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Bill Clinton Dashes Into The Bunker When Pressed About Jeffrey Epstein 'Lolita Express' Flights
Matt Vespa
@mvespa1
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Posted: Jul 12, 2019 2:25 PM
Billionaire former hedge fund manager Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested and charged with sex crimes against minors. It was apparently a long time coming and many already knew the stories of his aberrant and perverse sexual proclivities. For years, Epstein was reportedly trafficking girls as young as 14 and then sexually abusing them. He has powerful friends. Former President Bill Clinton, President Donald Trump, and the British Royal Family all have ties to this man. Trump said he wasn’t a fan of Epstein, had a falling out with him years ago, and really hasn’t seen or spoken to him since. For Slick Willy, he’s flown on Epstein’s jet many times. Dubbed the “Lolita Express†there are six times the former president took a chartered flight on this plane. When asked about these trips by Jerry Dunleavy of The Washington Examiner, the former president ran into the bunker. It seems Hillary Clinton isn’t the only one who is good at stonewalling the press (via Washington Examiner):
Former President Bill Clinton tried to push back on reporting about trips he took with Jeffery Epstein where Secret Service were not listed on flight manifests, but failed to address why records show he took six separate trips on the "Lolita Express."
Clinton's press secretary Angel Ureña said Monday that Clinton had traveled four times in total with the alleged child sex trafficker, and "Supporters of the Foundation, and his Secret Service detail, traveled on every leg of every trip.â€
Ureña only responded to a Washington Examiner inquiry about the trips after publication. Ureña did not reply to repeated questions about the discrepancy between the number of trips Clinton, 72, said he took with Epstein and the flight logs. He stated that the Secret Service would say that"President Clinton has never declined protection."
A Secret Service spokesperson said only: "Former President Clinton has never declined Secret Service protection." The spokesperson did not answer detailed Washington Examiner questions about why the Epstein flight records indicated that Clinton was not accompanied by Secret Service on two 2002 trips — one in Asia and one in Africa.
Neither Ureña nor the Secret Service said that Secret Service agents were present during the two 2002 trips.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/12/bill-clinton-dashes-into-the-bunker-when-pressed-about-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express-flights-n2549989
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Bill Clinton Dashes Into The Bunker When Pressed About Jeffrey Epstein 'Lolita Express' Flights
Matt Vespa
@mvespa1
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Posted: Jul 12, 2019 2:25 PM
Billionaire former hedge fund manager Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested and charged with sex crimes against minors. It was apparently a long time coming and many already knew the stories of his aberrant and perverse sexual proclivities. For years, Epstein was reportedly trafficking girls as young as 14 and then sexually abusing them. He has powerful friends. Former President Bill Clinton, President Donald Trump, and the British Royal Family all have ties to this man. Trump said he wasn’t a fan of Epstein, had a falling out with him years ago, and really hasn’t seen or spoken to him since. For Slick Willy, he’s flown on Epstein’s jet many times. Dubbed the “Lolita Express†there are six times the former president took a chartered flight on this plane. When asked about these trips by Jerry Dunleavy of The Washington Examiner, the former president ran into the bunker. It seems Hillary Clinton isn’t the only one who is good at stonewalling the press (via Washington Examiner):
Former President Bill Clinton tried to push back on reporting about trips he took with Jeffery Epstein where Secret Service were not listed on flight manifests, but failed to address why records show he took six separate trips on the "Lolita Express."
Clinton's press secretary Angel Ureña said Monday that Clinton had traveled four times in total with the alleged child sex trafficker, and "Supporters of the Foundation, and his Secret Service detail, traveled on every leg of every trip.â€
Ureña only responded to a Washington Examiner inquiry about the trips after publication. Ureña did not reply to repeated questions about the discrepancy between the number of trips Clinton, 72, said he took with Epstein and the flight logs. He stated that the Secret Service would say that"President Clinton has never declined protection."
A Secret Service spokesperson said only: "Former President Clinton has never declined Secret Service protection." The spokesperson did not answer detailed Washington Examiner questions about why the Epstein flight records indicated that Clinton was not accompanied by Secret Service on two 2002 trips — one in Asia and one in Africa.
Neither Ureña nor the Secret Service said that Secret Service agents were present during the two 2002 trips.
more
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/12/bill-clinton-dashes-into-the-bunker-when-pressed-about-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express-flights-n2549989
@mystery-ak
I am no fan of Bubba,but I don't believe for a minute that he was allowed to travel to foreign countries without a SS escort. I even doubt he has the authority to tell the SS they can't come along.
I also have no doubt his personal SS escorts have to sign non-disclosure agreements about what they see and hear,and that they will lose their pensions and go to prison if they violate them
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@mystery-ak
I am no fan of Bubba,but I don't believe for a minute that he was allowed to travel to foreign countries without a SS escort. I even doubt he has the authority to tell the SS they can't come along.
I also have no doubt his personal SS escorts have to sign non-disclosure agreements about what they see and hear,and that they will lose their pensions and go to prison if they violate them
He was allowed and he did. More than once in fact.
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He was allowed and he did. More than once in fact.
@Bigun
According to whom?
I honestly believe that the way the law is written,he is not allowed to order the SS to not escort and protect him.
Don't get me wrong. I don't doubt for an instant that Bubba would do ANYTHING including sell our nuclear codes if he could,but he just doesn't have the authority to travel without his SS bodyguards. It ain't about Bubba. It's about national security.
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@Bigun
According to whom?
I honestly believe that the way the law is written,he is not allowed to order the SS to not escort and protect him.
Don't get me wrong. I don't doubt for an instant that Bubba would do ANYTHING including sell our nuclear codes if he could,but he just doesn't have the authority to travel without his SS bodyguards. It ain't about Bubba. It's about national security.
Who's going to stop him @sneakypete? Do you REALLY believe his security detail would do that?
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Who's going to stop him @sneakypete? Do you REALLY believe his security detail would do that?
@Bigun
Yes. They have no choice. They either stay close to him,or they lose their jobs and their pensions. No way in HELL is the SS going to allow him or any other president to fly outside the US without a SS escort. It would be against the law.
Just like it would be against the law to try to subpoena them to testify in court about anything they saw or heard the president do or say while escorting him.
Don't forget,the SS is there to protect the nation,not the individual.
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@Bigun
Yes. They have no choice. They either stay close to him,or they lose their jobs and their pensions. No way in HELL is the SS going to allow him or any other president to fly outside the US without a SS escort. It would be against the law.
Just like it would be against the law to try to subpoena them to testify in court about anything they saw or heard the president do or say while escorting him.
Don't forget,the SS is there to protect the nation,not the individual.
Not going to argue with you @sneakypete but I don't put anything off-limits to a Clinton.
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@mystery-ak
I am no fan of Bubba,but I don't believe for a minute that he was allowed to travel to foreign countries without a SS escort. I even doubt he has the authority to tell the SS they can't come along.
I also have no doubt his personal SS escorts have to sign non-disclosure agreements about what they see and hear,and that they will lose their pensions and go to prison if they violate them
Apparently ex-presidents and other ex-dignitaries can do so. It is rare and not encouraged, but doable.
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Apparently ex-presidents and other ex-dignitaries can do so. It is rare and not encouraged, but doable.
@Sanguine
You betcha. Ex-Presidents and dignitaries don't carry around the nuclear launch code.
I have no doubt that Bubba has done that and worse since leaving office,but I find it impossible to believe he did it while in the WH,like some people suggest.
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@Sanguine
You betcha. Ex-Presidents and dignitaries don't carry around the nuclear launch code.
I have no doubt that Bubba has done that and worse since leaving office,but I find it impossible to believe he did it while in the WH,like some people suggest.
Weren't these trips in 2002?
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@mystery-ak
I am no fan of Bubba,but I don't believe for a minute that he was allowed to travel to foreign countries without a SS escort. I even doubt he has the authority to tell the SS they can't come along.
I also have no doubt his personal SS escorts have to sign non-disclosure agreements about what they see and hear,and that they will lose their pensions and go to prison if they violate them
The US Virgin Islands are as "foreign" as Puerto Rico.
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Weren't these trips in 2002?
@Sanguine
I lost track.
Some people seem to be claiming he made the trips while still in office. Even if he made them after leaving office,he still had SS bodyguards and escorts.
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The US Virgin Islands are as "foreign" as Puerto Rico.
@Cyber Liberty
They are NOT a part of America.
Neither is PR,AFATG.
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@Cyber Liberty
They are NOT a part of America.
Neither is PR,AFATG.
They are not states, but they are US territories -- used to be called "US possessions," but I guess someone decided that term is racist or something.
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pete wrote:
"I honestly believe that the way the law is written,he is not allowed to order the SS to not escort and protect him."
No, for an EX-president, I don't believe that SS protection is mandatory.
Of course, it is "there to be used" if he wants it.
Didn't Richard Nixon later in his retirement release his SS detail and use his own "private security" instead?
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They are not states, but they are US territories -- used to be called "US possessions," but I guess someone decided that term is racist or something.
@Applewood
I know,but that is about the extent of what I know about them. I STRONGLY suspect the same rules for Presidential travel there would apply that would apply to foreign countries.
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pete wrote:
"I honestly believe that the way the law is written,he is not allowed to order the SS to not escort and protect him."
No, for an EX-president, I don't believe that SS protection is mandatory.
Of course, it is "there to be used" if he wants it.
Didn't Richard Nixon later in his retirement release his SS detail and use his own "private security" instead?
@Fishrrman
I don't know. I do know in recent years that ex-presidents no longer have SS protection unless threats have been made,but can't remember how long they do get the protection before it expires under normal circumstances.
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@sneakypete
Maybe this will help?
Former presidents were entitled from 1965 to 1996 to lifetime Secret Service protection, for themselves, spouses, and children under 16. A 1994 statute, (Pub.L. 103–329), limited post-presidential protection to ten years for presidents inaugurated after January 1, 1997.[7] Under this statute, Bill Clinton would still be entitled to lifetime protection, and all subsequent presidents would have been entitled to ten years' protection.[8] On January 10, 2013, President Barack Obama signed the Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012, reinstating lifetime Secret Service protection for his predecessor George W. Bush, himself, and all subsequent presidents.[9]
Richard Nixon relinquished his Secret Service protection in 1985, the only president to do so.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_Presidents_Act
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@sneakypete
Maybe this will help?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_Presidents_Act
So it didn't include Bubba or Bubbette? Interesting.
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So it didn't include Bubba or Bubbette? Interesting.
Oh, no, I'm sure they want the taxpayers to pay instead of them paying themselves.
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Oh, no, I'm sure they want the taxpayers to pay instead of them paying themselves.
Meh. The Bubbs developed a really fine reputation with the Members of the Secret Service. I'd hire private ones if I were them.
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Slick Willie Is in his Saddam spider hole.
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So it didn't include Bubba or Bubbette? Interesting.
@Cyber Liberty
Thanks! I vaguely remembered the SS expiration after a certain time for new Presidents,but don't remember when it took effect,and had no idea Obomber had ended it. Figures that he and Mooch would want some white servants.