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Title: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: rangerrebew on November 15, 2017, 12:37:05 pm

What would happen if all Americans went vegan?

By Katie LanginNov. 13, 2017 , 3:15 PM

Consider the hamburger. Producing this staple of the U.S. diet takes 25 kilograms of animal feed, 25 square meters of land, and about 220 liters of water—all for four patties. Statistics like those have persuaded some scientists and environmental activists that eating less meat could have a big impact on carbon and other greenhouse gas emissions. But what would happen if every American made the switch to a plant-only diet? According to a new study, a nation of 320 million vegans would reduce greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture by some 28%, far less than the amount now produced by the livestock industry. The authors claim the switch could also lead to deficiencies in key nutrients—including calcium and several vitamins.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/11/what-would-happen-if-all-americans-went-vegan
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Joe Wooten on November 15, 2017, 01:11:18 pm
Not gonna happen, why even speculate. This is just globull warming propaganda. And I seriously doubt there would be that big a reduction in fossil fuel usage by farmers, in fact, it would probably increase to supply more veggies and fake soy meat to hungry folks starving from a lack of protein.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 15, 2017, 01:35:03 pm
America would be overrun by carnivores within two generations.

Consider that cattle don't burn any diesel fuel converting grass to meat.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Joe Wooten on November 15, 2017, 04:51:57 pm
America would be overrun by carnivores within two generations.

Consider that cattle don't burn any diesel fuel converting grass to meat.

They always push the idea that cattle farts contribute to excess greenhouse gas, helping to cause more warming, and yet, if the cattle are replaced on ranches with wild herbivores, like deer, hogs, and bison, they will not contribute to globull warming since they are wild creatures and not part of humanity's agriculture.

Morons.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Cripplecreek on November 15, 2017, 04:55:12 pm
Farts

350 million of them.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 15, 2017, 04:55:29 pm
Country would be full of people I hate.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Gefn on November 15, 2017, 04:59:24 pm
I was a vegetarian for a  brief period after college when I moved into my first apartment without roommates.

I couldn't afford meat, unless I went to my mom's house for supper.  After a couple months I was going crazy, I missed it.

I have friends who are Asian Indians and they make lovely vegetarian meals. But that's for dinner parties. Or pot luck. I like meat, milk and eggs. And I'm pretty much a pescataterian at the moment.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: GrouchoTex on November 15, 2017, 05:58:34 pm
They would lose their sense of humor.
I haven't met a vegan yet who had one.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Oceander on November 15, 2017, 08:32:16 pm
A lot of them, particularly babies, little children, and the elderly, would die of malnutrition. 
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: ABX on November 15, 2017, 08:52:15 pm
We would never hear the end of it. Everyone would constantly be telling everyone else they were vegans.

It could only be worse if they all were also gluten free, did crossfit, and drove Subarus. You could hear the sound of everyone telling everyone else about this all the way into space. The sound of the smug bragging would probably crack the earth.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: driftdiver on November 15, 2017, 08:55:15 pm
They always push the idea that cattle farts contribute to excess greenhouse gas, helping to cause more warming, and yet, if the cattle are replaced on ranches with wild herbivores, like deer, hogs, and bison, they will not contribute to globull warming since they are wild creatures and not part of humanity's agriculture.

Morons.

@Joe Wooten
Its the beef supply chain they are trying to shut down.  Their ultimate goal is to get the masses eating bugs for protein.    With meal worms you can raise enough protein in a 20 gallon aquarium for one person.   This will facilitate their push to drive everyone to live in large communes where are controllable.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: ABX on November 15, 2017, 08:56:52 pm
I was a vegetarian for a  brief period after college when I moved into my first apartment without roommates.

I couldn't afford meat, unless I went to my mom's house for supper.  After a couple months I was going crazy, I missed it.

I have friends who are Asian Indians and they make lovely vegetarian meals. But that's for dinner parties. Or pot luck. I like meat, milk and eggs. And I'm pretty much a pescataterian at the moment.

If someone is an honest vegetarian, I have no problem. There are legitmate reasons, affordability like you mentioned, religious reasons,or genuine medical reasons, those are all fine.

What turns people off are the smug, holier than thou, saving the planet and bragging to everyone vegetarians.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: driftdiver on November 15, 2017, 09:03:50 pm
If someone is an honest vegetarian, I have no problem. There are legitmate reasons, affordability like you mentioned, religious reasons,or genuine medical reasons, those are all fine.

What turns people off are the smug, holier than thou, saving the planet and bragging to everyone vegetarians.

@AbaraXas
That and the lack of good steaks.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: ABX on November 15, 2017, 09:06:28 pm
@AbaraXas
That and the lack of good steaks.

Lol. My wife is a vegetarian (who cheats daily), and we have a friend from Hondorus who just doesn't understand the concept. At one point when we were eating out, she popped up and said: " at some point you just need a big ole steak".
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: GtHawk on November 15, 2017, 11:28:34 pm
I was a vegetarian for a  brief period after college when I moved into my first apartment without roommates.

I couldn't afford meat, unless I went to my mom's house for supper.  After a couple months I was going crazy, I missed it.

I have friends who are Asian Indians and they make lovely vegetarian meals. But that's for dinner parties. Or pot luck. I like meat, milk and eggs. And I'm pretty much a pescataterian at the moment.
@Freya
Really Freya, is it necessary to bring religion into a discussion about food? :whistle: :tongue2:
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Gefn on November 16, 2017, 12:00:25 am
My stomach can't handle a lot of food I love anymore alas.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: RoosGirl on November 16, 2017, 12:12:23 am
You know how angry a lot of people are nowadays?  Spread that anger out to everyone and multiply it by 20.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Fishrrman on November 16, 2017, 02:22:55 am
Freya wrote:
"And I'm pretty much a pescataterian at the moment."

I copied that, pasted it into google, and all it came up with was three pictures.
That's right, in all the world, google found only 3 pics for "pescataterian".

Could you please explain what that means?
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: RoosGirl on November 16, 2017, 02:57:18 am
Freya wrote:
"And I'm pretty much a pescataterian at the moment."

I copied that, pasted it into google, and all it came up with was three pictures.
That's right, in all the world, google found only 3 pics for "pescataterian".

Could you please explain what that means?

Her main protein is fish.
Title: Re: What would happen if all Americans went vegan?
Post by: Gefn on November 16, 2017, 03:15:14 am
Her main protein is fish.

At present, my stomach can only tolerate fish as protein or egg beaters. I miss chicken and turkey. And cows. (Hamburger, steak) and of course, pork.

It's weird, because prior to my stomach issues I wasn't a fan of fish. I've learned to like salmon!

I hope my stomach gets better to tolerate hamburgers, meat loafs and pork. I was told maybe a year or two.