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Title: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: rangerrebew on April 10, 2020, 06:30:02 pm
 

Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State

April 9, 2020

 

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif. is losing his Capitol Hill allies left and right — and critics say he’s very mad about it.

Schiff’s comrades are being cleared out as part of President Donald Trump’s effort to drain the swamp –– and the latest Deep State official ousted was Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson.

Atkinson gained notoriety for his key role in initiating Trump’s impeachment proceedings.

https://thehornnews.com/adam-schiff-panics-as-trump-wipes-out-deep-state/
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 10, 2020, 06:35:48 pm
I hope he fires a lot more people he nominated for their positions.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 10, 2020, 06:39:04 pm
I hope he fires a lot more people he nominated for their positions.

Only if you promise not to to say, "I thought he hires only the best!"   I happen to agree he's made some poor hires, like Sessions.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 10, 2020, 06:56:57 pm
Only if you promise not to to say, "I thought he hires only the best!"   I happen to agree he's made some poor hires, like Sessions.
My point was General Michael Atkinson was nominated by President Trump and confirmed by a GOP Senate.  There is little reason to think his replacement will not be disloyal if placed in the kind of positions that the President placed Sessions or Atkinson.

“Do not worry, I will be fine for telling the truth.” - Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 10, 2020, 07:20:14 pm
My point was General Michael Atkinson was nominated by President Trump and confirmed by a GOP Senate.  There is little reason to think his replacement will not be disloyal if placed in the kind of positions that the President placed Sessions or Atkinson.

“Do not worry, I will be fine for telling the truth.” - Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman

It's true that Atkinson was hired by Trump and confirmed by the Senate, but mistakes are still made  David Souter was nominated by a Republican, too. 

The Vindeman twins needed to be removed from the White House (brother Yevgeny leaked excerpts from Bolton's book to the Press to try and force the Republicans to allow witnesses in the Impeachment trial), so I'm unsure of what kind of example you are making here.   
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 10, 2020, 07:44:14 pm
The Vindeman twins needed to be removed from the White House (brother Yevgeny leaked excerpts from Bolton's book to the Press to try and force the Republicans to allow witnesses in the Impeachment trial), so I'm unsure of what kind of example you are making here.

Most Americans, given a choice between loyalty and sworn truthful testimony, will choose sworn truthful testimony even when faced with replacement.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 10, 2020, 07:46:28 pm
Most Americans, given a choice between loyalty and sworn truthful testimony, will choose sworn truthful testimony even when faced with replacement.

That's assuming Vindeman's "testimony" was as truthful as it was sworn.  I...disagree.  It may have been "truthy," but it cast zero light when it came to what happened. 
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: libertybele on April 10, 2020, 07:59:13 pm
Only if you promise not to to say, "I thought he hires only the best!"   I happen to agree he's made some poor hires, like Sessions.

 :amen:

Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Mesaclone on April 10, 2020, 09:30:24 pm
Most Americans, given a choice between loyalty and sworn truthful testimony, will choose sworn truthful testimony even when faced with replacement.

The only loyalty asked of people like Vindman WAS to tell the truth...and not to betray bits of "selective" intelligence to paint a bogus picture of an entirely legitimate phone call with the Ukrainian President. Virtually every other "test of loyalty" within the administration involved a simple demand to tell the WHOLE truth, not some distorted Adam Schiffian concoction that is half-truth mixed with innuendo and subterfuge.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 10, 2020, 09:50:30 pm
The only loyalty asked of people like Vindman WAS to tell the truth...and not to betray bits of "selective" intelligence to paint a bogus picture of an entirely legitimate phone call with the Ukrainian President. Virtually every other "test of loyalty" within the administration involved a simple demand to tell the WHOLE truth, not some distorted Adam Schiffian concoction that is half-truth mixed with innuendo and subterfuge.

goopo
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 10, 2020, 10:00:20 pm
The only loyalty asked of people like Vindman WAS to tell the truth...and not to betray bits of "selective" intelligence to paint a bogus picture of an entirely legitimate phone call with the Ukrainian President. Virtually every other "test of loyalty" within the administration involved a simple demand to tell the WHOLE truth, not some distorted Adam Schiffian concoction that is half-truth mixed with innuendo and subterfuge.
We watched a different impeachment @Mesaclone .  Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was a protagonist in the one I watched.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: bilo on April 10, 2020, 10:04:47 pm
The only loyalty asked of people like Vindman WAS to tell the truth...and not to betray bits of "selective" intelligence to paint a bogus picture of an entirely legitimate phone call with the Ukrainian President. Virtually every other "test of loyalty" within the administration involved a simple demand to tell the WHOLE truth, not some distorted Adam Schiffian concoction that is half-truth mixed with innuendo and subterfuge.

 :amen:
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 10, 2020, 10:08:38 pm
We watched a different impeachment @Mesaclone .  Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was a protagonist in the one I watched.

These things are always viewed by our own eyes, with our own paradigms.  I didn't see the same thing you did, but we both watched it.  This is normal.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: truth_seeker on April 10, 2020, 10:25:17 pm
One has to wonder about Vindman, in light of Trump fgiving Ukraine the weapons, that Obama did not give them.

And in light of Ukraine offering Vindman high office.

Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 10, 2020, 10:43:57 pm
One has to wonder about Vindman, in light of Trump fgiving Ukraine the weapons, that Obama did not give them.

And in light of Ukraine offering Vindman high office.

Don't forget his brother, Yevgeny, who worked in the White House too.  He leaked the contents of Bolton's book, in order to pressure Republicans in the Senate to agree to witnesses in the Impeachment trial.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Mesaclone on April 10, 2020, 11:00:33 pm
We watched a different impeachment @Mesaclone .  Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was a protagonist in the one I watched.

Wow. Just plain, Wow. The man is a demonstrable liar...but worse to any prior service military officer...he's a political hack. The worst kind of officer in the service, universally loathed for an absence of integrity and honor.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/19/alexander-vindman-admits-making-up-parts-of-trump-call-summary/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/19/alexander-vindman-admits-making-up-parts-of-trump-call-summary/)
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 10, 2020, 11:19:37 pm
Wow. Just plain, Wow. The man is a demonstrable liar...but worse to any prior service military officer...he's a political hack. The worst kind of officer in the service, universally loathed for an absence of integrity and honor.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/19/alexander-vindman-admits-making-up-parts-of-trump-call-summary/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/19/alexander-vindman-admits-making-up-parts-of-trump-call-summary/)

I think less of you for that, and I don't click breitbart.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 10, 2020, 11:23:52 pm
I think less of you for that, and I don't click breitbart.

That's too bad for you, because @Mesaclone is a damned sharp cookie.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Mesaclone on April 10, 2020, 11:55:10 pm
I think less of you for that, and I don't click breitbart.

Not sure what the "what" is that you're thinking less of me over...but OK. As for Breitbart...or any other source...its not "who" is providing information, but rather, the information itself that is relevant. If Hitler says the earth orbits the sun, is it somehow made false? If CNN says Joe Biden was confused, is he actually coherent? Attacking a source means nothing when the information given is true on its face.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Mesaclone on April 10, 2020, 11:56:54 pm
That's too bad for you, because @Mesaclone is a damned sharp cookie.

You're too kind!
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: mortarman on April 11, 2020, 12:04:24 am
 :threadjack:

Getting back to the original intent of the thread as I have read it to be.

Pencil-Neck Skillethead should be panicking. President Trump is going after his moles.

 :pop41:
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 11, 2020, 12:12:45 am
:threadjack:

Getting back to the original intent of the thread as I have read it to be.

Pencil-Neck Skillethead should be panicking. President Trump is going after his moles.

 :pop41:

That's exactly what's going on, and Schitt knows it.  I love it when a plan comes together.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: truth_seeker on April 11, 2020, 12:47:22 am
I think less of you for that, and I don't click breitbart.

Tell us about your own career, in millitary service & ;leadership, in civilian leadership?

People with military service see Vindman a lot closer to Benedict Arnold, than too Audey Murphy.
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: MajorClay on April 12, 2020, 03:18:33 am
Adam, who is Ed Buck?
Title: Re: Adam Schiff panics as Trump wipes out Deep State
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 12, 2020, 01:53:12 pm
Adam, who is Ed Buck?

LOL!  :happyhappy: