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Title: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus res
Post by: EdinVA on April 17, 2020, 05:00:49 pm
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Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus resurgence
A growing wave of rallies are taking place across the country as protesters demand that state governments (https://www.foxnews.com/category/politics/state-and-local) lift their orders closing businesses and public places as soon as possible, even as officials urge caution to prevent a resurgence of coronavirus (https://www.foxnews.com/category/health/infectious-disease/coronavirus).These Americans say they are suffering because of the economic (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/economy) shutdowns nationwide to reduce the spread of the coronavirus and are antsy to resume working and going out in public as usual.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rallies-to-reopen-economy-spread-across-country-as-officials-urge-caution-to-prevent-coronavirus-resurgence (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rallies-to-reopen-economy-spread-across-country-as-officials-urge-caution-to-prevent-coronavirus-resurgence)
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Applewood on April 17, 2020, 05:48:57 pm
This lockdown has gone on long enough for me.  As far as I know, in the small town where I live, there hasn't been a COVID 19 case.  I'm also suspicious of the number of positives (could some of them be false) and the number of deaths attributed to the virus.  How do we know the numbers in both situations aren't artificially inflated to fulfill some sinister agenda? 

I don't know -- maybe shelter in place has helped where the virus allegedly is rampant like NYC or LA.  But I'm not sure it has done anything for my small town.  So why is it still going on here?

I feel for people who are out of work.  Many have applied for unemployment, but who knows when or if they will get a check?  Even the stimulus which was supposed to tie everyone over, is messed up and who knows when or if that check is going to show up? People are desperate.   I don't blame them for their frustration. 

This *bleep* has gone on long enough.  Time to end it.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: EdinVA on April 17, 2020, 06:09:45 pm
Don't know what to think...
My son and DIL were just placed into mandatory quarantine for exposure to covid, testing today.... They are young and healthy so fingers crossed...

More angry over the gross incompetence of our government than anything....
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: sneakypete on April 17, 2020, 06:21:38 pm
Maybe it is just me,but I don think some "officials" understand how dangerous it is going to be to keep the quarantine in place as people who are out of work and sealed inside their houses start to get their vehicles repossessed,get letters from the bank talking about foreclosure on their houses,learn they no longer have health insurance because their (former) employers quit paying it,etc,etc,etc.
,IM
There are people out there who are normally peaceful and non-violent who may be on the verge of popping their corks,and there are more than just a few of them.

Anyone that isn't worried about this is not thinking clearly,IMHO.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: dfwgator on April 17, 2020, 06:27:11 pm
Let some States open up and let's see what happens.  If the results are positive, the rest will fall in line.  That is how Federalism is supposed to work, and that is the approach Trump is taking, which is the correct one.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Hoodat on April 17, 2020, 06:38:13 pm
Let some States open up and let's see what happens.  If the results are positive, the rest will fall in line.  That is how Federalism is supposed to work, and that is the approach Trump is taking, which is the correct one.

Agreed.  We should encourage States with Republican governors to open up, and persuade States with Democrat governors to remain closed.  Democrats should be on board with that because it only puts Republican voters at risk while keeping Democrat voters safely locked inside the gulag.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Applewood on April 17, 2020, 07:02:21 pm
Don't know what to think...
My son and DIL were just placed into mandatory quarantine for exposure to covid, testing today.... They are young and healthy so fingers crossed...

More angry over the gross incompetence of our government than anything....

Your son and DIL are in my prayers. 
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Applewood on April 17, 2020, 07:05:34 pm
Agreed.  We should encourage States with Republican governors to open up, and persuade States with Democrat governors to remain closed.  Democrats should be on board with that because it only puts Republican voters at risk while keeping Democrat voters safely locked inside the gulag.

I notice it's the Democrat-run states like mine which are most resistant to ending this *bleep*  My idiot governor is supposed to be consorting with a few other states about opening for business, but he keeps saying we have to stay closed.  I have to wonder what ulterior motive he has for insisting on keeping the state closed. 
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Hoodat on April 17, 2020, 07:10:36 pm
I notice it's the Democrat-run states like mine which are most resistant to ending this *bleep*  My idiot governor is supposed to be consorting with a few other states about opening for business, but he keeps saying we have to stay closed.  I have to wonder what ulterior motive he has for insisting on keeping the state closed.

If it walks like a political motive and talks like a political motive, then it probably is one.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: truth_seeker on April 17, 2020, 07:34:59 pm
If it walks like a political motive and talks like a political motive, then it probably is one.
Conservatives/Republicans work, own businesses. They are makers. They thrive on success, on good. They take and accept risks. They try to be positive.

Liberals/democrats suck on others, government teats. They are takers. They thrive on harm on negativity.,Tthe more the better.

These are not absolute,

Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: mountaineer on April 17, 2020, 07:44:09 pm
I have to wonder what ulterior motive he has for insisting on keeping the state closed.
Wait, he has a plan! https://www.governor.pa.gov/plan-for-pennsylvania/ (https://www.governor.pa.gov/plan-for-pennsylvania/)  Too bad the "reopening" (https://www.governor.pa.gov/plan-for-pennsylvania/#Phase2Reopening) part of it is so, well, absent.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: txradioguy on April 17, 2020, 07:47:27 pm
Funny how the citizens in the most Liberal states are the first ones rising up.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 17, 2020, 07:52:59 pm
It doesn't surprise me.

The Spanish flu lockdowns lasted less than a month. There is only so long you can expect people to comply with this level of lockdown.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Polly Ticks on April 17, 2020, 08:00:09 pm
Agreed.  We should encourage States with Republican governors to open up, and persuade States with Democrat governors to remain closed.  Democrats should be on board with that because it only puts Republican voters at risk while keeping Democrat voters safely locked inside the gulag.

Boo!  Some of us are living in red states with a Democrat governor, isn't that right, @txradioguy .  (You still need to change your name to kyradioguy ... )
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Applewood on April 17, 2020, 08:07:21 pm
Wait, he has a plan! https://www.governor.pa.gov/plan-for-pennsylvania/ (https://www.governor.pa.gov/plan-for-pennsylvania/)  Too bad the "reopening" (https://www.governor.pa.gov/plan-for-pennsylvania/#Phase2Reopening) part of it is so, well, absent.

And notice how he put all his proposed giveaways first.  I'd like to see him raise all the revenue he will need for these handouts if the taxpayers aren't working and the businesses remain shuttered.

Well, we don't call Wolf "the Goobernor" for nothing.      *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: txradioguy on April 17, 2020, 09:06:09 pm
Boo!  Some of us are living in red states with a Democrat governor, isn't that right, @txradioguy .  (You still need to change your name to kyradioguy ... )

Yes I can only imagine how much worse things would be if the Dems had majority control of the State House in Frankfort.

But luck for us there are unbreakable majorities in both houses and the Ag is Republican.

LOL! I tell you what...I end up with a radio job in either Elizabethtown or Louisville and I promise you here with all these witnesses I'll do that.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Fishrrman on April 17, 2020, 09:21:28 pm
Prediction:

Let the governors of the Republican states re-open for business.
It may work well enough for those states less-infected.
But I would expect to see a few states in which it boomerangs back at them with a rapidly-rising infection rate as a result.

And we will soon discover whether or not epidemiology trumps ideology.

Side note:
Here in Connecticut, infections took a big jump up again today.
1,129 cases yesterday, 925 more today.
And this is a small state, with much of the problem concentrated in the SW portion (Fairfield County). But the tentacles of the virus are "reaching outward"...
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: txradioguy on April 17, 2020, 09:25:21 pm
Prediction:

Let the governors of the Republican states re-open for business.
It may work well enough for those states less-infected.
But I would expect to see a few states in which it boomerangs back at them with a rapidly-rising infection rate as a result.

And we will soon discover whether or not epidemiology trumps ideology.

And what happens when there is no boomerang and no fear mongering predictions of "rapidly riding infection rates" based on faulty ever changing models?

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Side note:
Here in Connecticut, infections took a big jump up again today.
1,129 cases yesterday, 925 more today.
And this is a small state, with much of the problem concentrated in the SW portion (Fairfield County). But the tentacles of the virus are "reaching outward"...

Not surprised in the jump given the fact that Medicaid has told hospitals we'll give you more more money for more suspected cases they report
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: mountaineer on April 17, 2020, 11:24:35 pm
Caleb Hull  @CalebJHull
A source just sent this to me:

Snipers were placed in KY's capital buildings today under the Dem Governor's orders after protestors interrupted his press conference on Wednesday. The snipers were stationed directly across the street from where the protestors were on Wednesday.
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4:42 PM · Apr 17, 2020·
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Applewood on April 17, 2020, 11:35:29 pm
@mountaineer

This is going to get ugly real fast.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: mountaineer on April 17, 2020, 11:41:50 pm
This is going to get ugly real fast.
I'm afraid it will.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: libertybele on April 17, 2020, 11:47:55 pm
Prediction:

Let the governors of the Republican states re-open for business.
It may work well enough for those states less-infected.
But I would expect to see a few states in which it boomerangs back at them with a rapidly-rising infection rate as a result.

And we will soon discover whether or not epidemiology trumps ideology.

Side note:
Here in Connecticut, infections took a big jump up again today.
1,129 cases yesterday, 925 more today.
And this is a small state, with much of the problem concentrated in the SW portion (Fairfield County). But the tentacles of the virus are "reaching outward"...

Some plain logic has to enter into reopening. Example; the southeast coast of southern FL is where they have over 10,000 cases in just 3 counties -- they need to think long and hard before opening.  That's a lot of people.  The other counties have been fortunate because we've sheltered in.  If they open up those 3 counties --- and they start to travel to other parts of FL -- then we are just another NY waiting to happen.  All this sheltering we're doing now, will have been for nothing.  Then what?  Sure everyone wants to get back to work and everyone wants to get back to some normalcy -- but it has to be done very carefully and slowly.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: sneakypete on April 18, 2020, 01:54:20 pm
If it walks like a political motive and talks like a political motive, then it probably is one.

@Hoodat

MAYBE an effort to get the election delayed in the hope they can find someone sane and presentable to represent them while finding something to harm Trump at the same time?

We all KNOW the Dims don't want elections. They want a leftist dictatorship. IMHO,their only problem is they are being pushed into coming out of the closet about this before they are ready.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: sneakypete on April 18, 2020, 01:56:56 pm
And notice how he put all his proposed giveaways first.  I'd like to see him raise all the revenue he will need for these handouts if the taxpayers aren't working and the businesses remain shuttered.

Well, we don't call Wolf "the Goobernor" for nothing.      *****rollingeyes*****

@Applewood

Have you not been paying any attention all these years????

They will just print it. Problem solved!

Genius,huh?
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: sneakypete on April 18, 2020, 01:59:29 pm
Caleb Hull  @CalebJHull
A source just sent this to me:

Snipers were placed in KY's capital buildings today under the Dem Governor's orders after protestors interrupted his press conference on Wednesday. The snipers were stationed directly across the street from where the protestors were on Wednesday.


@mountaineer

He sounds like a real charmer. A "man of the people".
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: sneakypete on April 18, 2020, 02:01:08 pm
Some plain logic has to enter into reopening. Example; the southeast coast of southern FL is where they have over 10,000 cases in just 3 counties -- they need to think long and hard before opening.  That's a lot of people.  The other counties have been fortunate because we've sheltered in.  If they open up those 3 counties --- and they start to travel to other parts of FL -- then we are just another NY waiting to happen.  All this sheltering we're doing now, will have been for nothing.  Then what?  Sure everyone wants to get back to work and everyone wants to get back to some normalcy -- but it has to be done very carefully and slowly.

@libertybele

I agree,but thinking is a rare commodity these days. Where will you find it?
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Applewood on April 18, 2020, 05:17:17 pm
@Applewood

Have you not been paying any attention all these years????

They will just print it. Problem solved!

Genius,huh?

@sneakypete

That's true at the federal level.  Now I don't know about other states, but here in Pennsylvania, when the state government is feeling generous, it just raises taxes or institutes new ones to pay for its largesse.

My brother, when once asked what Pennsylvania's state motto is, replied:

"Pennsylvania:  Land of Taxes"
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Fishrrman on April 18, 2020, 10:15:59 pm
Which one of these lines is not like the others...?
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Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: txradioguy on April 18, 2020, 10:49:02 pm
Which one of these lines is not like the others...?
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The one with the inaccurate reporting numbers and faulty non medically based prediction models.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 19, 2020, 01:35:57 am
I love how they're "rallies" and not "protests".

Clever.
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 19, 2020, 01:45:05 am
I love how they're "rallies" and not "protests".

Clever.

 :pondering:
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 19, 2020, 01:51:40 am
Hey, @EdinVA!  Congrats on your 3,600th post!

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Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: EdinVA on April 19, 2020, 02:13:58 am
Hey, @EdinVA!  Congrats on your 3,600th post!

 
Did not even notice..... did I win?
Maybe access to TBR?
Title: Re: Rallies to reopen economy spread across country as officials urge caution to prevent coronavirus
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 19, 2020, 02:22:43 am
Did not even notice..... did I win?
Maybe access to TBR?

You win!  My praise!!  Great posts!