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[Just like the *red wave* *****rollingeyes*****]
April 1, 2024
A GOP Landslide in November
By Patrick J. Gibbs
It’s there for the taking. A Republican overwhelming victory across the board, taking back the White House and securing huge majorities in both houses of Congress, is attainable if the election is more about “Biden Democrats” and their policies and less about Donald Trump.
The Biden administration has imposed disastrous policies on the country. Polls show that 60% of voters are ready to boot Joe Biden out of the White House. But what happens if the Democrats beat them to it by replacing their loser candidate? It could happen if they also figure out how to displace Kamala Harris without alienating the voters who think her race and gender qualified her to sit in the White House and possibly the Oval Office.
The GOP needs to hammer their opponents on no less than five terrible policies and identify them all as Democrat policies instead of just those of “Crooked Joe Biden.”
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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/04/a_gop_landslide_in_november.html
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Yeppers, just like the red wave that never happened. The GOP's ship sunk quite awhile ago, and some continue to abandon ship!
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It’s there for the taking. A Republican overwhelming victory across the board, taking back the White House and securing huge majorities in both houses of Congress, is attainable if the election is more about “Biden Democrats” and their policies and less about Donald Trump.
The one person who will never, ever let that happen is Donald Trump.
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The one person who will never, ever let that happen is Donald Trump.
I think a red wave is attainable, however, you are right Trump has a tendency to suck the wind out of the room these days.
On the other hand, perhaps there are a lot of people who want neither candidate and will be just voting down ballot -- then the race is truly on. Unfortunately, the RNC is spending $$ to help pay Trump's legal fees and little is left for those struggling down ballot.
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I think a red wave is attainable, however, you are right Trump has a tendency to suck the wind out of the room these days.
On the other hand, perhaps there are a lot of people who want neither candidate and will be just voting down ballot -- then the race is truly on. Unfortunately, the RNC is spending $$ to help pay Trump's legal fees and little is left for those struggling down ballot.
The other thing is the MAGA elements of the GOP that go after any Republican who doesn't vigorously support and defend Trump.
So even if you made it about down-ticket races, MAGA will ensure that it is still about Trump.
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The other thing is the MAGA elements of the GOP who go after any Republican who doesn't vigorously support and defend Trump.
So even if you made it about down-ticket races, MAGA will ensure that it is still about Trump.
Agreed; MAGA is doing more harm than good.
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The other thing is the MAGA elements of the GOP that go after any Republican who doesn't vigorously support and defend Trump.
As opposed to the legacy GOP telling its members to vote for Biden over Trump.
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Agreed; MAGA is doing more harm than good.
There is a civil war going on in the GOP right now. Pick a side, @libertybele ---- and try and stay there. :laugh:
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There is a civil war going on in the GOP right now. Pick a side, @libertybele ---- and try and there. :laugh:
I am on the side of conservatism.
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I am on the side of conservatism.
@libertybele
That's good. So how will you vote in November should Biden and Trump be the nominees?
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I am on the side of conservatism.
This answer is so overused it has become a hackneyed cliche and is now meaningless.
Just thought you should know. happy77
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This answer is so overused it has become a hackneyed cliche and is now meaningless.
Just thought you should know. happy77
@Right_in_Virginia
Not to worry. I'm drilling down. We'll get down to specifics eventually.
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I think a red wave is attainable, however, you are right Trump has a tendency to suck the wind out of the room these days.
@libertybele
That must be why nobody ever shows up at his rallies,huh?
Which loser did you support?
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The other thing is the MAGA elements of the GOP that go after any Republican who doesn't vigorously support and defend Trump
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So even if you made it about down-ticket races, MAGA will ensure that it is still about Trump.
@Maj. Bill Martin
Those meanies!
Going after those sore losers just because they hate Trump for being they wanted to be,and trying to destroy his campaign so they can jump up and down in glee as Biden is sworn in again and they can say "See,I told you so! You should have voted for me/my butt-buddy!"
A whole freaking pack of whiny losers.
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Agreed; MAGA is doing more harm than good.
@libertybele
I know!
Almost nobody is supporting him,huh?
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@libertybele
That's good. So how will you vote in November should Biden and Trump be the nominees?
As I have stated several times, I will vote down ballot for as many conservatives as I can.
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This answer is so overused it has become a hackneyed cliche and is now meaningless.
Just thought you should know. happy77
Gee, thanks for your opinion @Right_in_Virginia. You stick to MAGA and I'll stick to conservatism. :laugh:
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@Maj. Bill Martin
Those meanies!
Going after those sore losers just because they hate Trump for being they wanted to be,and trying to destroy his campaign so they can jump up and down in glee as Biden is sworn in again and they can say "See,I told you so! You should have voted for me/my butt-buddy!"
A whole freaking pack of whiny losers.
*****rollingeyes*****
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Gee, thanks for your opinion @Right_in_Virginia. You stick to MAGA and I'll stick to conservatism. :laugh:
@libertybele
ROFLMAO!
You are sticking to helping allow Biden or his stand-in to be President.
How is THAT "being conservative"?
It's the equivalent of a whore preaching chastity.
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@libertybele
ROFLMAO!
You are sticking to helping allow Biden or his stand-in to be President.
How is THAT "being conservative"?
It's the equivalent of a whore preaching chastity.
Point being is that Trump is not a conservative.
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Wow same old tired tripe from the usual suspects if you don't vote for Trump we're ignorant, hate Orange Man just because he because he's rich so we are jealous *****rollingeyes***** and just too ignorant to realize just how bitchin he is with all the things he accomplished but were immediately erased because he just couldn't work with his two years of supermajority or the three SC justices that
he McTurtle rammed through....and of course the always popular if you don't vote for Trump you're voting for Hillary Biden...what if I don't vote for either one :pondering: who am I voting for then RFK Jr.? I am so sick and tired of being told I'm a traitor if I don't go Orange on one hand but on the other hand being told the Orange one doesn't need the vote of people like me 9999hair out0000
It's real damn simple everyone vote their conscience for who they want and just but the hell out of other peoples choices, don't insult them don't demean them, don't accuse them and don't blame them. Suck it up buttercup and stick to your own damn vote because I can guaranty that there is not one member of the forum who isn't already firm in their vote and there is only person that could change their minds......TRUMP doing/saying something really stupid and odds on that are even money :whistle:
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@Right_in_Virginia
Not to worry. I'm drilling down. We'll get down to specifics eventually.
Godspeed! @AllThatJazzZ :beer:
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It’s true that Trump isn’t a conservative. He’s a populist
But the problem is if elected, he’s going to double down on his mistakes from his first term. For example, he wants more and higher tariffs like his first term despite the trade war and increased costs when he did it the first time. That’s a tax increase on businesses and consumers who are already dealing with high costs
He has no problem with more debt, borrowing, and printing despite the inflation it ushered in
On COVID, he has said he gives himself an “A” in how he handled it, and he has said that he didn’t get the credit he deserved. is there any reason to think, should we have another pandemic, he won’t follow the same formula?
Issues and the record matters. Not labels
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As opposed to the legacy GOP telling its members to vote for Biden over Trump.
A pox on BOTH. And Buydem too.
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So even if you made it about down-ticket races, MAGA will ensure that it is still about Trump.
@Maj. Bill Martin
Those meanies!
Going after those sore losers just because they hate Trump for being they wanted to be,and trying to destroy his campaign so they can jump up and down in glee as Biden is sworn in again and they can say "See,I told you so! You should have voted for me/my butt-buddy!"
A whole freaking pack of whiny losers.
You mean like you'll be when you can't drag his fat a** across the finish line?
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@libertybele
ROFLMAO!
You are sticking to helping allow Biden or his stand-in to be President.
How is THAT "being conservative"?
It's the equivalent of a whore preaching chastity.
So the other option is to let the Right do what the Left does, and Conservatism is dead.
No thanks.
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Point being is that Trump is not a conservative.
@libertybele
No,the point is that electing Trump for one term is the ONLY shot we have at saving America from becoming a cog in the Globalist machine.
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I will chop both my feet off and cut both my hands off and then shoot myself in the head, before I would ever vote for the Orange Satan!
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Wow same old tired tripe from the usual suspects if you don't vote for Trump we're ignorant, hate Orange Man just because he because he's rich so we are jealous *****rollingeyes***** and just too ignorant to realize just how bitchin he is with all the things he accomplished but were immediately erased because he just couldn't work with his two years of supermajority or the three SC justices that he McTurtle rammed through....and of course the always popular if you don't vote for Trump you're voting for Hillary Biden...what if I don't vote for either one :pondering: who am I voting for then RFK Jr.? I am so sick and tired of being told I'm a traitor if I don't go Orange on one hand but on the other hand being told the Orange one doesn't need the vote of people like me 9999hair out0000
It's real damn simple everyone vote their conscience for who they want and just but the hell out of other peoples choices, don't insult them don't demean them, don't accuse them and don't blame them. Suck it up buttercup and stick to your own damn vote because I can guaranty that there is not one member of the forum who isn't already firm in their vote and there is only person that could change their minds......TRUMP doing/saying something really stupid and odds on that are even money :whistle:
@GtHawk
Don't worry about it,bubba.
I am sure you will be MUCH happier with Biden-2 as President.
And make no mistake about it,it will be either Biden/a Biden clone,or Trump sitting in the WH after the next election.
Just think,you will be able to brag to your children and grandchildren that you helped re-elect Biden!
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@libertybele
No,the point is that electing Trump for one term is the ONLY shot we have at saving America from becoming a cog in the Globalist machine.
Well, thanks for your opinion, but we are already a cog in the Globalist machine.
Trump already stomped on the two people who could have saved this Republic. Why would I vote for him?
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I am on the side of conservatism.
What she means is according to your postings, you switch sides weekly. Make up your dang mind! :laugh:.
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You mean like you'll be when you can't drag his fat a** across the finish line?
@roamer_1
Nope,but I will know that *I* did the right thing in order to try to save America from globalism,instead of sitting on my sanctimonious,self-righteous ass,and then blaming the fall of America on Trump instead of accepting the blame you deserve.
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Point being is that Trump is not a conservative.
So damned what... Biden isn't a Democrat. The entire Democrat Party isn't.
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So the other option is to let the Right do what the Left does, and Conservatism is dead.
No thanks.
@roamer_1
You have it wrong,bubba. NOT doing anything you can do to prevent the globalists from taking over America is what is going to kill conservatism,and you should stand up and take your bows for helping when it does happen.
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@roamer_1
You have it wrong,bubba. NOT doing anything you can do to prevent the globalists from taking over America is what is going to kill conservatism,and you should stand up and take your bows for helping when it does happen.
Stop using words and phrases that you don’t understand
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I will chop both my feet off and cut both my hands off and then shoot myself in the head, before I would ever vote for the Orange Satan!
@240B
Good to hear!
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There aren't going TO BE any more "GOP landslides".
The country is now too ideologically divided.
My prediction for 2024 remains almost word-for-word what I posted here on October 17, 2020:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417203.msg2305819.html#msg2305819
I will hope that if Mr. Trump does get re-elected, that he'll have enough coattails to flip the Senate and hold the House.
And if the Pubbies really want to get anything done to "save" [what's left of] the country, they had better get rid of the Senate filibuster, as well.
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There aren't going TO BE any more "GOP landslides".
The country is now too ideologically divided.
My prediction for 2024 remains almost word-for-word what I posted here on October 17, 2020:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417203.msg2305819.html#msg2305819
I will hope that if Mr. Trump does get re-elected, that he'll have enough coattails to flip the Senate and hold the House.
And if the Pubbies really want to get anything done to "save" [what's left of] the country, they had better get rid of the Senate filibuster, as well.
@Fishrrman
And THERE it is,the ONLY hope of saving America.
And I honestly think this is our last chance.
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And if the Pubbies really want to get anything done to "save" [what's left of] the country, they had better get rid of the Senate filibuster, as well.
That’ll be good news when the Democrats take the Senate again should they lose it this year
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There is a civil war going on in the GOP right now. Pick a side, @libertybele ---- and try and there. :laugh:
Conservative or Democrat-lite?
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I will chop both my feet off and cut both my hands off and then shoot myself in the head, before I would ever vote for the Orange Satan!
Tough talk from a member of the "Mean Tweets Scare Me Club". 88devil
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@libertybele
No,the point is that electing Trump for one term is the ONLY shot we have at saving America from becoming a cog in the Globalist machine.
Not true.
Barring a dark horse, that decision has already past. Y'all got your big government candidate. Same as the other one. That's on you.
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What she means is according to your postings, you switch sides weekly. Make up your dang mind! :laugh:.
Thanks @DCPatriot ---- that's what I meant. happy77
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@roamer_1
Nope,but I will know that *I* did the right thing in order to try to save America from globalism,instead of sitting on my sanctimonious,self-righteous ass,and then blaming the fall of America on Trump instead of accepting the blame you deserve.
Voting for Big.gov from the right is not the right thing.
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So damned what... Biden isn't a Democrat. The entire Democrat Party isn't.
Both parties have a whole lot to be desired.
As for Biden, I just don't see them running him much longer; he and we would be better off having the big Easter bunnies watching over him.
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@roamer_1
You have it wrong,bubba. NOT doing anything you can do to prevent the globalists from taking over America is what is going to kill conservatism,and you should stand up and take your bows for helping when it does happen.
So elect YOUR globalist. That'll make it better. *****rollingeyes*****
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Voting for Big.gov from the right is not the right thing.
But voting against the Communists certainly is, ya virtue-signaling bleep!
22222frying pan
@roamer_1 DC
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Thanks @DCPatriot ---- that's what I meant. happy77
@Right_in_Virginia :beer:
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I will chop both my feet off and cut both my hands off and then shoot myself in the head, before I would ever vote for the Orange Satan!
But NOT necessarily in that order!! :laugh:
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But voting against the Communists certainly is, ya virtue-signaling bleep!
It's the very same thing. Either way. Just trading dumass bumperstickers.
In the mean time, the price goes up and up, and government is just going to get more intrusive. Because YOU let it.
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Voting for Big.gov from the right is not the right thing.
According to you, only this is doing the right thing:
(https://cdn.amebaowndme.com/madrid-prd/madrid-web/images/sites/1588493/ec9b149cbada4f3f51f829f6e754d6a2_4b444443aaf891725212ec0e589c7580.jpg?width=594)
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What she means is according to your postings, you switch sides weekly. Make up your dang mind! :laugh:.
Once more -- I am NOT voting for Trump and will be voting for conservatives down ballot.
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According to you, only this is doing the right thing:
(https://cdn.amebaowndme.com/madrid-prd/madrid-web/images/sites/1588493/ec9b149cbada4f3f51f829f6e754d6a2_4b444443aaf891725212ec0e589c7580.jpg?width=594)
Bullshit. That'd be y'all.
Government will get bigger and more intrusive, and cost more under Tumpy. He's already declared it, and his record proves it.
That's the same damn thing, either way. Turd burger or sh*t sandwich.
No thanks. Y'all got nothing I want. You ain't fighting sh*t.
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Not true.
Barring a dark horse, that decision has already past. Y'all got your big government candidate. Same as the other one. That's on you.
@roamer_1
No,that is on selfish,self-centered slackers like you who want to do your little "superiority dances" in your living rooms as the Globalists take over.
YOU and your "Fellow travelers" can take pride in being as guilty of causing this to happen as anybody in the DNC.
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It’s true that Trump isn’t a conservative. He’s a populist
But the problem is if elected, he’s going to double down in his mistakes. For example, he wants more and higher tariffs like his first term despite the trade war and increased costs when he did it the first time. That’s a tax increase on businesses and consumers who are already dealing with high costs
He has no problem with more debt, borrowing, and printing despite the inflation it ushered in
On COVID, he has said he gives himself an “A” in how he handled it, and he has said that he didn’t get the credit he deserved. is there any reason to think, should we have another pandemic, he won’t follow the same formula?
Issues and the record matters. Not labels
Generally agree with this.
Unfortunately, I myself will hold my nose for Trump. I have always felt it’s better to gain an advantage overall by having “R” hold power.
Strange I have to emphasize to EverTrumpers about holding my nose. That is what they love stating about all those in the past they called RINO, but they refuse to see Trump as a RINO. Thus would be aghast at me stating “hold my nose”.
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Voting for Big.gov from the right is not the right thing.
@roamer_1
And NOT voting against Biden/his clone IS the right thing to do?
In WHAT universe?
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It's the very same thing. Either way. Just trading dumass bumperstickers.
In the mean time, the price goes up and up, and government is just going to get more intrusive. Because YOU let it.
@roamer_1
Looking in a mirror while posting?
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@roamer_1
No,that is on selfish,self-centered slackers like you who want to do your little "superiority dances" in your living rooms as the Globalists take over.
YOU and your "Fellow travelers" can take pride in being as guilty of causing this to happen as anybody in the DNC.
Because we we won't vote for big government coming from the right.
Well, DUH. That is exactly diametrically OPPOSED to Conservatism - Yoou know, the thing we are supposed to be standing upon?
Is it any wonder that you lost our votes? Your 'where are they gonna go' attitude needs adjustment.
NOW you know where we're gonna go. Not with you. And we been saying so all the way along.
So go ahead. You broke it, you bought it.
I get to sit back, point, and laugh.
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@roamer_1
And NOT voting against Biden/his clone IS the right thing to do?
In WHAT universe?
You're not voting 'against' anything. Your vote is an endorsement - And that is all it ever is.
I will not endorse big.gov from the right.
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@roamer_1
Looking in a mirror while posting?
I ain't voting for big government. you are.
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Wow same old tired tripe from the usual suspects if you don't vote for Trump we're ignorant, hate Orange Man just because he because he's rich so we are jealous *****rollingeyes***** and just too ignorant to realize just how bitchin he is with all the things he accomplished but were immediately erased because he just couldn't work with his two years of supermajority or the three SC justices that he McTurtle rammed through....and of course the always popular if you don't vote for Trump you're voting for Hillary Biden...what if I don't vote for either one :pondering: who am I voting for then RFK Jr.? I am so sick and tired of being told I'm a traitor if I don't go Orange on one hand but on the other hand being told the Orange one doesn't need the vote of people like me 9999hair out0000
It's real damn simple everyone vote their conscience for who they want and just but the hell out of other peoples choices, don't insult them don't demean them, don't accuse them and don't blame them. Suck it up buttercup and stick to your own damn vote because I can guaranty that there is not one member of the forum who isn't already firm in their vote and there is only person that could change their minds......TRUMP doing/saying something really stupid and odds on that are even money :whistle:
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It's real damn simple everyone vote their conscience for who they want and just but the hell out of other peoples choices, don't insult them don't demean them, don't accuse them and don't blame them. Suck it up buttercup and stick to your own damn vote because I can guaranty that there is not one member of the forum who isn't already firm in their vote and there is only person that could change their minds......TRUMP doing/saying something really stupid and odds on that are even money :whistle:
888high58888
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I will chop my own head off before I would ever vote for a Christian Patriotic American success story. To Hell with America!
Orange Satan must be defeated!
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I will chop both my feet off and cut both my hands off and then shoot myself in the head, before I would ever vote for the Orange Satan!
TDS.
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Bullshit. That'd be y'all.
Government will get bigger and more intrusive, and cost more under Tumpy. He's already declared it, and his record proves it.
That's the same damn thing, either way. Turd burger or sh*t sandwich.
No thanks. Y'all got nothing I want. You ain't fighting sh*t.
Anger management issues.
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Anger management issues.
Nah.... Not angry at all. Just utterly unwilling to support liberalism from the right.
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There is a civil war going on in the GOP right now. Pick a side, @libertybele ---- and try and stay there. :laugh:
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Unlike the fiasco that played out in 2020, when you blamed everyone else for your Candidates loss, You Trumpers now own the RNC Lock, Stock and Barrell @Right_in_Virginia
Certainly you'll find someone else to blame this time, too; gay eskimos perhaps.
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Bullshit. That'd be y'all.
Ain't that the truth.
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April's Fools...
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April's Fools...
888high58888 :silly:
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But voting against the Communists certainly is, ya virtue-signaling bleep!
22222frying pan
@roamer_1 DC
One can vote against the Communists and still not vote for Bigger Government.
(See: Logical fallacies - False Dilemma)
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This answer is so overused it has become a hackneyed cliche and is now meaningless.
Just thought you should know. happy77
Never thought I would frequent a conservative forum, where a member with 79K posts would mock the concept, and those of us who are of that ideoloogical slant.
This one post totallly sums you up, and what your priorties are. And they aren't toward governmental financial restraint other small government trending. Trump's rotted your brain sadly.
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GOP landslide? If elections were free and fair, but they no longer are. We have a soviet style elective outcome, where elections are FIXED for a particular party. END OF DISCUSSION.
:yowsa: :yowsa: :yowsa:
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Never thought I would frequent a conservative forum, where a member with 79K posts would mock the concept, and those of us who are of that ideoloogical slant.
This one post totallly sums you up, and what your priorties are. And they aren't toward governmental financial restraint other small government trending. Trump's rotted your brain sadly.
I'm not mocking the concept of "conservatism" @catfish1957 I'm pointing out what so many have turned it into --- a hackneyed, catch-all phrase that few, if any, can even define.
My priority is America and returning to the common sense that makes it great. I'm not the one afraid to admit Trump governed as the most conservative President in my lifetime, and will do it again. He kept the promises he made, and will do it again.
So, please, spare me your opinion on rotten brains until yours can grasp more than a label.
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Never thought I would frequent a conservative forum, where a member with 79K posts would mock the concept, and those of us who are of that ideoloogical slant.
This one post totallly sums you up, and what your priorties are. And they aren't toward governmental financial restraint other small government trending. Trump's rotted your brain sadly.
Trump has cast quite a spell over his ardent fans. I’ve seen posts were they believe that they share the same political bloodline as the minutemen…..lol. But their general, after promising to march with them on the Capitol, fled and has left many of them to linger in jail
Despite their delusions of self-importance, the only thing they’re doing this November is simply voting to keep Biden from getting a second term. That’s it. Because Trump really has no plans to fix many of these issues facing us beyond a few sound bites that he believes his supporters want to hear
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Trump has cast quite a spell over his ardent fans. I’ve seen posts were they believe that they share the same political bloodline as the minutemen…..lol. But their general, after promising to march with them on the Capitol, fled and has left many of them to linger in jail
Despite their delusions of self-importance, the only thing they’re doing this November is simply voting to keep Biden from getting a second term. That’s it. Because Trump really has no plans to fix many of these issues facing us beyond a few sound bites that he believes his supporters want to hear
@LMAO
And all you "ah hates rich mans" cretins are doing in helping Biden get re-elected,so quit trying to shovel your "holier than thou" feces down any throats other than your own.
The FACT is your hatred and class envy of Trump and his wealth is so strong you would rather see America destroyed than see him in the WH.
So don't even try to pretend to be anything other than what you are,which is "Good little Comrades of the Left".
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@LMAO
And all you "ah hates rich mans" cretins are doing in helping Biden get re-elected,so quit trying to shovel your "holier than thou" feces down any throats other than your own.
The FACT is your hatred and class envy of Trump and his wealth is so strong you would rather see America destroyed than see him in the WH.
So don't even try to pretend to be anything other than what you are,which is "Good little Comrades of the Left".
See what unquestioning love for a candidate does to the human psyche
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See what love does to the human psyche
@LMAO
No,but I DO see what envy and hatred do.
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@LMAO
No,but I DO see what envy and hatred do.
You have stated over and over again for the last several months how you believe Trump is our last chance to save America but you never really defined what that means
When you are asked to define what that means, you’re only response is to attack that person
I’m an issues voter. Forget political terms like MAGA, progressive, or even conservative. I don’t have any emotional reaction to either one of these candidates.
Let’s take inflation, for example. Neither candidate has any realistic plan to deal with it. We already know Biden wants to spend even more which is not gonna relieve it. But so does Trump.
Trump also wants more and higher tariffs which would basically be another huge tax increase. You throw that on top of inflation, and you’re going to harm American businesses and consumers. Cutting regulations and taxes won’t offset that. So how is harming Americans saving the country?
If you disagree, feel free to outline why. I’m all eyes and ears.
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You have stated over and over again for the last several months how you believe Trump is our last chance to save America but you never really defined what that means
When you are asked to define what that means, you’re only response is to attack that person
@LMAO
The FACT that you can't figure that out goes a long ways towards explaining your "thought" processes.
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@LMAO
The FACT that you can't figure that out goes a long ways towards explaining your "thought" processes.
See… You don’t even know what that means
Ping me when you can articulate what you mean better than just some snarky comebacks
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Getting back to the issue of inflation, really the only way you’re going to fix that problem is deep cuts and spending and especially tightening up the money supply. Back in the late 70s and early 80s, we had to go through a couple of brutal recessions in order to achieve that. It hurt Jimmy Carter’s reelection chances and almost cost Reagan his reelection had the election been held in 1982
But by around 1983 early 1984 the economy was vastly improving, and the situation was turning around for the better. But it took some bitter medicine to get there. Something that both Biden and Trump are unwilling to do.
You can’t have debt to GDP ratios over 100% without at some point consequences of doing such showing up in the economy
Neither of these candidates have any realistic solutions to the long-term problems facing us
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@LMAO
The FACT that you can't figure that out goes a long ways towards explaining your "thought" processes.
I sure it means different things to different people, so the real question is what you mean when you use that phrase.
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I sure it means different things to different people, so the real question is what you mean when you use that phrase.
I’ve asked that question of him several times, and the most I get are one liners like “we won’t be a cog in the globalist machine.”
The left also believes that reelecting Biden will save America. So the idea of a candidate saving America is highly subjective.
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I'm almost 50, and probably far on the younger side here, but in my lifetime every election has been "our last chance" or something like that. It's been around for a while as a thought. It's nothing new.
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I'm not mocking the concept of "conservatism" @catfish1957 I'm pointing out what so many have turned it into --- a hackneyed, catch-all phrase that few, if any, can even define.
No... that YOU can't define... or redefine, though you've tried.
The rest of us have no such problem.
My priority is America and returning to the common sense that makes it great.
Where so-called 'common sense' can mean literally anything at all, because it is tied to no principle thing whatsoever to provide definition.
I'm not the one afraid to admit Trump governed as the most conservative President in my lifetime [...]
Only by the butchered definition you have defined in your mind. By the very real definition, not even close. In fact, he stands yet as far from conservatism as any Democrat, so far, and right up there with the most damaging force AGAINST Conservatism that there is - On the record. Indefensible.
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Riddle me this.
How does helping Joe Biden get re-elected become conservative in any shape for or manner?
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Riddle me this.
How does helping Joe Biden get re-elected become conservative in any shape for or manner?
That is best answered with another riddle:
What is left of America when you have sacrificed everything to save her?
Who is left to defend her when liberalism has infected both her political parties?
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That is best answered with another riddle:
What is left of America when you have sacrificed everything to save her?
Who is left to defend her when liberalism has infected both her political parties?
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I asked a very simple question @roamer_1
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I asked a very simple question @roamer_1
And so I answered.
The very soul of Conservatism is small government. It's very root. I will not lend my endorsement to its antithesis.
If that is where we are, all is already lost.
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Riddle me this.
How does helping Joe Biden get re-elected become conservative in any shape for or manner?
It is unfortunate that we have two liberals as nominees; one is just far more to the left of center than the other.
At the end of the day, both will be destructive to this country, one will just be more destructive at a faster pace.
Heck of a choice. Unless something drastically changes my choice is to still vote down ballot.
This reminds me of the race between McCain and Obama -- both were destructive to this country. The outcome would have been the same. I couldn't bring myself to vote for McCain so I voted 3rd party.
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It is unfortunate that we have two liberals as nominees; one is just far more to the left of center than the other.
At the end of the day, both will be destructive to this country, one will just be more destructive at a faster pace.
Heck of a choice. Unless something drastically changes my choice is to still vote down ballot.
This reminds me of the race between McCain and Obama -- both were destructive to this country. The outcome would have been the same. I couldn't bring myself to vote for McCain so I voted 3rd party.
More than that, the choice on the right... I care far less about this election than I do about what will be deemed acceptable on the Right because of it.
Our choice seems to follow either the Moderate RINOs or the MAGA RINOs.
I will choose neither.
Reagan's Coalition means nothing if we endorse either one.
Nope.
Sometimes you have to draw a hard line and let the chips fall.
Flat nope.
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It is unfortunate that we have two liberals as nominees; one is just far more to the left of center than the other.
At the end of the day, both will be destructive to this country, one will just be more destructive at a faster pace.
Heck of a choice. Unless something drastically changes my choice is to still vote down ballot.
This reminds me of the race between McCain and Obama -- both were destructive to this country. The outcome would have been the same. I couldn't bring myself to vote for McCain so I voted 3rd party.
Rephrasing my question, how does helping the worst of the pair advance conservativism?
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And so I answered.
The very soul of Conservatism is small government. It's very root. I will not lend my endorsement to its antithesis.
If that is where we are, all is already lost.
NO! You did not answer the question! You twisted yourself into a (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61p13I80jYL._SX300_SY300_QL70_FMwebp_.jpg) to avoid doing so.
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Rephrasing my question, how does helping the worst of the pair advance conservativism?
As for me, I'll help neither one.
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NO! You did not answer the question! You twisted yourself into a (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61p13I80jYL._SX300_SY300_QL70_FMwebp_.jpg) to avoid doing so.
No, I did not.
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Rephrasing my question, how does helping the worst of the pair advance conservativism?
It doesn't and neither does voting for either one of them.
The only chance at advancing conservatism are with those conservatives in the House and Senate and those at the state and local levels.
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It doesn't
Thank you! That is the ONLY correct answer to the question I posed!
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More than that, the choice on the right... I care far less about this election than I do about what will be deemed acceptable on the Right because of it.
Our choice seems to follow either the Moderate RINOs or the MAGA RINOs.
I will choose neither.
Reagan's Coalition means nothing if we endorse either one.
Nope.
Sometimes you have to draw a hard line and let the chips fall.
Flat nope.
Reagan's coalition has been dead since '88. Why do you think it has any relevance today?
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Thank you! That is the ONLY correct answer to the question I posed!
I don't view a non-vote for Trump and voting down ballot as advancing Biden. I have struggled with my decision but voting down ballot is the only way for me to vote my conscience.
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Reagan's coalition has been dead since '88. Why do you think it has any relevance today?
Then y'all hold no interest for me.
My reason for political activism is the Conservative Coalition.
That's what we agreed to in supporting Republicans, and that is all I will honor.
Go where you will. But I won't go with you.
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No... that YOU can't define... or redefine, though you've tried.
The rest of us have no such problem.
Great. Then you should have no problem defining the full conservative position. How would a "true conservative" handle these issues (specifics would be helpful) ----
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
4. Equity vs. equality,
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
6. Energy independence,
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
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I don't view a non-vote for Trump and voting down ballot as advancing Biden.
I find that illogical since one of them is going to be elected president and a non vote for Trump makes it easier fo Biden to win.
I have struggled with my decision but voting down ballot is the only way for me to vote my conscience.
I suggest that you struggle some more.
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Great. Then you should have no problem defining the full conservative position. How would a "true conservative" handle these issues (specifics would be helpful) ----
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
4. Equity vs. equality,
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
6. Energy independence,
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
I already have. to you. more than once. and all of the above is best fixed with small government and the defense of libertarian ideals.
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Then y'all hold no interest for me.
My reason for political activism is the Conservative Coalition.
That's what we agreed to in supporting Republicans, and that is all I will honor.
Go where you will. But I won't go with you.
My interest is in retaining what remains of my God given liberties for as long as possible while living to fight another day.
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I find that illogical since one of them is going to be elected president and a non vote for Trump makes it easier fo Biden to win.
So what, if there is no appreciable difference?
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My interest is in retaining what remains of my God given liberties for as long as possible while living to fight another day.
And how exactly is that achieved by weakening their defense on the Right?
Do you think the left will defend them instead?
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I already have. to you. more than once. and all of the above is best fixed with small government and the defense of libertarian ideals.
Specifics, please. The electorate demands specifics. You're now at the point where your rubber meets the road. Give it a shot.
How would a "true conservative" handle these issues ---
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
4. Equity vs. equality,
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
6. Energy independence,
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
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Then y'all hold no interest for me.
My reason for political activism is the Conservative Coalition.
That's what we agreed to in supporting Republicans, and that is all I will honor.
Go where you will. But I won't go with you.
The Conservative Coalition died in the Republican Revolution ('94) . Is that your definition now of "Conservative Coalition"?
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So what, if there is no appreciable difference?
The fact that YOU cannot see any differences dosen't mean there are none! I personally see several starting with the kinds of people each would nominate to fill various court vacancies.
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And how exactly is that achieved by weakening their defense on the Right?
Do you think the left will defend them instead?
They would be less weakened under Trump than under Biden. Very specifically!
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Specifics, please. The electorate demands specifics. You're now at the point where your rubber meets the road. Give it a shot.
How would a "true conservative" handle these issues ---
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
4. Equity vs. equality,
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
6. Energy independence,
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
Those are very thought-provoking questions requiring equally well thought out answers @Right_in_Virginia but NO ONE here has the time nor inclination to discuss any of them seriously.
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From my personal POV, the overwhelming bedrock of conservatism is fiscal restraint. Biden and Trump both fail miserably there.
Until we deal with that, both candidates can KMA.
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It is unfortunate that we have two liberals as nominees; one is just far more to the left of center than the other.
At the end of the day, both will be destructive to this country
Are you sure about this? @libertybele
Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
In case you didn’t know,
The Biden Administration flew about 90% of illegal immigrants detained at crossing to Florida and Texas via a secret flight program.
21,964 to Houston and 326,000 to Miami
Do you see what they’re doing?
1:05 PM · Apr 2, 2024
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Here is my response to question one asked by @Right_in_Virginia above:
How would a "true conservative” handle these issues?
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration.
A true conservative would:
a. Shut down both borders and keep them so until we have a good handle as to who is here illegally and have the vast majority of them removed.
b. Press for laws that would actually prevent them coming here in the future.
c. Protect our land and water from foreign ownership
d. Press for laws that ENHANCE rather than degrade our ability to produce things here at home rather than purchasing them elsewhere.
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Those are very thought-provoking questions requiring equally well thought out answers @Right_in_Virginia but NO ONE here has the time nor inclination to discuss any of them seriously.
I've tried for years to get us to really discuss how to govern as Republicans/Conservatives ---- Yes, I've asked a lot of one person to answer --- but fair answers will help prove that while Trump doesn't always wear the conservative label, he has governed as one -- and will again.
My fear @Bigun is that this "no difference" mantra is helping to doom this nation.
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I've tried for years to get us to really discuss how to govern as Republicans/Conservatives ---- Yes, I've asked a lot of one person to answer --- but fair answers will help prove that while Trump doesn't always wear the conservative label, he has governed as one -- and will again.
No one here has tried harder to introduce discussion of issues on this forum than I have @Right_in_Virginia and had very little success.
My fear @Bigun is that this "no difference" mantra is helping to doom this nation.
No doubt about it if you ask me.
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The Conservative Coalition died in the Republican Revolution ('94) . Is that your definition now of "Conservative Coalition"?
No it did not,
The 94 Congress was a revival of the same precepts defined in Goldwater and Reagan. As was the Tea Party. Nothing has changed.
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Specifics, please. The electorate demands specifics. You're now at the point where your rubber meets the road. Give it a shot.
How would a "true conservative" handle these issues ---
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
4. Equity vs. equality,
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
6. Energy independence,
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
Very well... I will answer yet again. But not till I am back on my laptop.
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From my personal POV, the overwhelming bedrock of conservatism is fiscal restraint. Biden and Trump both fail miserably there.
Until we deal with that, both candidates can KMA.
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This
We are facing near 2 trillion dollar deficits and printing more and more money to fund the federal government. The federal government has become larger and more powerful as a result
Has this coincided with average American's becoming more free and wealthier???
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No it did not,
The 94 Congress was a revival of the same precepts defined in Goldwater and Reagan. As was the Tea Party.
Yes! And all of it was promptly thrown under the bus
Nothing has changed.
8bs8
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The fact that YOU cannot see any differences dosen't mean there are none! I personally see several starting with the kinds of people each would nominate to fill various court vacancies.
There is none. on the record, there is little difference at all.
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They would be less weakened under Trump than under Biden. Very specifically!
That is not true. Biden is not supposed to be governing from the Right, and makes no claim there.
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Those are very thought-provoking questions requiring equally well thought out answers @Right_in_Virginia but NO ONE here has the time nor inclination to discuss any of them seriously.
I'd happily discuss all of them seriously.
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From my personal POV, the overwhelming bedrock of conservatism is fiscal restraint. Biden and Trump both fail miserably there.
Until we deal with that, both candidates can KMA.
Join that to libertarianism and I will agree.
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I've tried for years to get us to really discuss how to govern as Republicans/Conservatives ---- Yes, I've asked a lot of one person to answer --- but fair answers will help prove that while Trump doesn't always wear the conservative label, he has governed as one -- and will again.
My fear @Bigun is that this "no difference" mantra is helping to doom this nation.
LOL!
No you have not.
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No one here has tried harder to introduce discussion of issues on this forum than I have @Right_in_Virginia and had very little success.
Oh, me too. As did all my philosophical fellows, most of whom have drifted off as the aggregation of news turned to Tump love instead if Conservatism.
No doubt about it if you ask me.
there is no difference.
Look at the record instead of the speechifying.
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Are you sure about this? @libertybele
I am well aware that illegals are being flown into FL -- they are being flown into different part of the U.S., strategically being placed so once amnesty is granted it will be impossible for any Republican to be seated. I've been saying this for quite some time.
It doesn't nullify the fact that Trump trounced on two very conservative candidate who could have changed things.
Trump failed at the very issue that he won the presidency on -- building a wall and stopping ILLEGAL immigration. Where are we at now because of his failed policies?
He had a super majority for two years! He did nothing until the eleventh hour and the new Congress was to be seated, and he ignored Cruz several times to start acting on the border.
The GOP is in shambles -- we have a razor thin majority in the House; 2 Speakers have failed and the DEMS still are in control.
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Yes! And all of it was promptly thrown under the bus
8bs8
So throw it under the bus sommore?
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there is no difference.
Look at the record instead of the speechifying.
No matter how many times you repeat that, it will NEVER be true.
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So throw it under the bus sommore?
LOL! All of that was done LONG before Trump became a candidate for any elective office!
They aren't going to the mat to get rid of Trump because he is one of them.
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On trade, Trump's more aligned with Herbert Hoover
On the border, although better than Biden by far, is similar to Obama
On fiscal policy, is one of the worse. We will see how he compares to Biden should Biden win a second term.
On Monetary policy, Trump is aligned with AOC and Bernie Sanders
On crime, talks a big game, but is softer than Biden, or at least the 1990's version of Biden, on crime
All the above are backed up by Trump's records and statements
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No matter how many times you repeat that, it will NEVER be true.
It is absolutely true.
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LOL! All of that was done LONG before Trump became a candidate for any elective office!
They aren't going to the mat to get rid of Trump because he is one of them.
LOL!
Is that what you see?
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On trade, Trump's more aligned with Herbert Hoover
On the border, although better than Biden by far, is similar to Obama
On fiscal policy, is one of the worse. We will see how he compares to Biden should Biden win a second term.
On Monetary policy, Trump is aligned with AOC and Bernie Sanders
On crime, talks a big game, but is softer than Biden, or at least the 1990's version of Biden, on crime
All the above are backed up by Trump's records and statements
All of that is fair and true.
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It is absolutely true.
No! It absolutely is not!
Now, for a change, answer the questions you have been asked on this thread instead of posturing.
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LOL!
Is that what you see?
:yowsa: That is EXACTLY what I see. Both sides aligned against Trump and have been from day one.
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Has anyone made the claim that a Biden win advances conservatism???
Of course it doesn't. But the Trump win from 2016 has seemed to advance leftism
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Has anyone made the claim that a Biden win advances conservatism???
Of course it doesn't. But the Trump win from 2016 has seemed to advance leftism
8bs8
BOTH sides of the swamp have been aligned against Trump from day one!
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I've tried for years to get us to really discuss how to govern as Republicans/Conservatives ---- Yes, I've asked a lot of one person to answer --- but fair answers will help prove that while Trump doesn't always wear the conservative label, he has governed as one -- and will again.
My fear @Bigun is that this "no difference" mantra is helping to doom this nation.
Well, I wanted to start a thread in the forum a couple of years ago, entitled, ''where do we go from here' and the idea was shut down.
As far as discussing how to govern as Republican/Conservatives; our first remedy is at the ballot box, which I see as an impossibility due to the underhandedness of the DEMS. The only other remedy is to run for office, either at the local or state office; or get involved at the precincts - my health will not allow me to do so .Calling or writing our congressmen is the other option; those calls tend to fall on deaf ears unless there are enough calls to overload the switchboard. That was accomplished during 'W's reign with the help of a group called 'Numbers USA'. They don't have the impact anymore-- MAGA took hold. Yes, I personally am bombard with requests for donations ... No Thank You! Who knows where the money is going and if it is helping.
Hey we now have Lara Trump assisting with the RNC. No worries right? :laugh:
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No! It absolutely is not!
Now, for a change, answer the questions you have been asked on this thread instead of posturing.
It is verifiably true, on the record. Tumpy is indefensible! Especially on Conservative ground.
As to answer, the only post I have not answered fully has been one post by RiV, which is too complicated to be answered pithily, and awaits my laptop, for a better method than these cursed thumbs.
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8bs8
BOTH sides of the swamp have been aligned against Trump from day one!
Cute graphic
The problem is what I said was true.
And what makes you believe they won't be aligned against him should he win again?
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It is verifiably true, on the record. Tumpy is indefensible! Especially on Conservative ground.
As to answer, the only post I have not answered fully has been one post by RiV, which is too complicated to be answered pithily, and awaits my laptop, for a better method than these cursed thumbs.
*****rollingeyes*****
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:yowsa: That is EXACTLY what I see. Both sides aligned against Trump and have been from day one.
A wee suggestion... When the magician is showing you his right hand, look at what the left one is doing. Look at the record. Get the 'big show' out of your head, and look at the record.
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The problem is what I said was true.
No! It definitely is not true!
And what makes you believe they won't be aligned against him should he win again?
Nothing! Not a single thing!
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A wee suggestion... When the magician is showing you his right hand, look at what the left one is doing. Look at the record. Get the 'big show' out of your head, and look at the record.
**nononono*
The RECORD is what turned me from a person who refused to vote for Trump in 2016 to someone who would have crawled over a mile of broken glass to vote for him in 2020 and 2024.
The enemy of my enemy (the swamp) is my friend!
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Specifics, please. The electorate demands specifics. You're now at the point where your rubber meets the road. Give it a shot.
How would a "true conservative" handle these issues ---
My belated reply:
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration
Quintessentially a Constitutional imperative, Derived as such, of federal primacy in jurisdiction.
Obviously before the law: Repel all boarders. With prejudice. Anyone here illegally is here illegally, and should serve time and.or be deported. Those illegals are not participatory in the gurantees afforded by the Constitution, and likely should be governed by military code (or something like that, separated from guarantees, other than those provided to military combatants).
Every Conservative I know is *FOR* Duncan Hunter's fence. But only with the manpower to maintain and patrol it, or it will be of no effect.
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments
Constitutionally true wrt the Bill of Rights. But largely a state issue without it. Items not specifically defined in the Constitution are left to the state, and to the People, respectively. Federal oversight of these things merely makes the federal government MORE overbearing.
A smaller Federal government would have less power to wield over the states, and ultimately, that would be the answer in all things wrt federal imposition outside of Constitutional boundaries. Libertarianism.
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
Largely none of our business, outside of the Constitution remaining the supreme law of the land. And internally, much left to the states respectively (within the instantiation of their governing constitutions). Again, a substantially weakened federal power is what will secure us against globalism. The libertarian design of our government has a purpose.
4. Equity vs. equality,
Boring. Obviously only a matter of merit - Equality in opportunity is in that necessitated - Outcomes are governed by merit, loss, and somewhat lady luck. As it should be. The market would govern that, natively, and as defined by the state. No business of the federal government.
5. Military spending, training and qualifications
Not my forte wrt training and qualification, and too broad a question to answer in a word or two. I would defer to the military structure, honor, and code... Except in that Rights under the Constitution remain above Military code, in my mind. Spending is also a wild card, depending on the moment.
I am *FOR* a mighty defense. But I am not for foreign wars as a rule. 'foreign entanglements', etc in either war or treaty, foreign policy generally.
6. Energy independence
Over-regulation removed, largely a matter for an open market. As such, energy independence should be encouraged - but that likely handled naturally with market forces.
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
Far too long to even comment upon - And largely again, a matter that federal government should not acquire. Dept of education has a role, but a minor one I'd suppose, somewhat like weights and measures - Qualifying what a thing is wrt education, so that things that appear the same can be qualified as such. In that, a more rudimentary federal system to knit together state-run curricula into a form cohesive across the collegiate map
But largely, left to the states... To include admissions and grants - The federal government should be specifically prohibited.
'The courts' is a different topic altogether.
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Oh, me too. As did all my philosophical fellows, most of whom have drifted off as the aggregation of news turned to Tump love instead if Conservatism.
there is no difference.
Look at the record instead of the speechifying.
:amen:
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**nononono*
The RECORD is what turned me from a person who refused to vote for Trump in 2016 to someone who would have crawled over a mile of broken glass to vote for him in 2020 and 2024.
The enemy of my enemy (the swamp) is my friend!
Yet the swamp, as you put it, GREW under Tumpy.
That's the record.
I think you're taken in by the 'big show'. That's why I don't listen to a damn thing any of them say. I won't get sucked into the soapy opera abyss.
I look at the record alone. And in that, discounting EOs and judges, for different reasons. I look at what actually changes. Not what's promised from the stump, or what vacillates briefly for a term or two.
What do we get to keep? That is what matters. The rest is bullcrap.
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So what, if there is no appreciable difference?
You're nothing but a troll at this point in time.
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How would a true conservative ha dle these issues:
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
By looking at what Trump did in response to COVID, and definitely not doing that.
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
Again, looking at what Trump did and choosing a different direction would be a good start. For example:
1) not overruling the recommendations of the Secretary of Defense and Chairman of the Joints Chief of Staff in selecting Mark "White Rage" Milley as the next CJS. Then giving him a commendation before leaving office.
2) not signing the National Defense Authorization Act that required the Marine Corps to implement gender integration in recruit training.
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You're nothing but a troll at this point in time.
Bullshit! There is no difference. What changed? Nothing.
The government grew bigger and more rights have been taken.
And the bigger it gets, the more that will happen.
Because the bigger it gets, the more responsibilities it assumes, the more of your liberty fades.
Liberty has responsibilities.
Freedom has consequences.
When the government takes over responsibilities, liberties associated with that responsibility perish.
That's just a fact.
@AllThatJazzZ has a brilliant tagline to that effect.
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Well, I wanted to start a thread in the forum a couple of years ago, entitled, ''where do we go from here' and the idea was shut down.
I would very happily engage in discussions about Conservatism instead of this endless soap opera around Tumpy.
I know it cheapens the discussion, and I know first hand that it has caused philosophical Conservatives to walk away.
ETA: I will be very happy when this entire lurid Tumpy thing is over and done.
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https://twitter.com/Synchro2021/status/1775259755571036541
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https://twitter.com/Synchro2021/status/1775259755571036541
No. Because it's bullcrap. History attests his deportation rates were similar to Obama.
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Right_in_Virginia...
How would a "true conservative" handle these issues ---
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
4. Equity vs. equality,
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
6. Energy independence,
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
Frankly, many of us have made suggestions repeatedly on these boards regarding all your questions. But here is my thoughts to your questions.
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
American sovereignty is paramount to me. PARAMOUNT. I consider every globalist in the USA a traitor. Addressing this fact is just as important as addressing the illegal invaders flooding into the USA. Hang the globalist traitors, every last one of them, and close the border until Congress writes legislation with teeth that control our borders completely. Deport EVERY ILLEGAL INVADING ALIEN, including the young people Obama opened the door to, the acronym escapes me.
Establish a law that indicates the only refugees into America come via application at one of our embassies, and NOT at our border.
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
COVID response opened the floodgate for denying our rights as Americans. New policies must be established regarding pandemics and other catastrophic events. The COVID pandemic proved absolutely that organizations like the CDC and NIH were NOT prepared to address such an outbreak. Both these organizations, as well as most other federal branches of government are grossly overstaffed. If Trump were smart, he would put a hiring freeze in place for every federal agency with the exception of military branches. No one need be terminated, but as folks retire, leave, die, etc, they are NOT replaced until there is a goal met. I suggest a 30% reduction in budget and numbers of folks staffing our government. Once both conditions are met, then hiring can be opened up for positions that are vacated. Also, end all contractors working for the government within six months of Trump taking office. I know for fact that the contractors do the work while the employees sit back doing very little in the way of work. End that nonsense now!
Establish rules regarding censorship for tech companies, rules that LIMIT their ability to censor anything. Exceptions would be for porno, graphic presentations of people being harmed, etc. But the verbal expression of thought should be excluded. PERIOD!!!
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
I think I made myself clear above. Until we make supporting globalism a capital crime, the erosion of our sovereignty will continue. I say indict, convict, and dispatch every last globalist at sunrise the following day upon conviction. WE need to get smart about those out to destroy this nation. Freedom is one thing, but we have become a very dumb nation regarding treason. Redefine treason and put real teeth to the consequences. Guilty of treason, death is the ONLY outsome. Again, in a country with a population marching to 400 million, we can afford to eliminate every last globalist, and not skip a beat.
4. Equity vs. equality,
Equity is slowly dying. We absolutely must have a system based on merit, or we continue our march to become exactly like soviet Russia, where people are NOT productive. We become silent, our vote doesn't matter because elections are fixed, etc.
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
We have military in 140+ nations. I say our allies step up, or we decide who are our true allies, and we get smart about our influence throughout the world. I would not be opposed to reducing our presence in some of these countries.
6. Energy independence,
Pure energy independence with a vengeance. What Biden and the Democommies have done is criminal, and absolutely insane. I do not believe in the climate change nonsense. And it makes no sense the USA make policy along this line while China and India are going full tilt to destroy the environment. Makes no sense.
EVs will not make it. PERIOD!!! They are not competitive. When the day arrives when the government does not subsidize the purchase of EVs, their sales end. Most EVs are being leased, not bought. When manufacturers get the cars back off lease, they ship them overseas and sell them like new cars. Check your used car lots. It is rare even now to see a used EV on used car lots. After forcing that crap as Biden has done, the sales are still single digit. Most are leased and shipped out of the USA when they come off lease. What will half the population do when there are no used cars available, and that is all they can afford? Walk to work? Yeah, right!!! The UGLY TRUTH is that EVs are choking a part of our markets, that being the used car market. If EVs ever got to massive sales, we would NOT have the electric available to charge them daily. The grid cannot support the use requirements now let alone tens of millions of vehicles being charged daily.
And you want to compromise our military, have them use EVs only. Hours to recharge a vehicle versus minutes to refuel a combustion engine. Get real, these Democommies are total idiots.
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
We need sanity returned to the classroom. It should be a felony for any teacher, admin, or any support person at our schools to encourage children to consider transgender anything. I consider what is going on worse than pedophilia. And talk about rights, I think it is time for our Congress to add a new right for parents. Parents should have absolute rights to guide their children, and no one else. PERIOD!!! Otherwise, again we are approaching children as they were treated during the soviet era in Russia, where the state has control, and that is where we are right now in the USA. Talk about dark times ahead, sit back and allow that nonsense to establish further and we are indeed in deep trouble as a society.
Reading Bret Baier's book on Ulysses S. Grant (a great read), I did not realize the woke morons tore down a statue of Grant in the USA. When you consider his history, these people need to pay restitution for the damage they caused. This woke idiocy must be labeled anarchy behavior, and must have a serious level felony charge attached, that puts these people behind bars for ten years.
Peaceful demonstration is one thing, but the destruction of property is another. Time to arrest and throw looters in prison too for five + years. And they must pay restitution for their thievery. And the time is long overdue to address the theft of people homes. Anyone stealing property valued at $100,000 or greater should face a capital outcome. We hung people for stealing a loaf of bread not that long ago. The theft of a family home, which is happening should have serious consequences.
We must end the Diversified Visa Program, which is bringing in large numbers of muslims from hostile nations. Iran year in, year out leads the numbers for a country with Greencard Lottery recipients. This is crazy. Again, we must have a well designed immigration program and sh*t can the existing programs.
Culturally, we need to create a national law that makes it a capital crime if a police officer is murdered. Too many are dying because we have weak laws. I want teeth in criminal laws.
Addendum
Also paramount, is the establishment of TERM LIMITS IN CONGRESS> Nothing much changes until this happens. Too many lifers holding seats, and doing next to nothing.
Also, end the counting of illegal invaders being included in determining congressional districts.
Establish an amendment to the Constitution that restricts those that are NOT citizens from voting. Illegal aliens voting dilutes those that have a true right to the franchise.
End the right to citizenship because you were born in the USA. In order to receive USA citizenship, you must have a parent that is a USA citizen. PERIOD!!!
Change requirements for running for POTUS AND VPOTUS. 35 years of age is not old enough, and that and being born in the USA is idiotic. More requirements should be established, like run a business or government entity with more than 10,000 employees. (Pick a bigger number if you want). There is not one 35 year old in the USA I would vote for. NOT one.
And I could go on, but I have to run to a meeting.
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Frankly, many of us have made suggestions repeatedly on these boards regarding all your questions. But here is my thoughts to your questions.
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
American sovereignty is paramount to me. PARAMOUNT. I consider every globalist in the USA a traitor. Addressing this fact is just as important as addressing the illegal invaders flooding into the USA. Hang the globalist traitors, every last one of them, and close the border until Congress writes legislation with teeth that control our borders completely. Deport EVERY ILLEGAL INVADING ALIEN, including the young people Obama opened the door to, the acronym escapes me.
Establish a law that indicates the only refugees into America come via application at one of our embassies, and NOT at our border.
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
COVID response opened the floodgate for denying our rights as Americans. New policies must be established regarding pandemics and other catastrophic events. The COVID pandemic proved absolutely that organizations like the CDC and NIH were NOT prepared to address such an outbreak. Both these organizations, as well as most other federal branches of government are grossly overstaffed. If Trump were smart, he would put a hiring freeze in place for every federal agency with the exception of military branches. No one need be terminated, but as folks retire, leave, die, etc, they are NOT replaced until there is a goal met. I suggest a 30% reduction in budget and numbers of folks staffing our government. Once both conditions are met, then hiring can be opened up for positions that are vacated. Also, end all contractors working for the government within six months of Trump taking office. I know for fact that the contractors do the work while the employees sit back doing very little in the way of work. End that nonsense now!
Establish rules regarding censorship for tech companies, rules that LIMIT their ability to censor anything. Exceptions would be for porno, graphic presentations of people being harmed, etc. But the verbal expression of thought should be excluded. PERIOD!!!
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
I think I made myself clear above. Until we make supporting globalism a capital crime, the erosion of our sovereignty will continue. I say indict, convict, and dispatch every last globalist at sunrise the following day upon conviction. WE need to get smart about those out to destroy this nation. Freedom is one thing, but we have become a very dumb nation regarding treason. Redefine treason and put real teeth to the consequences. Guilty of treason, death is the ONLY outsome. Again, in a country with a population marching to 400 million, we can afford to eliminate every last globalist, and not skip a beat.
4. Equity vs. equality,
Equity is slowly dying. We absolutely must have a system based on merit, or we continue our march to become exactly like soviet Russia, where people are NOT productive. We become silent, our vote doesn't matter because elections are fixed, etc.
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
We have military in 140+ nations. I say our allies step up, or we decide who are our true allies, and we get smart about our influence throughout the world. I would not be opposed to reducing our presence in some of these countries.
6. Energy independence,
Pure energy independence with a vengeance. What Biden and the Democommies have done is criminal, and absolutely insane. I do not believe in the climate change nonsense. And it makes no sense the USA make policy along this line while China and India are going full tilt to destroy the environment. Makes no sense.
EVs will not make it. PERIOD!!! They are not competitive. When the day arrives when the government does not subsidize the purchase of EVs, their sales end. Most EVs are being leased, not bought. When manufacturers get the cars back off lease, they ship them overseas and sell them like new cars. Check your used car lots. It is rare even now to see a used EV on used car lots. After forcing that crap as Biden has done, the sales are still single digit. Most are leased and shipped out of the USA when they come off lease. What will half the population do when there are no used cars available, and that is all they can afford? Walk to work? Yeah, right!!! The UGLY TRUTH is that EVs are choking a part of our markets, that being the used car market. If EVs ever got to massive sales, we would NOT have the electric available to charge them daily. The grid cannot support the use requirements now let alone tens of millions of vehicles being charged daily.
And you want to compromise our military, have them use EVs only. Hours to recharge a vehicle versus minutes to refuel a combustion engine. Get real, these Democommies are total idiots.
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
We need sanity returned to the classroom. It should be a felony for any teacher, admin, or any support person at our schools to encourage children to consider transgender anything. I consider what is going on worse than pedophilia. And talk about rights, I think it is time for our Congress to add a new right for parents. Parents should have absolute rights to guide their children, and no one else. PERIOD!!! Otherwise, again we are approaching children as they were treated during the soviet era in Russia, where the state has control, and that is where we are right now in the USA. Talk about dark times ahead, sit back and allow that nonsense to establish further and we are indeed in deep trouble as a society.
Reading Bret Baier's book on Ulysses S. Grant (a great read), I did not realize the woke morons tore down a statue of Grant in the USA. When you consider his history, these people need to pay restitution for the damage they caused. This woke idiocy must be labeled anarchy behavior, and must have a serious level felony charge attached, that puts these people behind bars for ten years.
Peaceful demonstration is one thing, but the destruction of property is another. Time to arrest and throw looters in prison too for five + years. And they must pay restitution for their thievery. And the time is long overdue to address the theft of people homes. Anyone stealing property valued at $100,000 or greater should face a capital outcome. We hung people for stealing a loaf of bread not that long ago. The theft of a family home, which is happening should have serious consequences.
We must end the Diversified Visa Program, which is bringing in large numbers of muslims from hostile nations. Iran year in, year out leads the numbers for a country with Greencard Lottery recipients. This is crazy. Again, we must have a well designed immigration program and sh*t can the existing programs.
Culturally, we need to create a national law that makes it a capital crime if a police officer is murdered. Too many are dying because we have weak laws. I want teeth in criminal laws.
Addendum
Also paramount, is the establishment of TERM LIMITS IN CONGRESS> Nothing much changes until this happens. Too many lifers holding seats, and doing next to nothing.
Also, end the counting of illegal invaders being included in determining congressional districts.
Establish an amendment to the Constitution that restricts those that are NOT citizens from voting. Illegal aliens voting dilutes those that have a true right to the franchise.
End the right to citizenship because you were born in the USA. In order to receive USA citizenship, you must have a parent that is a USA citizen. PERIOD!!!
Change requirements for running for POTUS AND VPOTUS. 35 years of age is not old enough, and that and being born in the USA is idiotic. More requirements should be established, like run a business or government entity with more than 10,000 employees. (Pick a bigger number if you want). There is not one 35 year old in the USA I would vote for. NOT one.
And I could go on, but I have to run to a meeting.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Except for the term limits part. IF I ever again find a person who will serve his constituents instead of himself, I damned sure don't want him term limited.
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No. Because it's bullcrap. History attests his deportation rates were similar to Obama.
Actually, Obama did better than Trump in his first four years despite Trump making the same promise of deportations in 2016 as he’s making now
As a presidential candidate in 2016, Trump promised to deport every immigrant living in the U.S. illegally (then estimated to be 11 million people). He failed to do so, earning him a Promise Broken on PolitiFact’s Trump-O-Meter promise tracker.
But did Trump deport fewer people than Obama? There are different deportation metrics, and Obama surpassed Trump’s numbers in each one. Immigrant rights advocates had dubbed Obama the "deporter-in-chief" by the time he left office in 2017.
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2024/01/07/politifact-obama-deported-more-people-than-trump-did/72120774007/
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No. Because it's bullcrap. History attests his deportation rates were similar to Obama.
FAFO mode
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Austin American Statesman!
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Austin American Statesman!
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
And this folks is a common reaction to when people can’t dispute the facts, they attack the source
Those stats are verified all around but if you have something that counters that feel free to post it
And here’s just a few others that verify that statistic
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/06/12/deportations-of-undocumented-immigrants-are-at-a-record-low
https://www.cato.org/blog/deportation-rates-historical-perspective
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And this folks is a common reaction to when people can’t dispute the facts, they attack the source
Those stats are verified all around but if you have something that counters that feel free to post it
Figures don't lie but liars sure can figure!
PS Thankfully, I can't see your article
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Figures don't lie but liars sure can figure!
Again, if you have something that counters the claim that Barack Obama deported more people in his first four years than Donald Trump did, despite Donald Trump, promising record deportations, post them
Otherwise, admit defeat and move on
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PS Thankfully, I can't see your article[/size]
Wait a minute
You laughed at an article that claimed Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump, yet you admit you didn’t read it….. typical
Whether you accepted or not is irrelevant, but the fact is Barack Obama did deport more people than Donald Trump. Not that big of a deal except Donald Trump made the promise of mass deportation in 2016 and he’s promising it again.
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Wait a minute
You laughed at an article that claimed Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump, yet you admit you didn’t read it….. typical
Down here we call that rag Pravda on the Colorado. No need to read it to know what's in it (100% Communist propaganda). Just on general principle I tend to believe the opposite of ANYTHING said therein.
The same goes for most corporate owned ad papers these days.
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Down here we call that rag Pravda on the Colorado. No need to read it to know what's in it. Just on general principle I tend to believe the opposite of ANYTHING said therein.
I have a hunch you’ve never heard of that publication until now, but that’s an argument for a different day. I’m not arguing about whether or not you like a particular publication. The fact is Donald Trump deported less people than Barack Obama did during the four-year time. That’s verified by multiple sources. Again, show me where that claim is wrong
You don’t have anything to counter the claim? Fair enough.
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I have a hunch you’ve never heard of that publication until now, but that’s an argument for a different day. I’m not arguing about whether or not you like a particular publication. The fact is Donald Trump deported less people than Barack Obama did during the four-year time. That’s verified by multiple sources. Again, show me where that claim is wrong
You don’t have anything to counter the claim? Fair enough.
Leftists have to rewrite not only history, but economics and reality in general
All three are in violation of their worldview
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,528605.msg2997101.html#msg2997101
Yet here you are citing the most leftist rag I know of because it comports with what you already believe.
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Here’s another. Some will just attack the source and dismiss it but I’m posting this for others to peruse.
President Removals Removals Per Year Political Party Years in Office
Benjamin Harrison 2,801 2,801 Republican 1
Grover Cleveland 9,069 2,267 Democrat 4
William McKinley 17,642 3,528 Republican 5
Theodore Roosevelt 76,390 10,913 Republican 7
William H. Taft 83,150 20,788 Republican 4
Woodrow Wilson 162,371 20,296 Democrat 8
Warren G. Harding 60,652 20,217 Republican 3
Calvin Coolidge 164,913 32,983 Republican 5
Herbert Hoover 110,275 27,569 Republican 4
Franklin D. Roosevelt 171,939 13,226 Democrat 13
Harry S. Truman 140,553 20,079 Democrat 7
Dwight D. Eisenhower 110,019 13,752 Republican 8
John F. Kennedy 23,969 7,990 Democrat 3
Lyndon B. Johnson 48,737 9,747 Democrat 5
Richard M. Nixon 81,022 16,204 Republican 5
Gerald R. Ford 82,316 27,439 Republican 3
Jimmy Carter 105,378 26,345 Democrat 4
Ronald Reagan 168,364 21,046 Republican 8
George Bush 141,326 35,332 Republican 4
Bill Clinton 869,646 108,706 Democrat 8
George W. Bush 2,012,539 251,567 Republican 8
Barack Obama 3,066,457 383,307 Democrat 8
Donald J. Trump 551,449 275,725 Republican 2
https://www.cato.org/blog/deportation-rates-historical-perspective
How long until the Cato Institute is dismissed as a leftist organization
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Yet here you are citing the most leftist rag I know of because it comports with what you already believe.
Ok last time. Post something that counters the claim, and I’ll happily read it.
And the link was the first one I came to, although I have check the veracity of the claim made with other sources, and I posted other links for your reading pleasure
Several posts made by you attacking a source, but nothing to counter it. You see this with many of Trump supporters. Record and reality will not get in the way of the idealized view they have.
Why do you think Barack Obama got the nickname of “deporter in chief” from even many of those who supported him otherwise?
Simply dismissing a source of information that you don’t like, but unable to counter it, is one of the weakest ways to argue a point. Liberals do this a lot when it comes to Fox News.
Only accepting information that comports with one’s worldview is one of the biggest problems IMO facing this country when it comes to accepting and receiving information
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https://twitter.com/Synchro2021/status/1775259755571036541
I support it wholeheartedly. But it ain't gonna happen. The first picture the media shows of a crying illegal child, it's all over.
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Never-Trumpers fan out to bolster Biden’s ‘blue wall’ (https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,528633.msg2997316.html#msg2997316)
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Ok last time. Post something that counters the claim, and I’ll happily read it.
And the link was the first one I came to, although I have check the veracity of the claim made with other sources, and I posted other links for your reading pleasure
Several posts made by you attacking a source, but nothing to counter it. You see this with many of Trump supporters. Record and reality will not get in the way of the idealized view they have.
Why do you think Barack Obama got the nickname of “deporter in chief” from even many of those who supported him otherwise?
Simply dismissing a source of information that you don’t like, but unable to counter it, is one of the weakest ways to argue a point. Liberals do this a lot when it comes to Fox News.
I've said many times that republicans want the illegals here every bit as much as democrats do. Their COC masters demand it!
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Actually, Obama did better than Trump in his first four years despite Trump making the same promise of deportations in 2016 as he’s making now
As a presidential candidate in 2016, Trump promised to deport every immigrant living in the U.S. illegally (then estimated to be 11 million people). He failed to do so, earning him a Promise Broken on PolitiFact’s Trump-O-Meter promise tracker.
But did Trump deport fewer people than Obama? There are different deportation metrics, and Obama surpassed Trump’s numbers in each one. Immigrant rights advocates had dubbed Obama the "deporter-in-chief" by the time he left office in 2017.
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2024/01/07/politifact-obama-deported-more-people-than-trump-did/72120774007/
Depends on how you count them.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/13/politics/obama-trump-deportations-illegal-immigration/index.html
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I've said many times that republicans want the illegals here every bit as much as democrats do. Their COC masters demand it!
Absofrigginlutely!! They are making $$ off of them as well.
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I think that most of us agree that there isn't going to be any GOP landslide in November.
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It doesn't nullify the fact that Trump trounced on two very conservative candidate who could have changed things.
This is so silly @libertybele If a candidate cannot win against Trump, he isn't going to win against lawfare and the fascist democrats. Thanks to Trump, the conservative reputation dodged two bullets. This should please you.
Trump failed at the very issue that he won the presidency on building a wall and stopping ILLEGAL immigration. Where are we at now because of his failed policies
IMO, you could not be more wrong if you tried. Denied funding for the wall by Republicans, Trump moved onto creative funding and was able to build over 450 miles of the wall, to the specifications requested by ICE, including electronic surveillance and paved roads for quicker response time.
Trump created and signed "Remain in Mexico", ending catch and release and negotiated with Mexico to provide military at its Southern border to stop the influx of illegals into Mexico.
Trump further negotiated and signed agreements with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras requiring migrants on their way to the US to apply for protections in those countries first. If they fail to do so, US immigration authorities would them back to those countries. The US began sending back illegals back to these countries in Nov 2019.
Mark Levin
@marklevinshow
This says it all
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1:55 PM · Apr 2, 2024
He had a super majority for two years!
Check your notes on this claim. The reality is President Trump never had a Republican majority on immigration in Congress --- super or otherwise. And yet, he performed miracles and kept his promises to secure the borderl
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Frankly, many of us have made suggestions repeatedly on these boards regarding all your questions. But here is my thoughts to your questions.
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration,
American sovereignty is paramount to me. PARAMOUNT. I consider every globalist in the USA a traitor. Addressing this fact is just as important as addressing the illegal invaders flooding into the USA. Hang the globalist traitors, every last one of them, and close the border until Congress writes legislation with teeth that control our borders completely. Deport EVERY ILLEGAL INVADING ALIEN, including the young people Obama opened the door to, the acronym escapes me.
Establish a law that indicates the only refugees into America come via application at one of our embassies, and NOT at our border.
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments,
COVID response opened the floodgate for denying our rights as Americans. New policies must be established regarding pandemics and other catastrophic events. The COVID pandemic proved absolutely that organizations like the CDC and NIH were NOT prepared to address such an outbreak. Both these organizations, as well as most other federal branches of government are grossly overstaffed. If Trump were smart, he would put a hiring freeze in place for every federal agency with the exception of military branches. No one need be terminated, but as folks retire, leave, die, etc, they are NOT replaced until there is a goal met. I suggest a 30% reduction in budget and numbers of folks staffing our government. Once both conditions are met, then hiring can be opened up for positions that are vacated. Also, end all contractors working for the government within six months of Trump taking office. I know for fact that the contractors do the work while the employees sit back doing very little in the way of work. End that nonsense now!
Establish rules regarding censorship for tech companies, rules that LIMIT their ability to censor anything. Exceptions would be for porno, graphic presentations of people being harmed, etc. But the verbal expression of thought should be excluded. PERIOD!!!
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence,
I think I made myself clear above. Until we make supporting globalism a capital crime, the erosion of our sovereignty will continue. I say indict, convict, and dispatch every last globalist at sunrise the following day upon conviction. WE need to get smart about those out to destroy this nation. Freedom is one thing, but we have become a very dumb nation regarding treason. Redefine treason and put real teeth to the consequences. Guilty of treason, death is the ONLY outsome. Again, in a country with a population marching to 400 million, we can afford to eliminate every last globalist, and not skip a beat.
4. Equity vs. equality,
Equity is slowly dying. We absolutely must have a system based on merit, or we continue our march to become exactly like soviet Russia, where people are NOT productive. We become silent, our vote doesn't matter because elections are fixed, etc.
5. Military spending, training and qualifications,
We have military in 140+ nations. I say our allies step up, or we decide who are our true allies, and we get smart about our influence throughout the world. I would not be opposed to reducing our presence in some of these countries.
6. Energy independence,
Pure energy independence with a vengeance. What Biden and the Democommies have done is criminal, and absolutely insane. I do not believe in the climate change nonsense. And it makes no sense the USA make policy along this line while China and India are going full tilt to destroy the environment. Makes no sense.
EVs will not make it. PERIOD!!! They are not competitive. When the day arrives when the government does not subsidize the purchase of EVs, their sales end. Most EVs are being leased, not bought. When manufacturers get the cars back off lease, they ship them overseas and sell them like new cars. Check your used car lots. It is rare even now to see a used EV on used car lots. After forcing that crap as Biden has done, the sales are still single digit. Most are leased and shipped out of the USA when they come off lease. What will half the population do when there are no used cars available, and that is all they can afford? Walk to work? Yeah, right!!! The UGLY TRUTH is that EVs are choking a part of our markets, that being the used car market. If EVs ever got to massive sales, we would NOT have the electric available to charge them daily. The grid cannot support the use requirements now let alone tens of millions of vehicles being charged daily.
And you want to compromise our military, have them use EVs only. Hours to recharge a vehicle versus minutes to refuel a combustion engine. Get real, these Democommies are total idiots.
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
We need sanity returned to the classroom. It should be a felony for any teacher, admin, or any support person at our schools to encourage children to consider transgender anything. I consider what is going on worse than pedophilia. And talk about rights, I think it is time for our Congress to add a new right for parents. Parents should have absolute rights to guide their children, and no one else. PERIOD!!! Otherwise, again we are approaching children as they were treated during the soviet era in Russia, where the state has control, and that is where we are right now in the USA. Talk about dark times ahead, sit back and allow that nonsense to establish further and we are indeed in deep trouble as a society.
Reading Bret Baier's book on Ulysses S. Grant (a great read), I did not realize the woke morons tore down a statue of Grant in the USA. When you consider his history, these people need to pay restitution for the damage they caused. This woke idiocy must be labeled anarchy behavior, and must have a serious level felony charge attached, that puts these people behind bars for ten years.
Peaceful demonstration is one thing, but the destruction of property is another. Time to arrest and throw looters in prison too for five + years. And they must pay restitution for their thievery. And the time is long overdue to address the theft of people homes. Anyone stealing property valued at $100,000 or greater should face a capital outcome. We hung people for stealing a loaf of bread not that long ago. The theft of a family home, which is happening should have serious consequences.
We must end the Diversified Visa Program, which is bringing in large numbers of muslims from hostile nations. Iran year in, year out leads the numbers for a country with Greencard Lottery recipients. This is crazy. Again, we must have a well designed immigration program and sh*t can the existing programs.
Culturally, we need to create a national law that makes it a capital crime if a police officer is murdered. Too many are dying because we have weak laws. I want teeth in criminal laws.
Addendum
Also paramount, is the establishment of TERM LIMITS IN CONGRESS> Nothing much changes until this happens. Too many lifers holding seats, and doing next to nothing.
Also, end the counting of illegal invaders being included in determining congressional districts.
Establish an amendment to the Constitution that restricts those that are NOT citizens from voting. Illegal aliens voting dilutes those that have a true right to the franchise.
End the right to citizenship because you were born in the USA. In order to receive USA citizenship, you must have a parent that is a USA citizen. PERIOD!!!
Change requirements for running for POTUS AND VPOTUS. 35 years of age is not old enough, and that and being born in the USA is idiotic. More requirements should be established, like run a business or government entity with more than 10,000 employees. (Pick a bigger number if you want). There is not one 35 year old in the USA I would vote for. NOT one.
And I could go on, but I have to run to a meeting.
Excellent @jafo2010 --- and thank you. I need a little time to digest this, and will post my thoughts a little later.
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https://twitter.com/Synchro2021/status/1775259755571036541
I sure do! :thumbsup:
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This is so silly @libertybele If a candidate cannot win against Trump, he isn't going to win against lawfare and the fascist democrats. Thanks to Trump, the conservative reputation dodged two bullets. This should please you.
IMO, you could not be more wrong if you tried. Denied funding for the wall by Republicans, Trump moved onto creative funding and was able to build over 450 miles of the wall, to the specifications requested by ICE, including electronic surveillance and paved roads for quicker response time.
Trump created and signed "Remain in Mexico", ending catch and release and negotiated with Mexico to provide military at its Southern border to stop the influx of illegals into Mexico.
Trump further negotiated and signed agreements with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras requiring migrants on their way to the US to apply for protections in those countries first. If they fail to do so, US immigration authorities would them back to those countries. The US began sending back illegals back to these countries in Nov 2019.
Check your notes on this claim. The reality is President Trump never had a Republican majority on immigration in Congress --- super or otherwise. And yet, he performed miracles and kept his promises to secure the borderl
Again, none of his policies took hold, those 400 miles of border wall were not new but mostly replacements and repairs. Check again, Trump had a GOP majority in both Houses for two years. If he couldn't get what he needed to get done with a super majority then he failed miserably at his own 'art of the deal, and caved to the DEMS.
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Yes, by all means, deport every last illegal invading alien.
Also put laws in lace that if they enter the USA again illegally, are caught, they serve a minimum of three years in prison, no early out, and then are deported. If they come back again, the term is doubled to 6 years, no early out. 3rd time, 10 years. Perhaps eventually they will get the idea they are NOT welcome.
Broaden the treason definition to executives who fail to carry out the laws as established by Congress. The penalty is immediate removal from office, at a minimum.
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Great. Then you should have no problem defining the full conservative position. How would a "true conservative" handle these issues (specifics would be helpful) ----
1. American sovereignty vs. illegal immigration
Stop handing out free shit to illegals from money taken from Americans.
2. The erasure of American individual freedoms by overbearing Federal, state and local governments
Cut spending. Balance the budget. Place strict limitations federal, state, and local governments by cutting off the very thing that empowers them.
3. Encroaching globalism and its suffocation of personal self-determination and market independence
Globalism doesn't suffocate personal self-determination. Government does.
4. Equity vs. equality
Uphold equal protection. Stop giving out free shit.
5. Military spending, training and qualifications
Set our defense budget at 6% of GDP. The remainder at 12%.
6. Energy independence
Cheap energy is more important than energy independence. Get government the hell out of the way.
7. The preservation of the American legacy and inheritance, including in the government, education curriculum and the courts.
Balance the budget. Stop allowing government to live beyond its means. America's legacy and inheritance isn't built upon government.
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Yes, by all means, deport every last illegal invading alien.
But only after they've completed their prison sentences for entering the country illegally.
Also put laws in lace that if they enter the USA again illegally, are caught, they serve a minimum of three years in prison, no early out, and then are deported.
The current law is 2 years.
Broaden the treason definition to executives who fail to carry out the laws as established by Congress. The penalty is immediate removal from office, at a minimum.
The penalty for treason is death by hanging. Let's not sugar coat it. Basically, we just need to enforce the laws already on the books. Unfortunately, a spirit of lawlessness plagues our land.
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American Lawyer
@Synchro2021
Do you support President Trump's stated goal of beginning "the largest domestic deportation operation in the history of our country?"
YES or NO?
Do you support candidate Trump's stated goal of deporting all illegals, and then fast-tracking them right back in as 'legal' immigrants?
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If he couldn't get what he needed to get done with a super majority then he failed miserably at his own 'art of the deal, and caved to the DEMS.
Again, President Trump did not have a Republican majority, super or otherwise, on immigration in Congress. He didn't cave to anyone; he went on to negotiate with foreign countries sidestepping the Republicans in Congress. . He secured our borders in spite of them.
Newsflash, @libertybele the majority of Republicans in Congress still support illegal immigration,. It's how Biden's gotten away with doing this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKLZlZ0XcAAnxiM?format=jpg&name=small)
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Again, President Trump did not have a Republican majority, super or otherwise, on immigration in Congress.
So what? Congress doesn't run the Executive Branch.
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So what? Congress doesn't run the Executive Branch.
I was addressing a concern expressed by @libertybele
But, you're right @Hoodat ---- which is why Trump went on to secure the border without relying on Congress.
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I was addressing a concern expressed by @libertybele
But, you're right @Hoodat ---- which is why Trump went on to secure the border without relying on Congress.
By deporting less people than Obama, and not building a wall.
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By deporting less people than Obama, and not building a wall.
Denied funding for the wall by Republicans, Trump moved onto creative funding and was able to build over 450 miles of the wall, to the specifications requested by ICE, including electronic surveillance and paved roads for quicker response time.
Trump also focused on keeping illegals out to begin with --- he created and signed "Remain in Mexico", ending catch and release, and negotiated with Mexico to provide military, at their expense, at its Southern border to stop the influx of illegals into Mexico, preventing them from moving on to the US.
Trump further negotiated and signed agreements with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras requiring migrants on their way to the US to apply for protections in those countries first. If they failed to do so, US immigration authorities would send them back to those countries. The US began sending back illegals back to these countries in Nov 2019.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKLZlZ0XcAAnxiM?format=jpg&name=small)
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By deporting less people than Obama, and not building a wall.
He’s making the same promise regarding deportations as he did in 2016 that fell short then and will again if re-elected. Either he’s forgotten that he made that same promise in 2016, or he’s hoping his base has forgotten he’s made that promise.
And, as we have seen how quickly he change his positions for cash, let’s hope that any illegal immigration advocacy groups don’t donate to his campaign.
However, Trump was much better on the border than Biden. It’s the one issue, if not the only one, were he has a major advantage on over Biden. Biden’s incompetence has ushered in a migrant crisis the likes Ive never seen in my lifetime. I think they were hoping these border crossers would come in and they could quietly slip them into swing districts, but it’s falling apart on them
Now, the administration and their allies are trying to pin the border crisis on Trump and nobody’s buying it
The only thing we need to do is enforce the laws already on the books and cut off the financial incentives to cross. And this cities and states that insist on violating the law and declaring themselves “Sanctuary Cities/States,” no federal funds
If, by some miracle, Trump wins, it’ll be over this issue
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Again, President Trump did not have a Republican majority, super or otherwise, on immigration in Congress. He didn't cave to anyone; he went on to negotiate with foreign countries sidestepping the Republicans in Congress. . He secured our borders in spite of them.
Newsflash, @libertybele the majority of Republicans in Congress still support illegal immigration,. It's how Biden's gotten away with doing this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKLZlZ0XcAAnxiM?format=jpg&name=small)
In a nutshell you keep saying majority on immigration -- that is not what I am referring to. What I am referring to is that he did indeed have a majority in both the House and Senate. Why couldn't he achieve what was needed with his own party; why couldn't he get them to back him? Where was his self-proclaimed "Art of the Deal"?
Funny - you have pointed out that DeSantis has a GOP majority and that is why he is accomplishing what he has; yet Trump had a GOP majority and you cry foul. He had a GOP majority in both Houses for 2 years. Trump failed. His policies failed as most of them are non-existent.
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He’s making the same promise regarding deportations as he did in 2016 that fell short then and will again if re-elected. Either he’s forgotten that he made that same promise in 2016, or he’s hoping his base has forgotten he’s made that promise.
And, as we have seen how quickly he change his positions for cash, let’s hope that any illegal immigration advocacy groups don’t donate to his campaign.
However, Trump was much better on the border than Biden. It’s the one issue, if not the only one, were he has a major advantage on over Biden. Biden’s incompetence has ushered in a migrant crisis the likes Ive never seen in my lifetime. I think they were hoping these border crossers would come in and they could quietly slip them into swing districts, but it’s falling apart on them
Now, the administration and their allies are trying to pin the border crisis on Trump and nobody’s buying it
The only thing we need to do is enforce the laws already on the books and cut off the financial incentives to cross. And this cities and states that insist on violating the law and declaring themselves “Sanctuary Cities/States,” no federal funds
If, by some miracle, Trump wins, it’ll be over this issue
Trump's own website mentions limited deportations and allowing those to stay on merit. Give me a break -- he's not going to have the mass deportations that he claims. What Trump says and does are usually two different things.
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Trump's own website mentions limited deportations and allowing those to stay on merit. Give me a break -- he's not going to have the mass deportations that he claims. What Trump says and does are usually two different things.
Despite the bill of goods we were sold, Trump is every inch a politician, making promises he knows his base will gobble up but that he for the most part will never deliver on. You will never again see an "Operation Wetback" in America and everyone including Trump knows it.
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In a nutshell you keep saying majority on immigration -- that is not what I am referring to. What I am referring to is that he did indeed have a majority in both the House and Senate. Why couldn't he achieve what was needed with his own party; why couldn't he get them to back him? Where was his self-proclaimed "Art of the Deal"?
Because most members of his "republican" majority were, and still are, vastly more committed to preserving their swamp than they are to ANYTHING else. That's the sum total of it in one sentence @libertybele
Funny - you have pointed out that DeSantis has a GOP majority and that is why he is accomplishing what he has; yet Trump had a GOP majority and you cry foul. He had a GOP majority in both Houses for 2 years. Trump failed. His policies failed as most of them are non-existent.
It wasn't Trump that failed it was the jackasses we sent to Washington with him that failed us (See Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan).
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Because most members of his "republican" majority were, and still are, vastly more committed to preserving their swamp than they are to ANYTHING else. That's the sum total of it in one sentence @libertybele
It wasn't Trump that failed it was the jackasses we sent to Washington with him that failed us (See Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan).
I'm aware of the jackasses in Washington and Trump's battle with them. However, the fact still remains that he waited until the last minute before the new DEM congress was to be sworn in to being talks surrounding $$ for a border wall. Cruz pleaded with him several times to get that ball rolling long before the new congress was to be sworn in. Pelosi then became leader and an even bigger battle needed to be fought. His delaying and procrastination on achieving what he promised to do caused his failure. One of the biggest issues is that he failed to calm the riots as promised (with bible in hand). They called his bluff and we are still experiencing the aftermath.
He wasn't the 'great negotiator' that he claimed to be.
None of his policies took hold as Biden overturned them -- as a result the border is a complete and absolute disaster.
As far as the swamp goes; obviously he didn't drain it.
All in all yes, certainly the 4 years of Trump were better than what we have now. However, he once again he went after a strong conservative, and he did so even before he announced his decision to run. His age and his focus on retribution are what have me concerned. Conservatives are in for the fight of their lives, yet he decides to smear them. No thank you. Perhaps even more concerning is his VP list. Gabbard? Vivek? Two candidates that I will not get behind. One is liberal and the other is a snake salesman. Selling and endorsing bibles?? No thanks. I'm still not close to holding my nose and voting for him.
Even IF he somehow is seated in the WH, he will be faced with the same situations which are more dire than when he took office previously. I foresee him becoming more liberal as he has absolutely no incentives now to head more right of center.
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Trump's own website mentions limited deportations and allowing those to stay on merit. Give me a break -- he's not going to have the mass deportations that he claims. What Trump says and does are usually two different things.
pointing-up :yowsa: There it is. Right there.
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Because most members of his "republican" majority were, and still are, vastly more committed to preserving their swamp than they are to ANYTHING else. That's the sum total of it in one sentence @libertybele
It wasn't Trump that failed it was the jackasses we sent to Washington with him that failed us (See Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan).
Excuses. Blame shifting.
The whole job is gathering together a coalition to move the country forward.
That's what a president does.
That's the job.
He failed miserably. Utterly.
For all his braggadocios bullcrap, he couldn't pull it off.
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Trump has worked his entire adult life with the Chamber of Commerce, as has most politicians. Therein lies the problem.
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Trump has worked his entire adult life with the Chamber of Commerce, as has most politicians. Therein lies the problem.
People might forget about the (infamous) Kelo vs Connecticut case where a city in that state was allowed to force many people out of their homes for private industry. Trump sided with the city.
Eminent Domain is supposed to be for the public and not a private entity. Trump thought otherwise probably because he would like to do something like that himself to make money.
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People might forget about the (infamous) Kelo vs Connecticut case where a city in that state was allowed to force many people out of their homes for private industry. Trump sided with the city.
Eminent Domain is supposed to be for the public and not a private entity. Trump thought otherwise probably because he would like to do something like that himself to make money.
There is a difference between the idealized version that many of his supporters have versus the reality
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Trump's own website mentions limited deportations and allowing those to stay on merit. Give me a break -- he's not going to have the mass deportations that he claims. What Trump says and does are usually two different things.
@libertybele
Where are you seeing anything about limited deportations on his website? I did see something about the merit issue but I can’t find anything mentioning limited deportations.
I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m just having trouble finding it.
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@libertybele
Where are you seeing anything about limited deportations on his website? I did see something about the merit issue but I can’t find anything mentioning limited deportations.
I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m just having trouble finding it.
@LMAO It does not specifically say mass deportations as he has stated either, but it does mention President Trump will deputize the National Guard and local law enforcement to assist with rapidly removing illegal alien gang members and criminals. I'm interpreting it to be limited to gang member and criminals as it goes on to mention merit based.
I found his website to be very vague.
At one of his rallies:
Trump reportedly plans to implement an even more extreme anti-immigration agenda in a potential second term, including mass deportations and sending undocumented people to detention camps.
If reelected, Trump told his supporters in Green Bay, “We’re going to end up with the largest deportation in America.”.............
So, is he going to deport or is he going to send people to detention camps? How is he going to accomplish this objective??? Does he not foresee that there will be any roadblocks?
I don't trust a whole lot of what he says.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mockery-floods-trump-botches-deport-173112158.html
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Denied funding for the wall by Republicans, Trump moved onto creative funding and was able to build over 450 miles of the wall, to the specifications requested by ICE, including electronic surveillance and paved roads for quicker response time.
Fifteen miles of new wall in four years.
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Fifteen miles of new wall in four years.
Every little bit counts... :silly: