The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Right_in_Virginia on June 24, 2017, 06:56:29 pm
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The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
Daily Caller, Jun 23, 2017
Reporters are growing infuriated with the White House’s new press strategy designed to make them look ridiculous, a Thursday profile reveals.
The White House is adopting a new approach to the way that it handles press briefings with the hopes of messing with reporters, CNN reported.
The approach works like this: the White House will host a public briefing one day and then cancel their briefings for the next few days, causing outrage from media outlets and their reporters. When the anger over a lack of press briefings builds up, the White House will host an off-camera briefing and continue the process all over again.
More: http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/23/the-white-houses-new-press-strategy-has-reporters-furious/
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Silly: CNN Debases Itself, Hires Sketch Artist for Off-Camera WH Briefing
Newsbusters, Jun 23, 2017
File this one under, ‘no, this not a joke.’ For Friday’s off-camera White House press briefing, CNN hired a sketch artist to render images of press secretary Sean Spicer as yet another example of their pathetic meltdowns over the Trump communications team’s decisions about access.
Fox News White House correspondent Kevin Corke teased this news earlier Friday, but CNN Newsroom anchor Brooke Baldwin made an on-air announcement following the tape-delayed audio from briefing while sketches appeared next to her.
More: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2017/06/23/silly-cnn-debases-itself-hires-sketch-artist-camera-wh-briefing
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The press briefings for the "reporters" were always about them making the news in front of a camera. I am lovin' this. ^-^
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Silly: CNN Debases Itself, Hires Sketch Artist for Off-Camera WH Briefing
Actually, it's the White House that comes across looking silly. And petty. And scared. And childish. And foolish. And thin-skinned. And immature. And short-sighted. And unprofessional. And clueless. Etc.
But as long as the low-information types get their red meat, I suppose it's great!
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Seems to me.... this is just more of the WH playing the pressholes like a fiddle, much to their chagrin...lol.
About friggin time somebody played them instead of vice versa!
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"Off camera" press briefings? You have got to be f*cking kidding me. This administration is the exact shitshow I predicted it would be... only WORSE.
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"Off camera" press briefings? You have got to be f*cking kidding me. This administration is the exact shitshow I predicted it would be... only WORSE.
As long as it feeds The Big Ego, then it's great.
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If the press is furious, than this is a great strategy.
They've been Trumped!
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Seems to me.... this is just more of the WH playing the pressholes like a fiddle, much to their chagrin...lol.
About friggin time somebody played them instead of vice versa!
As it began, so it ends.
Playing the press is why there is a White House press corps. Favor the right ones and they'll avoid bad press so to stay in your good graces. But with television the upper hand passed to the news hawks and the president needed to stay in their good graces.
Times change. Internet.
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"Off camera" press briefings? You have got to be f*cking kidding me. This administration is the exact shitshow I predicted it would be... only WORSE.
ROFL!
You mean you think you're FINALLY right about something for a change? Or are we talkin' "Blind Squirrel" here?
Me and McDonald's. We're LOVIN' IT!
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As long as it feeds The Big Ego, then it's great.
@Suppressed
The reason Trump is doing this is to keep "his people" off the TV so they don't get as much coverage as he does. He can't stand anyone getting more "press" than he does.
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"Off camera" press briefings? You have got to be f*cking kidding me. This administration is the exact shitshow I predicted it would be... only WORSE.
And the low info toadies love it because it angers the right people.
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Trump burned all his bridges with the press. They were never going to give him positive covergage anyway. So what does he have to lose? At least this way some of us can enjoy watching the pressholes squirm.
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And the low info toadies love it because it angers the right people.
LOL!
Somebody who hasn't gotten anything right about the political landscape in YEARS....calling a Trump supporter a "Low info toadie".
Thanks for the smile.
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Actually, it's the White House that comes across looking silly. And petty. And scared. And childish. And foolish. And thin-skinned. And immature. And short-sighted. And unprofessional. And clueless. Etc.
But as long as the low-information types get their red meat, I suppose it's great!
Maybe but anything that annoys the press is okay with me.
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Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?
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Support for the President seems very solidly around 35% to 37% (outliers not withstanding), and I doubt there is much he could do to alienate his core supporters (I think he was right about shooting someone and not losing much base support). That's obviously not enough to get reelected though, and his current level of support probably has the GOP up for re-election next year nervous. I doubt continuing to play games with tweets and with daily press briefings will help his approval ratings, and that's largely what he's doing IMO.
If he doesn't realize he needs to start acting Presidential, that his words as President have real import, and that serving as President is more than playing a character, I believe his Presidency is doomed to failure and will continue to wallow in defiance and settling of petty differences. Treating the American public with respect by actually answering reasonable questions (beyond just Fox News) would be a good start IMO. Sadly, I don't see it happening. Just another missed opportunity and self-inflicted wound for this Administration.
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Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?
I imagine it's because they don't think it's the press that is looking ridiculous. Just a guess.
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I imagine it's because they don't think it's the press that is looking ridiculous. Just a guess.
Given the White House strategy described in the article, as well as the posting history of those doing the complaining I think thats highly unlikely.
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"Off camera" press briefings? You have got to be f*cking kidding me. This administration is the exact shitshow I predicted it would be... only WORSE.
Off camera. Like has been done for most of the nation's history. Not a novel idea to take the center of attention away from the podium and onto subject matter.
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Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?
Because it's the "Orange Julius" that's accomplishing it. ^-^
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Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?
Because, like it or not (probably not), a free press is critical to the republic.
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Because, like it or not (probably not), a free press is critical to the republic.
What do TV cameras have to do with a free press?
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And the low info toadies love it because it angers the right people.
Are you callin' me a low info toady? If so, what are you? I mean really, how would you describe yourself.
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Because, like it or not (probably not), a free press is critical to the republic.
Cowards will always fear a free press.
Despite his obvious disgust with the press (and ignorant population) Thomas Jefferson still declared a free press to be better than the alternative. He said that the only regulation of the press should come from an informed and discerning public, not from government.
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Because, like it or not (probably not), a free press is critical to the republic.
If Trump had the power or inclination to stop a free press, we would not see negative stories pop up every day about him, few of them which turn out to be true.
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What do TV cameras have to do with a free press?
Don't be ignorant. Television is the medium used today to report the news.
All Whitehouse press briefings should be on C-SPAN.
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Don't be ignorant. Television is the medium used today to report the news.
You use the word "ignorant" --- but I do not think it means what you think it means.
Ever hear of: CNN? MSNBC? Fox News? Fox Business News? ABC? NBC? CBS? (All on television)
Ever hear of: the Internet? Twitter? Facebook?
Ever hear of: Newspapers? Magazine Publications?
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Since he didn't appoint Kimberly Guilfoyle as press secretary, I could not possibly care any less about the utterances coming from his Administration, I would further propose a national petition of some sort to further limit Twitter to say 30 characters per tweet to lessen the damage to the Office of the Presidency.
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@Suppressed
The reason Trump is doing this is to keep "his people" off the TV so they don't get as much coverage as he does. He can't stand anyone getting more "press" than he does.
@Victoria33
Excellent point. You have very good insight into the man.
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@Suppressed
The reason Trump is doing this is to keep "his people" off the TV so they don't get as much coverage as he does. He can't stand anyone getting more "press" than he does.
Unmitigated nonsense.
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Unmitigated nonsense.
You have anything to refute that theory?
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Cowards will always fear a free press.
Despite his obvious disgust with the press (and ignorant population) Thomas Jefferson still declared a free press to be better than the alternative. He said that the only regulation of the press should come from an informed and discerning public, not from government.
Let us not forget: during the summer of 1787, the windows were shuttered closed during the Constitutional Convention. George Washington and others felt it was imperative that each member of the convention be allowed to speak openly and freely, without the press to misconstrue what was being said.
Every WH tries to slant their message...is there a better way to do this? Looks more like bullying to me, and I don't like the favoritism that's been shown to Fox.
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Let us not forget: during the summer of 1787, the windows were shuttered closed during the Constitutional Convention. George Washington and others felt it was imperative that each member of the convention be allowed to speak openly and freely, without the press to misconstrue what was being said.
Every WH tries to slant their message...is there a better way to do this? Looks more like bullying to me, and I don't like the favoritism that's been shown to Fox.
They were sequestered to force them to make compromises they might otherwise walk away from and to prevent outside influences from creeping in.
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They were sequestered to force them to make compromises they might otherwise walk away from and to prevent outside influences from creeping in.
Good points, CC. Those guys were pretty smart. About the only thing they missed on was term limits, but that's understandable. A career in "public service" was unimaginable back then.
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Because, like it or not (probably not), a free press is critical to the republic.
A non sequitur if there ever was one.
Refusal to speak with the press when the press demands does not equal an abridgment of the 1st Amendment.
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@Suppressed
The reason Trump is doing this is to keep "his people" off the TV so they don't get as much coverage as he does. He can't stand anyone getting more "press" than he does.
No. I think it is much more simple than that. It's an Occam's razor example, in fact. Trump is doing it to 'get back at' the idiot left pressholes. And it's working. They're royally pissed....lol.
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No. I think it is much more simple than that. It's an Occam's razor example, in fact. Trump is doing it to 'get back at' the idiot left pressholes. And it's working. They're royally pissed....lol.
Considering how the media has been filtering and twisting the news over past decades its difficult to imagine why anyone would think this administration refusing to play by the same rigged rules is indicative of a Trump personality flaw or constitutes some grave threat to the Constitutional mandate for the allowance of free speech.
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You have anything to refute that theory?
Yes. I have watched and listened to the man for more than two years. Neither candidate Trump nor President remotely acted or acts in the way described.
And no, I am not going to fill you in on all you have missed. IMO, you showed no interest in the truth about the man before, so I doubt you have a true interest in it now.
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You have anything to refute that theory?
You have anything to support that theory? *****rollingeyes*****
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Yes. I have watched and listened to the man for more than two years. Neither candidate Trump nor President remotely acted or acts in the way described.
And no, I am not going to fill you in on all you have missed. IMO, you showed no interest in the truth about the man before, so I doubt you have a true interest in it now.
I haven't missed anything. Only difference between us is that I don't watch what happens with regards tot he media with rose colored glasses and/or blinders.
The media as pro Dem as they are didn't like the shabby treatment the received from Obama and made their displeasure known.
Trump is in danger of treating them worse than Obama.
And neither one was right in treating the media...that at some point Trump will need...this poorly.
And no matter how much pom pom waivers like yourself think treating the media like crap is a good thing...at the end of the day it's a very poor strategy that will blow up in the Administration's face worse than it already is.
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You have anything to support that theory? *****rollingeyes*****
The article that started this thread is a great example.
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The media as pro Dem as they are didn't like the shabby treatment the received from Obama and made their displeasure known.
@txradioguy
Helen Thomas was a perfect example. She asked too many aggressive questions of Obama and they removed her from the front row and threatened her press credentials.
On a side note, this attitude that some have that the democrats did bad things so we can too is not winning, its surrender.
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Considering how the media has been filtering and twisting the news over past decades its difficult to imagine why anyone would think this administration refusing to play by the same rigged rules is indicative of a Trump personality flaw or constitutes some grave threat to the Constitutional mandate for the allowance of free speech.
The grave threat to the Constitutional mandate for the allowance of free speech has already been accomplished BY the radical left and their minions in the media. They only cherry-pick from the Constitution when it suits their agenda.... just as they cherry-pick from the Bible. The radical left loathes both equally, in fact... unless or until they can 'use' one to twist, lie and obfuscate.
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The article that started this thread is a great example.
Bullsh*t!
Please cite the sentence(s) that support @Suppressed 's stupid claim.
We'll wait...... :whistle:
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@txradioguy
Helen Thomas was a perfect example. She asked too many aggressive questions of Obama and they removed her from the front row and threatened her press credentials.
On a side note, this attitude that some have that the democrats did bad things so we can too is not winning, its surrender.
And there isn't always going to be a Republican President...this revenge on the media and calls to go all jihad on them can come back to bit the GOP in the backside.
What's to stop the next Dem President from banning any and all Conservative media outlets and publications from the gallery in the house and senate and from the WH press room. And that President and his press flack will cite how Trump treated the press as precedent for their own actions.
This revenge on the media door swings both ways.
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Bullsh*t!
Please cite the sentence(s) that support @Suppressed 's stupid claim.
We'll wait...... :whistle:
Crap in one hand demand in the other and see which fills up first.
Your attempt to come in and rescue your fellow sycophant is noble if not futile. You're trying to distract from RiV answering the question first.
Not gonna work.
Trumps brazen and overt attacks on the media both as a candidate and as President are legion on both video audio and social media.
The threads about them reside in the very archives of this forum.
But then you already knew that.
Go light your flaming strawman and fish for red herrings somewhere else
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Bullsh*t!
Please cite the sentence(s) that support @Suppressed 's stupid claim.
We'll wait...... :whistle:
Are you sure the discussion is my ppst, @DCPatriot. The thread traces back to @Victoria33 .
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I haven't missed anything. Only difference between us is that I don't watch what happens with regards tot he media with rose colored glasses and/or blinders.
The media as pro Dem as they are didn't like the shabby treatment the received from Obama and made their displeasure known.
Trump is in danger of treating them worse than Obama.
And neither one was right in treating the media...that at some point Trump will need...this poorly.
And no matter how much pom pom waivers like yourself think treating the media like crap is a good thing...at the end of the day it's a very poor strategy that will blow up in the Administration's face worse than it already is.
Wait....what??? Obama treated his rabid left media badly? When? How? The idiot left media literally slavered (tingled up their legs) over Obama. What are you referring to here?
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Crap in one hand demand in the other and see which fills up first.
Your attempt to come in and rescue your fellow sycophant is noble if not futile. You're trying to distract from RiV answering the question first.
Not gonna work.
Trumps brazen and overt attacks on the media both as a candidate and as President are legion on both video audio and social media.
The threads about them reside in the very archives of this forum.
But then you already knew that.
Go light your flaming strawman and fish for red herrings somewhere else
Yeah.... and..... that is probably one of the very few things Trump did that I approved of. :silly:
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Forgive me if this hasn't already been asked, but other than to 'tweak' the press, what good does this do for the administration? It seems with all the complaints about 'fake news' they would want as complete of a record as possible to fall back on. Sure, video can be edited, but now this is going to be more of a 'he said/she said' game as a reporter's written account is more prone to include editorializing and mistakes versus an on the record video of the event.
Other than power games, this move does not help the White House.
I know.. I know.. Quantum Chess...
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Wait....what??? Obama treated his rabid left media worse? When? How? The idiot left media literally slavered (tingled up their legs) over Obama. What are you referring to here?
@XenaLee
I guess you did miss it.
USA Today’s Susan Page: Obama administration most ‘dangerous’ to media in history
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/10/27/usa-todays-susan-page-obama-administration-most-dangerous-to-media-in-history/
There are numerous times they were barred from events were at the very least pool reporters and videographers should have been granted access and merely handed press releases and WH approved photos instead.
Even James Rosen of Fox News said as much:
http://James Rosen: Obama Treated Media Worse Than Trump
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/02/22/fox-correspondent-obama-worse-than-trump/
And lets not forget the time the Veep's staff forced a reporter into a closet.
Vice President's aide apologises to journalist locked in a closet for hours during fundraiser
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370371/Vice-President-Joe-Bidens-staff-lock-journalist-closet-stop-talking-guests.html
Those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head.
There were complaints by photographers and reporters about how they were denied access to events that in the past had been open to the public.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article24759376.html
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Wait....what??? Obama treated his rabid left media badly? When? How? The idiot left media literally slavered (tingled up their legs) over Obama. What are you referring to here?
The love went in one direction to Obama, and he treated the slavering liberal media as he did with the women he was intimately involved with. You know, the unrequited love thing, because Obama is the classic narcissist.
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@XenaLee
I guess you did miss it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/10/27/usa-todays-susan-page-obama-administration-most-dangerous-to-media-in-history/
There are numerous times they were barred from events were at the very least pool reporters and videographers should have been granted access and merely handed press releases and WH approved photos instead.
Even James Rosen of Fox News said as much:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/02/22/fox-correspondent-obama-worse-than-trump/
And lets not forget the time the Veep's staff forced a reporter into a closet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370371/Vice-President-Joe-Bidens-staff-lock-journalist-closet-stop-talking-guests.html
Those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head.
There were complaints by photographers and reporters about how they were denied access to events that in the past had been open to the public.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article24759376.html
That's weird... cause I suffered through eight loooong years of press briefings, Obama speeches and "events" rife with idiot left slobbering celebrities and never saw any such "bad treatment" by Obama. He was their god, their savior, their un-American Idol! But yeah... I could understand him treating them with disdain. The arrogant POS did, after all, hate (all) Americans. ^-^
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I haven't missed anything. Only difference between us is that I don't watch what happens with regards tot he media with rose colored glasses and/or blinders. The media as pro Dem as they are didn't like the shabby treatment the received from Obama and made their displeasure known.
Trump is in danger of treating them worse than Obama. And neither one was right in treating the media...that at some point Trump will need...this poorly. And no matter how much pom pom waivers like yourself think treating the media like crap is a good thing...at the end of the day it's a very poor strategy that will blow up in the Administration's face worse than it already is.
@txradioguy
Remember when Comey was at the back of the room by the blue drapes? Trump called him up and while Comey was walking toward him, Trump said, "This guy is more popular than I am." Then, he fired Comey. In the past few days, Trump said something like this, "Kushner is getting more press than I am." Kushner will be shut down one way or another. He said not long ago that he should be the one doing the press conferences because he was the only one who knew how to do it right. When he says something, take notice because it means what he is thinking. Since he said that, he has shut them down by preventing people from seeing them. He wants people to see only him on TV, not them.
Remember when he had his company and would call The New York Times using a fake name to tell them what Trump was doing so it would be in the newspaper. He had to keep his name in the newspaper constantly. This man is not right in the head and never will be. Don't expect normal behavior from someone who is not normal because that person is not normal.
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That's weird... cause I suffered through eight loooong years of press briefings, Obama speeches and "events" rife with idiot left slobbering celebrities and never saw any such "bad treatment" by Obama. He was their god, their savior, their un-American Idol! But yeah... I could understand him treating them with disdain. The arrogant POS did, after all, hate (all) Americans. ^-^
He treated anyone whom he didn't view as an equal or peer with disdain. To include the media.
They kissed his backside...he smacked them in the mouth and they said thank you.
That's why I'm saying this isn't a road that Trump needs to go down.
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@txradioguy
Remember when Comey was at the back of the room by the blue drapes? Trump called him up and while Comey was talking toward him, Trump said, "This guy is more popular than I am." Then, he fired Comey. In the past few days, Trump said something like this, "Kushner is getting more press than I am." Kushner will be shut down one way or another. He said not long ago that he should be the one doing the press conferences because he was the only one who knew how to do it right. When he says something, take notice because it means what he is thinking. Since he said that, he has shut them down by preventing people from seeing them. He wants people to see only him on TV, not them.
Remember when he had his company and would call The New York Times using a fake name to tell them what Trump was doing so it would be in the newspaper. He had to keep his name in the newspaper constantly. This man is not right in the head and never will be. Don't expect normal behavior from someone who is not normal because that person is not normal.
@Victoria33 yup I remember all of that quite well.
He HAS to be the center of attention no matter what.
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He treated anyone whom he didn't view as an equal or peer with disdain. To include the media.
They kissed his backside...he smacked them in the mouth and they said thank you.
That's why I'm saying this isn't a road that Trump needs to go down.
I disagree. I think Trump should smack them down every chance he gets. It will get plenty of attention in the media and folks might start recognizing just how biased the media in this country has become. Drawing attention to the problem can't hurt, IOW. We already know how things will "go back to" if/when the demoncrats get back into power. Nothing Trump does or does not do now will ever change that fact or reality. Trump should go for it.
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@Victoria33 yup I remember all of that quite well.
He HAS to be the center of attention no matter what.
Well then.... judging by every single day's MSN home page (4-5 articles on Trump did this, Trump said that, Trump didn't say or do something, etc.)....
Trump must be in Trump-heaven these days.
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Are you sure the discussion is my ppst, @DCPatriot. The thread traces back to @Victoria33 .
OMG! I apologize. @Suppressed
Saw that she pinged you in that "quote" and subconsciously attributed it to you.
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Crap in one hand demand in the other and see which fills up first.
Your attempt to come in and rescue your fellow sycophant is noble if not futile. You're trying to distract from RiV answering the question first.
Not gonna work.
Trumps brazen and overt attacks on the media both as a candidate and as President are legion on both video audio and social media.
The threads about them reside in the very archives of this forum.
But then you already knew that.
Go light your flaming strawman and fish for red herrings somewhere else
*****rollingeyes***** Just as I suspected. You have nothing, as usual.
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@txradioguy
On a side note, this attitude that some have that the democrats did bad things so we can too is not winning, its surrender.
@Cripplecreek
You are soooo correct. I hear/read that all the time on this forum and on the news. Individual posters and people on the news, (especially Fox News), when something Trump did is the subject, deflect to try to change the subject: "But Hillary did 'x'..." But Obama did 'x'....", "But Bill Clinton did 'x'".... If one took those words away from Hannity, he could not speak. Hillary, Obama, B. Clinton, are not the president - what they did is of no consequence when Trump's behavior is the subject. People are beating a dead horse to try to provide cover for Trump's abnormal behavior.
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Well then.... judging by every single day's MSN home page (4-5 articles on Trump did this, Trump said that, Trump didn't say or do something, etc.)....
Trump must be in Trump-heaven these days.
He must be. Read "The Art of the comeback". He dedicates almost an entire chapter to the concept 'there is no such thing as bad publicity' (also a major concept in The Art of the Deal) and that it doesn't' matter what the headlines say, as long as you are in the headlines.
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@Cripplecreek
You are soooo correct. I hear/read that all the time on this forum and on the news. Individual posters and people on the news, (especially Fox News), when something Trump did is the subject, deflect to try to change the subject: "But Hillary did 'x'..." But Obama did 'x'....", "But Bill Clinton did 'x'".... If one took those words away from Hannity, he could not speak. Hillary, Obama, B. Clinton, are not the president - what they did is of no consequence when Trump's behavior is the subject. People are beating a dead horse to try to provide cover for Trump's abnormal behavior.
"Abnormal behavior"? More like "aberrant behavior". He beat Hillary, so it's all forgiven. Just ask Mark Davis and the rest of the lineup at Salem Radio.
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"Abnormal behavior"? More like "aberrant behavior".
@Night Hides Not
"aberrant behavior" is good, too.
Definition of "aberrant":
departing from an accepted standard.
synonyms: deviant · deviating · divergent · abnormal · atypical · anomalous · irregular · nonconformist · rogue · strange · odd · peculiar · uncommon · freakish · quirky · twisted
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OMG! I apologize. @Suppressed
Saw that she pinged you in that "quote" and subconsciously attributed it to you.
Just do me a favor and don't ever ping me to your nonsense. Thanks in advance.
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He must be. Read "The Art of the comeback". He dedicates almost an entire chapter to the concept 'there is no such thing as bad publicity' (also a major concept in The Art of the Deal) and that it doesn't' matter what the headlines say, as long as you are in the headlines.
@AbaraXas
Yes, I have read that in his book before; he means it and has done it all his adult life - kept his name in the news, whether it was good or bad. That is exactly what he does now - uses his tweets to cause chaos so he stays in the news every single day. He did it in his campaign - kept creating chaos every day to stay in the news every day. Other candidates were normal in their statements and that didn't get reported most of the time - it was Trump's outrageous tweets and bombastic rallies, attacking the other candidates and media, in the news every single day.
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Good on Trump for showing the media that they should be news reporters not news makers. They themselves are no longer THE news other than their whining like babies.
There are many there and here that could use a sound bare-assed over-the-knee spanking.
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Thomas Jefferson still declared a free press to be better than the alternative. He said that the only regulation of the press should come from an informed and discerning public, not from government.
Yes, but some historical context was in order. In his time, the literacy rate in the country was between 50-60% and most states only allowed white, male, property owners voting rights.
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@Victoria33 yup I remember all of that quite well.
He HAS to be the center of attention no matter what.
IMO ... this is still nonsense.
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You have anything to support that theory? *****rollingeyes*****
It does get tiresome, doesn't it @DCPatriot :shrug:
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He must be. Read "The Art of the comeback". He dedicates almost an entire chapter to the concept 'there is no such thing as bad publicity' (also a major concept in The Art of the Deal) and that it doesn't' matter what the headlines say, as long as you are in the headlines.
That's show-biz! Always leave them wanting more is yet another SB meme I suspect we'll be experiencing.....lol.
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Good on Trump for showing the media that they should be news reporters not news makers. They themselves are no longer THE news other than their whining like babies.
There are many there and here that could use a sound bare-assed over-the-knee spanking.
:thumbsup3: @anubias
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It does get tiresome, doesn't it @DCPatriot :shrug:
Yes your unabashed love for everything Trump and your constant belief that he can never EVER do anything wrong grew tiresome quite awhile back.
Now...do you care to finally show where @Victoria33 was wrong in what she said?
Or are you just going to duck dodge and delay as normal?
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Good on Trump for showing the media that they should be news reporters not news makers. They themselves are no longer THE news other than their whining like babies.
I agree.
There are many there and here that could use a sound bare-assed over-the-knee spanking.
Hey now.... I got plenty of that kind of "attention" while growing up. I deserved it, too. ^-^
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OMG! I apologize. @Suppressed
Saw that she pinged you in that "quote" and subconsciously attributed it to you.
No need to apologize to me, @DCPatriot. I was just giving credit where it was due.
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That's show-biz! Always leave them wanting more is yet another SB meme I suspect we'll be experiencing.....lol.
Trouble is, his version is Always leave them wanting.
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Yes your unabashed love for everything Trump and your constant belief that he can never EVER do anything wrong grew tiresome quite awhile back.
And your unabashed hate for everything President Trump and your constant belief that he can never EVER do anything right is not only tiresome, it is wrong. :shrug:
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Trouble is, his version is Always leave them wanting.
Ehhh.... since it ain't over yet, that remains to be seen.
But.... I was supremely disappointed in George W. Bush during his 2nd term... after having voted for him twice. And boy did he leaving me wanting more (and then some). Here's hoping that meme won't repeat with Trump's 2nd (or 1st) term, eh?
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That's show-biz! Always leave them wanting more is yet another SB meme I suspect we'll be experiencing.....lol.
That you and I can agree on, this is 'show-biz'.
Mike Judge had it right.
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That you and I can agree on, this is 'show-biz'.
Mike Judge had it right.
Bring on the Monday Night Rehabilitations!
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Actually, it's the White House that comes across looking silly. And petty. And scared. And childish. And foolish. And thin-skinned. And immature. And short-sighted. And unprofessional. And clueless. Etc.
But as long as the low-information types get their red meat, I suppose it's great!
It would save us all a lot of time if you would just write "I hate Trump!"
We could more easily skip your messages and wouldn't have to waste our time reading your rant which boils down to that exact thing.
Yes, we know you hate Trump. You can quit reminding us. We get it.
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Maybe but anything that annoys the press is okay with me.
I concur. A Good strategy would be to just keep them in a state of extreme anger and hate. Let their bile spew forth in such a way that their hatred gets through to the viewers.
The New York Liberal Democrat controlled media system is the enemy, and we need to start treating it like an enemy.
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Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?
Some people are so angry that they were wrong about Trump winning the election that they grasp at straws to make themselves feel vindicated.
This is another one of those petty straws.
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Because, like it or not (probably not), a free press is critical to the republic.
It is, but we don't have one. We have a press that is effectively a "Borg Collective" group think Hive mind of Liberal orthodoxy.
We need a free press. We need the right wing to have equal access to the broadcasting system so that the public can hear the other side of the various issues that confront us as a nation.
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Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?
Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal. As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution. 'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.
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Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal. As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution. 'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.
Exactly!
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It would save us all a lot of time if you would just write "I hate Trump!"
We could more easily skip your messages and wouldn't have to waste our time reading your rant which boils down to that exact thing.
Yes, we know you hate Trump. You can quit reminding us. We get it.
I guess you want to operate at a very simplistic, monodimensional level. That makes sense, with the way your support leans. But my post was far more than hating Trump. My post referred to Trump's behavior...not hatred for him. My post referred to very specific adjectives that come to mind based on his behavior.
I don't hate Trump, so posting that would have been disingenuous. Instead, I posted points of more depth, and you might decide to ignore my posts in the future if that's too much information for you.
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Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal.
Destroying the propaganda machine ought to be our number one goal. Nothing has done more damage to this nation than the one sided spew from New York and Los Angeles. Nothing.
Bill Clinton (An utter human scumbag) was elected because of the New York media deliberately manipulating the news. So was Barack Obama. They also nearly got that psychotic hate witch criminal elected through the same sort of manipulation of the news.
If we aren't focused on destroying this dangerous propaganda system, we ought to be. And what is the conservative principle at stake? That both sides should have equal access in speaking to the public. BOTH SIDES, not ONE SIDE. BOTH!
As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution. 'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.
What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.
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Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?
Glenn Beck's Cheetos stunt was "a strategy intended to make [Trump] look ridiculous". But the fact that it was a failure made it mocked.
Similarly, Trump's ridiculous "strategy" might be intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous, but when it just makes him look more ridiculous to the majority of viewers (i.e., other than those already leaning his way), then it's worthy to comment that he's concocted yet another failure.
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I guess you want to operate at a very simplistic, monodimensional level. That makes sense, with the way your support leans. But my post was far more than hating Trump. My post referred to Trump's behavior...not hatred for him. My post referred to very specific adjectives that come to mind based on his behavior.
I don't hate Trump, so posting that would have been disingenuous. Instead, I posted points of more depth, and you might decide to ignore my posts in the future if that's too much information for you.
Variations on a theme.
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I hate Trump.
We know.
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We know.
You're a lying SOB, posting words that I never said.
But it doesn't surprise me. Dishonesty seems to be fine with your ideology.
Why don't you head on out...that way...
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Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal. As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution. 'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.
The lamestream leftist-biased media is a major part of the problem we conservatives are facing in this country right now. You're damned straight and better bet that MY conservative principles include combating, fighting and hopefully marginalizing that Pravda-like leftist arm of the Democrat Party that calls itself "the press". Hell yeah.
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The lamestream leftist-biased media is a major part of the problem we conservatives are facing in this country right now. You're damned straight and better bet that MY conservative principles include combating, fighting and hopefully marginalizing that Pravda-like leftist arm of the Democrat Party that calls itself "the press". Hell yeah.
The problem is that we (and by that I mean leaders) whine about unfairness but then don't get out and compete in the marketplace of ideas well. There are tons of available alternatives, each providing many viewpoints, but we spend all our (again, 'our' as by so-called leaders) bitching and whining versus making our case.
Information is a free market idea like any product. When we want our product to succeed in the free market, we promote our product the best we can. We don't use the strong arm of the government to slap down the competition (cronyism at best, fascism at worst).
The current plan, to bar cameras from press briefings is asinine and does absolutely nothing to help our values- at that, it cuts ourselves off at the knees- removing the visual evidence of our counter arguments if something said in a report is disputed. It is nothing more than a power play, and a foolish one at that- now it leaves the report to be the 'opinion' of the writer, not the facts as captured on film.
If we are failing in the market of ideas, we (again, leaders, not people like you and I whose voice is just a bit and byte) need a big mirror, not daddy government to bring a big hammer and silence anything we don't like.
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Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal. As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution. 'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.
Indeed.. I think there are far more pressing issues that we should be concerned about... Like Tax Reform..
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The lamestream leftist-biased media is a major part of the problem we conservatives are facing in this country right now. You're damned straight and better bet that MY conservative principles include combating, fighting and hopefully marginalizing that Pravda-like leftist arm of the Democrat Party that calls itself "the press". Hell yeah.
So what do you what done??
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You're a lying SOB, posting words that I never said.
But it doesn't surprise me. Dishonesty seems to be fine with your ideology.
Why don't you head on out...that way...
From my recollection, it is about all you ever do say. Of course it is always crouched in other words, but the point always comes through.
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The problem is that we (and by that I mean leaders) whine about unfairness but then don't get out and compete in the marketplace of ideas well.
Ha! Now this is funny. You are calling that massive trillion dollar broadcasting infrastructure completely owned and controlled by the leftest "elite" members of our society a "free market."
There are tons of available alternatives, each providing many viewpoints, but we spend all our (again, 'our' as by so-called leaders) bitching and whining versus making our case.
What is this "alternative" that will allow Conservative voices to reach 20-30 million people every single day without being filtered by the left?
Information is a free market idea like any product.
"Information" is not a "free market." Information is power, and those people who have the ability to control it or substitute false information have the power to manipulate elections, and that is what they have been doing since at least John F. Kennedy.
When we want our product to succeed in the free market, we promote our product the best we can. We don't use the strong arm of the government to slap down the competition (cronyism at best, fascism at worst).
Competition? How do you have competition in a monopoly? There is no competition. I don't know of a single conservative news source that broadcasts to millions of people every night. All of them are in the hands of liberals, and liberal censors control what gets on the air.
The current plan, to bar cameras from press briefings is asinine and does absolutely nothing to help our values-
It establishes the premise that we regard the Media people as enemy combatants for whom we no longer have any respect. It is a point that very badly needs to get made, and most especially made from a position of power, such as the office of the Presidency.
at that, it cuts ourselves off at the knees- removing the visual evidence of our counter arguments if something said in a report is disputed. It is nothing more than a power play, and a foolish one at that- now it leaves the report to be the 'opinion' of the writer, not the facts as captured on film.
You mean it more accurately reflects what has actually been going on for decades? Sounds good to me. Let it be known that these people have always been pushing their opinions while claiming they were "news." As far as a "power play" goes, yes it is, and that is exactly the point.
The Presidency lends legitimacy to the prattlings of these liberal agents, and now he has demonstrated that he can take it away by denying them face time on Camera in his press conferences.
As the French put it " à bon chat, bon rat."
If we are failing in the market of ideas, we (again, leaders, not people like you and I whose voice is just a bit and byte) need a big mirror, not daddy government to bring a big hammer and silence anything we don't like.
We aren't failing in the marketplace of ideas because there is no open market of ideas. There is a socialist controlled "stage" upon which puppets mouth words and make gestures. A market place of ideas would allow us to show anti-abortion information, or information about the incidence of diseases running through the homosexual communities. It would allow us to point out information about Muslim practices such as this (http://www.barenakedislam.com/2017/06/13/and-you-thought-muslim-cruelty-to-animals-was-only-limited-to-dogs-and-barbaric-islamic-halal-animal-slaughter/), or how the crime statistics are always hushed up to ignore the elephant in the room.
We operate in a system where the left controls and censors what the people may hear. It is a system that turns the very purpose of "free speech" on it's ear. And it's not a "free market" of ideas.
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We know.
I didn't think we were in the habit around these parts of materially altering someone's post and then claiming it to be a quote. That's downright dishonest.
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Ha! Now this is funny. You are calling that massive trillion dollar broadcasting infrastructure completely owned and controlled by the leftest "elite" members of our society a "free market."
What is this "alternative" that will allow Conservative voices to reach 20-30 million people every single day without being filtered by the left?
"Information" is not a "free market." Information is power, and those people who have the ability to control it or substitute false information have the power to manipulate elections, and that is what they have been doing since at least John F. Kennedy.
Competition? How do you have competition in a monopoly? There is no competition. I don't know of a single conservative news source that broadcasts to millions of people every night. All of them are in the hands of liberals, and liberal censors control what gets on the air.
It establishes the premise that we regard the Media people as enemy combatants for whom we no longer have any respect. It is a point that very badly needs to get made, and most especially made from a position of power, such as the office of the Presidency.
You mean it more accurately reflects what has actually been going on for decades? Sounds good to me. Let it be known that these people have always been pushing their opinions while claiming they were "news." As far as a "power play" goes, yes it is, and that is exactly the point.
The Presidency lends legitimacy to the prattlings of these liberal agents, and now he has demonstrated that he can take it away by denying them face time on Camera in his press conferences.
As the French put it " à bon chat, bon rat."
We aren't failing in the marketplace of ideas because there is no open market of ideas. There is a socialist controlled "stage" upon which puppets mouth words and make gestures. A market place of ideas would allow us to show anti-abortion information, or information about the incidence of diseases running through the homosexual communities. It would allow us to point out information about Muslim practices such as this (http://www.barenakedislam.com/2017/06/13/and-you-thought-muslim-cruelty-to-animals-was-only-limited-to-dogs-and-barbaric-islamic-halal-animal-slaughter/), or how the crime statistics are always hushed up to ignore the elephant in the room.
We operate in a system where the left controls and censors what the people may hear. It is a system that turns the very purpose of "free speech" on it's ear. And it's not a "free market" of ideas.
So what do you want done??
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I didn't think we were in the habit around these parts of materially altering someone's post and then claiming it to be a quote. That's downright dishonest.
It's called "sock puppetting" and it is a common enough joke on some sites. (http://ace.mu.nu/)
People can read the exchange for themselves. If they are somehow fooled or misled, then they are too dumb to be arguing with people on the internet.
Most can see it for the amusement that it is intended to be. He just doesn't like it because it rings too close to true, and people can see that this is so.
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So what do you want done??
I want people to be made aware of the problem. Once they see and understand it for what it is, then we can talk about ways to fix it.
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I want people to be made aware of the problem. Once they see and understand it for what it is, then we can talk about ways to fix it.
I think the majority of the Americans either don't care or just ignore the complaints about the media that has been going for 20 years. Also, there is a group of people who thinks there is bigger fish to fry.
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It's called "sock puppetting" and it is a common enough joke on some sites. (http://ace.mu.nu/)
People can read the exchange for themselves. If they are somehow fooled or misled, then they are too dumb to be arguing with people on the internet.
Most can see it for the amusement that it is intended to be. He just doesn't like it because it rings too close to true, and people can see that this is so.
Nope, not familiar with it.
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Ha! Now this is funny. You are calling that massive trillion dollar broadcasting infrastructure completely owned and controlled by the leftest "elite" members of our society a "free market."
The problem is in thinking that is decades out of date. The media is no longer ABS/CBS/NBS/CNNBS. At that, their market share compared to the internet is small. A vast majority of news media is now consumed outside the old world broadcasting networks.
What is this "alternative" that will allow Conservative voices to reach 20-30 million people every single day without being filtered by the left?
This little thing called the internet (not to mention competing news networks to the big 'bs' networks). Let's look at CNN for example. February 2016 (easiest month to find), CNN had an average of 1.6 million viewers. A lot, right?
Drudge Report's average viewers more than that per day.
Hell, I think FR gets more viewers than that (differentiated from views). So does Breitbart.
Thinking in terms of CNN/ABS/CBS/NBS and the New York Times is like thinking in terms of comparing modern cars to the 57 Chevy.
Our problem isn't access, it is how we use it.
"Information" is not a "free market." Information is power, and those people who have the ability to control it or substitute false information have the power to manipulate elections, and that is what they have been doing since at least John F. Kennedy.
It absolutely is, and it is one of the biggest, most dynamic markets around. As long as you don't think in 1970s terms (like many in the Republican leadership do which is why they still bitch and moan about the BS networks instead of leading), it may seem there is no market, but this is 2017 and a vast majority of media is not consumed off those networks.
If it weren't for airports, nursing homes, and the DC Beltway circle jerk, the BS networks would have very little audience at all.
Competition? How do you have competition in a monopoly? There is no competition. I don't know of a single conservative news source that broadcasts to millions of people every night. All of them are in the hands of liberals, and liberal censors control what gets on the air.
ONN and Fox, both on DirecTV have the same potential audience as CNN- people only need to freely choose that. Even Glen Beck's network is in the homes of millions and millions of households who could watch- but they choose not to.
But you are still thinking in 1970s terms regarding how people get their information.
It establishes the premise that we regard the Media people as enemy combatants for whom we no longer have any respect. It is a point that very badly needs to get made, and most especially made from a position of power, such as the office of the Presidency.
We are the media, each and every one of us. Who you refer to as the media or press are just a handful of publication companies (be it TV or print). They are not the enemy, they are the competition for ideas. Until we learn to sell our ideas, we will be whining about the same things. Shutting them down with the hammer of the government makes us not only no better than liberals who do the same- it makes us the same as them.
You mean it more accurately reflects what has actually been going on for decades? Sounds good to me. Let it be known that these people have always been pushing their opinions while claiming they were "news." As far as a "power play" goes, yes it is, and that is exactly the point.
The fault here is in the viewers, not in those pushing the opinions. People choosing to buy their product choose to take it in knowing it is bad for them- they freely choose to set aside researching for themselves and being skeptical- just like eating fast food every day even though you know it is crap. Using the hammer of the government to force what we think is 'good' is no better than using the hammer of the government to force food we think is good. In the end, you just get more government controlling more and more just to fix our own problems.
The Presidency lends legitimacy to the prattlings of these liberal agents, and now he has demonstrated that he can take it away by denying them face time on Camera in his press conferences.
As the French put it " à bon chat, bon rat."
We aren't failing in the marketplace of ideas because there is no open market of ideas. There is a socialist controlled "stage" upon which puppets mouth words and make gestures. A market place of ideas would allow us to show anti-abortion information, or information about the incidence of diseases running through the homosexual communities. It would allow us to point out information about Muslim practices such as this (http://www.barenakedislam.com/2017/06/13/and-you-thought-muslim-cruelty-to-animals-was-only-limited-to-dogs-and-barbaric-islamic-halal-animal-slaughter/), or how the crime statistics are always hushed up to ignore the elephant in the room.
We operate in a system where the left controls and censors what the people may hear. It is a system that turns the very purpose of "free speech" on it's ear. And it's not a "free market" of ideas.
Lather, rinse, repeat all my statements above.
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It's called "sock puppetting" and it is a common enough joke on some sites. (http://ace.mu.nu/)
People can read the exchange for themselves. If they are somehow fooled or misled, then they are too dumb to be arguing with people on the internet.
Most can see it for the amusement that it is intended to be. He just doesn't like it because it rings too close to true, and people can see that this is so.
I'm pretty sure that's not what it's called. And I'm pretty sure it's against the rules here. Just sayin....
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I didn't think we were in the habit I hate Trump around these parts of materially I hate Trump altering someone's post and I hate Trump then claiming it to be a quote. That's I hate Trump downright dishonest.
Quoting for untruth.
000hehehehe
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I'm pretty sure that's not what it's called. And I'm pretty sure it's against the rules here. Just sayin....
You're 100% right.
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Quoting for untruth.
000hehehehe
Don't be starting that sh*t. :nono: **nononono*
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IT IS FORUM POLICY TO NOT ALTER ANOTHER POSTER'S WORDS AND PRESENT IT AS A QUOTE.
THERE IS ENOUGH FAKE NEWS WITHOUT CREATING MORE HERE. NEXT TIME, TIME OUT.
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The problem is that we (and by that I mean leaders) whine about unfairness but then don't get out and compete in the marketplace of ideas well. There are tons of available alternatives, each providing many viewpoints, but we spend all our (again, 'our' as by so-called leaders) bitching and whining versus making our case.
Information is a free market idea like any product. When we want our product to succeed in the free market, we promote our product the best we can. We don't use the strong arm of the government to slap down the competition (cronyism at best, fascism at worst).
The current plan, to bar cameras from press briefings is asinine and does absolutely nothing to help our values- at that, it cuts ourselves off at the knees- removing the visual evidence of our counter arguments if something said in a report is disputed. It is nothing more than a power play, and a foolish one at that- now it leaves the report to be the 'opinion' of the writer, not the facts as captured on film.
If we are failing in the market of ideas, we (again, leaders, not people like you and I whose voice is just a bit and byte) need a big mirror, not daddy government to bring a big hammer and silence anything we don't like.
Presidents McCain and Romney did it your way. It failed.
Trump's way is working. First he got elected, his way. Next he is enacting a conservative agenda, his way.
His term is four years, not four months. To issue effective and up to date "social media advice" you need to be current with the new paradigms, that are effective.