants in some lots of the jabs. There has also been a significant increase in VAERS reports vs other vaccines for the COVID shots.

That doesn't have to amount to millions of bodies right away, as many of those adverse effects are not immediately life-ending, even if they are life altering or life shortening, but hey, they could be run over by a bus tomorrow, right?

Still, where is your evidence that all is normal (not 'new' normal) as you attest repeatedly, not just your personal experience, as noted, often, but something based on a more complete dataset?

Because if you are applying the standard that some hyperbole or inaccuracy in one small part of someone reporting on what a primary source said, third hand, renders all inaccurate, all I have to offer is the claims that the shots were '95% effective', were 'safe and effective', and that the masks and standing six feet away were going to 'flatten the curve' against a 'natural' (not lab created) pathogen.

Peer reviewed, please, w/sources--I have provided mine all along.