The Briefing Room
General Category => Economy/Business => Topic started by: thackney on January 31, 2019, 09:04:52 pm
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Ford Ranger Demand Is Absolutely Unhinged, Ford Already Scheduling 'Massive Overtime'
https://jalopnik.com/ford-ranger-demand-is-absolutely-unhinged-ford-already-1832228163
1st Gear: Ford Putting 90 Percent of Capital Into Trucks and SUVs
Remember all of those years when enthusiasts mourned the loss of the Ford Ranger? Our time is now. President of Ford’s North American Operations, Kumar Galhotra, told reporters in Detroit on Wednesday that the company has such demand for the new Ranger that it’s already planning “massive overtime†to meet it. Ford considers its production capacity completely see-saw’d in the wrong direction, per a Bloomberg wire report:
Ford and General Motors Co. are slashing production of sedans and small cars, as automakers struggle with the collapse of demand for the traditional family car that has left them with excess factory capacity to make 3 million of those unwanted models. At the same time, they are boosting production of trucks and sport-utility vehicles to meet booming demand.
Galhotra said Ford is now putting 90 percent of its capital expenditure into producing trucks and SUVs. He didn’t provide further details on the planned production increase for the Ranger....
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Confirmed: Ford Ranger Raptor Will Not Be Sold in the US
http://www.thedrive.com/news/24336/confirmed-ford-ranger-raptor-will-not-be-sold-in-the-us (http://www.thedrive.com/news/24336/confirmed-ford-ranger-raptor-will-not-be-sold-in-the-us)
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The trouble with the big car co's is they are like a low in the water, heavy drafting tanker ship piloted by a drunk cabin boy. By the time they turn the ship they have run aground. The Ranger is 2 years 2 late. Or more. Once it hit the showrooms it will be an over weight pig and over priced by 5 grand.
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The trouble with the big car co's is they are like a low in the water, heavy drafting tanker ship piloted by a drunk cabin boy. By the time they turn the ship they have run aground. The Ranger is 2 years 2 late. Or more. Once it hit the showrooms it will be an over weight pig and over priced by 5 grand.
My bet would be that the high initial demand is because a lot of Baby Boomer hayseeds are getting too old to get into an F-150's. After they all buy their last car before the nursing home sales will drop like a stone.
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My bet would be that the high initial demand is because a lot of Baby Boomer hayseeds are getting too old to get into an F-150's. After they all buy their last car before the nursing home sales will drop like a stone.
I wish to be buried in my new 2025 Ranchero please. I know Ford will build it.
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I wish to be buried in my new 2025 Ranchero please. I know Ford will build it.
Ford has heard you and is going to deliver....
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Ford has heard you and is going to deliver....
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Sweet. I can't wait. I wan't the SVO version. 333cleo
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All the new trucks are so Big. That has to be chapping some on the left.
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There surely has not been much from the Big Three, when it comes to "sedans," etc.
Germans, Japanese and Koreans take such vehicles seriously.
Just one example: Station wagons.
Mercedes, BMW, Audi VW, Volvo, Acura, Subaru all sell wagons in the US market.
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All the new trucks are so Big. That has to be chapping some on the left.
It is the left that did it = Try and find something other than a Tahoe or Suburban for a family of six. All there is is minivans otherwise, and who can blame a guy for seeing the Suburban as being the safer thing to put his family in?
The very same thing goes with 4dr pickups. Folks back east don't understand how ubiquitous the pickup truck is in flyover country. That a guy can fit his family in it is all the better.
The CrownVics and Caprices were already getting too small for a typical rural family... Now that they're gone, what did you think was gonna happen?
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There surely has not been much from the Big Three, when it comes to "sedans," etc.
Germans, Japanese and Koreans take such vehicles seriously.
Just one example: Station wagons.
Mercedes, BMW, Audi VW, Volvo, Acura, Subaru all sell wagons in the US market.
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The Ranger is on my son's short list. He's wanting either the Ranger or the Colorado ZR2 sometime this summer.
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I've got a 2001XL with 580,000 on it..it's not fancy just runs.. :shrug:
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I STILL miss my Ranger. My dog outgrew it. I will definitely look at the new one. .
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Love my 88 Ranger. Looking forward to see one of these babies up close. Looks like it might be wise to give it a year to make sure it's not a lemon-mobile and let demand even out.
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Ford F-Series Is America's Best Selling Truck for 42nd Straight Year
http://www.thedrive.com/news/25771/ford-f-series-is-americas-best-selling-truck-for-42nd-straight-year (http://www.thedrive.com/news/25771/ford-f-series-is-americas-best-selling-truck-for-42nd-straight-year)
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Folks back east don't understand how ubiquitous the pickup truck is in flyover country. That a guy can fit his family in it is all the better.
We live in the east so we don't understand? stupid statement.
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Ford F-Series Is America's Best Selling Truck for 42nd Straight Year
http://www.thedrive.com/news/25771/ford-f-series-is-americas-best-selling-truck-for-42nd-straight-year (http://www.thedrive.com/news/25771/ford-f-series-is-americas-best-selling-truck-for-42nd-straight-year)
Yeah, because the world is full of stupid people. Talk to anyone who is happy about the durability of their F150 aluminum bed? I haven't found anyone.
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Wonder if they will make a B2000 also. While they are at it how about bringing back the Pinto of trucks, the Courier
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Ford has heard you and is going to deliver....
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A SHO Ranger!
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Wonder if they will make a B2000 also. While they are at it how about bringing back the Pinto of trucks, the Courier
Is Ford Looking to Bring a Car-Based Pickup Truck to the U.S.?
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a22577370/is-ford-looking-to-bring-a-car-based-pickup-truck-to-the-us/ (https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a22577370/is-ford-looking-to-bring-a-car-based-pickup-truck-to-the-us/)
Model may revive the Courier nameplate.
ord is rumored to be working on a small subcompact pickup truck that may also make its way to the North American market. The new truck is expected to serve as the informal replacement to the Ford Courier—a small pickup that was sold in countries such as Brazil and Mexico.
Whereas the previous Courier was based on old Ford Fiesta components, Automobile Magazine reported the new model will share its underpinnings with the latest global Ford Focus compact car....
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We live in the east so we don't understand? stupid statement.
I don't know why it would be... One of the things folks from back east are astonished by is how very many pickups are on the road out here. I hear it all the time from kin coming out to visit. :shrug:
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Wonder if they will make a B2000 also. While they are at it how about bringing back the Pinto of trucks, the Courier
LOL. The Courier. Those pieces were getting warranty work done on them just from being lot driven by dealers before they were sold.
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LOL. The Courier. Those pieces were getting warranty work done on them just from being lot driven by dealers before they were sold.
How 'bout a Chevy, Er, Isuzu LUV? I bet David Leisure would love to bring back 'Joe Isuzu'.
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LOL. The Courier. Those pieces were getting warranty work done on them just from being lot driven by dealers before they were sold.
They were Ford's version of the Vega. It rusted on the showroom floors.
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Confirmed: Ford Ranger Raptor Will Not Be Sold in the US
http://www.thedrive.com/news/24336/confirmed-ford-ranger-raptor-will-not-be-sold-in-the-us (http://www.thedrive.com/news/24336/confirmed-ford-ranger-raptor-will-not-be-sold-in-the-us)
That's too bad. I guess I'll be hanging on to my older. low-mileage Fords for a bit longer.
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I wouldn't mind a small truck for the occasional chores (like picking up 30 bags of mulch). Especially with the price of new trucks hitting $50K plus. I suspect though, this new batch of small trucks won't be economically priced like they were in the past.
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How 'bout a Chevy, Er, Isuzu LUV? I bet David Leisure would love to bring back 'Joe Isuzu'.
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LOL, I had an Izusu truck.
I couldn't kill it.
I gave it to my daughter, after I put 165,000 on it.
She wrecked it, told me it was totaled.
I took her word for it.
She was wrong.
I saw it going down the road a few years later, same truck.
When I gave her the truck, I bought a Ranger.
I bought one because I wanted another small truck.
I talked to 3 different owners who had 150,000 to 250,000 mile on them.
Well, I must have bought one built on a Monday morning or a Friday afternoon, because I started have issues @ 37K.
I traded it in, in 2006, still owing 1-1/2 years of notes on the Ranger, for a Toyota.
I'm still driving that Toyota.
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LOL, I had an Izusu truck.
I couldn't kill it.
I gave it to my daughter, after I put 165,000 on it.
She wrecked it, told me it was totaled.
I took her word for it.
She was wrong.
I saw it going down the road a few years later, same truck.
That Isuzu had more US Domestic content than the Chevies did back then.
I'd give your daughter a pass on the totaled car thing. Insurance companies often put cars they've "totaled" on the auction block to be resold to somebody who doesn't mind fixing it well enough to run, but not up the the specs the Insurance company would have had to in order to restore the car to the condition it was before the crash. That would explain why you saw the same car back on the road. The new owner may have even done the body work himself.
A "totaled" car is not always a quick trip to a car crusher.
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That Isuzu had more US Domestic content than the Chevies did back then.
I'd give your daughter a pass on the totaled car thing. Insurance companies often put cars they've "totaled" on the auction block to be resold to somebody who doesn't mind fixing it well enough to run, but not up the the specs the Insurance company would have had to in order to restore the car to the condition it was before the crash. That would explain why you saw the same car back on the road. The new owner may have even done the body work himself.
A "totaled" car is not always a quick trip to a car crusher.
I hear ya.
If I had still owned it, I'd have checked it out.
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I wouldn't mind a small truck for the occasional chores (like picking up 30 bags of mulch). Especially with the price of new trucks hitting $50K plus. I suspect though, this new batch of small trucks won't be economically priced like they were in the past.
Ford Ranger starts at $24,300 MSRP.
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I hear ya.
If I had still owned it, I'd have checked it out.
Understandable. One does not need to accept the "totaled" designation and give the car up to the insurance company.
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Ford Ranger starts at $24,300 MSRP.
Too much. It should start at 19K
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You can buy a base model Frontier for about 19K.
But why? That truck is 15 years old. The Ranger is worth the extra money.
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Too much. It should start at 19K
You haven't bought a new truck lately, have you?
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How 'bout a Chevy, Er, Isuzu LUV? I bet David Leisure would love to bring back 'Joe Isuzu'.
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All those small trucks were shit, but Chevy Luvs were better than that Currier and people still run those Luv shitboxes today. I haven't seen a Currier live and in person since Reagan was President.
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Too much. It should start at 19K
Exactly. They need to leave room in a buyers budget for AAA towing service.
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You haven't bought a new truck lately, have you?
If you mean one of those $50k Texas Edition POS urban cowboy poser trucks for the shit kickers.... No I havent.
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If you mean one of those $50k Texas Edition POS urban cowboy poser trucks for the shit kickers.... No I havent.
No, I drive a fairly basic Chevy. Not the big, testosterone laden ones.
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No, I drive a fairly basic Chevy. Not the big, testosterone laden ones.
Are those big ones "toxic?" :laugh:
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Are those big ones "toxic?" :laugh:
Only if they have the velour seats.
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Only if they have the velour seats.
Any guy who has seats like that should be poisoned. Probably.
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Understandable. One does not need to accept the "totaled" designation and give the car up to the insurance company.
How times change, I had '70 Delmonte 88 a guy ran into me and the insurance company totaled it wrote me a minuscule check and said keep it, same thing happened with '72 Lincoln(damn drunk Irishmen). But a few years later my 85 Jeep Grand Wagoneer decided to play barbecue while my wife was driving and the insurance told me that I was welcome to submit a sealed bid if I wanted it. Hell the windshield didn't even crack, interior was smoky but cherry and the car was just to valuable for parts, I really miss that car.
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How times change, I had '70 Delmonte 88 a guy ran into me and the insurance company totaled it wrote me a minuscule check and said keep it, same thing happened with '72 Lincoln(damn drunk Irishmen). But a few years later my 85 Jeep Grand Wagoneer decided to play barbecue while my wife was driving and the insurance told me that I was welcome to submit a sealed bid if I wanted it. Hell the windshield didn't even crack, interior was smoky but cherry and the car was just to valuable for parts, I really miss that car.
For me, it wold depend on why it's totaled. If it's because of a bent Unibody frame, I'd let it go no matter what I could salvage from it, it's Effed. Maybe if I could keep the drive train...maybe. If the frame is bent, screw it. No matter what Collision Repair tells me, it can't be fixed.
They will promise the moon, but it will still drive cockeyed down the road. They lie.
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But a few years later my 85 Jeep Grand Wagoneer decided to play barbecue while my wife was driving and the insurance told me that I was welcome to submit a sealed bid if I wanted it. Hell the windshield didn't even crack, interior was smoky but cherry and the car was just to valuable for parts, I really miss that ca[/size]r.
You can pick them wagoneers up around here a dime a dozen... My boy just got one for 300 bucks... He's putting it back together. All it needed was a crank sensor.
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For me, it wold depend on why it's totaled. If it's because of a bent Unibody frame, I'd let it go no matter what I could salvage from it, it's Effed. Maybe if I could keep the drive train...maybe. If the frame is bent, screw it. No matter what Collision Repair tells me, it can't be fixed.
They will promise the moon, but it will still drive cockeyed down the road. They lie.
Well with the Jeep my brother had a 87 model and very active kids, my burner had a great interior, new tires on the rims, a great drive train aside from the top end damage and pretty much everything was interchangeable. I have seen shyster work from supposedly reputable body shops, one did repairs to my daughters Honda lease car after a jerk backed into her broadside. When she turned in the lease a year later the adjuster told her it should have never gone back on the road and wrote it off as totaled. A year of her driving it with her child 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000
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You can pick them wagoneers up around here a dime a dozen... My boy just got one for 300 bucks... He's putting it back together. All it needed was a crank sensor.
Yeah unfortunately my days of affording gas for that beast are long gone in California. I had a forty gallon aftermarket tank in the sucker so when I wanted to go somewhere I had real range.
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Yeah unfortunately my days of affording gas for that beast are long gone in California. I had a forty gallon aftermarket tank in the sucker so when I wanted to go somewhere I had real range.
I am still in a 79 chevy 350/stick/4x4... Refit it with 3:73's and a 5 speed (OD), and it really does alright... Still has the saddle tanks, and the replacement tank that fits between the frame rails...and I have a transfer tank up under the saw box... All the way full and with following winds, I could probably make it well into Colorado without filling up... Maybe even further.
That'd be a fun trip - Just see where it runs out...