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Briefing Room Polls (Guests Welcome!) => The Briefingroom Polls => Topic started by: corbe on April 29, 2020, 08:58:11 pm
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Just gauging the GOP/Trump Love around here, which is obviously very strong.
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Just gauging the GOP/Trump Love around here, which is obviously very strong.
100.00% Conservative. Nothing else.
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100.00% Conservative. Nothing else.
When did you last know of a non-GOP candidate, that was a) 100.00% Conservative.
and b) had a realistic chance of winning?
I contend there are precisely none these days
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Granted it's in the past @truth_seeker but here's two that the GOP rejected in 1976 and 2016, respectively.
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Granted it's in the past @truth_seeker but here's two that the GOP rejected in 1976 and 2016, respectively.
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So what?
I like Cruz plenty, but I doubt he is electable for President, since the country is not nearly as conservative as he is.
You know he has his own podcast "Verdict", with Michael Knowls of Ben Shapiro's group.
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When did you last know of a non-GOP candidate, that was a) 100.00% Conservative.
and b) had a realistic chance of winning?
I contend there are precisely none these days
The 100% conservative is the easy part. Getting the GOP behind someone like that is not happening. They couldn't wait to attack Roy Moore, for instance, even beat the press to the punch in dropping him from their support.
When people stick to the Constitution, they aren't giving that wiggle room that makes for lucrative cumshaw and baksheesh deals form K street, so they aren't wanted in DC, in any capacity.
That's a GOP problem, imho, and only a few gradations better than the Democrats who are only interested in staying in power and on the gravy train.
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Cruz wasn't given half a chance in 2016, between Mitch/GOP and the Media onslaught. But we'll never know now because some thought it'd be better to sit around for 4 years and watch liberal's heads explode.
Although, I'm learning how not to fear the bomb and am actually entertained by some of it.
DUMP PENCE
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Just gauging the GOP/Trump Love around here, which is obviously very strong.
(https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/seinfeld-not-that-theres-anything-wrong-with-that-gif-3.gif)
How about Kramer for President? Or George?
(Just kidding)
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Cruz wasn't given half a chance in 2016, between Mitch/GOP and the Media onslaught. But we'll never know now because some thought it'd be better to sit around for 4 years and watch liberal's heads explode.
Although, I'm learning how not to fear the bomb and am actually entertained by some of it.
DUMP PENCE
That's the spirit! I have had a ringside seat for WWIII for forty years.
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When did you last know of a non-GOP candidate, that was a) 100.00% Conservative.
and b) had a realistic chance of winning?
I contend there are precisely none these days
I thought the question was what I was, not what is available in the electorate. Check the heading.
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I take the Weed Option, and that's not on the list. Full Commie, baby!!!
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In the community I grew up in, got elected in, the Republicans are liberal and the Democrats are conservative. Hard to believe, but true. When I got elected, I was a Democrat serving on a school board with 7 of 9 members Republican, and I was the most conservative person on the board.
At a time when teachers' salaries were going up over $1 million per year, I managed to reduce property taxes by 6 mills. That was not easy to do.
So I have been a Republican for 12 years. And I just do not see conservative anything in the federal government. Trump certainly has not cut back spending at all on any level. Spend...spend...spend!!! Frankly I am tired of it.
If I had control of the budget, I would balance the budget in two weeks time of reviewing it. It is incomprehensible how we sepnd money. Many gave Trump a hard time when he demanded NATO members start paying their share, a share they agreed to pay. Germany, the richest country in Europe is only paying 50% of what they are expected to pay. That is nonsense. and on top of that, the USA provides $140 million+/- to Russia in aid. We are literally funding both sides. That makes sense!
And look where we are with China! China controls much of what is vital in the USA, things like pharma. And what has Trump done to remedy that? NOTHING! I am disappointed.
I believe in a strong military, but let's not lose our heads. The USA has 10-11 Navy aircraft carriers. Every other nation has but one. ONE! Yet we are told our military is lacking, and needs reinvestment. Uggh!!!!
We have troops on station in 140 countries. How many does China or Russia have in other countries? Does it even get into the double digits for either nation? I doubt it. America has been squandering our treasure throughout the world long enough. It is time to make it mandatory to have a balanced budget, with the sole exception being a declared war from Congress.
Attempting to create a viable third party is not practical, for there are those that are conservative and Republican that would never switch. We need to restore conservative principles to the Republican Party. And Sen Cruz is not the person to make that happen.
And then there is the issue of globalism. Both parties are completely ensconsed in this dynamic undertaking. IT IS TREASON, and those pushing it should be dispatched. Yes, that is how strongly I feel about it. When Trump leaves they will pick the baton back up and start marching to their desired outcomes. How to end it? Even a second term by Trump will NOT end it. I believe the greatest threat to the USA is globalism and the folks pushing it. I laugh every time I hear it mentioned that climate change is a threat. I will take climate change seriously when the beaches I go to are under water. They are just fine so far. I see no change.
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:thumbsup: @jafo2010 until that
Sen Cruz is not the person to make that happen
Thanks for sharing. :beer:
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In the community I grew up in, got elected in, the Republicans are liberal and the Democrats are conservative. Hard to believe, but true. When I got elected, I was a Democrat serving on a school board with 7 of 9 members Republican, and I was the most conservative person on the board.
At a time when teachers' salaries were going up over $1 million per year, I managed to reduce property taxes by 6 mills. That was not easy to do.
So I have been a Republican for 12 years. And I just do not see conservative anything in the federal government. Trump certainly has not cut back spending at all on any level. Spend...spend...spend!!! Frankly I am tired of it.
If I had control of the budget, I would balance the budget in two weeks time of reviewing it. It is incomprehensible how we sepnd money. Many gave Trump a hard time when he demanded NATO members start paying their share, a share they agreed to pay. Germany, the richest country in Europe is only paying 50% of what they are expected to pay. That is nonsense. and on top of that, the USA provides $140 million+/- to Russia in aid. We are literally funding both sides. That makes sense!
And look where we are with China! China controls much of what is vital in the USA, things like pharma. And what has Trump done to remedy that? NOTHING! I am disappointed.
I believe in a strong military, but let's not lose our heads. The USA has 10-11 Navy aircraft carriers. Every other nation has but one. ONE! Yet we are told our military is lacking, and needs reinvestment. Uggh!!!!
We have troops on station in 140 countries. How many does China or Russia have in other countries? Does it even get into the double digits for either nation? I doubt it. America has been squandering our treasure throughout the world long enough. It is time to make it mandatory to have a balanced budget, with the sole exception being a declared war from Congress.
Attempting to create a viable third party is not practical, for there are those that are conservative and Republican that would never switch. We need to restore conservative principles to the Republican Party. And Sen Cruz is not the person to make that happen.
And then there is the issue of globalism. Both parties are completely ensconsed in this dynamic undertaking. IT IS TREASON, and those pushing it should be dispatched. Yes, that is how strongly I feel about it. When Trump leaves they will pick the baton back up and start marching to their desired outcomes. How to end it? Even a second term by Trump will end it. I believe the greatest threat to the USA is globalism and the folks pushing it. I laugh every time I hear it mentioned that climate change is a threat. I will take climate change seriously when the beaches I go to are under water. They are just fine so far. I see no change.
Climates last longer than nations. Much longer.
I agree, globalism raises first the question of where you go if you don't like the way things end up. Where do you look for help to right it?
Second, my ancestors were here before there was a United States, and signed on to and fought for it as it formed. One relative was a Signer of the Declaration. I don't take their sacrifice lightly and am appalled at the travesty this nation has become in practice versus the great ideas penned by the Founders. As far as those go, they barely lasted 50 years before the Mercantile interests moved in and took over. It was those interests my ancestors rebelled against as well, seeking a peaceful dissolution of the previous compact in favor of a new one that better served their interests. The old one was imposed by force, and hasn't been followed since.
WIth time even lip service to that original intent has faded with a plethora of 'new rights' granted by courts that in no way would have fit with the best intent of any of the founders. Since Marx, the socialistic tendencies have been growing, to the detriment of the original and founding ethos, ardently imposed when possible, slipped under the door, or sugar coated and sold to the masses in times of great distress.
Which brings us to today. Distress is a perception, sometimes real, sometimes not, and this distress imho, is largely imposed with an absence of good science and hard fact and a lot of emotional hand wringing and apocalyptic claims.
We, and this Republic, are in dangerous times, indeed.
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Wrong with all due respect. You are still a democrat. I do not believe anything you wrote. You may believe what you wrote. It is as if you don't know what is going on in real life. www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)
"Trump certainly has not cut back spending at all on any level. Spend...spend...spend!!! Frankly I am tired of it."=@ jayfo2010
He cut spending before his inauguration. He returned to treasury 20% of the money allotted for new presidents to set up their cabinets etc. Just off the top of head. There is more. He has reduced regulations and removed double bureaucracy. That is saying us money. HE TAKES NO PAY. Volunteer work. 400 K or 450 K. times 4 =. almost 2 million saved. No TRUMP takes any pay for working with POTUS. BILLIONS coming in from CHINA...when before that was going out for decades. MONEY coming in by NATO delinquent accounts. DELINQUENT FOR YEARS. I had a difficult time reading your biased post. Yes, our military was down to 1915 strength. They had to get parts to repair planes from plane grave yard's. Military had to buy their own equipment under Obama. Vests, things like that.
Oh, POTUS also cut money to Pakistan and countries that hate us & use us. Democrats are known for being the spenders...NOT REPUBLICANS. All the pork put in by democrats even for SANDY HURRICANE and now the same thing by demon-rats in stimulus packages. PORK FOR MUSEUMS.... No doubt you will hate me now. Just trying to set things straight. I don't 'hate ' you. This would be a good debate. I just know, democrats ARE THE SPENDERS....not republicans. 8 years of obama & Harry Reid with no budget. Now you are disappointed. Well, we've had hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, FIRES, covid-19. Disaster after disaster.
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The 100% conservative is the easy part. Getting the GOP behind someone like that is not happening.
The role of the party is getting people eleced, not scoring points in conservaive purity.
†James Baker, Reagan’s chief of staff and later his Treasury secretary, recalled in an interview: “‘I’d rather get 80 percent of what I want than go over the cliff with my flags flying.’â€
The point is not the absolute number.
The point for political adults, is if you want "conservative" results, winning needs to take priority, versus losing to make statements.
Every Republican from Dole onward lost the populalar vote, save GWB 2nd term.
Making statements is not a productive strategy.
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In the community I grew up in, got elected in, the Republicans are liberal and the Democrats are conservative. Hard to believe, but true. When I got elected, I was a Democrat serving on a school board with 7 of 9 members Republican, and I was the most conservative person on the board.
At a time when teachers' salaries were going up over $1 million per year, I managed to reduce property taxes by 6 mills. That was not easy to do.
So I have been a Republican for 12 years. And I just do not see conservative anything in the federal government. Trump certainly has not cut back spending at all on any level. Spend...spend...spend!!!
If I had control of the budget, I would balance the budget in two weeks time of reviewing it. It is incomprehensible how we sepnd money. Many gave Trump a hard time when he demanded NATO members start paying their share, a share they agreed to pay. Germany, the richest country in Europe is only paying 50% of what they are expected to pay. That is nonsense. and on top of that, the USA provides $140 million+/- to Russia in aid. We are literally funding both sides. That makes sense!
And look where we are with China! China controls much of what is vital in the USA, things like pharma. And what has Trump done to remedy that? NOTHING! I am disappointed.
I believe in a strong military, but let's not lose our heads. The USA has 10-11 Navy aircraft carriers. Every other nation has but one. ONE! Yet we are told our military is lacking, and needs reinvestment.
We have troops on station in 140 countries. How many does China or Russia have in other countries? Does it even get into the double digits for either nation? I doubt it. America has been squandering our treasure throughout the world long enough. It is time to make it mandatory to have a balanced budget, with the sole exception being a declared war from Congress.
Attempting to create a viable third party is not practical, for there are those that are conservative and Republican that would never switch. We need to restore conservative principles to the Republican Party. And Sen Cruz is not the person to make that happen.
And then there is the issue of globalism. Both parties are completely ensconsed in this dynamic undertaking. IT IS TREASON, and those pushing it should be dispatched. Yes, that is how strongly I feel about it. When Trump leaves they will pick the baton back up and start marching to their desired outcomes. How to end it? Even a second term by Trump will end it. I believe the greatest threat to the USA is globalism and the folks pushing it. I laugh every time I hear it mentioned that climate change is a threat. I will take climate change seriously when the beaches I go to are under water. They are just fine so far. I see no change.
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Our original principled conservative party was the Agrarian Rural Democrats of the South,
which included the likes of Madison, Monroe, Rutledge, Henry, among dozens.
Sadly addicted to slavery, they were destroyed by our Civil War.
The Republicans were an anti-slavery party formed around 1850 and water boys for the
New England Merchant Class. They were the party of centralized power, trade protectionism
and judicial activism throughout their 75 year ascendancy till Hoover.
To this day they have absolutely nothing to do w/conservatism. NOT FOR A DAY!!!!!
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The role of the party is getting people eleced, not scoring points in conservaive purity.
†James Baker, Reagan’s chief of staff and later his Treasury secretary, recalled in an interview: “‘I’d rather get 80 percent of what I want than go over the cliff with my flags flying.’â€
The point is not the absolute number.
The point for political adults, is if you want "conservative" results, winning needs to take priority, versus losing to make statements.
Every Republican from Dole onward lost the populalar vote, save GWB 2nd term.
Making statements is not a productive strategy.
80% would seem like a Godsend. We haven't even been close.
Part of the problem, imho, is that the GOP hasn't fielded anyone Conservative in a while. Trump is batting about .500, and part of that problem is that the majority of the people in Congress aren't even in that league.
Unfortunately, it leaves us with people in Congress willing to pad the bejeebers out of (or allow the padding of) necessary funding legislation and hold it hostage, and the choice for POTUS is to sign it and get the funding where it arguably should go or hold it up and suffer the blame for it not being passed.
The whole system, especially the Courts and Congress, but even more the "deep state" of the labyrinthine bureaucracy, politically contaminated in every agency at every level, is, in some instances fighting against Original Intent for its very existence, because some of those agencies would be a footnote in US History if we ever returned to the Constitution.
Throw in an ignorant populace voting for their bellies, most of whom couldn't tell you 5 amendments to the Constitution, much less what the rest says, a Media which distort everything, and the Republic has been in trouble since before the last conflict.
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Democrats.
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80% would seem like a Godsend. We haven't even been close.
Part of the problem, imho, is that the GOP hasn't fielded anyone Conservative in a while. Trump is batting about .500, and part of that problem is that the majority of the people in Congress aren't even in that league.]
After GHW's first term, the GOP has won a majority of popular votes just one ime with GWBush's 2nd term.
It strikes me the most popular goal of the "conservaties" is making statements,above winning elections.
I believe that was what Reagan meant by his "80 %" remark.
People that seem pleased with Flake and Amash, join here with people thaat called Trumps supporters racists and Nazis.
That is a lot of idiocy to overcome.
Reagan was correct and even if it is 80% or 55% the principle stands.
There many people paving roads for conservatism to appeal to a type of voter, different from the Roy Moore.
Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Kanye West, Larry Elder, Joe Rogan, Dave Ruben, Jonathan Peterson, Glen Beck, among them.
Streaming video-podcasts are additive to youtube video, not replacements.
Ruben is starting an alternative addition for video, as an example. Scott Adams announced today he will use it.
Instead of bitching, claiming victimhood, some people of a Class liberalism" bent, are persuading others.
Putting it differently, "conservatism" needs to grow by persuassion, not be resting on a unsuccessful paradigm, and shrinking demographic.
I needs to adapt to the terrain as it is, not as they wish it was.
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80% would seem like a Godsend. We haven't even been close.
Part of the problem, imho, is that the GOP hasn't fielded anyone Conservative in a while. Trump is batting about .500, and part of that problem is that the majority of the people in Congress aren't even in that league.]
After GHW's first term, the GOP has won a majority of popular votes just one ime with GWBush's 2nd term.
It strikes me the most popular goal of the "conservaties" is making statements,above winning elections.
I believe that was what Reagan meant by his "80 %" remark.
People that seem pleased with Flake and Amash, join here with people thaat called Trumps supporters racists and Nazis.
That is a lot of idiocy to overcome.
Reagan was correct and even if it is 80% or 55% the principle stands.
There many people paving roads for conservatism to appeal to a type of voter, different from the Roy Moore.
Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Kanye West, Larry Elder, Joe Rogan, Dave Ruben, Jonathan Peterson, Glen Beck, among them.
Streaming video-podcasts are additive to mainstream radio, not replacements.
Ruben is starting an alternative addition for video, as an example. Scott Adams announced today he will use it.
Instead of bitching, claiming victimhood, some people of a Class liberalism" bent, are persuading others.
Sorry, that all landed in the quote box, so I had to sort it out.
Yes, there are voices calling for Conservatism, some more stringently than others.
That's good, but it has yet to overcome the good ol' boys inside the Beltway (on either side of the aisle), and that's an uphill grind all the way.
And they aren't running for office.
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Sorry, that all landed in the quote box, so I had to sort it out.
Yes, there are voices calling for Conservatism, some more stringently than others.
That's good, but it has yet to overcome the good ol' boys inside the Beltway (on either side of the aisle), and that's an uphill grind all the way.
And they aren't running for office.
I rarely consume cable TV, and I notice the OPs here are meant mainly to inflame anti-Trump above all else.
IOW I see nothing here, about growing conservatism's appeal or about winning.
OTOH I consume emerging new media, and see plenty of opportunity for conservatism.
Take three: Ruben, West and Owens.
While tradtional conservatives mostly complain, claim victimhood, Ruben is originating an alternative to youtube. He may have Silicon Valley billionaire backing.
Candace Owens is behind Blexit, and Kanye West ears a MAGA hat. Winning more black voters, means thwarting dems' certainty.
If other minorities see blacks moving, they will do so.
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I rarely consume cable TV, and I notice the OPs here are meant mainly to inflame anti-Trump above all else.
IOW I see nothing here, about growing conservatism's appeal or about winning.
OTOH I consume emerging new media, and see plenty of opportunity for conservatism.
Take three: Ruben, West and Owens.
While tradtional conservatives mostly complain, claim victimhood, Ruben is originating an alternative to youtube. He may have Silicon Valley billionaire backing.
Candace Owens is behind Blexit, and Kanye West ears a MAGA hat. Winning more black voters, means thwarting dems' certainty.
If other minorities see blacks moving, they will do so.
Candace Owens is a favorite. An alternative to YouTube will be welcome, believe me. Ruben and West are all right. We need more, but I have been working with youngsters around here to build their Conservative viewpoint. It will skip a generation, but they aren't fond of the idea of getting screwed for working hard and living within their means to pay for those who won't.
If there are any victims in the GOP< they have done it to themselves, by pandering to the lesser evil bit, and there has been a constant stream in the last 40 years of voting for the candidate to stop the other one from getting in. Reagan was an exception.
This last election, I voted for someone who had the US Constitution as his Party platform. It was refreshing. I had done the calculus of who would get the State's electoral votes, and that left me without qualm.
This time, we'll see what is happening.
I'm pissed at the media and don't trust a thing they say. That is because most of what isn't vile distortion is outright lies, I chase down the primary sources, and get the real data. It's amazing contrasted with ABCNNBCBS and the rest of the garbage on TV, which I rarely watch. I don't watch much of their 'programming' either, because that is exactly what it is--social programming. I'm far from humorless, but I haven't seen many comedians that get past snark into being actually funny, and rather than sit through the tedious guffaws of a laugh track, I just refrain.
Victim? Nope. Just pissed.
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I rarely consume cable TV, and I notice the OPs here are meant mainly to inflame anti-Trump above all else.
IOW I see nothing here, about growing conservatism's appeal or about winning.
OTOH I consume emerging new media, and see plenty of opportunity for conservatism.
Take three: Ruben, West and Owens.
While tradtional conservatives mostly complain, claim victimhood, Ruben is originating an alternative to youtube. He may have Silicon Valley billionaire backing.
Candace Owens is behind Blexit, and Kanye West ears a MAGA hat. Winning more black voters, means thwarting dems' certainty.
If other minorities see blacks moving, they will do so.
Bingo, Bingo!
And if I support my president it is seen as 'odd' on here. How far we have dropped. :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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100.00% Conservative. Nothing else.
Same here. And that's why I won't vote for any of the azzclown candidates running in November.
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My party’s founding document is the U.S. constitution. The other parties are simply constructs built by flawed men for the purpose of acquiring power and control over others.
But, parties are also populated by good men who must work within these constructs to constrain those whose impulse is to control others and deflect away from the timeless truth of God-given constitutional rights.
I hope that made sense.
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I still remember when personal property rights, the ability to start your own business, and reducing the national debt were pretty cool.
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The role of the party is getting people eleced, not scoring points in conservaive purity.
†James Baker, Reagan’s chief of staff and later his Treasury secretary, recalled in an interview: “‘I’d rather get 80 percent of what I want than go over the cliff with my flags flying.’â€
The point is not the absolute number.
The point for political adults, is if you want "conservative" results, winning needs to take priority, versus losing to make statements.
Every Republican from Dole onward lost the populalar vote, save GWB 2nd term.
Making statements is not a productive strategy.
There is not 80% conservatism ANYWHERE in politics today, not to mention the Republicans. More like 20%, if at all. At what point do you stop supporting that which does not deliver?
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Legal American...
Wrong with all due respect. You are still a democrat. I do not believe anything you wrote. You may believe what you wrote. It is as if you don't know what is going on in real life
Well, I have no reason to misrepresent anything I said. When I was on the school board, it was 1991-1995. My community in PA had the lowest tax in the entire state, 8 mils, and we were not a poor community by any means. Our teachers at one point were the highest paid community in PA, and when I was on the board, they went on strike, demanding a 15% increase. Truth was, we were at odds with them for quite awhile, and a judge ordered us into daily negotiations for three hours per day, and every member of the rank and file were given the right to speak each and every day by the judge before the board and the teachers' reps could negotiate. This went on and on, and I went out of town on a business trip, and the conservative Republicans on the board settled with the teachers while I was out of town at rates higher than I would ever agree to.
The mayor of our community was a Democrat, and tight as a tic on spending or taxing. We were a mixed community of white collar and blue collar. The wards that had the high priced homes with mostly white collar, high education, etc, were held by Republican councilmen/women, and they wanted to spend us blind.
All my neighbors were Republican, all business owners. My councilman was one of these spend us blind Republicans. When I decided I was not going to run for a second term for school board, my neighbors begged me to run against our Councilman, a two term Republican running for a third. They proactively worked to get me elected. My neighbors were conservative, and supporting me. So, Legal American, I do not need your blessing to know if I am conservative or not.
And your calling me a Democrat is laughable. I would love to know what makes that true. I don't know what is going on, well, neither do you.
Trump may not be taking his salary, but that money is being spent! He allocates it to where it is going, so it is spent, and I doubt it is monies to displace budgeted amount, most likely monies in addition to.
And all the things that Trump did do to reduce spending is pocket change. The budget if you want to call it that is through the roof. I do not object to rebuilding our military where it needs it. But to say we do not waste money across the board, including the military is plain false.
I do not question he has done good things, but it is not enough, and I am looking at the bottom line. The bottom line does not reflect any money being saved.
My platform if I were to run for Congress would include the following:
1. Mandatory balanced budget, sole exception during times of war declared by Congress
2. Term limits, and no pensions and golden parachutes upon leaving. Serve the people of America.
3. Strict policies on immigration, with no immigration if unemployment is above a given level
4. End H1-b Visa Program, which would provide hundreds of thousands of jobs to USA citizens
5. Build the wall, and have immediate deportation of illegal invading aliens. No judge, no involved process
6 Amend Constitution to clarify...no anchor babies. To be a citizen, one parent must be a USA citizen.
7. End financing anything in the Middle East. Trillions spent and for what?
8 End foreign aid to countries like Russia, Iraq, etc.
9. Reduce military presence in a large segment of countries, unless they pay us for our presence, i.e Japan, Korea,
Germany, etc.
10. New tax policy. We are a consumer nation, I support a Fair Tax, and the end of Income Taxes. Too many in our
society pay zero dollars in taxes, and yet make a huge income. Too much inequity on taxing.
11. End any favoritism to foreign nations over our own. It has been blatant.
12. Introduce legislation to end abortion(7 people in the Supreme Court had no right to make this decision)
And I could go on and on if I really thought about everything I would like to see. No Democrat wants the above, and good luck finding Republicans that want most of the above. But most of my friends are conservative, and happen to be Republican, and not a one would argue with me on the above other than reducing our presence in the world militarily.
Someone mentioned folks that are conservative. Candace Owens has decided she will run in her state, which I believe is Connecticut. I think that is great. I think Ben Shapiro would make a great addition as a conservative voice, but he would have to move out of California, for those smucks would never elect him.
Smokin Joe said something above about Trump being at 500 for batting as a conservative. I don't disagree with that assessment. His 500 is far better than most Republicans in Congress.
By the way, after I set the process in place, the school board I was on did not have a tax increase for ten years. When I left, one of my fellow board members, a Republican and a true conservative, he held the line on spending. He finally got tired of fighting the battle to hold the line, and he left. After he left, the folks on the board could not wait to spend the community blind, by building a $100 million+ new high school. It was not needed at all. We had a campus high school, with 13 building, much like a college campus, and it did not conform to the ease of control in having one building, limited exits, etc. That was the primary reason they went and built a new high school.
I went to that school in the 60s and 70s, graduated, and I loved the campus concept for high school. The big challenge was traversing the campus to get to the next class if one was going from one end to the other. And the girls would complain about going outside if it was raining or snowing, concerned about their hair! They tore that campus down after building the new school. Terrible waste of taxpayer money.
And last but not least, I do not think Democrats would be happy if I had my way. I believe everyone involved in the coup against Trump should be indicted, convicted, and publicly dispatched. And I am fairly certain that includes Obama. Still waiting for the first indictment from this joke of a DOJ. Trump could end up losing in November, and still nothing done.
And for all those involved in Uranium One, ALL, I think they should experience the same. I am tired of our casual approach to treason.
My friends, when I told them I was called a Democrat on a blog I post, that gave them the laugh for the day. All my close friends are conservative, and if anything, they think I might be a radical conservative, for they think I am more extreme than they are.
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@jafo2010
My platform if I were to run for Congress would include the following:
1. Mandatory balanced budget, sole exception during times of war declared by Congress
2. Term limits, and no pensions and golden parachutes upon leaving. Serve the people of America.
3. Strict policies on immigration, with no immigration if unemployment is above a given level
4. End H1-b Visa Program, which would provide hundreds of thousands of jobs to USA citizens
5. Build the wall, and have immediate deportation of illegal invading aliens. No judge, no involved process
6 Amend Constitution to clarify...no anchor babies. To be a citizen, one parent must be a USA citizen.
7. End financing anything in the Middle East. Trillions spent and for what?
8 End foreign aid to countries like Russia, Iraq, etc.
9. Reduce military presence in a large segment of countries, unless they pay us for our presence, i.e Japan, Korea,
Germany, etc.
10. New tax policy. We are a consumer nation, I support a Fair Tax, and the end of Income Taxes. Too many in our
society pay zero dollars in taxes, and yet make a huge income. Too much inequity on taxing.
11. End any favoritism to foreign nations over our own. It has been blatant.
12. Introduce legislation to end abortion(7 people in the Supreme Court had no right to make this decision)
Good stuff. Problem is that some of the above has been promised by Republican candidates for a number of year. Funny thing is once these candidates are elected, the promises are forgotten. Republicans never seem to get around to doing what they say they are going to do, even when they have majorities in both houses and even the presidency.
And eager newcomers might want to introduce all sorts of legislation, but if the higher-ups are not in favor, those bills will never see the light of day. At best, you might get your name added as a co-sponsor of some other, experienced congressperson's bill, but to introduce your own is unlikely.
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@jafo2010
Good stuff. Problem is that some of the above has been promised by Republican candidates for a number of year. Funny thing is once these candidates are elected, the promises are forgotten. Republicans never seem to get around to doing what they say they are going to do, even when they have majorities in both houses and even the presidency.
And eager newcomers might want to introduce all sorts of legislation, but if the higher-ups are not in favor, those bills will never see the light of day. At best, you might get your name added as a co-sponsor of some other, experienced congressperson's bill, but to introduce your own is unlikely.
Ahh, but republicans will never have a majority in the media—at least not in the foreseeable future. Because
that’s where the real power behind the political resistance to republican ideas resides.
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Ahh, but republicans will never have a majority in the media—at least not in the foreseeable future. Because
that’s where the real power behind the political resistance to republican ideas resides.
Sorry, but I say baloney. Republicans don't keep their promises because they don't want to. When it comes down to it, Republicans and Democrats want the same things. Just that Republicans will never admit it.
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Sorry, but I say baloney. Republicans don't keep their promises because they don't want to. When it comes down to it, Republicans and Democrats want the same things. Just that Republicans will never admit it.
The last thing I would want to do is introduce a dark note, but it sounds like you just agreed with @Chosen Daughter on the other thread. No?
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Sorry, but I say baloney. Republicans don't keep their promises because they don't want to. When it comes down to it, Republicans and Democrats want the same things. Just that Republicans will never admit it.
That was my whole take on the TEA party class of freshmen.
They ran on fiscal Conservatism, and in some cases, the ballots hadn't all been counted when they reneged.
There must be some sort of force field around the Beltway that keeps such notions outside DC.
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That was my whole take on the TEA party class of freshmen.
They ran on fiscal Conservatism, and in some cases, the ballots hadn't all been counted when they reneged.
There must be some sort of force field around the Beltway that keeps such notions outside DC.
That was true of some @Smokin Joe Rubio joining gang of 8 almost as soon as he could be compromised, prime example, but there were a few that held firm and still fight.
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That was true of some @Smokin Joe Rubio joining gang of 8 almost as soon as he could be compromised, prime example, but there were a few that held firm and still fight.
True, but we need to elect more of the latter breed. Problem is, it's tough to tell until they are in office.
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Defeatism is rampant in America. The notion that one man/woman cannot make a difference is plain wrong. I hate to say it, but look at AOC. She is a whack job, but look how she has in less than one year become the architect of the Democommie Party. And now Joe Biden, the presumptive Dem candidate has appointed her to lead the committee on climate change.
One person can make a difference, and we need to have more people in the Republican Party that are willing to stand up for a set of values and work to make it reality. Nothing done in Congress is easy, I think we all know this to be true, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.
This is a recent observation. I offered to volunteer for a person running for the House in my district, which is an open election. His campaign manager called me, and promised to get back to me, and I never heard back. I am just not interested in promoting someone's candidacy if they do not value the people in their district. The campaign manager indicated to me that they were focusing exclusively on the other county, not looking to campaign in the county I live in at all. Right off, I thought that was a recipe for disaster. I have seen too many people running for public office make that kind of mistake.
Back to defeatism, let me make mention of one more. The decline of the newspaper industry has been long running, with declines almost every year. Many believed for a long time the newspaper industry was dying. But I tell you, management mindset makes all the difference. When I became a publisher of a newspaper, I reversed its daily and Sunday decline and increased circulation. And when I researched it, of the then Top 150 newspapers, 13% were increasing circulation for the past ten years, and 27% were increasing daily circulation for the same period. Yet, all one heard was the steady decline. One company, every paper they had, excluding recent acquisitions were increasing every year, that was McClatchy. Defeatism is deadly to success and accomplishment.
Republicans need to end their defeatism and begin to champion ideas moving forward.
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Republicans need to end their defeatism and begin to champion ideas moving forward.
Yeah right. *****rollingeyes*****
It's not THAT they have ideas. It's WHICH ideas that are the problem. They are not without an agenda.
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Yeah right. *****rollingeyes*****
It's not THAT they have ideas. It's WHICH ideas that are the problem. They are not without an agenda.
Well, that's the problem.
When you have people who are out of touch with their constituents pushing the wrong ideas, it isn't the formula for victory, and as far as the people they are out of touch with go, none of them give a bleep, so why vote for any of them?
If anyone wonders why the voting turnout is so relatively low in America, they need look no farther.
A lot of nonvoting people think it won't make any significant difference.
And that is why the decades of shifting to the left to catch the middle have been a fallacy. The GOP already has the middle, they aren't getting the left which keeps going to the Left, so shift Right and gain more than they'll lose.
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Well, that's the problem.
When you have people who are out of touch with their constituents pushing the wrong ideas, it isn't the formula for victory, and as far as the people they are out of touch with go, none of them give a bleep, so why vote for any of them?
If anyone wonders why the voting turnout is so relatively low in America, they need look no farther.
A lot of nonvoting people think it won't make any significant difference.
And that is why the decades of shifting to the left to catch the middle have been a fallacy. The GOP already has the middle, they aren't getting the left which keeps going to the Left, so shift Right and gain more than they'll lose.
That is completely right... And furthermore, the disenfranchised ARE the honeypot. The current political temperament sees a fixed pie, the two ends stealing from each other out of the middle... By far and a way, the HUGE numbers will come from those who do not vote.
Folks are too busy to take time with this nonsense... Unless you can make it mean something to them, they will not bother to vote. Populism seeks to tell them something new and hip... But Conservatism speaks to them the very words their daddy did. and his daddy before him. Every single time there has been a Republican juggernaut, it has not been a Republican one at all, but rather, a Conservative one. And that juggernaut cannot come from the middle, or the left. There ain't enough there to account for it... So where oh where can it be coming from, hmmm?
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That is completely right... And furthermore, the disenfranchised ARE the honeypot. The current political temperament sees a fixed pie, the two ends stealing from each other out of the middle... By far and a way, the HUGE numbers will come from those who do not vote.
Folks are too busy to take time with this nonsense... Unless you can make it mean something to them, they will not bother to vote. Populism seeks to tell them something new and hip... But Conservatism speaks to them the very words their daddy did. and his daddy before him. Every single time there has been a Republican juggernaut, it has not been a Republican one at all, but rather, a Conservative one. And that juggernaut cannot come from the middle, or the left. There ain't enough there to account for it... So where oh where can it be coming from, hmmm?
From the same folks that brought them the TEA party class, only there were a lot of liars in there.
So, if the GOP wants to get the attention of Conservatives who won't vote for Leftist-lite, it's going to take a lot more than just lying their donkeys off on the stump. It's going to take some track record, and maybe a bit of a sea change in the way they do things. But that's about the best way to pull in the unvoting bloc.
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I'm more of an An-Cap than a Conservative, living in a '"2 Party" world. I really supported the Republicans back in the "Tea Party" days due to their "Limited Govt" slogans. I about totally gave up on Republicans when they "laid down" and let Obama win, without contesting his "credentials" at all. So now I no longer support any party. I only support individual candidates.
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From the same folks that brought them the TEA party class, only there were a lot of liars in there.
So, if the GOP wants to get the attention of Conservatives who won't vote for Leftist-lite, it's going to take a lot more than just lying their donkeys off on the stump. It's going to take some track record, and maybe a bit of a sea change in the way they do things. But that's about the best way to pull in the unvoting bloc.
That's right. Promises don't mean nothing. SHOW ME. A guy stands up that's rode the river, he sings a Conservative song, and Conservatives WILL hear the clarion call like a ringing bell, and show up in their millions.
The conglomerate of Conservative principles is exactly what causes those various factions to rise up out of the tossing sea, wind together, and become unstoppable. Half measures won't do. Someone singing off key won't do... And for sure, someone that don't know the words sure as hell won't do.
And there may be a new hip kid on the block that learns the words, hoping with stars in his eyes for fame and fortune... And he knows how to put the emotion in his voice and time his gestures to appeal to the crowd... A young voice sings so sweet.
But it;s the old beat up dude that's walked the walk, the pain and the gravel in his voice is something that new kid can't mimic, no matter how he tries. Because that comes from walking that long path. Sweet is sweet and all... But it is saccharine without the authority of experience. And I bet you know which one them Conservatives will hear.
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That's right. Promises don't mean nothing. SHOW ME. A guy stands up that's rode the river, he sings a Conservative song, and Conservatives WILL hear the clarion call like a ringing bell, and show up in their millions.
The conglomerate of Conservative principles is exactly what causes those various factions to rise up out of the tossing sea, wind together, and become unstoppable. Half measures won't do. Someone singing off key won't do... And for sure, someone that don't know the words sure as hell won't do.
And there may be a new hip kid on the block that learns the words, hoping with stars in his eyes for fame and fortune... And he knows how to put the emotion in his voice and time his gestures to appeal to the crowd... A young voice sings so sweet.
But it;s the old beat up dude that's walked the walk, the pain and the gravel in his voice is something that new kid can't mimic, no matter how he tries. Because that comes from walking that long path. Sweet is sweet and all... But it is saccharine without the authority of experience. And I bet you know which one them Conservatives will hear.
That "beat up old dude", like so many of us, may have become a Conservative the hard way--by trying so much else that just didn't work.
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That "beat up old dude", like so many of us, may have become a Conservative the hard way--by trying so much else that just didn't work.
That's right. Sooner or later the truth will out. For some sooner than others. :whistle:
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That's right. Sooner or later the truth will out. For some sooner than others. :whistle:
Some of us are smart about some things, and slow learners about others... :shrug: :whistle: