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I'll disagree with your final conclusion.
There ARE bad dogs.

I had a dog named Max. Typical mountain dog - crossed between G.Shepherd and Husky.
And like such a dog is laid out, he loved battle.
A holy terror to coyotes. And any stray dog that entered onto his territory was immediately dispatched - Didn't really matter how many.

Such a dog has a preeminent value. His main job, and he did that job better than any.
But the animals within his care were also fair game.
He took out several chickens. He wouldn't stop shagging after the horses. He picked all the hair off my sister's cat. He wouldn't let up from it, no matter what.

And then one day he was gone. The old man had enough.

But that dog was an exception, not the rule. Many dogs like him have lived and died within our gates without that trouble. So it wasn't in the raising of him... But rather, a nature particular to him. He was all outlaw, and could not function within the societal bounds, where many others could.

Now, I will admit that dogs tend toward being a commodity on a ranch. They have a job, and that job puts em in harms way. So their lives are not of the same sort of ease one might find in the city, and they surely won't last as long. But their value is great - They are not summarily dispatched without reason. They are not destroyed without some final straw.

That's what this episode sounds like to me.

But at the same time, it is a more nuanced relationship than it seems. For instance a dog is likely to be able to nip at folks - even children - with far more toleration than city folks could bear. Some dgs, it's in their nature, and a kid needs to learn how to avoid it... Some dogs it's unlikely, and there's a reason why the child got a nip and it's marked off as serving the kid right, and he FAFO'd. Every redneck boy has one of them stories.

And I was sitting on the porch one time at one of my friend's places... The rooster went off on one of the yard dogs... It went on a bit, and the dog finally lost his patience and shook the rooster to death - Just that quick. He dropped the bird and looked at the old man with an 'oh, shit!' expression... The old man waived him off. Said, "Served him right... That damn rooster went after Margie (his wife) and was due to go to the pot." So it was the rooster's fault, and the dog was free to make him pay. But that dog didn't have it in him to kill chickens as a normal sequence.

Another time, down south, at one of my kin's place, the yard dogs set off nipping at all the kids... And they all went screaming and crying into the house... Well the man folk went out back to figure this out, and there;s one of the dogs, laying in the yard, dang near dead, with a water moccasin, dead, not a far off. That dog recovered, and got a steak dinner out of that deal.

So it ain't so easy as you put it. It's a nuanced relationship, and farm dogs generally have a whole lot of leeway, with a whole lot of understanding wrt their nature. They know their place. They know where the lines are. If they can't abide that, it's just a matter of time.

Great stories.  :beer:
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Lee Zeldin: Trump Should Hold Madison Square Garden Rally, Visit Black Churches

Hannah Knudsen 27 Apr 2024

It would send a strong message if former President Donald Trump visits minority communities in New York, showing he is a “man of the people,” former Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-NY) said during an interview on Breitbart News Saturday, explaining that the former president would receive a “hero’s welcome” holding rallies in places such as Madison Square Garden.

When asked if Trump should hold a rally at Madison Square Garden, making a play for New York, Zeldin said the former president absolutely should.

“Yes, absolutely. He should do it, and he will sell it out. President Trump, when he shows up, if he shows up in a place like Madison Square Garden or Yankee Stadium or Citi Field, or the Barclays Center for any of these sporting events or UFC matches that are going on, he’s getting these hero’s welcome. He will continue to get that type of reception if he continues to show up in these big arenas,” he said, noting that President Biden does not receive the same welcome.

“When somebody like President Trump shows up at one of these venues —  he should have the rally. … I think that the event in what they call the world’s most famous arena would be something that would send shockwaves across this entire country,” Zeldin said. “The reception would be amazing. I can’t wait to see it actually happen.”

https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2024/04/27/exclusive-lee-zeldin-trump-should-hold-madison-square-garden-rally-visit-black-churches/
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I have neighbors who save the $100 vet bill and humanely put down their gravely ill pups with a single shot.  No less or more humane that the vet injecting the Pentobarbibal.  I've wouldn't be able to pull the trigger in that scenario, but have no problem with those who do.

Still, the way she communicated the pet euthanasia issue was massively dumb. There was no reason for any form of public discussion around it. 
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I know how this story would have changed completely with just two words.........Pit Bull, and there would not have been a single tear shed.

You are correct; Pit Bull, Doberman or Rottweiler. I myself am partial to Dobies.  They are gentle babies.
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All dogs have the natural instinct to chase prey. It’s up to the owner to train them

My bird dogs ignore everything but their target. None of them chase deer cause I break them from that

Years ago, we had somebody who shot a neighbor dog because it was chasing a deer. It turned out to be a very expensive decision for that person and rightly so

And 14 months is still considered a pup. Especially larger breeds. And a hunting dog is geared more towards chasing birds

I agree with the poster that stated it sounded like she didn’t even bother to train it and then was upset when the dog did what it naturally is supposed to do. Dogs don’t learn like we do. But they can learn

I had a labrador once that was so well trained against chasing livestock that you could take him to a city park where people were feeding ducks and he would ignore them. But my son would take him duck hunting and he would retrieve every bird

We’ve raised chickens and labradors, and only once had a problem that I fixed, and the dog never touched a chicken again but would hunt his ass off in the bird woods


I’ve always said there’s no such thing as a bad dog. It’s bad owners that are the problem

I'll disagree with your final conclusion.
There ARE bad dogs.

I had a dog named Max. Typical mountain dog - crossed between G.Shepherd and Husky.
And like such a dog is laid out, he loved battle.
A holy terror to coyotes. And any stray dog that entered onto his territory was immediately dispatched - Didn't really matter how many.

Such a dog has a preeminent value. His main job, and he did that job better than any.
But the animals within his care were also fair game.
He took out several chickens. He wouldn't stop shagging after the horses. He picked all the hair off my sister's cat. He wouldn't let up from it, no matter what.

And then one day he was gone. The old man had enough.

But that dog was an exception, not the rule. Many dogs like him have lived and died within our gates without that trouble. So it wasn't in the raising of him... But rather, a nature particular to him. He was all outlaw, and could not function within the societal bounds, where many others could.

Now, I will admit that dogs tend toward being a commodity on a ranch. They have a job, and that job puts em in harms way. So their lives are not of the same sort of ease one might find in the city, and they surely won't last as long. But their value is great - They are not summarily dispatched without reason. They are not destroyed without some final straw.

That's what this episode sounds like to me.

But at the same time, it is a more nuanced relationship than it seems. For instance a dog is likely to be able to nip at folks - even children - with far more toleration than city folks could bear. Some dgs, it's in their nature, and a kid needs to learn how to avoid it... Some dogs it's unlikely, and there's a reason why the child got a nip and it's marked off as serving the kid right, and he FAFO'd. Every redneck boy has one of them stories.

And I was sitting on the porch one time at one of my friend's places... The rooster went off on one of the yard dogs... It went on a bit, and the dog finally lost his patience and shook the rooster to death - Just that quick. He dropped the bird and looked at the old man with an 'oh, shit!' expression... The old man waived him off. Said, "Served him right... That damn rooster went after Margie (his wife) and was due to go to the pot." So it was the rooster's fault, and the dog was free to make him pay. But that dog didn't have it in him to kill chickens as a normal sequence.

Another time, down south, at one of my kin's place, the yard dogs set off nipping at all the kids... And they all went screaming and crying into the house... Well the men folk went out back to figure this out, and there's one of the dogs, laying in the yard, dang near dead, with a water moccasin, dead, not a far off. That dog recovered, and got a steak dinner out of that deal.

So it ain't so easy as you put it. It's a nuanced relationship, and farm dogs generally have a whole lot of leeway, with a whole lot of understanding wrt their nature. They know their place. They know where the lines are. If they can't abide that, it's just a matter of time.
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Remember Romney got in trouble for Seamus?
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China is patenting a battery right now that is not affected by heat or cold-or affected very little.

Yeah your circle of friends say they will not buy one but once they drive one and the kinks get worked out they will and prices for ev's are coming don, range is going up every year.

My dad built spec homes. He remembers when air nailers first came out. All the construction guys said they would never replace the hammer, too bulky, dragging along an air hose etc.

Eventually. But the market should decide, not inept bureaucrats.

Cordless drills have been around since at least the 70's. They were crap. Anyone remember nickel-cadmium batteries??? It took about 25 years for them to mature to the point of being a useful tool for regular use.

I suggest you rent a Tesla and take a trip from coast to coast and see how it goes... It will add a lot of time to your trip and require considerable planning. If you're retired, great. If you work for a living, not so good. If you do it in the winter in the northern part of the country it could take you a LONG time if you make it at all.
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World News / Re: Royal Happenings
« Last post by libertybele on Today at 07:36:54 pm »
King Charles: At last some cautious optimism after the royal gloom

This is the first time that Buckingham Palace has said anything officially about the King's condition since revealing his cancer diagnosis.

So it's a significant moment, breaking the silence with a positive message about his treatment and announcing, if not a complete return to good health, then at least the first green shoots of recovery.

There has been so much terrible news for the royals this year - the Princess of Wales as well as the King facing cancer - that this must feel like a badly needed change.

Like the picture of the King and Queen in Buckingham Palace's gardens, there's a touch of summer after a long bleak winter.

The dramatic Buckingham Palace statement, which more or less came with its own drum roll, has created a much more optimistic mood.

King Charles is going to resume the type of big engagements that he's had to cancel all year.

Anyone who has gone on a royal visit will have seen how much encounters with the public cheer him up, he's often shaking hands and swapping jokes with those he meets. He does literally seem to want to be a hands-on monarch........

..............The latest news suggests the King is well enough to host a state visit too, with the Emperor and Empress of Japan arriving in late June - an event which would usually involve the full royal red carpet treatment. These are the soft power moments where the King, as head of state, plays a pivotal role.

The last state visit was by the South Korean president and it showed the King's willingness to be creative with diplomacy, including having the band outside Buckingham Palace play 'Gangnam Style'. That was only before Christmas but it seems like a lifetime ago in royal news.

Royal commentator Richard Palmer, who has followed Charles's visits for many years, thinks the King will be keen to get his reign back on course.

"The King got off to a tremendous start in the new reign, much better than many royal watchers expected, but his and Kate's health problems have knocked the monarchy off course. He is a workaholic so I'm sure he has missed public-facing duties," said Mr Palmer.

He'll now have a second chance to start his reign.......................

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68906426

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I know how this story would have changed completely with just two words.........Pit Bull, and there would not have been a single tear shed.
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China is patenting a battery right now that is not affected by heat or cold-or affected very little.

Yeah your circle of friends say they will not buy one but once they drive one and the kinks get worked out they will and prices for ev's are coming don, range is going up every year.

My dad built spec homes. He remembers when air nailers first came out. All the construction guys said they would never replace the hammer, too bulky, dragging along an air hose etc.

$20+K for a replacement battery?  The feel of a V-8 truck?  Folks whose lives and livelyhoods are centered around the petrochemical industry?  Climate Scam, being exposed in earnest more by the day?

You don't know Texas very well do you?

I'd say not only that circle, but Texas in general
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