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Spicer: Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons
By Jonathan Easley - 04/11/17 02:26 PM EDT
White House press secretary Sean Spicer on Wednesday erred in claiming that Adolf Hitler did not use chemical weapons during World War II.
“You had someone as despicable as Hitler, who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons,” Spicer said during Wednesday’s press briefing.
Hitler is known to have used cyanide gas in mass murders of Jews.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/news/328306-spicer-even-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons
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Spicer is an idiot..does he even stop and think before he says things...I would fire him over this but that's just me.
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Spicer: Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons
By Jonathan Easley - 04/11/17 02:26 PM EDT
White House press secretary Sean Spicer on Wednesday erred in claiming that Adolf Hitler did not use chemical weapons during World War II.
“You had someone as despicable as Hitler, who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons,” Spicer said during Wednesday’s press briefing.
Hitler is known to have used cyanide gas in mass murders of Jews.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/news/328306-spicer-even-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons
This is satire. Right? Nobody could be that stupid. Right???
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During his daily press conference, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer in a conversation about the alliance between Russia and Syria, criticized the relationship, explaining that at some point, Russia will have to look at it and ask what side of history they want to be on. Unfortunately, in his attempt to highlight the severity of evils in the Syrian government, he may have forgotten about a few key details in history, Giving “alternative facts,” perhaps.
“You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons…” said Spicer.....
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Historical ignorance abounds.
(http://3reich-collector.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/ww2-german-concentration-camp/holocaust/genuine-empty-500gr-zyklon-b-can-used-german-nazis-concentration-camps_0.jpg?itok=GfKh1u-L)
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This is satire. Right? Nobody could be that stupid. Right???
Yes, Hitler and co. gassed the Jews, so Spicer is ridiculously wrong there.
But he's not entirely wrong on his assertion: Germany didn't make military use of chemical weapons -- primarily because the Allies promised to retaliate in kind and overwhelmingly if they were to do so.
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:wtf!:
:banging:
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(cringe)
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I always ask myself "If someone in the Obama administration had said it, would it make the news?". If I think not, I ignore it.
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Well unless you count using chemicals to exterminate helpless captives.
The fact that Hitler didn't use chemicals or biological weapons on the battlefield didn't mean they were off the table. In fact there were tests with things like Malaria carrying mosquitoes.
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Sickening in the extreme.
Are the defenders running to the microphone to explain this?
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As a general rule, I would say all PR people should avoid talking about Hitler at all times. Nothing good ever happens to a political hack when Hitler's name comes up in conversation.
Spicer's comment is monumentally stupid.
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Well unless you count using chemicals to exterminate helpless captives.
The fact that Hitler didn't use chemicals or biological weapons on the battlefield didn't mean they were off the table. In fact there were tests with things like Malaria carrying mosquitoes.
I believe the Nazis even developed new classifications of chemical weapons called organophosphates, specifically Tabun. I'm not sure, but I seem to recall it being used against the Russians.
But their use of them on civilians seems to directly correlate to Assad's supposed use.
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I believe the Nazis even developed new classifications of chemical weapons called organophosphates, specifically Tabun. I'm not sure, but I seem to recall it being used against the Russians.
But their use of them on civilians seems to directly correlate to Assad's supposed use.
Tabun was made on an industrial scale by Germany during World War II, based on a process developed by Gerhard Schrader. In the chemical agent factory in Dyhernfurth an der Oder, codenamed "Hochwerk", at least 12,000 metric tons of this agent were manufactured between 1942 and 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabun_%28nerve_agent%29#Synthesis
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Spicer is an idiot..does he even stop and think before he says things...I would fire him over this but that's just me.
He should be fired.
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I believe the Nazis even developed new classifications of chemical weapons called organophosphates, specifically Tabun. I'm not sure, but I seem to recall it being used against the Russians.
But their use of them on civilians seems to directly correlate to Assad's supposed use.
They did. Both sides produced a lot of chemical weapons during WWII. The Allies mainly deployed them as deterrents, to be used in retaliation. The Germans didn't use them militarily for that reason.
I believe the Japanese were the only ones who used them on a militarily significant scale (limited to Chinese and other Asian targets -- not used on the Allies). The Germans may have used them in isolated instances on the Eastern Front.
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He should be fired.
The whole lot of them should be fired. The Obama team was bad enough; these guys are apparently incapable of thinking before they speak.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/crutch999/Fred-Sanford-Dummy_zps5yrtim8f.gif)
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Well unless you count using chemicals to exterminate helpless captives.
The fact that Hitler didn't use chemicals or biological weapons on the battlefield didn't mean they were off the table. In fact there were tests with things like Malaria carrying mosquitoes.
D-Day may have been saved because the Germans couldn't make a gas mask that would fit a horse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare#World_War_II
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As an interesting side note, Chris Matthews said almost the exact same thing a few years ago and was called out for it.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/msnbc-host-hitler-never-used-chemical-weapons/
Even more so, he even made this comment in context of Assad's using them in 2013.
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He should be fired.
What you said.
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As an interesting side note, Chris Matthews said almost the exact same thing a few years ago and was called out for it.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/msnbc-host-hitler-never-used-chemical-weapons/
Even more so, he even made this comment in context of Assad's using them in 2013.
ISIS has used them a couple of times in Iraq.
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Guess to this cabal killing jews doesn't really count.
Not decent enough to apologize, simply trying to defend the indefensible
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What a moran
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As a general rule, I would say all PR people should avoid talking about Hitler at all times. Nothing good ever happens to a political hack when Hitler's name comes up in conversation.
Spicer's comment is monumentally stupid.
:thumbsup2:
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I always ask myself "If someone in the Obama administration had said it, would it make the news?". If I think not, I ignore it.
Talk about low standards
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Will Rush Limbaugh go into his usual excusathon?:
"Sean Spicer was taken out of context."
"If a Democratic Press Secretary had said this ..."
Please prove me wrong, Rush.
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(http://i.imgur.com/iHH5ypD.jpg)
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(http://s29.postimg.org/5csj4277b/gas_jews.jpg)
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Just watched the CBS News and NBC news story on this and watching him say the words and then it only got worse trying to explain his way out of it made me cringe. Press Secretaries are suppose to get their boss out of messes, not create the mess. He should be fired.
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Sean Spicer tries to clarify claim that Hitler ‘didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons’
White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday that Adolf Hitler didn’t use chemical weapons on his people in the same way Syria did in a recent gas attack on its Idlib province that killed more than 80 people, including children.
“We didn’t use chemical weapons in World War II,” said Spicer during his regular press briefing, addressing a question on the relationship between Russia and Syria. “You had someone as despicable as Hitler, who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons.”
When asked to clarify that statement later in the briefing, Spicer expanded his response and the comparison to Hitler, causing an immediate burst of criticism on social media.
“I think when you come to sarin gas, he was not using the gas on his own people in the same way that Assad was doing,” said Spicer. “There was not — he brought them into the Holocaust center, I understand that — but I’m saying in the way [Syrian President Bashar Assad] used them, where he went into towns, to innocents, into the middle of towns. The use of it, I appreciate the clarification there, that was not the intent.”
Spicer clarified his comments in a statement to NBC News immediately following the briefing, at which time his name was a trending topic on Twitter due to the volume of posts on his remarks.
“In no way was I trying to lessen the horrendous nature of the Holocaust. However, I was trying to draw a contrast of the tactic of using airplanes to drop chemical weapons on innocent people,” Spicer said.
The White House then issued another clarification shortly thereafter amending the final line: “In no way was I trying to lessen the horrendous nature of the Holocaust, however, I was trying to draw a contrast of the tactic of using airplanes to drop chemical weapons on population centers.”
Minutes after that clarification, another version was issued to the White House press pool affirming that Holocaust victims were also innocent: “In no way was I trying to lessen the horrendous nature of the Holocaust. I was trying to draw a distinction of the tactic of using airplanes to drop chemical weapons on population centers. Any attack on innocent people is reprehensible and inexcusable.”
The Nazis killed over 3 million people in their concentration camps, primarily using chemically manufactured carbon monoxide and Zyklon B, a cyanide-based pesticide. President Trump cited the attack on Syria as the catalyst for his ordering the United
https://www.yahoo.com/news/spicer-hitler-didnt-use-gas-people-like-assad-190156724.html
Wow.
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Haven't we posted enough of this non story on the boards today? What the hell is left to say about it?
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Who's nearest? Would you whack Spiceweasel with a clue by four, please?
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Who's nearest? Would you whack Spiceweasel with a clue by four, please?
We haven't had a Press Secretary since Tony Snow died that wasn't a lying shitbag. Before him you had to go all the way back to Marlin Fitzwater. Anybody really losing sleep over this moron Spicer? Anyone really believe this gaff will effect anything of relevance?
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Don't think it will affect anything in and of itself. It's another unforced error though - one that should never have been made. This sort of cock-up gives the Dems hope and something to rant about.
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Don't think it will affect anything in and of itself. It's another unforced error though - one that should never have been made. This sort of cock-up gives the Dems hope and something to rant about.
I just wondered why someone with such obvious lack of WW11 history would try and make a Hitler comparison?
Guess he missed the gas shower history lessons. Never watched any footage of the piled up bodies after being gassed?
Where did Trump get this guy?
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Where did Trump get this guy?
Came in as part of a package deal with Preibus, near as I can tell - former communication director of the RNC. Funny thing is he was pretty anti Trump during the primaries.
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Came in as part of a package deal with Preibus, near as I can tell - former communication director of the RNC. Funny thing is he was pretty anti Trump during the primaries.
Spicer or Preibus?
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Where did Trump get this guy?
Really? He was the RNC communications guy forever. Almost 7 or 8 years. He is exactly who you Donny haters covet. A generic, middle of the road GOP'er.
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Really? He was the RNC communications guy forever. Almost 7 or 8 years. He is exactly who you Donny haters covet. A generic, middle of the road GOP'er.
I told you I wasn't a politician. But Donald chose him. However you want to twist it Frank.
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Came in as part of a package deal with Preibus, near as I can tell - former communication director of the RNC. Funny thing is he was pretty anti Trump during the primaries.
so was Kellyanne Conway
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Really? He was the RNC communications guy forever. Almost 7 or 8 years. He is exactly who you Donny haters covet. A generic, middle of the road GOP'er.
Trump picked the head swamp spokesmen but it isn't his fault?
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Trump picked the head swamp spokesmen but it isn't his fault?
I don't care who Spicer was or what he did prior. Trump should say "You're Fired!" and let this guy go. It is hard to imagine that anyone with any schooling would not know what Hitler did in his Nazi camps with chemicals. So the only conclusion is that Spicer just outed himself as a Holocaust denier.
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I don't care who Spicer was or what he did prior. Trump should say "You're Fired!" and let this guy go. It is hard to imagine that anyone with any schooling would not know what Hitler did in his Nazi camps with chemicals. So the only conclusion is that Spicer just outed himself as a Holocaust denier.
Agreed. Spicer should be fired for giving the MSM and Saturday Night Live ammunition and ideas for skits. He is a disgrace. Trump ought to let him go and quick.
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It would have been better if they hadn't launched a pointless attack on Syria in the first place then they wouldn't have had to try so desperately to justify it.
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So the only conclusion is that Spicer just outed himself as a Holocaust denier.
That's a patently stupid comment. Please show where he said anything close to saying the Holocaust didn't happen?
Your irrational hatred has turned you into a Leftist harpy.
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Agreed. Spicer should be fired for giving the MSM and Saturday Night Live ammunition and ideas for skits. He is a disgrace. Trump ought to let him go and quick.
Who in their right mind would take that job? Knowing you would be attacked every day from every side for every word you spoke. That every statement would be parsed, analyzed and twisted by people who wanted to hurt you and your boss.
I bet people are just lining up for that job.
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That's a patently stupid comment. Please show where he said anything close to saying the Holocaust didn't happen?
Your irrational hatred has turned you into a Leftist harpy.
Just as irrational as your name-calling nastiness, I guess. :shrug:
Most educated persons knew that Hitler used chemical weapons by the time we were in the 7th grade. Why didn't Spicer?
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Just as irrational as your name-calling nastiness, I guess. :shrug:
Most educated persons knew that Hitler used chemical weapons by the time we were in the 7th grade. Why didn't Spicer?
I threw out a question. Where did Spicer deny the Holocaust. It is established that he said something stupid as a spokesman. He apologized about it showing that he knew it was wrong. Being a dumb ass is not the same as being a Holocaust denier. It's not even close, but since you rabid Trump haters are totally out of your effing minds you are jumping on this like it is the biggest outrage.
You are no different than the rest of the snowflakes wearing vagina hats claiming Donny is taking away birth control and woman's rights without a shred of evidence. As long as you can shoehorn something into your hate meme all is well.
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Sean Spicer can be replaced by Bill O'Reilly. (he's a "historian" don'tcha know) :silly:
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Sean Spicer can be replaced by Bill O'Reilly. (he's a "historian" don'tcha know) :silly:
He's also "on holiday" as of last night. :tongue2:
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I threw out a question. Where did Spicer deny the Holocaust. It is established that he said something stupid as a spokesman. He apologized about it showing that he knew it was wrong. Being a dumb ass is not the same as being a Holocaust denier. It's not even close, but since you rabid Trump haters are totally out of your effing minds you are jumping on this like it is the biggest outrage.
You are no different than the rest of the snowflakes wearing vagina hats claiming Donny is taking away birth control and woman's rights without a shred of evidence. As long as you can shoehorn something into your hate meme all is well.
Spicer mispoke when trying to find a way to illustrate that Assad is a bad guy. I doubt he would have ever said this in a prepared statement.
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My favorite white house press secretary was Tony Snow.
I go to know him pretty well online and he was a man who clearly didn't care that I'm a nobody.
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My favorite white house press secretary was Tony Snow.
I go to know him pretty well online and he was a man who clearly didn't care that I'm a nobody.
:beer:
One heck of a human being. It's a pretty rare bird in Washington D.C. that everyone could warm right up to, even the jackals in the press.
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My favorite white house press secretary was Tony Snow.
I go to know him pretty well online and he was a man who clearly didn't care that I'm a nobody.
He was willingly accessible, for sure. Thanks to the rapidly decaying sense of civility it seems like those days on the internet are pretty much over.
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Sean Spicer tries to clarify claim that Hitler ‘didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons’
He doesn't need to "clarify" it. He needs to call out the lying deceitful snakes in the press who are trying to twist his statement to score a cheap social media victory.
All he should say is "You know what I meant, and if you didn't, then you are too stupid to discuss the matter. "
"The others of you who knew what I meant and still tried to pull this deception are liars, and I have no use for you either. "
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Spicer mispoke when trying to find a way to illustrate that Assad is a bad guy. I doubt he would have ever said this in a prepared statement.
People unable to speak extemporaneously shouldn't be in a position that requires thinking on one's feet. No doubt he's got one of the most difficult jobs in town, but you just can't say stupid/ignorant stuff like this.
And to think he has a Masters degree from the Naval War College.
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He doesn't need to "clarify" it. He needs to call out the lying deceitful snakes in the press who are trying to twist his statement to score a cheap social media victory.
All he should say is "You know what I meant, and if you didn't, then you are too stupid to discuss the matter. "
"The others of you who knew what I meant and still tried to pull this deception are liars, and I have no use for you either. "
Ironic.... that some of those same snakes in the press probably don't believe the Holocaust occurred. But scoring cheap political points in the game of politiks is all that matters now. That is the environment in DC after decades of leftist infestation.
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People are running around saying that he is now a Holocaust denier.
I don't believe that.
But what I do believe, is he is as Red Foreman used to say on "That 70's show":
"Dumb-ass!"
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People are running around saying that he is now a Holocaust denier.
I don't believe that.
But what I do believe, is he is as Red Foreman used to say on "That 70's show":
"Dumb-ass!"
I doubt he's a Holocaust denier, but he catapulted himself into Olympic grade Dumbass with that comment.
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I threw out a question. Where did Spicer deny the Holocaust. It is established that he said something stupid as a spokesman. He apologized about it showing that he knew it was wrong. Being a dumb ass is not the same as being a Holocaust denier. It's not even close, but since you rabid Trump haters are totally out of your effing minds you are jumping on this like it is the biggest outrage.
You are no different than the rest of the snowflakes wearing vagina hats claiming Donny is taking away birth control and woman's rights without a shred of evidence. As long as you can shoehorn something into your hate meme all is well.
You've completely lost your mind, Frank. There isn't one rational thought in this post.
Not one.
I never said he was a Holocaust denier. I said he should be fired for such a stupid, ignorant, thoughtless remark. (He really didn't know that Hitler gassed the Jews??)
I just thought your hate-filled attack on another poster because she said something you disagreed with was out of line.
But there's a lot of that going on with you these days......
You used to make sense until your anger got the best of you. Calm down, OK?? **nononono*
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Ah, the "general" category... where topics of discussion go to die. :)
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Might want to put your glasses on. We're in National News.
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Who in their right mind would take that job? Knowing you would be attacked every day from every side for every word you spoke. That every statement would be parsed, analyzed and twisted by people who wanted to hurt you and your boss.
I bet people are just lining up for that job.
I've said before...I'd take it. I'd model myself after Tony Snow in how I handled the media. 20 years of dealing with these nitwits down range has prepared me to deal with them in D.C.
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Queen Of Stupid Statements Nancy Pelosi Wants Sean Spicer Fired For Saying Something Stupid
April 11, 2017| by Brian Anderson
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer made a legitimate point with a poor choice of words today. He was basically trying to point out that Syrian president Bashar al Assad was an evil motherf*cker for using chemical weapons on his own people, which is 100% true, but he tried to tie this to Hitler and it didn’t go over so well. He said something stupid and later clarified his remarks, but that hasn’t stopped Nancy Pelosi, who is also known for saying stupid things, from calling for his ouster.
At the White House press briefing on Tuesday, Spicer said this:
https://downtrend.com/71superb/queen-of-stupid-statements-nancy-pelosi-wants-sean-spicer-fired-for-saying-something-stupid
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It wouldn't be a problem for Spicer. I'm sure he can find a good job in any of the 57 US States. :silly:
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Queen Of Stupid Statements Nancy Pelosi Wants Sean Spicer Fired For Saying Something Stupid
April 11, 2017| by Brian Anderson
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer made a legitimate point with a poor choice of words today. He was basically trying to point out that Syrian president Bashar al Assad was an evil motherf*cker for using chemical weapons on his own people, which is 100% true, but he tried to tie this to Hitler and it didn’t go over so well. He said something stupid and later clarified his remarks, but that hasn’t stopped Nancy Pelosi, who is also known for saying stupid things, from calling for his ouster.
At the White House press briefing on Tuesday, Spicer said this:
https://downtrend.com/71superb/queen-of-stupid-statements-nancy-pelosi-wants-sean-spicer-fired-for-saying-something-stupid
DC would be a ghost town if everyone was fired for making stupid statements. My response to Pelosi's call for someone being fired for saying something stupid? You first.
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Queen Of Stupid Statements Nancy Pelosi Wants Sean Spicer Fired For Saying Something Stupid
April 11, 2017| by Brian Anderson
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer made a legitimate point with a poor choice of words today. He was basically trying to point out that Syrian president Bashar al Assad was an evil motherf*cker for using chemical weapons on his own people, which is 100% true, but he tried to tie this to Hitler and it didn’t go over so well. He said something stupid and later clarified his remarks, but that hasn’t stopped Nancy Pelosi, who is also known for saying stupid things, from calling for his ouster.
At the White House press briefing on Tuesday, Spicer said this:
https://downtrend.com/71superb/queen-of-stupid-statements-nancy-pelosi-wants-sean-spicer-fired-for-saying-something-stupid
The tu quoque (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque) argument is :LAME: :LAME: :LAME:
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"Every week we don't pass a Stimulus package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs"
-Nancy Pelosi, Feb 2009-
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Ah, the "general" category... where topics of discussion go to die. :)
@DiogenesLamp
Where would you like this topic moved to?
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As someone who is not a Trump or Spicer fan, this is much ado about nothing. I'm sure Spicer knows about the Holocaust. He obviously was referring to Hitler not using poison gas on Allied soldiers.
This is just all the lbs and leftists using any occasion where a Trump person screws up with their choice of words to overreact. You would have thought he had made anti-Semitic remarks the way they're screeching.
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He obviously was referring to Hitler not using poison gas on Allied soldiers.
You know what he meant and I know what he meant. But when you're dealing with 3-year olds you have to spell it out specifically for their tiny undeveloped brains.
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We all knew what Spicer meant. I don't blame the guy at all. He has the worst job in DC. Can't be easy.
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We all knew what Spicer meant. I don't blame the guy at all. He has the worst job in DC. Can't be easy.
Agreed, but it's a job that has to be one when slips of the tongue are avoided.
Bet there are plenty out there of our ideology who fit that bill.
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As someone who is not a Trump or Spicer fan, this is much ado about nothing. I'm sure Spicer knows about the Holocaust. He obviously was referring to Hitler not using poison gas on Allied soldiers.
Syria is accused of using it against their own people, this has nothing to do with enemy soldiers.
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Pretzel-ing to a new low.