The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 07, 2020, 04:52:28 am
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https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro-deaths-coronavirus-memos-january-da3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html (https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro-deaths-coronavirus-memos-january-da3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html)
In late January, President Trump's economic adviser Peter Navarro warned his White House colleagues the novel coronavirus could take more than half a million American lives and cost close to $6 trillion, according to memos obtained by Axios.
By late February, Navarro was even more alarmed, and he warned his colleagues, in another memo, that up to two million Americans could die of the virus.
Driving the news: Navarro's grim estimates are set out in two memos — one dated Jan. 29 and addressed to the National Security Council, the other dated Feb. 23 and addressed to the president. The NSC circulated both memos around the White House and multiple agencies.
In the first memo, which the New York Times was first to report on, Navarro makes his case for "an immediate travel ban on China."
The second lays the groundwork for supplemental requests from Congress, with the warning: "This is NOT a time for penny-pinching or horse trading on the Hill."
More of what he knew and when he knew it at link
Tomorrow some reporter will ask about this, and President Trump will become unhinged and blast them for such a nasty question, then he'll ask the reporter why they're not asking about what a great job the President did banning China early on.
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https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro-deaths-coronavirus-memos-january-da3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html (https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro-deaths-coronavirus-memos-january-da3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html)
Tomorrow some reporter will ask about this, and President Trump will become unhinged and blast them for such a nasty question, then he'll ask the reporter why they're not asking about what a great job the President did banning China early on.
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Trump's performance in these briefings is becoming more bonkers daily.
Anyone who thinks he's a shoo-in for re-election better wake up.
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In the President's defense there are no graphics, pictures, games or puzzles in the memo, and almost no mention of the President by name. It's like Navarro was hoping the President would ignore it.
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Is Axios a lefty publication? Trump banned planes from China on Jan.31st. Fake new much?
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Is Axios a lefty publication? Trump banned planes from China on Jan.31st. Fake new much?
a link was provided or google it for your favorite news source tomorrow when it gets published there.
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a link was provided or google it for your favorite news source tomorrow when it gets published there.
And? What is it they will ask about? It's the attitude. They are trying to make Trump look bad when it isn't merited. He has to delicately balance the pandemic shutdowns to save lives while keeping the economy as steady as possible. While long term impossible, hopefully his moves will keep us afloat. He has done everything possible to make this a short term pandemic. The numbers are guestimates. No one knows.
In the meantime, the Dem governors have encouraged public gatherings where this could become a true nightmare. They have denied their citizens the few cheap drugs that have been saving lives. When they finally called for appropriate distancing, it had already spread all over the area. Their behavior is inexcusable. Finally in April they wised up. Somewhat.
My gov. is an idiot. He would not allow Hydroxychloroquine in the state. He finally relented last week, but is hoarding the drugs. He claims he needs them for prisoners. More like he is hoarding it and passing it out to the PTB and family members. The rest of us, not so much. We're expendable. Our doctors can not prescribe it.
Why is that? They would love to destroy our economy so they can regain power. More dead people, more less Trump. Tank the economy, more less Trump. Their moves are blatantly obvious.
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And? What is it they will ask about? It's the attitude. They are trying to make Trump look bad when it isn't merited. He has to delicately balance the pandemic shutdowns to save lives while keeping the economy as steady as possible. While long term impossible, hopefully his moves will keep us afloat. He has done everything possible to make this a short term pandemic. The numbers are guestimates. No one knows.
In the meantime, the Dem governors have encouraged public gatherings where this could become a true nightmare. They have denied their citizens the few cheap drugs that have been saving lives. When they finally called for appropriate distancing, it had already spread all over the area. Their behavior is inexcusable. Finally in April they wised up. Somewhat.
My gov. is an idiot. He would not allow Hydroxychloroquine in the state. He finally relented last week, but is hoarding the drugs. He claims he needs them for prisoners. More like he is hoarding it and passing it out to the PTB and family members. The rest of us, not so much. We're expendable. Our doctors can not prescribe it.
Why is that? They would love to destroy our economy so they can regain power. More dead people, more less Trump. Tank the economy, more less Trump. Their moves are blatantly obvious.
You are watching a different movie than I am. There is little to gain by disputing everything about your interpretation. You see what you see. I see what I see. Thanx for your response @dancer
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I want to know what Ron Vera has to say about this.
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Navarro warned Trump in January about COVID-19, new report claims
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6147738376001
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Axios is okay, with precautions, I believe Senator Cotton tweeted one of their articles recently: https://twitter.com/SenTomCotton/status/1235278772166942722 (https://twitter.com/SenTomCotton/status/1235278772166942722) (of course, he's tweeted NYT too). Axios has some sort of special China update. I'd have no idea how one would describe their political updates.
Peter Navarro is an economist, he wrote or co-wrote a book "Death by China" which was made into a movie. I have not seen this, I am not aware of it's contents. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_China (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_China)
http://deathbychina.com/ (http://deathbychina.com/)
Maybe the movie is available in full or part at the above link.
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This will surely be addressed in the next press conference, save that Navarro is not a medical professional, he is a big hawk on China. Perhaps, this problem could have been minimized some. We will see what treatment it receives. It doesn't sound good on the face of it.
Also, in fact, importantly, these articles make it sound like Navarro has been at some of these coronavirus briefings.
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Title to me says a lot; circulated in the West Wing -- Jared Kushner. Now he's taking direction from Pence and involved with fighting the virus. **nononono*
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Title to me says a lot; circulated in the West Wing -- Jared Kushner. Now he's taking direction from Pence and involved with fighting the virus. **nononono*
Maybe, this would seem to hurt Trump's chances to be reelected though.
It looks real bad to me... I know, we were lacking testing kits until the end of February. We'll have to see where all of this goes.
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Take this article with three large boulders of salt: 1) It's posted by: Once-Ler; 2) First in to dump on the President: Absalom and 3) It's published in: Axios. This is commonly referred to as "three strikes".
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Title to me says a lot; circulated in the West Wing -- Jared Kushner. Now he's taking direction from Pence and involved with fighting the virus. **nononono*
I thought I read you were taking a few days off for a needed break @libertybele --- Did I misunderstand??
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Take this article with three large boulders of salt: 1) It's posted by: Once-Ler; 2) First in to dump on the President: Absalom and 3) It's published in: Axios. This is commonly referred to as "three strikes".
Navarro warned Trump in January about COVID-19, new report claims
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6147738376001
Catch up @Right_in_Virginia
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Take this article with three large boulders of salt: 1) It's posted by: Once-Ler; 2) First in to dump on the President: Absalom and 3) It's published in: Axios. This is commonly referred to as "three strikes".
This article is all over the net...every site I go to they have their own version of it..
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Title to me says a lot; circulated in the West Wing -- Jared Kushner. Now he's taking direction from Pence and involved with fighting the virus. **nononono*
I don't always agree, but I like your posts @libertybele
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In the President's defense there are no graphics, pictures, games or puzzles in the memo, and almost no mention of the President by name. It's like Navarro was hoping the President would ignore it.
Oh FFS. Give it a rest. Or go back to DU. Or both.
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This article is all over the net...every site I go to they have their own version of it..
We should expect this by now @mystery-ak It's been happening for four years. It's SOP.
I hope someday we can accept how this works and stop being afraid of it, Just a hope.
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This article is all over the net...every site I go to they have their own version of it..
It's called parroting propaganda.... and Rush does nice little montages on how the RL does that....
almost daily.
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Half a million deaths, huh? *****rollingeyes*****
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It's called parroting propaganda.... and Rush does nice little montages on how the RL does that....almost daily.
:thumbsup:
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I know what it is...instead of dismissing it maybe someone should reply to it...
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I know what it is...instead of dismissing it maybe someone should reply to it...
The administration always does @mystery-ak Always. I'm sure we'll hear about this from the "reporters" and then from POTUS this afternoon during today's briefing.
If anyone's interesting in watching. :shrug:
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It seems the story is still flying under the radar, so we will see what they say.
Navarro, China Hawk.
I do realize earlier this year, the Democrats were basically trying to stage a coup via impeachment, they were trying to overturn the results of a free election. I take this into account too.
The above and other variables and factors play into this, China not telling us the whole truth or maybe even any truth.
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Catch up @Right_in_Virginia
So ... your DNC talking points have been fed to the media. Big whoop. Your playbook is tiresome and stale and your people will choke on it in November.
And this pleases me. Bigly.
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It seems the story is still flying under the radar, so we will see what they say.
Navarro, China Hawk.
I do realize earlier this year, the Democrats were basically trying to stage a coup via impeachment, they were trying to overturn the results of a free election. I take this into account too.
@TomSea
24 hours after Navarro's Jan 29th memo the President began setting up the CV taskforce.
48 hours after the Jan 29th memo the President closed our borders to travel from China --- against the advice of many in the WH.
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Oh FFS. Give it a rest. Or go back to DU. Or both.
You sound very angry at me that Peter Navarro predicted a Pandemic and half a million dead in Jan while my President told me everything is under control. I'm sorry @XenaLee
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The administration always does @mystery-ak Always. I'm sure we'll hear about this from the "reporters" and then from POTUS this afternoon during today's briefing.
Tomorrow some reporter will ask about this, and President Trump will become unhinged and blast them for such a nasty question, then he'll ask the reporter why they're not asking about what a great job the President did banning China early on.
We agree again.
If anyone's interesting in watching. :shrug:
If my President is willing to spend up to 2 hours a day talking to me, I'll watch the press conference every time.
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So ... your DNC talking points have been fed to the media. Big whoop. Your playbook is tiresome and stale and your people will choke on it in November.
And this pleases me. Bigly.
My talking points? My playbook? I had no idea I welded such power.
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Take this article with three large boulders of salt: 1) It's posted by: Once-Ler; 2) First in to dump on the President: Absalom and 3) It's published in: Axios. This is commonly referred to as "three strikes".
@Right_in_Virginia
You forgot gospel according to RIV Strike 4 ..... Donald J. Trump is infallable.
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And? What is it they will ask about? It's the attitude. They are trying to make Trump look bad when it isn't merited. He has to delicately balance the pandemic shutdowns to save lives while keeping the economy as steady as possible. While long term impossible, hopefully his moves will keep us afloat. He has done everything possible to make this a short term pandemic. The numbers are guestimates. No one knows.
Why is that? They would love to destroy our economy so they can regain power. More dead people, more less Trump. Tank the economy, more less Trump. Their moves are blatantly obvious.
Early on Trump stated his priorities were, in order,
lives
safety
economy
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My talking points? My playbook? I had no idea I welded such power.
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Forget humour as it will get you nowhere w/this
mirthless posse of angry scowlers seeking a fight.
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National Review has a good informative write-up.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/white-house-officials-viewed-peter-navarros-early-warnings-about-coronavirus-as-alarmist/ (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/white-house-officials-viewed-peter-navarros-early-warnings-about-coronavirus-as-alarmist/)
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You sound very angry at me that Peter Navarro predicted a Pandemic and half a million dead in Jan while my President told me everything is under control. I'm sorry @XenaLee
Well.... at least we agree on one thing. Yes indeed. You are sorry.
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Early on Trump stated his priorities were, in order,
lives
safety
economy
You're right @truth_seeker . My President reiterates those priorities every day for 2 hours on live television to inform the American people in front of a hostile press. They are the priorities I look for in a leader. I can't say that about all 180+ countries infected with COVID-19
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You sound very angry at me that Peter Navarro predicted a Pandemic and half a million dead in Jan while my President told me everything is under control. I'm sorry @XenaLee
Well.... at least we agree on one thing. Yes indeed. You are sorry.
I hope that felt good for you @XenaLee
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@Right_in_Virginia
You forgot gospel according to RIV Strike 4 ..... Donald J. Trump is infallable.
This is a really nonsensical post. I've never said the President is infallible. He's clearly not.
But hey, since this is the best argument you've got ... you've my permission to use it. Bless your heart.
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This article is all over the net...every site I go to they have their own version of it..
Yep, seen this @#$% earlier today. From my comment on another discussion site:
Let the Trump Administration's actions demonstrate whether or not he took this coronavirus seriously:
China informed WHO of the outbreak in Wuhan of unknown cause: December 31, 2019, https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/ (https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/)
CDC issued a Level 1 travel notice for Wuhan, China: January 6, 2020, https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2020/01/cdc-issues-level-1-watch-travel-notice.html (https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2020/01/cdc-issues-level-1-watch-travel-notice.html)
CDC established a coronavirus incident management system: January 7, 2020, https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/videos/coronavirus/COVID-19-webinar.pdf (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/videos/coronavirus/COVID-19-webinar.pdf)
The US started screening arriving passengers from China: January 17, 2020, JFK, SFO, LAX https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1 (https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1) ; O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson January 22, 2020, https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/21/us-screenings-coronavirus-expanded-airports-atlanta-chicago/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/21/us-screenings-coronavirus-expanded-airports-atlanta-chicago/)
Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health working developing a vaccine for coronavirus: January 20, 2020, https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/health/coronavirus-nih-vaccine-development/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/health/coronavirus-nih-vaccine-development/index.html)
CDC activated its emergency operations center: January 20, 2020, https://emergency.cdc.gov/recentincidents/index.asp?cid=EPR-homepage (https://emergency.cdc.gov/recentincidents/index.asp?cid=EPR-homepage)
Pharmaceuticals company working with US government to develop vaccine: January 22, 2020, Moderna, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/moderna-is-working-on-a-vaccine-for-chinas-deadly-coronavirus.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/moderna-is-working-on-a-vaccine-for-chinas-deadly-coronavirus.html)
CDC sought “special emergency authorization†from FDA to allow states to use its coronavirus test: January 23, 2020, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-cdc-idUSKBN1ZM2XS (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-cdc-idUSKBN1ZM2XS)
Those actions were all before Peter Navarro's January 29th memo. What did the Trump Administration do on January 29th that either preceded or may have been in response to Navarro's memo:
White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force: January 29, 2020, https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480627-white-house-announces-task-force-to-monitor-coronavirus (https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480627-white-house-announces-task-force-to-monitor-coronavirus)
US personnel evacuated from Wuhan: January 29, 2020 https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-chartering-evacuation-flight-wuhan-coronavirus-zone-california/story?id=68571310 (https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-chartering-evacuation-flight-wuhan-coronavirus-zone-california/story?id=68571310)
And what did the Trump Administration do immediately after Navarro's memo:
State Department raised the travel advisory for China to Level 4, do not travel: January 31, 2020, https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-flight-ban-delta-cuts-all-flights-white-house/4620989002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-flight-ban-delta-cuts-all-flights-white-house/4620989002/)
People entering the US from China forbidden: Announced January 31, 2020, effective February 2, 2020, https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html) This effectively ended flights from and to China, for obvious reasons.
The facts show: 1. the Trump Administration took this coronavirus seriously from the start, weeks before China admitted human-human transmission had occurred; whether due to Navarro's January 29th memo or independently in parallel with it, the Trump Administration acted that day and immediately after consistent with and in proportion to Navarro's advice.
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Take this article with three large boulders of salt: 1) It's posted by: Once-Ler; 2) First in to dump on the President: Absalom and 3) It's published in: Axios. This is commonly referred to as "three strikes".
@Right_in_Virginia You forgot gospel according to RIV Strike 4 ..... Donald J. Trump is infallible.
Kick a Trump-bot when their down used to be my favorite time, and your post is too funny @catfish1957 , but I'm conflicted...mainly because that sh1t will hit the fan in just a few hours and I want to experience the revelations on their own terms. President Trump has not yet spoken on it, but we know it will be incredible, because we know the MSM will not ignore it.
baby steps to the task force press conference
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Kick a Trump-bot when their down used to be my favorite time, and your post is too funny @catfish1957 , but I'm conflicted...mainly because that sh1t will hit the fan in just a few hours and I want to experience the revelations on their own terms. President Trump has not yet spoken on it, but we know it will be incredible, because we know the MSM will not ignore it.
baby steps to the task force press conference
From a practical standpoint, the Axios Navarro report better be false. This is a political suicide note to the Trump administrative if there is validity. Not mobilizing contingency plans to address this ?........ I choose to think the Trump administration is/was smarter than that, and at least at this point give him the benefit of the doubt.
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From a practical standpoint, the Axios Navarro report better be false. This is a political suicide note to the Trump administrative if there is validity. Not mobilizing contingency plans to address this ?........ I choose to think the Trump administration is/was smarter than that, and at least at this point him the benefit of the doubt.
We will know soon. I think Fox and OANN will still forgive his foot-dragging @catfish1957 if it's true. I think it takes a lot to change a mind-set when they already bought the red hat.
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TomSea wrote:
"Peter Navarro is an economist, he wrote or co-wrote a book "Death by China" which was made into a movie. I have not seen this, I am not aware of it's contents."
For those who are (like me) unafraid:
https://tpb14.ukpass.co/torrent/9137572/Death_By_China_2012_DOCO_DVDRip_XviD_[PDU_-_ENCODE]?ckattempt=1
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White House memos warned in run-up to pandemic of up to 2M deaths, economic devastation
Navarro warned Trump in January about COVID-19, new report claims
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Top White House trade adviser Peter Navarro warned in stark terms about how deadly and economically devastating the coronavirus outbreak could be, weeks before it became a full-blown pandemic.
Navarro delivered the warnings to others at the White House in internal memos in January and February, saying that the United States could see up to 2 million deaths and trillions of dollars in economic damage.
The first Navarro memo was dated Jan. 29 and was addressed to the White House National Security Council, according to The New York Times, which first reported on the document. In it, Navarro made his case for an “immediate travel ban on China.â€
In that memo, Navarro also reportedly warned that “the lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on U.S. soil.â€
“This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans,†Navarro wrote in the memo, according to the Times.
Navarro’s first memo came as the president was downplaying the prospect of the virus coming to the U.S., while, at the same time, just days later on Jan. 31 restricting travel from China, after it was reported that COVID-19 was first discovered in China in December 2019 in Wuhan, Hubei province.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-memos-warned-in-run-up-to-pandemic-of-up-to-2m-deaths-economic-devastation (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-memos-warned-in-run-up-to-pandemic-of-up-to-2m-deaths-economic-devastation)
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