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Washington Post
George F. Will
June 22, 2018
Amid the carnage of Republican misrule in Washington, there is this glimmer of good news: The family-shredding policy along the southern border, the most telegenic recent example of misrule, clarified something. Occurring less than 140 days before elections that can reshape Congress, the policy has given independents and temperate Republicans — these are probably expanding and contracting cohorts, respectively — fresh if redundant evidence for the principle by which they should vote.
The principle: The congressional Republican caucuses must be substantially reduced. So substantially that their remnants, reduced to minorities, will be stripped of the Constitution’s Article I powers that they have been too invertebrate to use against the current wielder of Article II powers. They will then have leisure time to wonder why they worked so hard to achieve membership in a legislature whose unexercised muscles have atrophied because of people like them.
More... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/vote-against-the-gop-this-november/2018/06/22/a6378306-7575-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.085a96a6bb9f (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/vote-against-the-gop-this-november/2018/06/22/a6378306-7575-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.085a96a6bb9f)
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George should stick to writing about things he knows a little bit about. Baseball for instance.
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George should stick to writing about things he knows a little bit about. Baseball for instance.
Did you catch his convoluted reasoning or did your eyes cross about half way down the page?
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George must be trying to fill the intellectual void Charles Krauthammers passing left. He failed.
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This stupid azzhole spent most of his 1979 and 1980 penning pieces telling people to not vote for Reagan and instead vote for Howard Baker and then George Bush. He can get bent.
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Did you catch his convoluted reasoning or did your eyes cross about half way down the page?
@endicom
To be perfectly honest with you I must confess to having gotten no further than the title and the byline. Stopped right there.
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This stupid azzhole spent most of his 1979 and 1980 penning pieces telling people to not vote for Reagan and instead vote for Howard Baker and then George Bush. He can get bent.
Dad always told me never to trust anyone wearing a bow-tie.
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Did you catch his convoluted reasoning or did your eyes cross about half way down the page?
I didn't get that far.
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Dad always told me never to trust anyone wearing a bow-tie.
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Don't get me started.
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@mystery-ak
Will's writing is valid. One should download it into a Word document and read it with a cup of coffee/pastry - stay with the writing. What he says needs to happen may happen - it is the way I see voting may happen in Nov. based on circumstances now.
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Will's writing is valid. One should download it into a Word document and read it with a cup of coffee/pastry - stay with the writing.
The only way this piece makes any sense is to print it out, download it into the toilet and flush. Then shoot up heroin and take a vodka chaser.
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@Victoria33
From the essay:
The Republican-controlled Congress, which waited for Trump to undo by unilateral decree the border folly they could have prevented by actually legislating, is an advertisement for the unimportance of Republican control . . .
. . . In today’s GOP, which is the president’s plaything, he is the mainstream. So, to vote against his party’s cowering congressional caucuses is to affirm the nation’s honor while quarantining him. A Democratic-controlled Congress would be a basket of deplorables, but there would be enough Republicans to gum up the Senate’s machinery, keeping the institution as peripheral as it has been under their control and asphyxiating mischief from a Democratic House. And to those who say, “But the judges, the judges!†the answer is: Article III institutions are not more important than those of Articles I and II combined.
(Emphasis added.)
Once upon a time I rubbed my eyes and shuddered over the number of people believing a president was supreme and ignoring that the legislature was a) afforded supremacy even over the executive and b) thus addressed first in the Constitution. Today I shudder over the number of legislators who have believed likewise, behaved likewise, and refused to stand their ground and do their jobs---whether making law or (much better yet!) repealing law---for only too many years regardless of which miscreant happens to occupy the White House.
Will's writing is valid. One should download it into a Word document and read it with a cup of coffee/pastry - stay with the writing.
All that's required to read it is to bear the ability you yourself have inabundance---an ability to read English. ;)
What he says needs to happen may happen - it is the way I see voting may happen in Nov. based on circumstances now.
It is very possible.
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There is no real need for the likes of Will, bow tie nd tortoise shell specs.
Better listen to Victor Davis Hanson, Newt, X Maryland Gov. Bob Ehrlich, Bill O"Reilly. Pat Buchanan, etc
In other words, folks making honest efforts to understand and explain the reality, f the Trump phenom, for better or worse.
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From the essay:
The Republican-controlled Congress, which waited for Trump to undo by unilateral decree the border folly they could have prevented by actually legislating, is an advertisement for the unimportance of Republican control . . .
That and the previous 8 years of their handing Obama his agenda and funding it while refusing to do as they promised 'root and branch' along with constant assaults upon the Conservative base they demonstrably held in utter contempt - is more than just an advertisement; it is an in-depth video infomercial detailing precisely the reason why the Republican party is not only unimportant, but a cancer on liberty and principles.
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Behind a paywall... what a sham(e).
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Behind a paywall... what a sham(e).
https://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/06/george_will_this_november_cast_your_vote_against_t.html (https://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/06/george_will_this_november_cast_your_vote_against_t.html)
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Did you catch his convoluted reasoning or did your eyes cross about half way down the page?
Yeah. Basically indistinguishable from INVAR's. *****rollingeyes*****
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@Victoria33
From the essay:
The Republican-controlled Congress, which waited for Trump to undo by unilateral decree the border folly they could have prevented by actually legislating, is an advertisement for the unimportance of Republican control . . .
. . . In today’s GOP, which is the president’s plaything, he is the mainstream. So, to vote against his party’s cowering congressional caucuses is to affirm the nation’s honor while quarantining him. A Democratic-controlled Congress would be a basket of deplorables, but there would be enough Republicans to gum up the Senate’s machinery, keeping the institution as peripheral as it has been under their control and asphyxiating mischief from a Democratic House. And to those who say, “But the judges, the judges!†the answer is: Article III institutions are not more important than those of Articles I and II combined.
(Emphasis added.)
Once upon a time I rubbed my eyes and shuddered over the number of people believing a president was supreme and ignoring that the legislature was a) afforded supremacy even over the executive and b) thus addressed first in the Constitution. Today I shudder over the number of legislators who have believed likewise, behaved likewise, and refused to stand their ground and do their jobs---whether making law or (much better yet!) repealing law---for only too many years regardless of which miscreant happens to occupy the White House.
All that's required to read it is to bear the ability you yourself have inabundance---an ability to read English. ;)
It is very possible.
@EasyAce
Thanks Easy, you can read and understand, too.
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Yeah. Basically indistinguishable from INVAR's. *****rollingeyes*****
Now now @Jazzhead ...don’t be a gutless coward. Have the stones to ping @INVAR when you cast aspersions.
Actually never mind...you’ve shown yourself to be nothing but several times.
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https://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/06/george_will_this_november_cast_your_vote_against_t.html (https://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/06/george_will_this_november_cast_your_vote_against_t.html)
A garbage, nonsense article. He says nothing about the consequences of handing the house to the democrats until the second to last article, and basically brushes them off as "mischief".
Makes me understand the hatred towards the nt's, if they're willing to hand the country to the democrats to stop trump.
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Now now @Jazzhead ...don’t be a gutless coward. Have the stones to ping @INVAR when you cast aspersions.
Actually never mind...you’ve shown yourself to be nothing but several times.
I'd rather he not.
Reading his Communist claptrap passed off as 'Conservatism' just gets my blood pressure up.
Makes me understand the hatred towards the nt's, if they're willing to hand the country to the democrats to stop trump.
Technically, logically and fundamentally - judging the fruits of the Republican party, it makes no difference which one of the Statist parties run the show.
The Republicans passed more of Obama's agenda than the Democrats did, and FUNDED it with aplomb to boot.
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Makes me understand the hatred towards the nt's, if they're willing to hand the country to the democrats to stop trump.
We could have Hillary and a Dem congress if people like Will had their way.
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Laura Ingraham: George Will is ‘sad and petty’ for urging votes against GOP
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/393783-laura-ingraham-george-will-is-sad-and-petty-for-urging-votes-against-gop (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/393783-laura-ingraham-george-will-is-sad-and-petty-for-urging-votes-against-gop)
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Laura Ingraham: George Will is ‘sad and petty’ for urging votes against GOP
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/393783-laura-ingraham-george-will-is-sad-and-petty-for-urging-votes-against-gop (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/393783-laura-ingraham-george-will-is-sad-and-petty-for-urging-votes-against-gop)
I'll side with Ingraham.
What the hell does George Will want? The status quo ante where nothing good ever happens? Because that's his comfort zone?
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There is no real need for the likes of Will, bow tie nd tortoise shell specs.
Better listen to Victor Davis Hanson, Newt, X Maryland Gov. Bob Ehrlich, Bill O"Reilly. Pat Buchanan, etc
In other words, folks making honest efforts to understand and explain the reality, f the Trump phenom, for better or worse.
If Yeb had won Will would be lecturing the congress about the president being the leader of the party who's agenda was mandated by the results of the last election.
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I'll side with Ingraham.
What the hell does George Will want? The status quo ante where nothing good ever happens? Because that's his comfort zone?
Impeachment, apparently.
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@mystery-ak
Will's writing is valid. One should download it into a Word document and read it with a cup of coffee/pastry - stay with the writing. What he says needs to happen may happen - it is the way I see voting may happen in Nov. based on circumstances now.
It makes sense to somebody who voted for Hillary.
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George Will needs a Gore Vidal to make him whole.
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George Will needs a Gore Vidal to make him whole.
Please, there's still such a thing as the Eighth Amendment!
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The only way this piece makes any sense is to print it out, download it into the toilet and flush. Then shoot up heroin and take a vodka chaser.
I wish I'd written that.
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I wish I'd written that.
@Frank Cannon has a unique type of wit.
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@Frank Cannon has a unique type of wit.
Some say it is a type of nit. Not me mind you. But some.
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OMFG George, how stupid do you think I am? Nothing is getting done in DC for one and only one reason - everytime something comes to the Senate, just enough RINO GOP senators peel off to get it defeated, with Mitch McConnell's tacits approval.
Tell McConnell et al to stop playing kabuki, an the problem goes away.
Go sell that turd to another pig farmer.
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OMFG George, how stupid do you think I am? Nothing is getting done in DC for one and only one reason - everytime something comes to the Senate, just enough RINO GOP senators peel off to get it defeated, with Mitch McConnell's tacits approval.
Tell McConnell et al to stop playing kabuki, an the problem goes away.
Go sell that turd to another pig farmer.
Most Conservatives have not figured out yet that Democrats have taken over the Republican Party wholesale. So either they accept Big Government Liberal Statism as Conservative, or they go put their efforts into something else to try and preserve what remains of liberty.
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Most Conservatives have not figured out yet that Democrats have taken over the Republican Party wholesale. So either they accept Big Government Liberal Statism as Conservative, or they go put their efforts into something else to try and preserve what remains of liberty.
And the irony is, George is fast ideological buds with all those playing the shell game and he's in deep denial, trying to reflexively blame Trump when Congress is the one that passes the laws. Which makes him part of the swampy cronyism, not the outsider critic he likes to prop himself up as.
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Most Conservatives have not figured out yet that Democrats have taken over the Republican Party wholesale. So either they accept Big Government Liberal Statism as Conservative, or they go put their efforts into something else to try and preserve what remains of liberty.
I hate to say it but nobody can say they weren't warned as far back as 2008 . . .
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Actually, I have been voting against the GOP since Bush 1 when it became apparent to me they were a "conservative" party in name only.
As always, I vote for the candidate that reflects my view of what a Conservative is or I don't vote for that officeholder I will not vote for the lesser of two evils... :shrug:
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After what McConnell and the GOP leadership has done to grassroots Conservatism and the rules changes in the last two elections, notwithstanding their abysmal record of handing the Democrats victory after victory and funding their agenda - I will no longer vote for anyone in the Republican party.
I do not care if it is a clone of Reagan himself running.
It is past time to put efforts into something not wholly corrupted, complicit with evil and statist, for something outside the poisonous cesspool of Mordor on the Potomac.
If elections themselves are not as rigged and corrupted as the rest of the machine running government and consequential events do not overtake life as we knew it.
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The Wall will only get funded with passage in the Senate of a bill for the President to sign. We should have enough votes now. Pity.
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Pity.
Indeed. A Wall/Dreamers compromise should have been passed long ago. The wall should be well on its way to being built. The crime of this GOP Congress has been its inability to compromise - with itself.
The stars align only briefly. A GOP Congress and a GOP President is a transient occurence that we will be kicking ourselves for years that we did not take advantage of.
**nononono*
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The stars align only briefly. A GOP Congress and a GOP President is a transient occurrence [sic] that we will be kicking ourselves for years that we did not take advantage of.
@Jazzhead
It's not as though Republicans haven't been there before, you know. And when they weren't anymore, that time, it wasn't long before they began wailing, oh, if only we could have another Republican Congress and Republican White House to get it right this time . . .
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It makes sense to somebody who voted for Hillary.
exactly. Or stated the intent to do so.
There exists for me, a certain type of "conservative." They like some of the aspects of "conservatism," but erhaps most they like to be accepted by family, associates, which label themselves "conservatives."
But woe to the awful outsider, never a real insiderof that group.
Goldwater, Reagan, Trump. Both broke into the GHW Bush insider game (Perot, Buchanan tried to), and they can't ever, ever even grasp why it happened.
I'll call them "Affinity Conservatives;" e.g. they like being in this group.
Before admitting that they were wrong, they label the outsider's supporters wrong.
It continues with the likes of George Will was Never elected to anything.
Spend more time with real conservative thinkers like Victor Davis Hanson. Newt Gingrich. Mark Levin, Pat Buchanan.
These and others know that Trump did NOT create the conditions which led to his election.
They make honest intellectual attempts to understand explain it.
Besides calling Trump's supporters too white, too uneducated, Nazis and worse.
Trump has governed more conservatively than almst anybody expected. More than anyone since Reagan. Real honest conservatives ught to be able to see it, even if their pride prevents them from saying so.
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George Will...?
He's still alive...?
Who knew?
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George Will...?
He's still alive...?
Who knew?
Makes me happy that his Orioles suck so much this year.
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And to those who say, “But the judges, the judges!†the answer is: Article III institutions are not more important than those of Articles I and II combined.
This is where George misses the mark. Today's progressive judges behave like dictators. No matter how flawed the GOP candidate, there aren't enough reasons to enable a judicial tyranny by voting Democrat.
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This is where George misses the mark. Today's progressive judges behave like dictators.
I think what he was trying to say was, there's a reason why the judiciary falls under the third article of the Constitution, even as the legislative branch is the first article of the Constitution and the executive the second.
And while I don't doubt for one moment that there are judges who do act as you say, I often wonder along parallel lines whether "judicial tyranny" is often deployed not because of actual "judicial tyranny" but, rather, because a particular court handed down a ruling that aligns to the Constitution but contravenes what the mob wishes. (I'm sure I don't need to remind you that Republicans are as capable of nominating and approving actual judicial tyrants as are Democrats.)
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The House, today, voted down their other immigration bill. That is both bills voted down. In both cases, numerous Republicans didn't vote for it. They killed their own bills.
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The House, today, voted down their other immigration bill. That is both bills voted down. In both cases, numerous Republicans didn't vote for it. They killed their own bills.
No dear! They killed their lame duck RINO, Chamber of Commerce lacky, speaker's bill and they get a great big HALALUJAH from me for the effort!