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Title: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: mountaineer on January 06, 2024, 06:51:33 pm
Unelected city bureaucrat imposes mask mandate without consulting with anyone. It soon was rescinded.  :silly:
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Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Hospitals around the area told 5 On Your Side that they're seeing a "typical winter" in terms of COVID-19, RSV and flu cases.
KSDK (https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/health/st-louis-masks-mandate-city-employees-increase-covid-rsv-flu/63-bd8641c7-1bf3-4db9-8dc6-0fd088cf3e54)
Sam Clancy, Hunter Bassler, Mark Maxwell
Published: 9:02 AM CST January 5, 2024; Updated: 4:21 PM CST January 5, 2024

 City of St. Louis officials announced Friday afternoon that it is no longer requiring city employees to wear a mask while working, less than 24 hours after issuing a mask mandate.

"The City of St. Louis has updated its communications with employees surrounding masking," a statement from Mayor Tishaura Jones' office said. "The City of St. Louis Department of Health strongly recommends masking indoors for all City of St. Louis employees, effective immediately."

St. Louis Director of Health Matifadza Hlatshwayo Davis originally said on Thursday that "significant increases" in COVID-19, RSV and flu cases in the city were the reason behind the mask order.  However, on Friday morning, the department replaced its original statistics with less alarming data showing respiratory viruses trending up.

Area hospitals seemed surprised when the city originally issued the mask mandate.

"BJC is not seeing a strain on hospital capacity," BJC Health Care officials told 5 On Your Side. We are experiencing a seasonal increase in respiratory illness, which is typical for this time of year."

Mercy Hospital described it as a "typical winter." St. Louis County said they haven't seen any out-of-the-ordinary strains on the health system.  ...
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: mountaineer on January 06, 2024, 06:55:58 pm
From Twitter:
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Rule3O3
@Rule3O3
Emergency mini 🧵on an insane drama unfolding in St. Louis.  Heard this from a pal who teaches at Wash U:  1/10
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDIl0zHXQAANUiY?format=jpg&name=small)

Yesterday, out of the blue, the health director (above) staged a public policy putsch by imposing a mask mandate on the city. Evidently she did this without consulting - maybe without even warning - her mayor, the regional heads of hospital, local presbyters & big shots, etc. This was so irregular at first people thought the order might be a prank.

Turns out it was real. Her reason for issuing the mandate was to reduce strain on the hospital system, which she said was foundering under a surge of respiratory illness.

Interestingly, she did not justify masking as a response to Covid only, but to flu and RSV, citing case increases of 50% and 150% above the 5 year average.

Naturally this freaked people out even more, because linking mask mandates to bugs other than Covid implied they might never go away.

The peasants would’ve revolted, but they didn’t get a chance. The nobles beat them to it. People with titles complained, in chorus.

Could the Director of the Health Department, an Infectious Disease physician, really make a mistake this big, and dumb?

Why that’d be like finding out the president of Harvard is an impostor.

The hospitals made a statement: “We are not overwhelmed. So far this is a normal winter.”

Ouch. This made it obvious she hadn’t bothered to talk to them, but had simply used the “shortage of ICU beds” copypasta from 3 years ago.

St. Louis docs must really like this gal because they helped her further into the ditch by pointing out a flaw some of you already noticed in her analysis: The 5 year average includes an anomaly, winter 20-21, lowest for flu in the modern history of records. Every normal year will be above the 5 year average until it excretes that anomaly.

Now this mistake too could have been easily avoided just by talking to a few members of the profession she makes policy for.

But incompetent people don’t like talking to competent ones. It’s not fun for them. Feels like being told you’re wrong all the time. Feels like not being in charge. They learn to avoid the experience.

Today the mask mandate was rescinded. Lived less than 24hrs. To save face they let her issue an “update” that “strongly recommends” masking.

I mean, you can’t have your Health Director losing her self-confidence in the midst of a crisis she imagined.

Correction: The mandate was NOT for the entire city, just public employees. (Though that makes the idea even *less* rational, because masking 10k out of 300k in a metro area with 3m has zero chance of producing any benefit. It’s homeopathy applied to NPIs.)

Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: mountaineer on January 31, 2024, 03:10:33 pm
And in shocking other news in the "I Told You So" section: "No evidence face masks protected vulnerable from Covid, health officials admit"
Story in Telegraph(U.K.)
https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1752320641951314290
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: Hoodat on January 31, 2024, 03:20:23 pm
From Twitter:
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Rule3O3
@Rule3O3
Emergency mini 🧵on an insane drama unfolding in St. Louis.  Heard this from a pal who teaches at Wash U:  1/10


Yesterday, out of the blue, the health director (above) staged a public policy putsch by imposing a mask mandate on the city. Evidently she did this without consulting - maybe without even warning  .  .  .

Washington University is a left-wing hell hole.  Their ratio of post-grad salary over tuition costs may be the lowest in the world.
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: Hoodat on January 31, 2024, 03:21:28 pm
And in shocking other news in the "I Told You So" section: "No evidence face masks protected vulnerable from Covid, health officials admit"
Story in Telegraph(U.K.)

In other words, Conservatives were right all along.
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: mountaineer on January 31, 2024, 03:30:57 pm
Washington University is a left-wing hell hole.  Their ratio of post-grad salary over tuition costs may be the lowest in the world.
I earned a graduate degree there. My first day on campus, I was stunned to see overtly communist groups recruiting members.
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: Hoodat on January 31, 2024, 03:37:47 pm
I earned a graduate degree there. My first day on campus, I was stunned to see overtly communist groups recruiting members.

I am so glad that you survived.  It must have been quite a struggle.
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: Polly Ticks on January 31, 2024, 03:38:58 pm
I earned a graduate degree there. My first day on campus, I was stunned to see overtly communist groups recruiting members.

That must have been quite the culture shock after your under-grad experience.  :thud:
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: mountaineer on January 31, 2024, 03:39:27 pm
I am so glad that you survived.  It must have been quite a struggle.
I hated it, but didn't have the guts to quit. It was the wrong university, the wrong field of study.
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: Wingnut on January 31, 2024, 04:34:09 pm
I am so glad that you survived.  It must have been quite a struggle.

Man that was one of the few times  "The struggle was real" was not sarcasm.
Title: Re: Mask mandate rescinded for St. Louis city employees, area hospitals say they aren't strained
Post by: mountaineer on January 31, 2024, 07:29:54 pm
That must have been quite the culture shock after your under-grad experience.  :thud:
To say the least!