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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Chosen Daughter on December 07, 2018, 03:36:22 am
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Tucker Carlson: Trump has not kept his promises
By Michael Burke - 12/06/18 04:09 PM EST
Fox News host Tucker Carlson said this week that President Trump
has not kept the promises he made on the campaign trail.
Carlson told Die Weltwoche, a weekly magazine in Switzerland,, that Trump's "chief promises" were that he would build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, defund Planned Parenthood and repeal the Affordable Care Act.
"And he hasn't done any of those things," Carlson said. "I've come to believe that Trump's role is not as a conventional president who promises to get certain things achieved to the Congress and then does."
Carlson added that he doesn't think Trump is "capable" of fulfilling those promises.
"I don't think he's capable of sustained focus," Carlson said. "I don't think he understands the system. I don't think the Congress is on his side. I don't think his own agencies support him."
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/420137-tucker-carlson-trump-has-not-kept-his-promises
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Trump's "chief promises" were that he would build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, defund Planned Parenthood and repeal the Affordable Care Act.
Wonder what the hang up was with getting those things done? Oh yeah. Rat John McCain and fagot Paul Ryan.
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Not even reading your post. I do not believe this. I watch Tucker Carlson a lot and he would NEVER say that and you are guilty of ferreting out every negative thing you can find about Trump, true or not.
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Drudge has it up, different article, basically the same thing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tucker-carlson-says-trump-is-%E2%80%98not-capable%E2%80%99-and-hasn%E2%80%99t-kept-his-promises/ar-BBQB8Vd?li=BBnb7Kx (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tucker-carlson-says-trump-is-%E2%80%98not-capable%E2%80%99-and-hasn%E2%80%99t-kept-his-promises/ar-BBQB8Vd?li=BBnb7Kx)
I respect Tucker, I still believe Trump has done so much. That's just my view. Yes, we are not seeing that wall go up or healthcare reform or defunding planned parenthood. I'm still satisfied and in all 3 of these things, I'd say he's tried pretty hard.
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This is a tiny seed extracted from a long history of Trump support by Tucker. I refuse to participate in its dissemination.
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Not even reading your post. I do not believe this. I watch Tucker Carlson a lot and he would NEVER say that and you are guilty of ferreting out every negative thing you can find about Trump, true or not.
Well if you like Tucker Carlson you would probably like to read the entire interview. Quite interesting if you ask me. I think he is very smart and has a great understanding of how America has changed over the years. And how people handle change.
https://www.weltwoche.ch/ausgaben/2018-49/artikel/trump-is-not-capable-die-weltwoche-ausgabe-49-2018.html (https://www.weltwoche.ch/ausgaben/2018-49/artikel/trump-is-not-capable-die-weltwoche-ausgabe-49-2018.html)
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Crap, in two days he's got Ingram and Carlson nipping at his heels like physco Chihuahuas, something must be going on at FOX.
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Crap, in two days he's got Ingram and Carlson nipping at his heels like physco Chihuahuas, something must be going on at FOX.
I certainly hope so. They are enablers. Like the parents that give their drug addict children money to go buy drugs.
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Trump's "chief promises" were that he would build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, defund Planned Parenthood and repeal the Affordable Care Act.
Wonder what the hang up was with getting those things done? Oh yeah. Rat John McCain and fagot Paul Ryan.
What's gonna be Trump's excuse for the next 2 years?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7VBbWuC_zM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7VBbWuC_zM#)
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President's can't legislate...that's congress job. Trump works night and day to achieve the things promised in his campaign, and every who's NOT a peawit realizes the road block to accomplishing these things is the NT wing of the GOP...the Flakes, McCain's, Murkowskis, Collins', Oncelers, Chosendaughters, and the host of folks who'd rather lift the Left to permanent victory than let an upstart Republican president achieve goals like a Border Wall or defunding of PP.
How ironic that those who would blame the President for not achieving these promises, are the very ones who've blocked him from achieving them.
As for Tucker, he's a realist and a supporter of Trump's policies...likely a bit frustrated that Trump has let these Republican Quislings stop his agenda. Make no mistake though, Carlson knows and repeatedly asserts that the GOP NT's are the one's truly at fault. Their pathetic opposition to anything Trump...no matter how common sensical or conservative in nature...is the problem. For the Dems, these folks are useful idiots...and they were happy to ride them to power in the House, and now aim to take back the White House with the assistance of NeverTrump Republicans.
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This is a tiny seed extracted from a long history of Trump support by Tucker. I refuse to participate in its dissemination.
Carlson uses unnecessarily provocative terms here that he should've known would be seized and turned on the president by the media. However, his basic points are a reasonable take on the president and the difficulty he's had adjusting to working within the DC system.
Carlson could've leavened his criticism of Trump by pointing out some of the successes he's had as well as the disgusting reluctance of the old guard GOP to back him up, which undoubtedly did take Trump off guard.
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President's can't legislate...that's congress job. Trump works night and day to achieve the things promised in his campaign, and every who's NOT a peawit realizes the road block to accomplishing these things is the NT wing of the GOP...the Flakes, McCain's, Murkowskis, Collins', Oncelers, Chosendaughters, and the host of folks who'd rather lift the Left to permanent victory than let an upstart Republican president achieve goals like a Border Wall or defunding of PP.
How ironic that those who would blame the President for not achieving these promises, are the very ones who've blocked him from achieving them.
As for Tucker, he's a realist and a supporter of Trump's policies...likely a bit frustrated that Trump has let these Republican Quislings stop his agenda. Make no mistake though, Carlson knows and repeatedly asserts that the GOP NT's are the one's truly at fault. Their pathetic opposition to anything Trump...no matter how common sensical or conservative in nature...is the problem. For the Dems, these folks are useful idiots...and they were happy to ride them to power in the House, and now aim to take back the White House with the assistance of NeverTrump Republicans.
There is no doubt that Tucker Carlson has been fair to the President. He is fair in this interview also. And no, the President has not worked day and night to stop abortion or illegal immigration. Just asking doesn't cut it. We could have excused the first time he signed a spending bill but the second time, no. Furthermore it appears he works day and night to get rid of the ones who are working on illegal immigration (Jeff Sessions). He keeps close to him the ones who are all about Amnesty (Lindsey Graham). Lindsey Graham has promoted amnesty even into Trumps two years of Presidency. You can bet he is salivating at the fact that he may finally get his deal. I am sure that as this funding bill comes up Lindsey has been a regular between offices of Schumer, Pelosi, Durban to work out the deal to give the border 1.6 billion to fix fences and supply regular funding of border patrol. You can expect to see a deal on DACA without any strings attached like getting rid of chain migration. Not going to happen, not any of it.
Now, today Trump is likely to sign the two week funding extension as Congress goes out on vacation.
And don't expect Planned Parenthood to be on the chopping block either. Democrats have enjoyed this administration caving to their desires. Trump has had kid gloves the whole time. Coddling the wants of the Democratic party. Now they will have free reign and Trump has not pushed his authority one bit. Rather it has been two years of drama, firings, suspicion and investigation. I think he has loved the "witch hunt". He thrives on his many, many times he has been sued or under investigation.
Now Kelly is the next one to go. It is being reported he is expected to resign. Trump and him are not talking. Well I don't know whether Kelly was doing his job or not, but Trump hired all the people he fired.
Oh, and I can't forget Liberals Rudy Guliani, Cohen, Amorosa. Acosta, Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
Trump was never a Republican but he ran on the Republican ticket because running a third party would not have landed him the Presidency.
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President's can't legislate...that's congress job. Trump works night and day to achieve the things promised in his campaign, and every who's NOT a peawit realizes the road block to accomplishing these things is the NT wing of the GOP...the Flakes, McCain's, Murkowskis, Collins', Oncelers, Chosendaughters, and the host of folks who'd rather lift the Left to permanent victory than let an upstart Republican president achieve goals like a Border Wall or defunding of PP.
How ironic that those who would blame the President for not achieving these promises, are the very ones who've blocked him from achieving them.
As for Tucker, he's a realist and a supporter of Trump's policies...likely a bit frustrated that Trump has let these Republican Quislings stop his agenda. Make no mistake though, Carlson knows and repeatedly asserts that the GOP NT's are the one's truly at fault. Their pathetic opposition to anything Trump...no matter how common sensical or conservative in nature...is the problem. For the Dems, these folks are useful idiots...and they were happy to ride them to power in the House, and now aim to take back the White House with the assistance of NeverTrump Republicans.
I am getting really sick and tired of some of the people around here whose main hobby in life seems to be griping about Trump's so-called failure to get things done. Trump did not abandon the promises he campaigned on. No one could possibly believe that. But how many allies has he had in achieving them? As you point out, Trump cannot pass laws. And I don't want Trump to be able to pass laws because that would mean abandoning our system of checks and balances.
But why are the people who voted for Trump because of his agenda so quick to whine because everything wasn't magically enacted the day he took office. It does not work that way.
But no one could realistically say that Trump has given up on his efforts to achieve his goals. No one could have worked harder. And I honestly think that a few of the do-nothing Senators are finally beginning to respect him, trust him and get behind him.
He's already made a lot of strides in reforming the judiciary and his next appointment to the Supreme Court will reform that Court for years to come. He has been our bulwark against the Left's agenda of welcoming all the scum of the earth into our Country.
Sheesh.
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It is not about 'Trump', it is all about the Republican Party.
Trump is true on his word. But he can't do anything when his own Party is mostly on the side of the Democrats.
It is more Paul Ryan than it is Trump. It is the entrenched Republicans that sabotaged the whole deal.
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More border enforcement, check.
Measures taken against Planned Parenthood such as the right of states to defund without repercussion, check.
Repeal healthcare, it has been gutted some.
In honesty, it's not a total miss on any of these 3 times, it's just not neat and tied up with a bow.
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There is no doubt that Tucker Carlson has been fair to the President. He is fair in this interview also. And no, the President has not worked day and night to stop abortion or illegal immigration. Just asking doesn't cut it. We could have excused the first time he signed a spending bill but the second time, no. Furthermore it appears he works day and night to get rid of the ones who are working on illegal immigration (Jeff Sessions). He keeps close to him the ones who are all about Amnesty (Lindsey Graham). Lindsey Graham has promoted amnesty even into Trumps two years of Presidency. You can bet he is salivating at the fact that he may finally get his deal. I am sure that as this funding bill comes up Lindsey has been a regular between offices of Schumer, Pelosi, Durban to work out the deal to give the border 1.6 billion to fix fences and supply regular funding of border patrol. You can expect to see a deal on DACA without any strings attached like getting rid of chain migration. Not going to happen, not any of it.
Now, today Trump is likely to sign the two week funding extension as Congress goes out on vacation.
And don't expect Planned Parenthood to be on the chopping block either. Democrats have enjoyed this administration caving to their desires. Trump has had kid gloves the whole time. Coddling the wants of the Democratic party. Now they will have free reign and Trump has not pushed his authority one bit. Rather it has been two years of drama, firings, suspicion and investigation. I think he has loved the "witch hunt". He thrives on his many, many times he has been sued or under investigation.
Now Kelly is the next one to go. It is being reported he is expected to resign. Trump and him are not talking. Well I don't know whether Kelly was doing his job or not, but Trump hired all the people he fired.
Oh, and I can't forget Liberals Rudy Guliani, Cohen, Amorosa. Acosta, Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
Trump was never a Republican but he ran on the Republican ticket because running a third party would not have landed him the Presidency.
You seem to want the President to shut everything down...set aside every other issue...and die in a political Alamo...to get the things he wants such as less abortion, less funding for PP, a wall, and spending reductions. Sounds great if you're a philosopher living in a vacuum...and would be pure counterproductive idiocy in reality. If the President followed your Utopian advice, we would lose the Senate in addition to the House....hand the Presidency back to the Left in 2020...and ignite broad and deep political defeats of conservatism across the nation. But hey, as long as we had the moral victory of saying we shut down the government and died defending the hill...right? Might there be a time to shut everything down...yes...but sure as hell not when the GOP controls both houses of congress and the White House, and therefore will take 100% of the blame for a shut down.
The irony is, the President COULD have achieved much of these things you seem to want...had he not been continuously undermined by folks like yourself in the NT Camp...you of the Flake, McCain, Murkowski, Collins Trump hate clan.
The President must operate within the reality of what CAN be accomplished politically...not the philosophical realm of fight every fight until he achieves political oblivion for himself and the GOP. He has to get in the mud in fight for inches...not ride a unicorn over a rainbow to the pot of gold.
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President's can't legislate...that's congress job. Trump works night and day to achieve the things promised in his campaign, and every who's NOT a peawit realizes the road block to accomplishing these things is the NT wing of the GOP...the Flakes, McCain's, Murkowskis, Collins', Oncelers, Chosendaughters, and the host of folks who'd rather lift the Left to permanent victory than let an upstart Republican president achieve goals like a Border Wall or defunding of PP.
How ironic that those who would blame the President for not achieving these promises, are the very ones who've blocked him from achieving them.
As for Tucker, he's a realist and a supporter of Trump's policies...likely a bit frustrated that Trump has let these Republican Quislings stop his agenda. Make no mistake though, Carlson knows and repeatedly asserts that the GOP NT's are the one's truly at fault. Their pathetic opposition to anything Trump...no matter how common sensical or conservative in nature...is the problem. For the Dems, these folks are useful idiots...and they were happy to ride them to power in the House, and now aim to take back the White House with the assistance of NeverTrump Republicans.
This is reasonable comment. But let's face it - Trump does more than his share to establish the tone of confrontation, petty insults and hyper-partisanship, and unlike most Dems is not hesitant to mock for the benefit of his base members of his own party. It is hardly surprising the so-called NTs react the way they do.
And the situation is hardly helped when usually intelligent folks like @Mesaclone fan the flames by referring to "Republican Quislings". But that's Trump in a nutshell - unreasonable demands for fealty backed up by insults and name-calling.
The problem within the GOP predates Trump, however. Our coalition is a shaky one - good Republicans are routinely labeled RINOs, and the fighting between social conservatives and other conservatives is a daily feature of this board. I give the Dems credit for being, at least in recent times, a far more unified caucus than we are. And that unity has only increased under Trump, an easy and obvious enemy to focus their passion on.
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This is reasonable comment. But let's face it - Trump does more than his share to establish the tone of confrontation, petty insults and hyper-partisanship, and unlike most Dems is not hesitant to mock for the benefit of his base members of his own party. It is hardly surprising the so-called NTs react the way they do.
The problem within the GOP predates Trump, however. Our coalition is a shaky one - good Republicans are routinely labeled RINOs, and the fighting between social conservatives and other conservatives is a daily feature of this board. I give the Dems credit for being, at least in recent times, a far more unified caucus than we are. And that unity has only increased under Trump, an easy and obvious enemy to focus their passion on.
The problem DOES predate Trump. In fact, I'd argue that the "tone of confrontation" has existed for at least a dozen years...and that Trump is the first Republican to...finally...actually fire back and fight back. Considering that, blaming him for the "hostile environment" is just rich...when your teammates are getting punched in the face, I don't blame the guy who finally punches back. Nor do I credit those who claim counter-punching is immoral...or retroactively the cause of the hostile situation. And if a few of the teammates find it "crude" or "undignified" to fight back...preferring to perpetually turn the other cheek while getting itch-slapped...then that's a them problem.
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The problem DOES predate Trump. In fact, I'd argue that the "tone of confrontation" has existed for at least a dozen years...and that Trump is the first Republican to...finally...actually fire back and fight back. Considering that, blaming him for the "hostile environment" is just rich...when your teammates are getting punched in the face, I don't blame the guy who finally punches back. Nor do I credit those who claim counter-punching is immoral...or retroactively the cause of the hostile situation. And if a few of the teammates find it "crude" or "undignified" to fight back...preferring to perpetually turn the other cheek while getting itch-slapped...then that's a them problem.
But your ire doesn't appear to be directed toward the "other team", but rather toward long-standing members of the GOP coalition - teammates - who you deem insufficiently loyal to your man.
Trump's only been a Republican and a conservative for a few years now. The conservative credentials of those you label NTs go back decades.
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Trump did say on the campaign trail that he would get these things done.
He still has 2 years left on his first term, but it won't get easier.
Of course, he has the current congress and the upcoming congress to deal with, but wasn't that always the case, that he had to deal with congress?
Let's be honest, he didn't campaign saying "I will work hard with congress to achieve building a border wall, repealing Obamacare, and defunding planned parenthood".
No, he said "I will build border wall, repealing Obamacare, and defunding planned parenthood".
Subtle difference, but a difference, nonetheless.
Many people bought into the notion that he alone could accomplish these things, for a myriad of reasons.
He's a businessman, he fights, he will reach across the aisle, he'll drain the swamp, etc.
It is not over yet, but i think accomplishing these things it's more unlikely than before.
Hey, don't get me wrong, I still like the court picks, the tax cuts, and the deregulation.
The threat of tariffs is okay, but that actual tariffs may come into fruition makes me a bit nervous.
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The irony is, for Trump to have done all these things he would have had to be a dictator, which is the same thing the Resistance NT'ers complain about him being every time he tweets.
The F Trump crowd is downright asinine at times in their desperation.
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The irony is, for Trump to have done all these things he would have had to be a dictator, which is the same thing the Resistance NT'ers complain about him being every time he tweets.
The F Trump crowd is downright asinine at times in their desperation.
They are also increasingly marginalized. I'm fairly certain the average non loony-rat voter does not like the non-stop piling on to Trump they see coming from the media and the talking heads.
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President's can't legislate...that's congress job. Trump works night and day to achieve the things promised in his campaign, and every who's NOT a peawit realizes the road block to accomplishing these things is the NT wing of the GOP...the Flakes, McCain's, Murkowskis, Collins', Oncelers, Chosendaughters, and the host of folks who'd rather lift the Left to permanent victory than let an upstart Republican president achieve goals like a Border Wall or defunding of PP.
Maybe he should have done a little study in civics, before he said this.....
Sorry... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KGenVcak5nI#)
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They said we want the House and the Senate.
We gave them all of that???
Then they say,,,"Well, I need more than that?"
What more is there.
Republicans suck balls.
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But your ire doesn't appear to be directed toward the "other team", but rather toward long-standing members of the GOP coalition - teammates - who you deem insufficiently loyal to your man.
Trump's only been a Republican and a conservative for a few years now. The conservative credentials of those you label NTs go back decades.
I don't care about loyalty to Trump...I care that they are loyal to the conservative agenda. When the GOP president, whoever that President may be, tries to deal a deathblow to Obamacare...I expect every Republican to jump on board. Not sabotage it by changing a vote at the last second. I also expect Republicans not to parrot Leftwing talking points when criticizing the President....again...any GOP President.
I DO expect rational criticism and I DO not expect Republicans to be blindly loyal...but for God's sakes, when your neverending carping and blathering is uplifting the Democratic agenda by undermining a GOP president...ANY freaking GOP President...its best that you not do so. Trump hasn't struggled legislatively because his agenda has been too liberal...he's struggled because Republican Never Trumpers continually undermine his position as he's striving to pass CONSERVATIVE solutions like the Wall, more Defense Spending, tougher Border Patrol enforcement, due process on campus, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Maybe he should have done a little study in civics, before he said this.....
Sorry... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KGenVcak5nI#)
Or perhaps YOU should understand context. Trump was saying he was the ONLY presidential candidate on the GOP side who "could fix it". Which was entirely correct. So his "civics" knowledge was fine...whilst your comprehension of his statement was...well...inadequate.
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I don't care about loyalty to Trump...I care that they are loyal to the conservative agenda. When the GOP president, whoever that President may be, tries to deal a deathblow to Obamacare...I expect every Republican to jump on board.
Well, the good new is, you can expect them to all vote in favor of full repeal again, knowing it won't make it through the House, in the next Congress.
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Well, the good new is, you can expect them to all vote in favor of full repeal again, knowing it won't make it through the House, in the next Congress.
Yes, they're glad to do so when it doesn't matter...which is why the President, and many of us, are so frustrated with the NT crowd in congress (and in the public). The Flake, Sasse, McCain, Murkowski, Collins, NT cabal has done more to gut conservatism than anyone on the Left...they undermine us from within, where we least expect opposition to conservative legislation. It sucks.
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Well, the good new is, you can expect them to all vote in favor of full repeal again, knowing it won't make it through the House, in the next Congress.
:silly:
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IMHO Trump didn't have a clue when he ran on the campaign promises that he made. I believe that he thought as being President, he could do all. Then after he was sworn in he got a very quick lesson in the different function of the 3 branches of government and found out the limitation of the executive branch.
In addition to that the MSM tried to chew him up and spit him out and the McCain's of the party tried and are still trying to take him down. It's amazing really that he's accomplished what he has in the time that he has all things considered.
People fail to recognize that he is 1 person and we have 535 members of Congress that are responsible for what happens. Not holding them responsible for their failures is the fault of the voters that voted them in, not Trump's fault.
Are there things that perhaps Trump could have done are could do in the future? Of course. However there are things that the GOP majority should have done the past 4 years and they FAILED. We now have a DEM majority in the House. So ... the GOP will play the blame game once again and accomplish even less. Ryan is finally gone, but we're back to leadership under Pelosi and the Turtle still leads the Senate. Does anyone truly believe that anything is going to get any better??
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IMHO Trump didn't have a clue when he ran on the campaign promises that he made. I believe that he thought as being President, he could do all. Then after he was sworn in he got a very quick lesson in the different function of the 3 branches of government and found out the limitation of the executive branch.
Remember when Kelly said Trump was uninformed and evolving?
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IMHO Trump didn't have a clue when he ran on the campaign promises that he made. I believe that he thought as being President, he could do all. Then after he was sworn in he got a very quick lesson in the different function of the 3 branches of government and found out the limitation of the executive branch.
In addition to that the MSM tried to chew him up and spit him out and the McCain's of the party tried and are still trying to take him down. It's amazing really that he's accomplished what he has in the time that he has all things considered.
People fail to recognize that he is 1 person and we have 535 members of Congress that are responsible for what happens. Not holding them responsible for their failures is the fault of the voters that voted them in, not Trump's fault.
Are there things that perhaps Trump could have done are could do in the future? Of course. However there are things that the GOP majority should have done the past 4 years and they FAILED. We now have a DEM majority in the House. So ... the GOP will play the blame game once again and accomplish even less. Ryan is finally gone, but we're back to leadership under Pelosi and the Turtle still leads the Senate. Does anyone truly believe that anything is going to get any better??
In other words Trump simply said whatever it took to make the deal, art of the deal style.
And some foolish people believed him. And instead of facing the truth of it they come up with rationalizations as to why what he promised didn't materialize with none of it being his or their fault.
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I don't care about loyalty to Trump...I care that they are loyal to the conservative agenda. When the GOP president, whoever that President may be, tries to deal a deathblow to Obamacare...I expect every Republican to jump on board. Not sabotage it by changing a vote at the last second. I also expect Republicans not to parrot Leftwing talking points when criticizing the President....again...any GOP President.
I DO expect rational criticism and I DO not expect Republicans to be blindly loyal...but for God's sakes, when your neverending carping and blathering is uplifting the Democratic agenda by undermining a GOP president...ANY freaking GOP President...its best that you not do so. Trump hasn't struggled legislatively because his agenda has been too liberal...he's struggled because Republican Never Trumpers continually undermine his position as he's striving to pass CONSERVATIVE solutions like the Wall, more Defense Spending, tougher Border Patrol enforcement, due process on campus, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Conservatism involves enduring principles about human behavior; having absolutely
nothing to do w/political horse manure. NOTHING!
Trump cannot judge character which is why he appoints incompetent subordinates.
Nor can he instill fear in his enemies which is why they urinate on him daily.
Those w/o these attributes, behaviors and traits are NOT leaders. Try getting real!
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Conservatism involves enduring principles about human behavior; having absolutely
nothing to do w/political horse manure. NOTHING!
Trump cannot judge character which is why he appoints incompetent subordinates.
Nor can he instill fear in his enemies which is why they urinate on him daily.
Those w/o these attributes, behaviors and traits are NOT leaders. Try getting real!
Deserves to be reposted.
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In other words Trump simply said whatever it took to make the deal, art of the deal style.
And some foolish people believed him. And instead of facing the truth of it they come up with rationalizations as to why what he promised didn't materialize with none of it being his or their fault.
All of what you say is true.
But then we could say the same about our "Republican" House/Senate. I can't say trump failed when ryan/mcturtle never even put him in position for us to judge.
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All of what you say is true.
But then we could say the same about our "Republican" House/Senate. I can't say trump failed when ryan/mcturtle never even put him in position for us to judge.
Trump was the one who repeatedly told us he was the only one who could do it because he was the great deal maker. He knew how to get things done due to his extensive business dealings. His followers repeated that over and over as if it were true ignoring all the red flags.
The simple truth is he lied. He had no idea how to effectively deal with people in government that he needed support from. He pissed off nearly everyone he had to work with to make those "deals" and then had the gall to blame everyone but himself.
He also embraced the swamp immediately after being elected when he said just prior to the election he was going to "drain it" and "lock Hillary up". By embracing Ryan and McConnell and letting Hillary walk he is also responsible for what they've done. He had choices and chose incorrectly from day one.
Virtually every single person that Trump chose to work in his administration is "disloyal, dumb and lazy" after they have a falling out with him. And his followers pile on with rage and hate towards his latest casualty. Why would anyone be willing to take those positions after what they see him do over and over.
Never mind the obvious common denominator to it all. The man responsible for it. He gets a pass.
In reality the buck stops with him whether he wants to accept that or not.
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President's can't legislate...that's congress job.
You are correct, but then again, why should Trump make campaign promises he cannot keep?
And lets not forget about the second part of his campaign promise: make Mexico pay for the wall.
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You are correct, but then again, why should Trump make campaign promises he cannot keep?
And lets not forget about the second part of his campaign promise: make Mexico pay for the wall.
Whatever it takes to get their vote. Results are secondary.
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Trump was the one who repeatedly told us he was the only one who could do it because he was the great deal maker. He knew how to get things done due to his extensive business dealings. His followers repeated that over and over as if it were true ignoring all the red flags.
The simple truth is he lied. He had no idea how to effectively deal with people in government that he needed support from. He pissed off nearly everyone he had to work with to make those "deals" and then had the gall to blame everyone but himself.
He also embraced the swamp immediately after being elected when he said just prior to the election he was going to "drain it" and "lock Hillary up". By embracing Ryan and McConnell and letting Hillary walk he is also responsible for what they've done. He had choices and chose incorrectly from day one.
Virtually every single person that Trump chose to work in his administration is "disloyal, dumb and lazy" after they have a falling out with him. And his followers pile on with rage and hate towards his latest casualty. Why would anyone be willing to take those positions after what they see him do over and over.
Never mind the obvious common denominator to it all. The man responsible for it. He gets a pass.
In reality the buck stops with him whether he wants to accept that or not.
Exactly right, and it deserves to be repeated.
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Trump might have been able to fulfill his campaign promises had he not taken an adversarial tone with members of his own party from the onset. Calling them all "swamp creatures" and such did not endear him to the congress-people he needed to get things done. Yes, I have heard the same tired excuse over and over again that the president cannot legislate. But as president, Trump should have had more influence with congress to accomplish what both he and the Republicans in congress said they wanted to do. If they supposedly wanted the same things, why could they not work together for those goals?
When the Democrats wanted to push through Obamacare, they got it done. Although I doubt Obama had any influence in shaping the legislation, he did work to promote it. Seemed to me like the Democrats got together and did what they had to do.
But the Republicans and Trump have never shown that same commitment, that same spirit of cooperation and working together. Yes, the Republicans in congress are at fault -- they are lazy and corrupt. But Trump as the supposed boss of a wealthy empire, could have used his alleged bossing and art-of-the-deal skills to bring them all together and get it done. He didn't do that. Instead, Trump spent much of the last two years on his rock star tour of the US whining, complaining and continuing to make promises he either couldn't or wouldn't keep.
As a result, what do we have -- out of all the major promises, we have "tax reform" that is really little more than tax tweaking. Maybe some businesses and individuals got some benefit from it -- and by the way, I'm not jealous of those who did benefit -- but for most people, it did nothing and for some it may have caused their taxes to rise. But we still have Obamacare,we still have hordes of illegals and so-called "refugees" invading our country, we sill have an unfair tax system, we still fund Planned Parenthood, and our government is still spending money it doesn't have.
And now that the Democrats have taken over the House, you cam be sure nothing will be done within the next two years. About the only change will be that Trump will have a different scapegoat to blame for his failings -- the Democrats. It's too bad. Had Trump and congressional Republicans put their heads together, they might have accomplished a lot in two years. Instead, it was two years wasted on petty squabbles and Trump's rock star tour. Both Trump and the Republicans share the blame. And its time Trump's starry eyed fans realize that.
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Conservatism involves enduring principles about human behavior; having absolutely
nothing to do w/political horse manure. NOTHING!
Trump cannot judge character which is why he appoints incompetent subordinates.
Nor can he instill fear in his enemies which is why they urinate on him daily.
Those w/o these attributes, behaviors and traits are NOT leaders. Try getting real!
Everyone has ideals...Left and Right.
How you get those ideals enacted into legislation is the "political horse manure" you refer to. Only a naive fool or an ideologue thinks "their enduring principles" magically become law simply because YOU think they are right. Politics is the ugly Modus Operandi and and those too stupid or too noble to master that M.O are doomed to failure...i.e. the NeverTrump Republican/Conservatives.
As for his enemies fearing him...they fear the hell out of him, and they loathe him because he is the ONLY thing between them and Liberal Utopia. They are glad to use the "useful idiots" on the conservative side of the aisle to undermine that one obstacle to their supremacy...and sadly, too many of the Right's useful idiots are content to be used as long as they can righteously claim they are "holding to enduring principles".
News for you, your enduring "principles" are no more closely held to than those of us who support the GOP President...we, however, are also realists and understand that reason, calculation and even compromise MUST be implemented to advance those principles. Your principles of no use to anyone if you are exiled to political Siberia because you were too arrogant and shortsighted to cope with "political horse manure".
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Trump was the one who repeatedly told us he was the only one who could do it because he was the great deal maker. He knew how to get things done due to his extensive business dealings. His followers repeated that over and over as if it were true ignoring all the red flags.
The simple truth is he lied. He had no idea how to effectively deal with people in government that he needed support from. He pissed off nearly everyone he had to work with to make those "deals" and then had the gall to blame everyone but himself.
He also embraced the swamp immediately after being elected when he said just prior to the election he was going to "drain it" and "lock Hillary up". By embracing Ryan and McConnell and letting Hillary walk he is also responsible for what they've done. He had choices and chose incorrectly from day one.
Virtually every single person that Trump chose to work in his administration is "disloyal, dumb and lazy" after they have a falling out with him. And his followers pile on with rage and hate towards his latest casualty. Why would anyone be willing to take those positions after what they see him do over and over.
Never mind the obvious common denominator to it all. The man responsible for it. He gets a pass.
In reality the buck stops with him whether he wants to accept that or not.
I could never have dreamed that I would be arguing with people about a President that fills his cabinet with liberals and complains about them later. I can't believe that a Republican president would choose liberal lawyers and have his liberal family working for him. And almost every person he hires he sends through his revolving door eventually. We have spent two years defending President Trump from his own friends and appointments. That is why nothing has been done. And to think that people can defend Trump tweets like the one he sent about Kelly the other day where he calls him lazy and dumb. He is only calling him lazy and dumb because he is the next witness in the "witch hunt". Trump isn't innocent of anything and that is the reason why we can't move on. He doesn't have anyone he can really trust. So no matter whether Hillary or any other politician has done the same or not doesn't change that we are stuck in Russia investigation hell.
Trump excused and even honored Hillary now he wants to change course. I was liking the images of Hillary in the orange prison jumpsuit. Then immediately on Inauguration day he is saying how honored he is to have Hillary present. Then he says to media she has suffered enough. Now he wants to change course?
How about the president get something done with immigration. The thousands who have come in caravans are now making it in to the United States but all that is on FOX New is Russia Investigation and the people Trump is sending to his revolving door. Never before has illegal immigration been at these levels. You can thank Trump and rhetoric without action.
What Republican President hires liberals and trashes his own party?
Trump is a slime bucket that said he is going to drain the swamp. You can't drain the swamp when you are the swamp.
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Trump might have been able to fulfill his campaign promises had he not taken an adversarial tone with members of his own party from the onset. Calling them all "swamp creatures" and such did not endear him to the congress-people he needed to get things done. Yes, I have heard the same tired excuse over and over again that the president cannot legislate. But as president, Trump should have had more influence with congress to accomplish what both he and the Republicans in congress said they wanted to do. If they supposedly wanted the same things, why could they not work together for those goals?
When the Democrats wanted to push through Obamacare, they got it done. Although I doubt Obama had any influence in shaping the legislation, he did work to promote it. Seemed to me like the Democrats got together and did what they had to do.
But the Republicans and Trump have never shown that same commitment, that same spirit of cooperation and working together. Yes, the Republicans in congress are at fault -- they are lazy and corrupt. But Trump as the supposed boss of a wealthy empire, could have used his alleged bossing and art-of-the-deal skills to bring them all together and get it done. He didn't do that. Instead, Trump spent much of the last two years on his rock star tour of the US whining, complaining and continuing to make promises he either couldn't or wouldn't keep.
As a result, what do we have -- out of all the major promises, we have "tax reform" that is really little more than tax tweaking. Maybe some businesses and individuals got some benefit from it -- and by the way, I'm not jealous of those who did benefit -- but for most people, it did nothing and for some it may have caused their taxes to rise. But we still have Obamacare,we still have hordes of illegals and so-called "refugees" invading our country, we sill have an unfair tax system, we still fund Planned Parenthood, and our government is still spending money it doesn't have.
And now that the Democrats have taken over the House, you cam be sure nothing will be done within the next two years. About the only change will be that Trump will have a different scapegoat to blame for his failings -- the Democrats. It's too bad. Had Trump and congressional Republicans put their heads together, they might have accomplished a lot in two years. Instead, it was two years wasted on petty squabbles and Trump's rock star tour. Both Trump and the Republicans share the blame. And its time Trump's starry eyed fans realize that.
:thumbsup: Agree with everything you said whole heartedly.
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News for you, your enduring "principles" are no more closely held to than those of us who support the GOP President...we, however, are also realists and understand that reason, calculation and even compromise MUST be implemented to advance those principles. Your principles of no use to anyone if you are exiled to political Siberia because you were too arrogant and shortsighted to cope with "political horse manure".
That is literally impossible and incompatible. Your outlook is at the expense of those very principles... EVERY TIME.
That is not 'winning'.
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Everyone has ideals...Left and Right.
How you get those ideals enacted into legislation is the "political horse manure" you refer to. Only a naive fool or an ideologue thinks "their enduring principles" magically become law simply because YOU think they are right. Politics is the ugly Modus Operandi and and those too stupid or too noble to master that M.O are doomed to failure...i.e. the NeverTrump Republican/Conservatives.
As for his enemies fearing him...they fear the hell out of him, and they loathe him because he is the ONLY thing between them and Liberal Utopia. They are glad to use the "useful idiots" on the conservative side of the aisle to undermine that one obstacle to their supremacy...and sadly, too many of the Right's useful idiots are content to be used as long as they can righteously claim they are "holding to enduring principles".
News for you, your enduring "principles" are no more closely held to than those of us who support the GOP President...we, however, are also realists and understand that reason, calculation and even compromise MUST be implemented to advance those principles. Your principles of no use to anyone if you are exiled to political Siberia because you were too arrogant and shortsighted to cope with "political horse manure".
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TBF is an opinion site where I expressed mine.
Obviously contrary ideas/opinions send you into an illiterate rage. How sad.
The self taught Greeks, who created Western Civilization, understood that enduring
principles were the foundation of culture/society but you know better.
Perhaps you've heard of Jefferson, Madison and Adams??? Hmm......maybe not.
As for your republicrat weenies; they never had anything to do w/conservative
principle, NOT for a day!
The wisdom of the past asserted that:
* Character is destiny;
* It's far better the Prince be feared rather than loved.
but our self-described 'stable genius' remains utterly oblivious.
Hysterically laughable!!!
P.S. The wisdom of Greece and Rome is in the library. It's the stone building w/the books inside!!!