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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 01:16:09 am

Title: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 01:16:09 am
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/indicted-rep-chris-collins-to-remain-on-ballot-this-november-giving-dems-a-gift

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Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) will remain on the ballot this November, a Republican source with knowledge of his decision tells TPM, a blow to the GOP’s hopes of holding onto a seat once viewed as safely Republican.

The move comes after a month of legal wrangling in which Collins, who’s under indictment for insider trading, sought to get off the ballot and give another Republican a chance to hold the seat for the party this fall.

more at link

The GOP clown show rolls on
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 18, 2018, 01:30:29 am
It's so nice how Rosenstein drops this when it's just too darn late to get them off the ballot.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 02:13:09 am
It's so nice how Rosenstein drops this when it's just too darn late to get them off the ballot.
Right...this is Rod Rosenstein fault.  Not Chris Collins.  I forgot the zany Twilight Zone world we live in.

Protect your hero Trumpers
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 18, 2018, 02:20:40 am
Right...this is Rod Rosenstein fault.  Not Chris Collins.  I forgot the zany Twilight Zone world we live in.

Protect your hero Trumpers

The investigation started in the Obama admin, but Rosenstein drops the bomb till after it's too late to get them off the ballot, years later?

You REALLY don't know how political intrigue works, do you?

I do, and if I was going to play the dastardly bastard, that's EXACTLY how I'd do it.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Frank Cannon on September 18, 2018, 02:27:54 am
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/indicted-rep-chris-collins-to-remain-on-ballot-this-november-giving-dems-a-gift

more at link

The GOP clown show rolls on

Yup. Looks like your favored candidate is going to pick up that seat.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 02:34:05 am
You REALLY don't know how political intrigue works, do you?

Clearly I don't.  Please tell me which Obama official convinced the naive Congressman to break the law on camera at President Trump's Whitehouse picnic?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-collins-a-timeline-including-video-of-that-phone-call-at-the-white-house-picnic/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-collins-a-timeline-including-video-of-that-phone-call-at-the-white-house-picnic/)
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I do, and if I was going to play the dastardly bastard, that's EXACTLY how I'd do it.

It's exasperating how easily the GOP gets tricked.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 18, 2018, 02:37:51 am
Clearly I don't.  Please tell me which Obama official convinced the naive Congressman to break the law on camera at President Trump's Whitehouse picnic?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-collins-a-timeline-including-video-of-that-phone-call-at-the-white-house-picnic/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-collins-a-timeline-including-video-of-that-phone-call-at-the-white-house-picnic/)
(https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/08/08/8fcbe2f2-5be3-43ac-8773-1b20b25dcf57/resize/620x/0ef3899b60783b9898797c9d256703d3/image001-1.png)

It's exasperating how easily the GOP gets tricked.

Really? You think they didn't have the goods on him before that?

And we're naive?

This was timed for ulterior agendas, pure and simple.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 02:38:01 am
Yup. Looks like your favored candidate is going to pick up that seat.

I live in Wisconsin @Frank Cannon and I think both parties are worthless.  I have no dog in this fight, but you're defending Collins huh? 

and they say the GOP has lost it's integrity. :seeya:
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 02:39:53 am
Really? You think they didn't have the goods on him before that?

And we're naive?

This was timed for ulterior agendas, pure and simple.

IKR.  How dare Rosenstien let Collins keep breaking the law well into the Trump administration.  Witch Hunt!!!
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Frank Cannon on September 18, 2018, 02:47:21 am
I have no dog in this fight, but you're defending Collins huh? 

and they say the GOP has lost it's integrity. :seeya:
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No dog in this fight? Your full of effing shit. You spend your entire life posting demotivational retard cartoons, slamming the President and anything related to him, starting fights here with no effing purpose and being and all around disrupter. You mirror exactly word for word what I read at DU when I see what those monkey shit throwers are up to.

BTW it isn't any surprise you are from the birthplace of Progressivism and Lefitsm in this country. You probably wander around downtown Madison with a P ussy hat on in between finding Trump hate memes to post here.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 18, 2018, 02:49:53 am
IKR.  How dare Rosenstien let Collins keep breaking the law well into the Trump administration.  Witch Hunt!!!

So you're cool with the DOJ politicizing this to prevent the GOP from getting another candidate on the ballot, just to stick the knife into Trump.

Got it.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 03:51:27 am
Your full of effing shit.

That's fair.

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You spend your entire life posting demotivational retard cartoons, slamming the President and anything related to him, starting fights here with no effing purpose and being and all around disrupter. You mirror exactly word for word what I read at DU when I see what those monkey shit throwers are up to.

Why are you hanging out at DU, you cuck?   

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BTW it isn't any surprise you are from the birthplace of Progressivism and Lefitsm in this country. You probably wander around downtown Madison with a P ussy hat on in between finding Trump hate memes to post here.

(https://www.cardcow.com/images/set330/card00963_fr.jpg)

Good Lord you're stupid.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 03:58:07 am
So you're cool with the DOJ politicizing this to prevent the GOP from getting another candidate on the ballot, just to stick the knife into Trump.

Got it.

I see it differently.  I see a thief being investigated for a crime but unwilling to step down because he thinks his gerrymandered tribe will defend him NO MATTER WHAT.  thanx for your psychically inspired reply Professor X
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 18, 2018, 04:02:59 am
I see it differently.  I see a thief being investigated for a crime but unwilling to step down because he thinks his gerrymandered tribe will defend him NO MATTER WHAT.  thanx for your psychically inspired reply Professor X

Which has nothing to do with Rosenstein waiting for the right time to help out the Democrats?
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: INVAR on September 18, 2018, 04:07:12 am
Well, the GOP are not called the STUPID PARTY for nothing you know.

Of course the timing of the indictment is such that it secures a certain defeat of a Republican stronghold seat.

So I think we can chalk this up to BOTH criminal stupidity on Collins' part - AND political subterfuge by the oligarchy.

So everyone is right for a change... on this thread anyway.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 04:10:43 am
Which has nothing to do with Rosenstein waiting for the right time to help out the Democrats.
Are you serious?  The deep state waited and watched until Collins was the first to endorse Trump, got named to his transition team, got insider information, broke the law, then waited until the next elections to destroy him? 

That is a WINNING team.  They Fight!!!
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Frank Cannon on September 18, 2018, 04:11:35 am

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Good Lord you're stupid.

Right. Ever hear of Robert LaFollette? One of your GOP Gov's who started modern day Progressive liberalism in Madison?

Good Lord you're stupid.

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Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 18, 2018, 04:15:28 am
Are you serious?  The deep state waited and watched until Collins was the first to endorse Trump, got named to his transition team, got insider information, broke the law, then waited until the next elections to destroy him? 

That is a WINNING team.  They Fight!!!

Do you think they wouldn't wait till the next election, till it was too late to keep his name off the ballot?

Again, do you understand how this game is played?
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 05:09:37 am
Right. Ever hear of Robert LaFollette? One of your GOP Gov's who started modern day Progressive liberalism in Madison?

Good Lord you're stupid.

Daddy?
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 18, 2018, 11:05:23 am
Are you serious?  The deep state waited and watched until Collins was the first to endorse Trump, got named to his transition team, got insider information, broke the law, then waited until the next elections to destroy him? 

That is a WINNING team.  They Fight!!!
And waited until the indictment would cause the most collateral damage, perfectly timed to prevent voters from having another choice who isn't from the party that diametrically opposes everything they stand for.

Does it not strike you as the least bit suspicious that these attacks always come at such a late hour?
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 18, 2018, 12:31:36 pm
And waited until the indictment would cause the most collateral damage, perfectly timed to prevent voters from having another choice who isn't from the party that diametrically opposes everything they stand for.

Does it not strike you as the least bit suspicious that these attacks always come at such a late hour?
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4639651/Collins-Indictment.pdf

Collins call to his son and other family and friends happened about a year ago June 22 2017.  The Drug company publicly disclosed the info at the end of June and the stock dropped. The FBI investigated and likely made sure they had their facts straight.  Gathering evidence and interviewing the bit players, family, and friends first before interviewing Collins on April 25th 2018.  Then they tacked on the lying to the FBI charges.  Collins was arrested Aug 8th 2018. 

crime June 2017
investigation
interview April 2018
arrest Aug 2018

I have no problem with this timeline.  The details of why the timing of the investigation took 10 months to complete will likely be brought up at trial since there is a dangerous demagogue in the White House.  A demagogue who thinks he can muddy the waters and fool you into getting more enraged about the investigation than the crimes. 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1036681588573130752

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Two long running, Obama era, investigations of  two very popular Republican Congressmen were brought to a well publicized charge, just ahead of the Mid-Terms, by the Jeff Sessions Justice Department. Two easy wins now in doubt because there is not enough time. Good job Jeff......
11:25 AM - 3 Sep 2018

Once the crime was committed, investigated, interviews done should the FBI have waited another 7 months to arrest...until after Collins was re-elected?  Is that good justice?
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: INVAR on September 18, 2018, 12:36:20 pm
Once the crime was committed, investigated, interviews done should the FBI have waited another 7 months to arrest...until after Collins was re-elected?  Is that good justice?

It's the FBI... the Schutzstaffel arm of the Democrat party.

I do not think they are capable of 'justice' any longer.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Absalom on September 18, 2018, 09:21:59 pm
Right. Ever hear of Robert LaFollette? One of your GOP Gov's who started modern day Progressive liberalism in Madison?

Good Lord you're stupid.

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Indeed, the GOP from Johnson to Hoover was politically
ascendant as well as progressive left for those 7 decades.
Our present bureaucratic and centralized government was
their legacy; abetted by the SC, virtually all of whose
Justices they confirmed. 
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Frank Cannon on September 18, 2018, 09:26:51 pm
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Indeed, the GOP from Johnson to Hoover was politically
ascendant as well as progressive left for those 7 decades.
Our present bureaucratic and centralized government was
their legacy; abetted by the SC, virtually all of whose
Justices they confirmed.

And ground zero for that was Madison Wisconsin, which is why we should give that state to the Canadians before they come up with anymore stupid ideas.
Title: Re: Indicted Rep. Chris Collins To Remain On Ballot This November, Giving Dems A Gift
Post by: Absalom on September 19, 2018, 01:55:40 am
And ground zero for that was Madison Wisconsin, which is why we should give that state to the Canadians before they come up with anymore stupid ideas.
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Frank Cannon !
As you're well aware, our New England States are hard core socialist bastions
from Alderman to Governor; as its only a matter degree between each state.
So an idea which your comment triggered, namely a straight up swap of
New England (throw in NJ and NY perhaps) for the Canadian Provinces of
Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia.
They get the socialists and we get the oil and gas fields!!!!!
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