The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: libertybele on May 14, 2021, 11:22:51 pm
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This is a concern. Sure I think Cheney should absolutely be shown the door, but the GOP should be concerned with who's replacing her. Seating someone worse than Cheney is going to be disastrous.
New Republican Leader Stefanik Has Conservative Rating of Only 44%--Ousted Cheney Had Rating of 78%
Although Republicans in the House of Representatives voted to oust Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wy.) from the GOP's No. 3 leadership post and replace her with Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), the ratings of Congress members by the American Conservative Union (ACU) show that Cheney held a 78% conservative rating in 2020 and Stefanik held a 44% rating.
In addition, the ACU ratings show several GOP women in the House hold far higher conservative ratings than both Stefanik and Cheney...............
https://cnsnews.com/article/washington/michael-w-chapman/new-republican-leader-stefanik-has-conservative-rating-only-44
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But Liz Cheney did not pay proper fealty to Donald Trump.
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But Liz Cheney did not pay proper fealty to Donald Trump.
No she didn't and it is extremely unfortunate that the GOP did not come together while Trump was in office and then was very lax in challenging the constitutionality of what happened during the election. If you are going to side with leftists you might as well join them (IMHO the country club is one big corrupt entity).
The other problem is, and I think this has been the case for awhile, there aren't enough conservatives to replace the garbage in Congress; in part due to McConnell protecting establishment incumbents and he himself siding with the DEMS. McCarthy isn't exactly Mr. conservative either.
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But Liz Cheney did not pay proper fealty to Donald Trump.
Irrelevant. She paid no respect at all to the Constitution or her Party. Trump just took her neo mask off.
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Irrelevant. She paid no respect at all to the Constitution or her Party. Trump just took her neo mask off.
Exactly :beer:
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Irrelevant. She paid no respect at all to the Constitution or her Party. Trump just took her neo mask off.
Liz Cheney voted with Donald Trump more than Stefanik did
I do not agree with her impeachment vote because I do not believe Donald Trump is responsible for those people that rioted at the Capitol. But it seems she was more friendly to Donald Trump’s agenda but I guess she just wasn’t loyal enough
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But Liz Cheney did not pay proper fealty to Donald Trump.
Actually, @LMAO Liz Cheney did not pay proper respect to 75+ million national Republican voters who chose to reelect Donald Trump or the voters in Wyoming on whose dime she's in Washington.
Liz forgot she works for us, not the other way around.
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Actually, @LMAO Liz Cheney did not pay proper respect to 75+ million national Republican voters who chose to reelect Donald Trump or the voters in Wyoming on whose dime she's in Washington.
Liz forgot she works for us, not the other way around.
Absolutely. :amen:
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Liz Cheney voted with Donald Trump more than Stefanik did
I do not agree with her impeachment vote because I do not believe Donald Trump is responsible for those people that rioted at the Capitol. But it seems she was more friendly to Donald Trump’s agenda but I guess she just wasn’t loyal enough
She wasn't just the congressional representative from Wyoming @LMAO Liz was the Chair of the Republican Caucus in the House proclaiming Donald Trump, even as a private citizen, deserved to be impeached and found guilty of insurrection.
That's just damn unacceptable.
As for Stefanik, once she sat in defense of the President during Impeachment I she was liberated from Ryan's tutelage and jumped on Trump's America First train. She's earned a fair shot in her new position.
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So to soothe Trump’s bruised ego, we’re replacing Liz Cheney, who has a near 80% conservative rating, with somebody that has a conservative rating in the 40s.
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So to soothe Trump’s bruised ego, we’re replacing Liz Cheney, who has a near 80% conservative rating, with somebody that has a conservative rating in the 40s.
You completely missed everything that's been posted. It has NOTHING to do with Trump's ego. Nothing. Notta. Zip. Either you haven't been paying attention or you hate the man so much that you'd rather allow the leftists to trample on our Constitution and destroy our Republic. Liz was a party to that.
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So to soothe Trump’s bruised ego, we’re replacing Liz Cheney, who has a near 80% conservative rating, with somebody that has a conservative rating in the 40s.
You mischaracterized everything said on this thread.
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So to soothe Trump’s bruised ego, we’re replacing Liz Cheney, who has a near 80% conservative rating, with somebody that has a conservative rating in the 40s.
This isn't about Trump's ego, bruised or otherwise @LMAO
This is about who leads the Republican Party: Trump and his America First agenda or Bush/Romney/Cheney and their war mongering, globalist, America Last agenda.
We want Trump.
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Most the congressmen in office with an R beside their name have the same rating. I gripped about this new lady Stefank the other day here and only got crickets... so yeah, it was mostly about Cheney not kissing Trump's butt.
Edit: may need to take back some of what I said above, I can't find where I actually complained about the replacement lady on forum. Acting like I did, without proof is lying. I thought it, but I didn't convey it in forum as stated.
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You completely missed everything that's been posted. It has NOTHING to do with Trump's ego. Nothing. Notta. Zip. Either you haven't been paying attention or you hate the man so much that you'd rather allow the leftists to trample on our Constitution and destroy our Republic. Liz was a party to that.
There seems to be a pattern every time one says something that isn’t 100% glowing of Donald Trump, the reply seems to be “you must hate him”
No I do not hate Donald Trump and I voted for him in 2020. And I’ve been on this site since Trump was nominated. Yet I never, ever in that time, until recently, seen any mention of Liz Cheney
I guess I don’t let other people decide my outrages
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Most the congressmen in office with an R beside their name have the same rating. I gripped about this new lady Stefank the other day here and only got crickets... so yeah, it was mostly about Cheney not kissing Trump's butt.
How about Liz is kissing the butts of the globalists just like her Daddy. I see her as anti American. You're right she hates Trump that much as he represents the WILL of WE THE PEOPLE and NOT those intertwined in the Cheney dynasty.
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There seems to be a pattern every time one says something that isn’t 100% glowing of Donald Trump, the reply seems to be “you must hate him”
No I do not hate Donald Trump and I voted for him in 2020. And I’ve been on this site since Trump was nominated. Yet I never, ever in that time, until recently, seen any mention of Liz Cheney
I guess I don’t let other people decide my outrages
No, I don't let other people decide my outrages. Liz did a disservice to every single person that voted for her, period. Yes, what she did I find is an outrage.
I haven't been exactly a huge Trump supporter, but I'll be damned if I stand with someone whose intent was to destroy him so that the globalist would once again prevail, trample our Constitution and destroy our Republic. Liz put the focus on her when she turned her back on those that voted for her and most of all thumbed her nose at conservatism.
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How about Liz is kissing the butts of the globalists just like her Daddy. I see her as anti American. You're right she hates Trump that much as he represents the WILL of WE THE PEOPLE and NOT those intertwined in the Cheney dynasty.
I certainly didn't like Liz, she needed to go.... but like revolution that only puts a worse thing in, this was not fully thought out. Lets just say that perhaps the RINOs liked the thought of getting a more leftist in and Liz gave the excuse.
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The usual noise; how predictable.
Principled Conservatism are attitudes, behaviors and sentiment derived
from the Natural Law, as Plato explained some 2,400 years past.
It has nothing to do and never had w/politics our dominating neurosis in the present.
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I certainly didn't like Liz, she needed to go.... but like revolution that only puts a worse thing in, this was not fully thought out. Lets just say that perhaps the RINOs liked the thought of getting a more leftist in and Liz gave the excuse.
I definitely see your point and certainly that's a very real possibility.
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I definitely see your point and certainly that's a very real possibility.
Gotta watch 'em every minute. That didn't change. :shrug:
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I think we're not paying attention to the nature of the position here. It's a partisan position, not an ideological one.
Liz Cheney, for better or worse, threw party loyalty out the window. Sometimes that's justified, but there are consequences when that happens, and one of those is that the party is going to turn on you.
Stefanik is a party loyalist, and that's why she got the job.
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Stefanik is a party loyalist, and that's why she got the job.
And that right there is the bottom line. goopo
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I think we're not paying attention to the nature of the position here. It's a partisan position, not an ideological one.
Liz Cheney, for better or worse, threw party loyalty out the window. Sometimes that's justified, but there are consequences when that happens, and one of those is that the party is going to turn on you.
Stefanik is a party loyalist, and that's why she got the job.
Well stated @jmyrlefuller. A leader position requires maintaining the party line in public, and the party line for the Rs is *not* anti-Trump. It's anti-D. If Cheney really could not bring herself to stop Trump-bashing and focus instead on defeating the D agenda then she should have resigned her leadership position.
One does not have to be a Trump supporter to recognize that Cheney got what she deserved from the US HoR R caucus.
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With so much approval of Cheney by NeverTrumpers, is there any doubt about her? She would fit right in with Murkowski, Romney, Pelosi or even Hanoi Jane!
**nononono*
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Big freaking deal. Just look at who is deciding what is conservative these days.
Cheney may well be very conservative on one or two specific issues,but a total disaster on everything else.
And.....,if her replacement becomes a problem,we can dump him,too.
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Actually, @LMAO Liz Cheney did not pay proper respect to 75+ million national Republican voters who chose to reelect Donald Trump or the voters in Wyoming on whose dime she's in Washington.
Liz forgot she works for us, not the other way around.
@Right_in_Virginia
Like many other "legacy" "Republicans" in DC,Liz was looking out for Liz.
And who are you common people slugs to hold her birth right against her?
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This isn't about Trump's ego, bruised or otherwise @LMAO
This is about who leads the Republican Party: Trump and his America First agenda or Bush/Romney/Cheney and their war mongering, globalist, America Last agenda.
We want Trump.
@Right_in_Virginia
The choice is clear for the Party People. They want Bush/Romney/Cheney and their war mongering, globalist, America Last agenda.
JEB would have a lock on their votes if he ran.
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Big freaking deal. Just look at who is deciding what is conservative these days.
Cheney may well be very conservative on one or two specific issues,but a total disaster on everything else.
And.....,if her replacement becomes a problem,we can dump him,too.
78% is a very poor Conservative rating.
The people you would recognize as conservative are all above the 85% mark, and most that ARE Conservative are in the 90s
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Poor girl. Everyone is just against her.
It just doesn't make sense.
Bright girl loses leadership spot by saying what she thinks.
Who would have guessed?
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She did do a good job of recruiting women into the 2020 House races, though.
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I think we're not paying attention to the nature of the position here. It's a partisan position, not an ideological one.
Liz Cheney, for better or worse, threw party loyalty out the window. Sometimes that's justified, but there are consequences when that happens, and one of those is that the party is going to turn on you.
Stefanik is a party loyalist, and that's why she got the job.
Stefanik is a POS RINO just like that two faced McCarthy. This country is in big trouble.
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Stefanik is a POS RINO just like that two faced McCarthy. This country is in big trouble.
All this stuff is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. At this point, we’re already screwed.
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All this stuff is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. At this point, we’re already screwed.
Did anybody seriously expect McCarthy would name a conservative to the office?
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Did anybody seriously expect McCarthy would name a conservative to the office?
There was another guy in the running, one with much better conservative org. ratings. I thought that it was Trump’s endorsement of Stefanik that gave her the edge.
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https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1393553087680368641
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Did anybody seriously expect McCarthy would name a conservative to the office?
But she kissed the ring, so it's all good, right? *****rollingeyes*****
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But she kissed the ring, so it's all good, right? *****rollingeyes*****
Tumpy's Pope now? *****rollingeyes*****
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Tumpy's Pope now? *****rollingeyes*****
Yeah, something like that I guess... :shrug:
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Yeah, something like that I guess... :shrug:
If she got the job by kissing a ring, it wasn't Trump's. It's McCarthy's, who I can trust about as far as I can throw a cheesecake under water. If she's not a total disappointment, I'll be a bit happier.
The linchpin here isn't Donald Trump, it's McCarthy. If he's allowed to loaf his way into the Speakership I don't think things will go well. He's a Turtle clone.
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If she got the job by kissing a ring, it wasn't Trump's. It's McCarthy's, who I can trust about as far as I can throw a cheesecake under water. If she's not a total disappointment, I'll be a bit happier.
The linchpin here isn't Donald Trump, it's McCarthy. If he's allowed to loaf his way into the Speakership I don't think things will go well. He's a Turtle clone.
What I have been getting out of all this is that she is pro-Tumpy and her liberal bent can therefore be ignored. Being how I am, judging things by the record, I see that the other way around... Leopards don't change their spots.
But I DO agree with you wrt McCarthy - Until the moderates are pried away from the levers of power, it will be SOSDD.
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The GOP rejecting out of hand a MUCH more Conservative challenge, Chip Roy, is all I need to know that it's still a circus show, selling the cheap seats to US.
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The GOP rejecting out of hand a MUCH more Conservative challenge, Chip Roy, is all I need to know that it's still a circus show, selling the cheap seats to US.
I dunno Chip Roy, but I will take your word on that @corbe ...
And little surprise that I agree.
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If she got the job by kissing a ring, it wasn't Trump's. It's McCarthy's, who I can trust about as far as I can throw a cheesecake under water. If she's not a total disappointment, I'll be a bit happier.
The linchpin here isn't Donald Trump, it's McCarthy. If he's allowed to loaf his way into the Speakership I don't think things will go well. He's a Turtle clone.
All the silly talk about ring kissing aside, bottom line is Cheney got slam dunked for repeating rat talking points. That’s a good thing.
I don’t expect anything good to come from the GOPe anyway, so cannot be disappointed by Stefenik.
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There was another guy in the running, one with much better conservative org. ratings. I thought that it was Trump’s endorsement of Stefanik that gave her the edge.
One of Trump’s downfalls is that he is horrible when it comes to HR issues. He makes very bad choices.
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https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1393619715096973312
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This isn't about Trump's ego, bruised or otherwise @LMAO
This is about who leads the Republican Party: Trump and his America First agenda or Bush/Romney/Cheney and their war mongering, globalist, America Last agenda.
We want Trump.
I want neither Cheney or Stefanik. McCarthy missed an excellent opportunity to push for a strong true conservative. So I really want to know what his motive was.
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I want neither Cheney or Stefanik. McCarthy missed an excellent opportunity to push for a strong true conservative. So I really want to know what his motive was.
His motive is his own self interests, which means the party's interests, over those of the country.
Its the entire problem with Washington.
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With so much approval of Cheney by NeverTrumpers, is there any doubt about her? She would fits right in with Murkowski, Romney, Pelosi or even Hanoi Jane!
**nononono*
There fixed it for ya! happy77
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His motive is his own self interests, which means the party's interests, over those of the country.
Its the entire problem with Washington.
McCarthy is not a conservative, so, I don't expect a whole lot from him.
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His motive is his own self interests, which means the party's interests, over those of the country.
Its the entire problem with Washington.
Not Cyber Liberty's Party! And if things keep going my way, they're gonna hear about it.
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Not Cyber Liberty's Party! And if things keep going my way, they're gonna hear about it.
Man, I sure hope so.
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Man, I sure hope so.
I'm gaining traction. Mrs. Liberty was just elected to the same Executive Board as I.
There are 8 seats on the Board, and two of them have the last name, "Liberty."
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I'm gaining traction. Mrs. Liberty was just elected to the same Executive Board as I.
There are 8 seats on the Board, and two of them have the last name, "Liberty."
nice. if this keeps up I just may leave my beloved coast for dryer climes.
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I'm gaining traction. Mrs. Liberty was just elected to the same Executive Board as I.
There are 8 seats on the Board, and two of them have the last name, "Liberty."
If only we had this happening throughout the U.S. happy77 :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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I think we're not paying attention to the nature of the position here. It's a partisan position, not an ideological one.
(https://media13.s-nbcnews.com/i/mpx/2704722219/2021_05/1620330343532_n_ayman_stefanik_210506_1920x1080.jpg)
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So jeb would have a lock on election, votes. Really? deep Stater jeb, would march the same deep stater lockstep as daddy and grand daddy Bush, and how right that is? NeverTrumpers are loathe to step out into the light, aren't they ?