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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: mystery-ak on June 30, 2014, 01:59:02 pm
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Shannon Bream @ShannonBream 4m
Prochoice chant right now at SupCt - "keep your rosaries off my ovaries"
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Shannon Bream @ShannonBream 4m
Prochoice chant right now at SupCt - "keep your rosaries off my ovaries"
At this point that's nothing more then rhetorical nonsense; the Supreme Court would no more listen to chants like that then they would listen to Obuttocks' veiled threats in the State of the Union several years ago.
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Breaking: SCOTUS limits power to compel contributions to public employee unions but does not forbid it
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Hugh Hewitt @hughhewitt 6s
Both decisions from Alito according to SCOTUSBlog which is very good news for @HobbyLobbyCase
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Fox News:
Supporters of the arts-and-crafts chain Hobby Lobby -- the business at the center of one of this session's most closely watched Supreme Court cases -- are sounding a confident tone ahead of Monday's expected decision in their case challenging ObamaCare's so-called contraception mandate.
The court meets for a final time Monday to release decisions in its two remaining cases before the justices take off for the summer.
The most contentious is that brought by Oklahoma City-based Hobby Lobby and a furniture maker in Pennsylvania. The for-profit businesses have challenged the requirement in the Affordable Care Act that employers cover contraception for women at no extra charge among a range of preventive benefits in employee health plans. It is the first major challenge to ObamaCare to come before the court since the justices upheld the law's individual requirement to buy health insurance two years ago.
Supporters of Hobby Lobby cite a few factors potentially leaning in their favor, including the tone of oral arguments in March and a unanimous decision last week finding President Obama overreached in making recess appointments to a labor board.
"Absolutely, we win -- we are very confident after oral argument in March that we will prevail in this case," Hannah Smith, senior counsel for The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which represents Hobby Lobby, told Fox News. She suggested this, too, is a case of government "overreach."
Citing recent unanimous decisions, she added: "We're hopeful we might see some unanimity here."
Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., also said he's hopeful the court will "uphold the rights of individuals for their expression of their religious freedoms."
He, too, cited the ruling Thursday that Obama "exceeded his constitutional authority" in speculating that the court might deliver another blow to the administration on Monday.
The court, though, has surprised onlookers before when it comes to ObamaCare. In the major Supreme Court challenge to the law's individual mandate two years ago, Chief Justice John Roberts cast the pivotal vote that saved the health care law in the midst of Obama's campaign for re-election.
House Democratic Caucus Chairman Xavier Becerra, D-Calif., speaking on "Fox News Sunday," predicted the Supreme Court would rule against Hobby Lobby.
"I believe that the Supreme Court will find that no business ... should be allowed to [discriminate] against women," he said. "The owner has a right to his or her religious beliefs, but that doesn't mean you get to discriminate against women if [they] have different beliefs than what the owner has."
More: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/30/hobby-lobby-team-very-confident-ahead-supreme-court-ruling/
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SCOTUSblog @SCOTUSblog 1m
The decision says that union bargaining fees cannot be imposed on employees that are not full public employees
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I will be very interested to read what Justice Alito has written for the Majority in both of these cases. That he took the lead on this is a strong indication that the Constitution is still very much alive, well, and studiously defended.
It does appear that it really sucks to be the SEIU this morning......
Developing very HOT......
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MSNBC says Justice Alito Wrote Hobby Lobby decision
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SCOTUSblog @SCOTUSblog · 1m
Breaking: SCOTUS holds govt can’t require closely held corps w/ religious owners to provide contraception coverage
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Guy Benson @guypbenson 39s
Boom.
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Hugh Hewitt @hughhewitt 8s
And religious liberty trumps. Thanks to all in the @HobbyLobbyTeam
Keith Koffler @keithkoffler 36s
Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Hobby Lobby
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SCOTUSblog @SCOTUSblog · 1m
Under the Hobby Lobby decision, the government can pay for the coverage itself so that women receive it.
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5-4 in favor of Hobby Lobby with Alito writing for the Majority.
That booming noise that just swept over Washington was Obama's ass slamming shut....
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I'm actually surprised how it went down.
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So how long will it take for the White House to re-write Obamacare, again, to try and maneuver around this decision??
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5-4 in favor of Hobby Lobby with Alito writing for the Majority.
That booming noise that just swept over Washington was Obama's ass slamming shut....
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Interesting that this is another 5-4 decision (Harris v. Quinn, the union case released today, is also 5-4). Goes to show that CJ Roberts is not just about consensus-building and kowtowing to the powers-that-be.
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Robin Abcarian @robinabcarian 1m
#HobbyLobby decision is long, with three separate dissents, including a 35-page dissent by Ginsburg. I know what I'm doing this morning
Decision looks like a monster: 49 pages for the majority, four for Kennedy concurrence.
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I'm actually surprised how it went down.
How so?
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SCOTUSblog @SCOTUSblog · 3m
The Obama Administration is almost certain to provide contraception coverage to women covered by today’s decision.
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This applies narrowly to closely held, family owned Corporations. It is not an overturning of the whole contraception mandate, but the Court was not asked to do that in the first place.
The Catholic Church still has their challenges to this as well, and I would look for a lawsuit to work its way up to SCOTUS, perhaps in the next term. This Obamacare mandate battle is not over, and there will be others to come likely for years.
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I'm actually surprised how it went down.
Why?
Is there any reasonable person who doesn't believe that mandating contraception is a violation of Religious Freedom?
I guess four Supremes thought it wasn't.
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SCOTUSblog @SCOTUSblog · 3m
The Obama Administration is almost certain to provide contraception coverage to women covered by today’s decision.
That's exactly what I mean. That move would require re-writing the law passed by the Congress once again. That decision is up to the Congress and I fully expect another stroke from Mr. Pen und Cellphone.....
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Supreme Court Rules Obama Admin Can’t Make Hobby Lobby Obey Pro-Abortion HHS Mandate (http://www.lifenews.com/2014/06/30/supreme-court-rules-obama-admin-cant-make-hobby-lobby-obey-pro-abortion-hhs-mandate/)
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This applies narrowly to closely held, family owned Corporations. It is not an overturning of the whole contraception mandate, but the Court was not asked to do that in the first place.
The Catholic Church still has their challenges to this as well, and I would look for a lawsuit to work its way up to SCOTUS, perhaps in the next term. This Obamacare mandate battle is not over, and there will be others to come likely for years.
Well, if closely-held non-religious corporations don't have to honor the mandate, is there any question about religious institutions?
Obama's going to lose every challenge to this mandate.
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I'm actually surprised how it went down.
Same here - but relieved.
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Just as I expected. 5-4.
Breyer, Sotomayor, Ginsburg and Kagan the four reliable "nays."
Alito, Thomas and Scalia the three reliable "yeas."
Roberts, the most corporation-friendly member of the court, a "yea."
And Kennedy, the swing vote, but because he doubted the legitimacy of the bill itself in NFIB v. Sibelius, also a "yea."
Fortunately this was the case that set the precedent. It has some implications beyond just Obamacare and contraception. All the homosexual activists who are forcing businesspeople to serve them against their religious beliefs now have precedent against them. The business owners now have precedent on their side. Had one of those cases made it to the Court first, because Kennedy tends to sympathize with LGBT cases far more often, the outcome might have been much different.
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This applies narrowly to closely held, family owned Corporations. It is not an overturning of the whole contraception mandate, but the Court was not asked to do that in the first place.
The Catholic Church still has their challenges to this as well, and I would look for a lawsuit to work its way up to SCOTUS, perhaps in the next term. This Obamacare mandate battle is not over, and there will be others to come likely for years.
Which doesn't surprise me, both because of Roberts' style and because of the controversial nature of the issues. At this point it's better for the Court to rule narrowly and not engage in broad, sweeping rationales that might come back to bite it.
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One thing it also represents another slapdown for Obama and his imperial presidency where he uses administrative regulations to impose his will on people and evade the separation of powers.
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Looks like another slap-down to der fuehrer "I can do any damned thing I want" and his crew.
This may push him into coming up with some way of quashing or simply ignoring the judicial branch. He already has Congress cowering before him, now he only has to figure out how to get around the courts and how to end elections.
Then he will become everything he thinks he deserves to be, i.e., God himself.
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The fact that these decisions were divided by a 5-4 margin, as with so many others in recent times, is testimony to how tenuous our liberty has become.
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The fact that these decisions were divided by a 5-4 margin, as with so many others in recent times, is testimony to how tenuous our liberty has become.
Not necessarily. There have been plenty of decisions on vital issues that were decided 5-4.
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Last week and this have been a very bad two weeks for Obuttocks and the democrats/progs/libs.
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The fact that these decisions were divided by a 5-4 margin, as with so many others in recent times, is testimony to how tenuous our liberty has become.
It is also a very good indicator of just how liberal those 4 votes are and how divided they are. Ruth Bader Ginsberg managed to stay awake long enough to draft her dissent, but two of the liberal justices did not sign on to her opinion, and wrote their own.
I don't mind speculating that since this term is finished, Justice Ginsberg may well take the opportunity to retire and secure Obama another SCOTUS nomination. If she pulls the plug soon enough before the election there is a chance of getting the nominee past Harry Reid's Senate. If the nomination languishes until after the election for any reason, there will be one hell of a fight over getting the confirmation done before the Senate changes hands in January. God only knows who we could end up with on SCOTUS. Obama is completely capable of a grudge, in your face nomination.....he could nominate the Hildebeest.......
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Last week and this have been a very bad two weeks for Obuttocks and the democrats/progs/libs.
It does seem that way, but I still keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. **nononono*
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It does seem that way, but I still keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. **nononono*
Me too. I don't think Hussein is quite done with his 'fundemental transformation of America'.
What I am most worried about is his last six months in office. I fully expect him to go absolutely crazy, and to start doing insane things that no one ever thought possible in America. Formally team up with Iran? (i mean more than he already has), declare martial law? Who knows? The guy is insane, and he absolutely "hates" America, with everything that he is.
Man, I hope I am wrong. But I expect nothing good from him and his gang. And I do not think that anything is beyond the limit for what he may do.
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This is why we need to win in 2016. Imagine a Hillary Clinton Supreme Court.
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Not necessarily. There have been plenty of decisions on vital issues that were decided 5-4.
I'm troubled by the kind of issues involved, not by the mere fact of a 5-4 split. In vital ways, I fear that we're one Supreme Court justice away from permanently altering the relationship between citizen and government in America.
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We won! Okay.....so what happens now?
Obama will take the position that it's the crazy Right/Conservative justices that's a problem and they'll make it an issue this November.
Secondly, Obama will treat the women actually affected by the Court's decision as collateral damage. Small price to pay for the media dividend realized.
I'm happy with the decision. But these people don't care about the law...they only care about getting what they want.
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We won! Okay.....so what happens now?
Obama will take the position that it's the crazy Right/Conservative justices that's a problem and they'll make it an issue this November.
Secondly, Obama will treat the women actually affected by the Court's decision as collateral damage. Small price to pay for the media dividend realized.
I'm happy with the decision. But these people don't care about the law...they only care about getting what they want.
Let there be NO doubt in anyone's mind about that!
But still I like it when they take it in the shorts!
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This is why we need to win in 2016. Imagine a Hillary Clinton Supreme Court.
Imagine Hillary Clinton on the Supreme Court.....
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We're not the only ones expecting the other shoe ...
Bobby Jindal Says What We’re All Thinking About Obama’s Next Move After the Hobby Lobby Decision
by Emily Hulsey 2 hours ago
IJReview (http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/152398-president-obama-may-use-executive-action-bypass-supreme-court-hobby-lobby-decision/)
In a news conference today, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest stated that while the President will work with Congress to “make sure that any women affected by this decision will still have the same coverage of vital health services as everyone else,” he will also consider possible opportunities to act on his own.
Many, including Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, predicted this may happen, tweeting:Gov. Bobby Jindal ✔ @BobbyJindal
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.@BarackObama is now googling “Can an Executive Order override Supreme Court?” #HobbyLobby
In light of today’s other big announcement – that Obama will use executive powers to take on immigration – as well as the wave of additional executive orders that he’s already issued (and for which he is being sued), there is no reason to think that he won’t use the same approach when it comes to abortion coverage.
While the phrase, “If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself” is a noble one, it does not apply here. The Constitution doesn’t give the President of the United States the legal right to bypass laws set by other branches of government- even when those laws make him mad.
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Imagine Hillary Clinton on the Supreme Court.....
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That's cruel
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If women want contraception they should go to the National Organization of Women or EMILY's List. The taxpayer or the employer should not be paying for it
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Me too. I don't think Hussein is quite done with his 'fundemental transformation of America'.
What I am most worried about is his last six months in office. I fully expect him to go absolutely crazy, and to start doing insane things that no one ever thought possible in America. Formally team up with Iran? (i mean more than he already has), declare martial law? Who knows? The guy is insane, and he absolutely "hates" America, with everything that he is.
Man, I hope I am wrong. But I expect nothing good from him and his gang. And I do not think that anything is beyond the limit for what he may do.
If the GOP takes the Senate in 2014, the Congress can defund many of his initiatives. It doesn't matter if he doesn't like it; if Congress doesn't approve the money, he doesn't get it.
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If the GOP takes the Senate in 2014, the Congress can defund many of his initiatives. It doesn't matter if he doesn't like it; if Congress doesn't approve the money, he doesn't get it.
I agree. Planned Parenthood has been a bane around America since 1970. In both of taxpayer cost and legal costs to fight it to keep the program alive. Now is the time to completely defund it. Let the NOWs and EMILY lists of the world pay.
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White House ConLaw Lawyer Disagrees With SCOTUS On Hobby Lobby
Posted By Tristyn Bloom On 2:30 PM 06/30/2014 In | No Comments
“The constitutional lawyer in the Oval Office disagrees with that conclusion from the Supreme Court” in the Hobby Lobby contraceptive mandate case, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Monday.
The court ruled that for-profit corporations cannot be forced to include contraception in insurance coverage offered to employees, because doing so violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
WATCH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N2l5j8T48w
“There is a problem that has been exposed, which is that there are now a group of women of an indeterminate size who no longer have access to free contraceptive coverage, simply because of some religious views held, not by them necessarily, but by their bosses,” said Earnest. (RELATED: GOP Cheers Hobby Lobby Decision)
Hobby Lobby sued the government for forcing them to cover possibly abortifacent drugs as part of their insurance plans, which they argued violated their consciences as Christians who believe that life begins at conception.
The drugs are still available outside of employer-provided insurance plans.
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Article printed from The Daily Caller: http://dailycaller.com
URL to article: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/white-house-conlaw-lawyer-disagrees-with-scotus-on-hobby-lobby/
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Hobby Lobby Wins! Liberals Scream "Sky is Falling!"
By Onan Coca / 1 July 2014 / 17 Comments
The Supreme Court has finally handed down their decision on the Hobby Lobby case, and it’s a win for religious freedom!
(If you need a primer on the Hobby Lobby case check out hobbylobbycase.com.)
This is a HUGE win for religious liberty and a big blow to Obamacare. The Court was divided 5-4 down pretty foreseeable lines. The Court’s conservatives sided with Hobby Lobby and the liberals came down against. The decision came down to Justice Kennedy who could swing either way… this time he chose religious freedom.
Justice Samuel Alito wrote the majority opinion (you can see it Here), and here is a little of what he had to say about the case.
“We do not hold, as the principal dissent alleges, that for-profit corporations and other commercial enterprises can ‘opt out of any law (saving only tax laws) they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs.’”
“The effect of the HHS-created accommodation on the women employed by Hobby Lobby and the other companies involved in these cases would be precisely zero. Under that accommodation, these women would still be entitled to all FDA-approved contraceptives without cost sharing.”
“Congress provided protection for people like the Hahns and Greens by employing a familiar legal fiction: It included corporations within RFRA’s definition of ‘persons.’ But it is important to keep in mind that the purpose of this fiction is to provide protection for human beings.”
Justice Kennedy said it even better…
“Among the reasons the United States is so open, so tolerant, and so free is that no person may be restricted or demeaned by government in exercising his or her religion. Yet neither may that same exercise unduly restrict other persons, such as employees, in protecting their own interests, interests the law deems compelling. “
CNN interviewed Hobby Lobby’s lawyer and asked the question that every liberal who can’t think about the insane logic of their question has been asking.
CNN: We heard the demonstrators today saying, “Look, the employers should stay out of our business,” that this decision will now essentially bring the employer into what should be a very private decision-making process between a woman and her doctor, now that the justices ruled that Hobby Lobby no longer has to cover four types of contraception. What do you have to say to the other side?
WINDHAM: Hobby Lobby would love to stay out of this and leave this decision to a woman and her doctor. It’s the federal government that told them that they had to be involved and cover these things, even though they violated the Green family’s faith.
Yes, yes and for Heaven’s sake – YES!
This was the point the entire time. Businesses wanted nothing to do with their employees contraceptive decisions – it was the government (with liberals pushing the issue) who was forcing businesses to get involved. Consider this, before Obamacare, Hobby Lobby had nothing to do with their employee’s family planning. After Obamacare… Hobby Lobby was forced to PAY for their employee’s family planning.
So shouldn’t the liberals have been screeching at the government instead of at Hobby Lobby (and the other Christian businesses who’d sued)?
One of our favorite libertarians, Julie Borowski, nailed it with these tweets (one of them in reply to the infamous contraception hoarder Sandra Fluke)…
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Exactly right. Liberals also want their employers to pay for toothpaste, athlete’s foot powder, contact lens solution, Q-Tips, combs and brushes… and so much more…
The liberals are still reeling, of course.
They are now saying some pretty nonsensical thing and whining about problem that don’t exist.
(See all of the drama over at HotAir.)
I wonder if liberals will ever realize their failed logic has become theater of the absurd.
I leave you with one more fun thought...
Read more at http://eaglerising.com/7088/hobby-lobby-wins-liberals-scream-sky-falling/#LYa2mzQWq514DrpH.99
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CNN: We heard the demonstrators today saying, “Look, the employers should stay out of our business...”
Proof positive that lefties rarely think through the logic and implications of their policies. Instead, they measure everything based on whether it improves their ability to impose their will on us whether we like it or not. Not just in this case. Note also that liberals are clamoring for OPapaDoc to become a dictator and ignore the congress.
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CNN: We heard the demonstrators today saying, “Look, the employers should stay out of our business...”
Proof positive that lefties rarely think through the logic and implications of their policies. Instead, they measure everything based on whether it improves their ability to impose their will on us whether we like it or not. Not just in this case. Note also that liberals are clamoring for OPapaDoc to become a dictator and ignore the congress.
Right on Victor! Right on! :beer: