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Charlie Rangel Accuses You and Me of Being Descendants of Slave Owners
Posted on March 20, 2014 by Gary DeMar Filed under 1st Amendment, Congress, Constitution, Economics, Liberal Bullying, Low Information Voters, Politics
You know when a person is losing the debate when he goes postal on you. I’ve seen it happen many times. When an argument can’t be made based on the facts, the personal attacks begin.
It’s the adult version of school-yard bullying.
“Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY) in an appearance on NY1′s ‘Inside City Hall,’ called Tea Party members ‘mean, racist people’ who are descendants of slave owners in the South and still love their Confederate flag...”
It’s true, I live in the South. But I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I can assure you that no one in my family has ever owned any slaves for the simple fact that my grandparents were born in Italy. I am one-hundred percent Italian (DeMario).
My grandparents immigrated to the United States in the early part of the 20th century so they didn’t have anything to do with slavery.
I’m a proud supporter of the Tea Party. My support doesn’t have a thing to do with race.
Most of the people who work for and with me are not from the South, and yet all of us support the fundamental principles of the Tea Party. He may want to check out the numerous Tea Party organizations in New York and every other state in the union. Are we to suppose that they're all descendants of slave owners?
And what about the Confederate flag charge by Rangel? The last time I checked, the flag that's being flown by the Tea Party is the Gadsden Flag: "Dont Tread on Me."
Rangel has used the race card to enrich himself while blacks generally have been turned into servants to a single political party. While government programs alone can’t be blamed for all the ills that are found in the black community, they certainly have contributed to it.
Black unemployment is at an all-time high, abortion rates among blacks is over 50 percent. “Data from the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene reveals that black women had more abortions than live births in 2012.” Then there’s gang violence and a high dropout rate from high school. Is the Tea Party to blame for all of this?
These grinding statistics are the result of a long history of government interference in the lives of the poor. The Great Society Program of the 1960s was the major factor in crippling black families.
If Charlie Rangel wants to talk about slavery, he’s been one of the biggest contributors to it. Some black politicians have noticed how the welfare state, of which Rangel has been one of its biggest contributors, has affected black families.
E.W. Jackson, who is black and was the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor in 2013 in Virginia, “said slavery did not destroy black families, but government welfare programs launched in the 1960s caused them to deteriorate.”
Jackson said:
“I am a direct descendent of slaves. My grandfather was born . . . to a father and a mother who had been slaves. And by the way, their family was more intact than the black family is today.”
“I’m telling you that slavery did not destroy the black family, even though it certainly was an attack on the black family. It made it difficult.”
What was the Democrat response? They circulated a video of Jackson’s speech “comparing things to slavery is insulting,” calling it “extreme rhetoric.”
So a black Republican can’t reference slavery but a liberal Democrat can.
God and governmentThe business model for Godfather Politics is built on economic, political, and moral principles that pre-date the Tea Party. I outlined those principles in a series of books I wrote in the 1980s titled God and Government. Those principles were developed to move people out of slavery to freedom.
Charlie Rangel has been one of the biggest promoters of maintaining a slave mentality among Blacks. Now he’s trying to cover his policy failures by blaming the Tea Party.
Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/14829/charlie-rangel-accuses-descendant-slave-owners/#l7qAE3i4mpllEQOq.99
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My ancesters were too poor to own slaves, Charlie. Had no effect on my interest in joining the Tea Party cause.
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My ancestors were Republicans, and northern abolitionists.
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My ancestors could not own slaves. They were too busy being raped and pillaged by Cossacks.
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Pay your taxes Charlie - like we who you foist them on do - and shut the hell up!
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My ancestors weren't slave owners either; they were, on the one hand, Northerners, and on the other Missourans and Iowans who repudiated slavery and fought for the North.
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Does he know whether his ancestors were, or weren't, slave owners? There were 10s of thousands of black slave owners and the way he treats blacks being a master of slaves may be in his blood. :thud:
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My ancestors weren't slave owners either; they were, on the one hand, Northerners, and on the other Missourans and Iowans who repudiated slavery and fought for the North.
My family is all from the north. In fact, I have a great, great, great uncle who is buried at Andersonville. :patriot:
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Being from Kentucky - I have ancestors who fought on the side of the Confederacy AND those who fought on the Union side. Sometimes it was brother against brother. Regardless, all of them were too poor to own slaves. When do we get to get past the slavery issue? Most all of us can go back to some point in history when our ancestors were enslaved by someone, unless we're from a royal family. Does this define who we are now?
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Some of my ancestors were slaves. So shut it, Rangel.
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Rangel is a complete idiot.
If you want to find 'slave owners', then just go to India, China, any Muslim country, or any Black ruled country in Africa. 'Slavery' is still alive and well outside America. These American Black retards are focused on something that happened in America until the 1860s when they should be focused on slavery that is ongoing even today.
But, then again, nobody in all of history has ever accused Black people of being overly intelligent.
In any other country in the world, Rangel would be told to get the hell out. Go somewhere else if you don't like America. We don't care.
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Being from Kentucky - I have ancestors who fought on the side of the Confederacy AND those who fought on the Union side. Sometimes it was brother against brother. Regardless, all of them were too poor to own slaves. When do we get to get past the slavery issue? Most all of us can go back to some point in history when our ancestors were enslaved by someone, unless we're from a royal family. Does this define who we are now?
My ancestors were Vikings.
We didn't enslave people. We just raped and pillaged, and threw them into bogs. :smokin:
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some Greek philosopher is supposed to have said 2000 years that their was nobody of any social statute who did not have slaves as ancestors ,even if not its still true ....So stfu Rangle you race bating poverty pimp
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Many of my ancestors came over from Ireland and Scotland in the 1800's due to the poor conditions they were living under there. My English ancestors came over earlier and always lived in the north. Mine were mostly serfs certainly not the ruling class. I am also distantly related to Abe Lincoln through his real mothers side of the family. Charles Rangel is and always has been an idiot. The slave card just doesn't make me feel guilty nor will it ever since no one I know has any. I look at what some blacks have brought on themselves in the last few decades and feel mostly contempt for the the like of them and high admiration for those blacks who go about their lives building strong families and working and not blaming anyone for the long gone past just working the American dream that has been offered to them just as it was for us and our ancestors.
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My great-great-grandfather (give or take a "great") was a rebel sniper and and I don't feel guilty about slavery. He's the one I referenced who was too poor to have owned slaves anyway.
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My great-great-grandfather (give or take a "great") was a rebel sniper and and I don't feel guilty about slavery. He's the one I referenced who was too poor to have owned slaves anyway.
There's no reason why you should feel guilty in the least. I'm sure if we dig back far enough in Rangel's ancestry we'll find that he's related to one of the tribes in Africa that used to capture other Africans to sell them into slavery.
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My ancestors were Vikings.
We didn't enslave people. We just raped and pillaged, and threw them into bogs. :smokin:
The Vikings had a thriving slave culture. It were no biggie - you'd be a slave for 20 years or so, then get your freedom. Sort of like being a villein, but with an expiration date.
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Charlie is descended from a Grease Ball.
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My ancesters were too poor to own slaves, Charlie. Had no effect on my interest in joining the Tea Party cause.
A vast majority of Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. They were not fighting to preserve or protect slavery in the first place. They took up arms to fight the oppressive actions of the federal government against the South. Plain and simple.
Like then, there is War of Northern Aggression that is being conducted against the South.
Maybe this time it will have the right outcome.
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The Vikings had a thriving slave culture. It were no biggie - you'd be a slave for 20 years or so, then get your freedom. Sort of like being a villein, but with an expiration date.
or like an indentured servant.
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Everyone is a descendent of slave owners at some point in their lineage, even Rangel.
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The Vikings had a thriving slave culture. It were no biggie - you'd be a slave for 20 years or so, then get your freedom. Sort of like being a villein, but with an expiration date.
I was joking.
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I was joking.
Your ancestors owe mine .... :smokin:
Though technically, we are probably related, so no big deal.
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My ancestors come from a long line of farmers..
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My ancestors come from a long line of farmers..
Rise up, strike off your chains, and demand your rights!!!!!
Being a slave to the land and the weather is intolerable.
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LOL! Charlie....you DON'T want to play "Descendants".....trust me on that. :laugh:
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Charlie really needs to STFU and be thankful that he's not sitting in a federal prison cell.
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or like an indentured servant.
The fact is the first "slaves" were indentured servants until a black man bought slaves from Africa; the first slave owner was a black man. The indentured servants gained their freedom after a number of years, the slaves didn't.
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The fact is the first "slaves" were indentured servants until a black man bought slaves from Africa; the first slave owner was a black man. The indentured servants gained their freedom after a number of years, the slaves didn't.
Doesn't surprise anybody that the very first slave owner was a black man.
The more charming....the more passengers....the more $$$.
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Rise up, strike off your chains, and demand your rights!!!!!
Being a slave to the land and the weather is intolerable.
The irony is the that some of my ancestors from your country where either knights or lords...
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Your ancestors owe mine .... :smokin:
Though technically, we are probably related, so no big deal.
Hey.............my ancestors settled and named Russia. (It's a Swedish word, you know?)
Looking at it that way, and what Russia is doing now, I figure my ancestors owe everyone! :laugh:
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Better an owner than a slave?
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Charlie Rangel Accuses You and Me of Being Descendants of Slave Owners
And?
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alicewonders asks:
[[ When do we get to get past the slavery issue? ]]
Answer:
So long as there are blacks in America, you don't.
No matter how much you give them, no matter how much you atone for the past, no matter how many whites must be discriminated against so that blacks can have "their fair share", "the slavery issue" will forever be used against you.
It's really that simple...
[[ Most all of us can go back to some point in history when our ancestors were enslaved by someone, unless we're from a royal family. Does this define who we are now? ]]
For blacks it will ALWAYS "define" who they are vis-a-vis whites in America. Slavery is a pyschological weapon that they cannot and will never put down. Until they are -forced- to lay it down...
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Howie wrote above:
[[ Like then, there is War of Northern Aggression that is being conducted against the South.
Maybe this time it will have the right outcome. ]]
This time, it has become a War of Federal Agression that is being conducted against freedom-loving Americans in -all- the states.
Like you, I hope for the "right" outcome!
Deo Vindice!
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Charlie Rangel accuses you and me of being descendants of slave owners.
In my case he's right, and I'm not losing a whole lot of sleep over it.
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For the record, the first slave owner in America was a black man.
According to colonial records, the first slave owner in the United States was a black man.
Prior to 1655 there were no legal slaves in the colonies, only indentured servants. All masters were required to free their servants after their time was up. Seven years was the limit that an indentured servant could be held. Upon their release they were granted 50 acres of land. This included any Negro purchased from slave traders. Negros were also granted 50 acres upon their release.
Anthony Johnson was a Negro from modern-day Angola. He was brought to the US to work on a tobacco farm in 1619. In 1622 he was almost killed when Powhatan Indians attacked the farm. 52 out of 57 people on the farm perished in the attack. He married a female black servant while working on the farm.
When Anthony was released he was legally recognized as a “free Negro” and ran a successful farm. In 1651 he held 250 acres and five black indentured servants. In 1654, it was time for Anthony to release John Casor, a black indentured servant. Instead Anthony told Casor he was extending his time. Casor left and became employed by the free white man Robert Parker.
Anthony Johnson sued Robert Parker in the Northampton Court in 1654. In 1655, the court ruled that Anthony Johnson could hold John Casor indefinitely. The court gave judicial sanction for blacks to own slave of their own race. Thus Casor became the first permanent slave and Johnson the first slave owner.
Whites still could not legally hold a black servant as an indefinite slave until 1670. In that year, the colonial assembly passed legislation permitting free whites, blacks, and Indians the right to own blacks as slaves.
By 1699, the number of free blacks prompted fears of a “Negro insurrection.” Virginia Colonial ordered the repatriation of freed blacks back to Africa. Many blacks sold themselves to white masters so they would not have to go to Africa. This was the first effort to gently repatriate free blacks back to Africa. The modern nations of Sierra Leone and Liberia both originated as colonies of repatriated former black slaves.
However, black slave owners continued to thrive in the United States.
By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.
http://topconservativenews.com/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was-a-black-man/
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For the record, the first slave owner in America was a black man.
Absolutely!
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Absolutely!
There are still slave owners today. Right now. Most of them are Black and in Africa, but there are also many in the Middle East, and all over Asia.
Blacks love to talk about 'slavery' as if it only happened in America, and was only done by White people. 'Slavery' is very active all over the world at this very moment. And is done mostly by Black rulers in Africa.
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Charlie Rangel accuses you and me of being descendants of slave owners
Really?
Guess who else is a descendant of slave owners?
WASHINGTON — Many people know that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's father was from Kenya and his mother from Kansas.
But an intriguing sliver of his family history has received almost no attention until now: It appears that forebears of his white mother owned slaves, according to genealogical research and census records.
The records, which had never been addressed publicly by the Illinois senator or his relatives, were first noted in an ancestry report compiled by William Addams Reitwiesner, who works at the Library of Congress and practices genealogy in his spare time. The report, on Reitwiesner's Web site, carries a disclaimer that it is a "first draft" --one likely to be examined more closely if Obama is nominated.
According to the research, one of Obama's great-great-great-great grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned two slaves who were recorded in the 1850 census in Nelson County, Ky. The same records show that one of Obama's great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also owned two slaves.
The Baltimore Sun retraced much of Reitwiesner's work, using census information available on the Web site ancestry.com and documents retrieved by the Kentucky Department for Libraries and Archives, among other sources. The records show that Overall, then 30, owned a 15-year-old black female and a 25-year-old black male, while Mary Duvall, his mother-in-law, owned a 60-year-old black man and a 58-year-old black woman.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2007-03-02/news/0703020128_1_william-addams-reitwiesner-slaves-mary-duvall