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General Category => Editorial/Opinion/Blogs => Topic started by: EasyAce on May 13, 2017, 06:31:19 pm
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By Ron Radosh
https://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2017/05/12/time-for-conservatives-and-republicans-to-stand-up-to-trump/?print=true&singlepage=true
It must be more than difficult to work in the Trump White House. For two days, the president’s spokespeople -- including
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Sean Spicer, and even Vice President Mike Pence -- have told the media that Donald Trump fired James
Comey after reading the letter penned by Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who had only been in office for two weeks.
Rosenstein himself, as the Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/rosenstein-pressed-white-house-to-correct-the-record-on-comey-firing-1494523639) reported, then went to White House counsel Don McGahn to ask for a correction to
what he thought was “an inaccurate White House depiction of the events surrounding FBI Director James Comey’s firing.” Intimating
that he might possibly resign his office, Rosenstein explained that he could not work in an environment where facts were not
accurately reported . . .
. . . in his interview on NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/pres-trump-s-extended-exclusive-interview-with-lester-holt-at-the-white-house-941854787582) with anchor Lester Holt, Trump contradicted his entire team’s talking points of the previous two
days, and told Holt that Comey was a “showboat” and a “grandstander,” that he “was going to fire him” anyway, and that he had made
his decision before reading the Rosenstein letter . . .
. . . As many have observed, Trump continues to be his own worst enemy. To rectify the situation and move on to the rest of his
agenda, he will have to appoint someone beyond reproach to fill the FBI director’s position. Two Republican conservative Senators,
Orrin Hatch and Mike Lee, have come up with a candidate: Merrick Garland. Such a step would give Democrats and Republicans
confidence that someone truly independent is being appointed, and not someone who will kowtow to Trump’s bidding.
As for those who are furious when conservatives think for themselves, one should read David French in National Review (http://=http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447545/democratic-hypocrisy-hysteria-dont-make-trump-right) . . .
. . . It’s time to stop enabling Trump and start seeking the truth -- even if the truth hurts.
I share this sentiment, and hope that many other conservatives will join me and do what’s right and necessary.
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When he is wrong they should.
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@EasyAce
Soooo,Trump is a human gasbag with the maturity of the typical 13 year old? Somebody is surprised about this?
To me his election only highlights how pathetic the scum was that he was running against. Frankly,I'm glad he is in there throwing brain farts left and right,and shaking the system up.
Yeah,I wish he would tone it down a bit and stop putting "TRUMP FIRST IN IMPORTANCE IN ALL THINGS",and focus more on repairing what is wrong with America than on pumping up his already enormous ego,but we all knew who and what he was when we voted for him.
At a MINIMUM what he is doing is putting a end to the public illusion that the career Dims and career alleged Republicans are in opposition to one another,and this is a GOOD thing.
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To me his election only highlights how pathetic the scum was that he was running against.
@sneakypete
The election was between a crank and a crook. Thank God my state had "None of These Candidates" as a ballot option. ;)
Frankly,I'm glad he is in there throwing brain farts left and right,and shaking the system up.
Just wait till someone lights a match to one of those brain farts. The fallout won't be pretty.
Yeah,I wish he would tone it down a bit and stop putting "TRUMP FIRST IN IMPORTANCE IN ALL THINGS" . . .
That's a little like wishing a piranha would take up a vegetarian diet.
and focus more on repairing what is wrong with America than on pumping up his already enormous ego . . .
To repair what's wrong he'd first have to know not just what's wrong but where the repair is needed. You can't fix a Mixmaster's
governor control by replacing the beater gears.
. . . but we all knew who and what he was when we voted for him.
Democracy---that theory by which the common people know what they want and deserve to get it, good and hard.---H.L. Mencken.
At a MINIMUM what he is doing is putting a end to the public illusion that the career Dims and career alleged Republicans are in opposition to one another,and this is a GOOD thing.
Replacing one illusion with another one (and who knows what the latter will prove to be in the end?) isn't exactly a good thing.
It's like dumping your old heap of a car and replacing it with another old heap of a car---which might break down even faster.
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Oh goody. Another #NT butt hurt piece based on discredited garbage from other butt hurt pieces.
(http://Rosenstein himself, as the Wall Street Journal reported, then went to White House counsel Don McGahn to ask for a correction to
what he thought was “an inaccurate White House depiction of the events surrounding FBI Director James Comey’s firing.” Intimating
that he might possibly resign his office, Rosenstein explained that he could not work in an environment where facts were not
accurately reported . . .)
Deputy AG Rosenstein denies he threatened to quit over Comey dismissal
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/11/deputy-ag-rosenstein-reportedly-threatened-to-quit-over-depiction-of-his-role-in-comey-dismissal.html
The desperate grasping for relevance from the #NT's like Radish, French, Kristol, et al is an embarrassment.
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Everyone embraces identity politics. I just want President Trump to be successful.
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@sneakypete
The election was between a crank and a crook. Thank God my state had "None of These Candidates" as a ballot option. ;)
@EasyAce
Ok,since you didn't participate you have no grounds to complain. Not making a decisions is a punk move when you know for a fact that ONE of the two candidates is going to win. If it weren't Trump,it would be even worse because it would be a dedicated anti-American communist and professional criminal and traitor sitting in the WH instead of a 70 year old narcissist going on 14.
Just wait till someone lights a match to one of those brain farts. The fallout won't be pretty.
Yeah,it would have been soooo much "prettier" with the Hilderbeast and Bubba back in the WH,selling nuke secrets to China again,having people murdered that caused them trouble,etc,etc,etc. Since you seem to be such a big fan of Bubbette!,why didn't you have the courage of your convictions and vote for her?
With Trump,at least there is a CHANCE he will throw enough monkey wrenches into "political business as usual" to wake up enough of the jerk-off Party People to the FACT that our political system is now broken because we now have,in effect,a One Party Nation that is ran by a professional criminal class for their own financial benefit. The mere fact that someone like him who had never even been elected class president before could beat all all the usual suspects for the most important political office in the country shows a considerable number of the voters have already figured this out and want to see the current favoritism system tossed t the curb.
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Everyone embraces identity politics. I just want President Trump to be successful.
@Lando Lincoln
BINGO! If Trump is successful,America is successful.
If he fails,maybe he will take the corrupt system down with him and we MIGHT actually get some candidates next time that aren't owned by the international bankers and who put America first?
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The election was between a crank and a crook. Thank God my state had "None of These Candidates" as a ballot option. ;)
Yup, they can take their limited binary thinking and shove it where the sun don't shine. 2 wrong choices are simply 2 wrong choices and I don't care how droolingly worshipful Trumpers are, not all of us are so willing to sell our souls for a win that is really only a surrender.
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@Lando Lincoln
BINGO! If Trump is successful,America is successful.
If he fails,maybe he will take the corrupt system down with him and we MIGHT actually get some candidates next time that aren't owned by the international bankers and who put America first?
Not because you are agreeing with me here Pete, but I have really enjoyed your posts of late. Showing that "Wisdom" side, you are.
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Yup, they can take their limited binary thinking and shove it where the sun don't shine. 2 wrong choices are simply 2 wrong choices and I don't care how droolingly worshipful Trumpers are, not all of us are so willing to sell our souls for a win that is really only a surrender.
The formula is quite tiresome:
1. If we didn't vote FOR Trump, then it is said we did not participate in the process and therefore have NO VOICE in any matters political from this point forward, and have no privilege to complain about anything. Unless of course you voted for Trump, then you can complain about how unfair the media, the Democrats and the Oligarchy IN DC is to the Vaunted Savior of the Republic.
2. If we note or point out anything considered negative about Trump, then we are Hillary Supporters, Democrat Plants, Liberals, Leftists and scum that need to be silenced by every means possible - including advocating bannings, suspensions, beatings and other forms of ostracizing 'enemies of the state'.
3. Voting for actual Conservatives is now considered 'losing' and a 'punk move'???
It simply reveals that the mobs of people who made Trump their prince - are no less tyrannical in nature and dismissive of Liberty than those they claim to hate.
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The formula is quite tiresome:
......of saying people "made Trump their prince," if they voted for and support the GOP President. Period. On a "GOP" forum I add.
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Ok,since you didn't participate you have no grounds to complain. Not making a decisions is a punk move when you know for a fact that ONE of the two candidates is going to win.
First, if I didn't want to participate, I would have stayed home and not voted.
Second, it's not a punk move when you know for a fact that none of the candidates is to your taste or to what you think is
good for the country.
If it weren't Trump,it would be even worse because it would be a dedicated anti-American communist and professional criminal and traitor sitting in the WH instead of a 70 year old narcissist going on 14.
Unfortunately, it is Donaldus Minimus now. The "whatabout-ism" no longer applies. Be grateful we dodged a Hilarious bullet
but lament that there was nothing better to oppose her. And pray.
Yeah,it would have been soooo much "prettier" with the Hilderbeast and Bubba back in the WH,selling nuke secrets to China again,having people murdered that caused them trouble,etc,etc,etc. Since you seem to be such a big fan of Bubbette!,why didn't you have the courage of your convictions and vote for her?
I have never been a fan of Hilarious Rodent Clinton. I am well on record in opposition to her. I didn't vote "None of These
Candidates" to put one of them in the White House, I voted "None of These Candidates" because my convictions told me to vote for
neither of them. (Or anyone else on the presidential ballot; not even the Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson, and what the
hell was that party thinking nominating what was, when all was said and done, a Rockefeller Republican type?) The only votes that
counted toward either one of them were the votes that were cast explicitly for either one of them.
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......of saying people "made Trump their prince," if they voted for and support the GOP President. Period. On a "GOP" forum I add.
No WRONG, that is a lie sir.
We do not have a problem with anyone who voted for Trump.
We took issue with those who insisted he was going to be the savior of the Republic; that he should bypass Congress and the Courts to act as Dictator to undo Obama; and every other unConstitutional/unprincipled avenue for vengeance and payback.
It is a tiresome formula that those who voted for Trump declare anyone Conservative who voted for a third party Conservative candidate, or have issues with Trump as being Hillary Supporters/Leftists/Liberals/Democrats/ etc., etc.
We have a problem with those who say we have no voice to complain because we did not vote for their guy. We have a problem with those who denigrate our principles because we refuse to support party loyalty above everything else.
All of that having been witnessed on "Conservative" fora no less.
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@EasyAce
Soooo,Trump is a human gasbag with the maturity of the typical 13 year old? Somebody is surprised about this?
To me his election only highlights how pathetic the scum was that he was running against.
Hillary would have lost to most anything the GOP put up, even a ham sandwich
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3. Voting for actual Conservatives is now considered 'losing' and a 'punk move'???
@INVAR
QUICK! Name the conservative candidate that was running.
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No WRONG, that is a lie sir.
We do not have a problem with anyone who voted for Trump.
We took issue with those who insisted he was going to be the savior of the Republic; that he should bypass Congress and the Courts to act as Dictator to undo Obama; and every other unConstitutional/unprincipled avenue for vengeance and payback.
NAILED it,right up to that point. No one who wants to replace one crooked and illegal administration with another one the mirror image of the one being replaced can all themselves an American conservative. Conservatism in America means protecting individual freedoms and the just enforcement of laws without prejudice or discrimination. We are either all equal in the eyes of the law,or we have no law.
It is a tiresome formula that those who voted for Trump declare anyone Conservative who voted for a third party Conservative candidate, or have issues with Trump as being Hillary Supporters/Leftists/Liberals/Democrats/ etc., etc.
At BEST,you are enablers. You earned it,wear it!
We have a problem with those who say we have no voice to complain because we did not vote for their guy. We have a problem with those who denigrate our principles because we refuse to support party loyalty above everything else.
It boggles the imagination that you would even attempt to make such a claim about a campaign with Trump at the head of it. How is it possible you understand nothing at all about him? It's not like he tried to hide who he is. Do you SERIOUSLY think Trump thinks he owes any loyalty to what passes for a Republican Party these days? If you do,you need to check yourself into Naracon or some other rehab group and get your blood flushed.
All of that having been witnessed on "Conservative" fora no less.
Not as strange as you seeing something that isn't there.
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Hillary would have lost to most anything the GOP put up, even a ham sandwich
:bs: Your ham sandwich theory is starting to rot. Not one of the 16 GOP primary losers would have tried to push through the blue wall. Not one of them would have been successful. Each one of them would have lost to Hillary Clinton.
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NAILED it,right up to that point. No one who wants to replace one crooked and illegal administration with another one the mirror image of the one being replaced can all themselves an American conservative.
I'm not sure how given that statement, one can assert that voting for a lifelong NY Liberal Democrat differs from your query. Some of us Conservatives decided to stop practicing insanity voting for a party that enables the Democrats and their agenda while running interference for them at every opportunity. Thus we chose to vote for an actual Conservative in the General and not the nominee of the GOP.
At BEST,you are enablers.
Same thing I tell anyone who votes for party over principles. I won't vote for a Republican simply because they are not a Democrat. That is part of what got us into this mess to begin with.
It boggles the imagination that you would even attempt to make such a claim about a campaign with Trump at the head of it.
Trump is no Conservative and never was. It is why we refused to vote for him. We were told ad infinitum that refusing to vote for the GOP nominee is voting for Hillary, and that our principles were an enemy of good. If those sentiments boggle your mind - then perhaps you misunderstand what governs our actions.
How is it possible you understand nothing at all about him? It's not like he tried to hide who he is.
Exactly. We knew exactly what he was. It is why we voted third party.
Do you SERIOUSLY think Trump thinks he owes any loyalty to what passes for a Republican Party these days?
We certainly owe no loyalty to what passes for the GOP these days. It is why some of us voted third party, and refused to vote for Trump. Given the GOP's performance over the last 8 years - I have no plans to vote for them again.
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I won't vote for trash like Trump simply because I'm daring his garbage fans to stop slapping their gums together and get to punishing me.
This particular piece of trash claims to be a minister but he sounds a lot more like a mullah.
(http://i.imgur.com/xmEciNu.png)
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Saved from TOS before Trump made the huge donation to the FReepathon last summer.
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I'm not sure how given that statement, one can assert that voting for a lifelong NY Liberal Democrat differs from your query.
Trump isn't a life-long Dim anymore than he is a space ship. He is first and foremost,a narcissistic sociopath/Trumpist. There is nobody and nothing that exists in the whole universe that is as important to him as he is. He has never in his life had to get along with anyone else,so he doesn't even know how to do so if he wanted to try it.
Which means he is a political bomb thrower that flat doesn't give a damn about how either the Dim or the alleged Republican Party look. All he cares about is how HE will look in the history books. If he has to step on toes in order to get something passed that will help him make history,he will step on toes and not give a damn who they belong to.
Name the so-called "conservative" candidate that you voted for in the primary that would do that if he were the president today.
Some of us Conservatives decided to stop practicing insanity voting for a party that enables the Democrats and their agenda while running interference for them at every opportunity. Thus we chose to vote for an actual Conservative in the General and not the nominee of the GOP.
BTW,while you are at it,how about explain to me how your losing candidate in the primary that couldn't even beat Trump was going to beat Bubbettte! and become the next president when he didn't even win the primary.
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Same thing I tell anyone who votes for party over principles. I won't vote for a Republican simply because they are not a Democrat. That is part of what got us into this mess to begin with.
Yeah,so you are going to vote for the guy that wasn't going to be running. How did that work out for you?
Trump is no Conservative and never was. It is why we refused to vote for him. We were told ad infinitum that refusing to vote for the GOP nominee is voting for Hillary, and that our principles were an enemy of good. If those sentiments boggle your mind - then perhaps you misunderstand what governs our actions.
Immaturity?
Exactly. We knew exactly what he was. It is why we voted third party.
GOOD thinking! How did that work out for you?
We certainly owe no loyalty to what passes for the GOP these days.
What does that have to do with Trump? After all,you have been screaming about how he isn't even a Republican. If he isn't a Republican,how can you justify not voting for him BECAUSE he is a Republican? Do you also shoot yourself in the foot before you go dancing?
It is why some of us voted third party, and refused to vote for Trump.
See the above. ALL of the above.
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He is first and foremost,a narcissistic sociopath/Trumpist. There is nobody and nothing that exists in the whole universe that is as important to him as he is. He has never in his life had to get along with anyone else,so he doesn't even know how to do so if he wanted to try it.
Which means he is a political bomb thrower that flat doesn't give a damn about how either the Dim or the alleged Republican Party look. All he cares about is how HE will look in the history books. If he has to step on toes in order to get something passed that will help him make history,he will step on toes and not give a damn who they belong to.
Cannot disagree with any of that. It is one of the major reasons I did not vote for him.
Name the so-called "conservative" candidate that you voted for in the primary that would do that if he were the president today.
I didn't vote for that at all, because that is not someone capable of leading a Republic and safeguarding a Constitution.
BTW,while you are at it,how about explain to me how your losing candidate in the primary that couldn't even beat Trump was going to beat Bubbettte! and become the next president when he didn't even win the primary.
I don't look at politics as a team sport I'm supposed to get wrapped up into so I can sing 'We Are The Champions', badly. The fact half the electorate wants a corrupt Marxist and the other half wants a Reality TV Narcissistic Sociopath who loves himself results in the rulers this people deserve. This people get the inept, corrupt, moronic and self-serving Statists that they want. I don't jump off the cliff just because the rest of the lemmings do.
What does that have to do with Trump?
He is their standard bearer as the titular head of their party.
After all,you have been screaming about how he isn't even a Republican.
He isn't, even by their standards. I'm not sure even John McCain or Lindsey Grahamnesty would fund, campaign for and vote for an open Communist like Bill DeBlasio as Trump did three years ago. Well.... maybe McCain would.
If he isn't a Republican,how can you justify not voting for him BECAUSE he is a Republican?
Are we hitting the Scotch tonight or the tequila? I said, he's a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat. I don't vote for liberals or Democrats, regardless what party they slither their way into.
Do you also shoot yourself in the foot before you go dancing?
No different than people who shoot themselves in the head before voting.
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Cannot disagree with any of that. It is one of the major reasons I did not vote for him.
@INVAR
LOL! That,and who he was running against were the prime reasons I DID vote for him.
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......of saying people "made Trump their prince," if they voted for and support the GOP President. Period. On a "GOP" forum I add.
What GOP forum did you add? The name on the masthead is "The Briefing Room"
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@INVAR
QUICK! Name the conservative candidate that was running.
That's easy. Darrell Castle, Constitution Party.
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At BEST,you are enablers. You earned it,wear it!
Nonsense. The electoral college elects the POTUS, and if our votes didn't change crap there, they had no effect except to register our protest about the nature of the other candidates and support whatever candidate we voted for. A vote for Darrell Castle in ND did not change anything in re Hillary vs Trump, but it did register support for Castle and the Constitution Party. IOW, I could and did vote perfectly in line with my conscience and did nothing to upset anyone's rotten apple cart. (I voted for neither liberal from NY, nor the Libertines, socialists, or others, but for a candidate who embraced returning the Federal Government to an originalist interpretation of the Constitution in theory and practice.)
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At BEST,you are enablers. You earned it,wear it!
@sneakypete
Exactly... if the same election was held today and I knew Trump was to lose by one vote, I still would not vote for him. Principle matters to some of us. My write in vote of Tom Hoelfling may of not broke a ripple locally, but it allowed me to sleep somewhat better.
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That's easy. Darrell Castle, Constitution Party.
@Smokin Joe
"Constitution Party"? Is that a new sitcom on Fox?
Never heard of Castle. For all the good you did,you might as well have voted for me,and I wasn't even running.
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Nonsense. The electoral college elects the POTUS, and if our votes didn't change crap there, they had no effect except to register our protest about the nature of the other candidates and support whatever candidate we voted for. A vote for Darrell Castle in ND did not change anything in re Hillary vs Trump, but it did register support for Castle and the Constitution Party. IOW, I could and did vote perfectly in line with my conscience and did nothing to upset anyone's rotten apple cart. (I voted for neither liberal from NY, nor the Libertines, socialists, or others, but for a candidate who embraced returning the Federal Government to an originalist interpretation of the Constitution in theory and practice.)
@Smokin Joe
Yeah,you guys remind me of the guys that buy the blow-up rubber women and pretend they are dating.
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@sneakypete
Exactly... if the same election was held today and I knew Trump was to lose by one vote, I still would not vote for him. Principle matters to some of us. My write in vote of Tom Hoelfling may of not broke a ripple locally, but it allowed me to sleep somewhat better.
@Sighlass
Yeah,national elections aren't about saving the Republic,they are about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"
Good call!
Has your guy gone back to his paper route?
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@Smokin Joe
Yeah,you guys remind me of the guys that buy the blow-up rubber women and pretend they are dating.
They're easier to get rid of if it doesn't work out. :nometalk:
Enlighten yourself. http://castle2016.com/platform/ (http://castle2016.com/platform/)
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@Sighlass
Yeah,national elections aren't about saving the Republic,they are about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"
Good call!
Has your guy gone back to his paper route?
Trump has done some good things, but I'm waiting, and not holding my breath, because it is going to take a lot more than one guy to save it.
We got what y'all voted for, you'd think you'd be happy. **nononono*
Last sitcom I watched on Fox was called "the five" or something like that. Yawn....
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I won't vote for trash like Trump simply because I'm daring his garbage fans to stop slapping their gums together and get to punishing me.
This particular piece of trash claims to be a minister but he sounds a lot more like a mullah.
(http://i.imgur.com/xmEciNu.png)
You are a sad piece of work there, @Cripplecreek
Scanning Twitter for posts like that so that you can group all of us into the same mindset to justify your ignorance.
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@sneakypete
Your guy won....why is your nose so out of joint about those who did not vote for him...unless it's your intention to silence us?
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You are a sad piece of work there, @Cripplecreek
Scanning Twitter for posts like that so that you can group all of us into the same mindset to justify your ignorance.
@DCPatriot
Doesn't take scanning Twitter...just takes a few moments spent at TOS...
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@Smokin Joe
Yeah,you guys remind me of the guys that buy the blow-up rubber women and pretend they are dating.
:silly:
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@sneakypete
Your guy won....why is your nose so out of joint about those who did not vote for him...unless it's your intention to silence us?
Not at all. Why do that and rob all of us of the terrific entertainment value you provide?
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Not at all. Why do that and rob all of us of the terrific entertainment value you provide?
Have fun while you can, now that the republic was saved! Bigly!
Cankles is sliding a little closer to an orange jumpsuit.
They're going to use already approved funding to replace 2% of the fence with wall.
And Obamacare is in-the-box dead. So...Oh. That hasn't happened yet.
Y'all won, now what are you doing with that today?
Sorry I asked: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=262786.new#new (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=262786.new#new)
Oh yeah, winning.
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Have fun while you can, now that the republic was saved! Bigly!
Cankles is sliding a little closer to an orange jumpsuit.
They're going to use already approved funding to replace 2% of the fence with wall.
And Obamacare is in-the-box dead. So...Oh. That hasn't happened yet.
Y'all won, now what are you doing with that today?
.....and it's 'only' May 14th?
Gee! A week shy of FOUR MONTHS into his Administration!
WTF are they waiting for???? :whistle: /s
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.....and it's 'only' May 14th?
Gee! A week shy of FOUR MONTHS into his Administration!
WTF are they waiting for???? :whistle: /s
Yeah, he's been changing appointees like underwear, so it seems longer.
Here's a real cutie. He's keeping this promise.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=262786.new#new
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They're easier to get rid of if it doesn't work out. :nometalk:
@Smokin Joe
LOL!
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@DCPatriot
Doesn't take scanning Twitter...just takes a few moments spent at TOS...
Yup, early on I was threatened with everything from deportation to execution by noobs at TOS while people I once considered friends cheered them on.
They may not have the stones to pull the trigger but I'll never doubt that they would happily drive the bulldozers to cover the mass graves of their opposition.
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Trump has done some good things, but I'm waiting, and not holding my breath, because it is going to take a lot more than one guy to save it.
We got what y'all voted for, you'd think you'd be happy. **nononono*
@Smokin Joe
I honestly don't know one single person that is happy that Trump is the President,but I do know a BUNCH of people who are glad the Clinton's aren't back in the WH.
As for Trump,his ego is going to demand he does SOME things to get his name in the history books as an "important President". No one knows what these things will be yet,or how many of them there will be. Face it,he is a spoiled brat prima donna who trip through life has been on greased skids. He is used to getting his way,so he is likely to get his back up against the wall if someone/anyone tries to stand in his way. He is a wheeler dealer with no core principles other than "*I* am a winner and everybody else is losers!",so he is likely to compromise on anything he claims to want if he can get 51 percent of what he wants so he can call it a "victory" and technically be correct.
The only question is "51 percent of WHAT?". Here is where his wheeling and dealing comes in. As a businessman,he is used to asking for several times what he really wants so he can "be talked into settling for less". The whole "The art of the deal" thing.
Facing him will be the professional criminal class of thieves and traitors we call "professional politicians/Party People". None of them give a damn about getting even a percentage of what they claim to want because their careers are based on lies,and their supporters WANT to be lied to. If they can get to call something a "victory" even if they didn't get a single damn thing they wanted,they are good to go. Oftentimes,what they REALLY want is a loss after being SEEN to SEEM to have fought for it tooth and talon because this increases their public support as well as their contributions. All they have to do is hold a press conference and be seen to be wiping tears as they moan about how "I WANTED to give everyone a million dollar per year guaranteed income,but those damn evil rich Republicans killed my program!" Such dog and pony shows guarantee re-elections to keep the bribes flowing in,so it ends up being a victory for them because that's what they wanted to start with.
I don't know how this is going to work out,but I am positive about a couple of things,one is there is no such thing as a narcissistic sociopath that can even tolerate the idea of losing big on big promises,and the other is that no matter how little good Trump gets done,it will be a hell of a lot more good than the Clinton's would have accomplished,and a lot less evil will be done. Trump knows the survival of his riches and lifestyle are totally dependent on the survival of our system,so he is not going to purposely do ANYTHING that harms America or our system of government.
IMHO,the dark horses in all this are his advisors and his in-laws,who all seem to have a "Bleep YOU,ME FIRST!" attitude. It's his nature to trust family,and somebody needs to remind him that "rent-a-inlaws" are not the same thing as actual family members.
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You are a sad piece of work there, @Cripplecreek
Scanning Twitter for posts like that so that you can group all of us into the same mindset to justify your ignorance.
@DCPatriot @Cripplecreek
I also think you are wrong,either purposely or by allowing your hatred to blind you to the obvious. That black preacher lives in the wrinkles of one of Bubbette's butt cheeks. THAT is why he is calling Trump supporters losers.
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@sneakypete
Your guy won....why is your nose so out of joint about those who did not vote for him...unless it's your intention to silence us?
@Axeslinger
First of all,he's not and never has been "my guy". Who he is,is "the ONLY guy that could keep the Clinton's out of the White House.
Secondly,if you enjoy proving you are a fool,who am I to stop you?
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@sneakypete Well, I didn't want her, either, but with 60+% of the state voting for him, he didn't need me anyway, and I'd been told that, repeatedly. No problemo! For the only time since Reagan, I have voted for a candidate I could wholeheartedly support.
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Yeah, he's been changing appointees like underwear, so it seems longer.
Here's a real cutie. He's keeping this promise.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=262786.new#new
@Smokin Joe
It is going to absolutely break your heart if he gets even a part of the wall built,and gets Bubbette! to cop a plea to avoid prosecution,ain't it?
What we KNOW to be a fact already is that in less than 4 months the numbers of illegal aliens living in the US has plummeted,and the Clinton's are desperately scrambling to pretend to be relevant after a 30+ year run of nothing but successes.
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@Smokin Joe
It is going to absolutely break your heart if he gets even a part of the wall built,and gets Bubbette! to cop a plea to avoid prosecution,ain't it?
What we KNOW to be a fact already is that in less than 4 months the numbers of illegal aliens living in the US has plummeted,and the Clinton's are desperately scrambling to pretend to be relevant after a 30+ year run of nothing but successes.
Damn, @sneakypete
'Love' the hell out of you!
....and @Frank Cannon and @Wingnut too! :tongue2:
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@Axeslinger
First of all,he's not and never has been "my guy". Who he is,is "the ONLY guy that could keep the Clinton's out of the White House.
Secondly,if you enjoy proving you are a fool,who am I to stop you?
@sneakypete
How interesting that you consider living by ones own individual principles to be foolish (and before you go there, oh yes voting in opposition to your principles is most decidedly NOT living up to your principles)
So, basically, you're just like every lib out there preaching about tolerance and diversity as long as it's in keeping with YOUR tolerance and diversity.
Duly noted...thank you for invalidating your opinion henceforth.
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Everyone embraces identity politics. I just want President Trump to be successful.
I'm past caring if the president embarrasses himself or anyone else. I care only about what results from him being president.
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@Smokin Joe
It is going to absolutely break your heart if he gets even a part of the wall built,and gets Bubbette! to cop a plea to avoid prosecution,ain't it?
What we KNOW to be a fact already is that in less than 4 months the numbers of illegal aliens living in the US has plummeted,and the Clinton's are desperately scrambling to pretend to be relevant after a 30+ year run of nothing but successes.
In answer to the first part of your first question, I'd like to see him get new funding to build new wall and get after it, instead of just make headlines for spending already appropriated funds to repair and replace existing barrier. If he gets beyond that, it will be a plus proportional to the amount of the border that becomes newly secured.
I don't want bubbette to cop a plea, because her hindness would waddle out in no time. I'd like to see her and the cadre of other traitors that she hobnobbed with testing the tensile strength of well made kevlar ropes--after they are convicted, of course. Asset forfeiture, etc, yadda yadda yadda, but it isn't likely, they will stop when they get a few low tier whipping boys (my guess, anyway). Teflon coatings and all that.
As for illegals, we have whole jurisdictions which aren't enforcing the law, and may not be getting a count, either. I only hope the data is accurate and the trend continues. I'm within 100 miles of Canada and am tired of hearing Spanish/Mexican spoken all over.
And the clintons, just wanting to be the cool kids, and not doing so well. I think she may be keeping Bubba propped up long enough to have him approach room temperature just before 2020 and try to use it as a sympathy getter, but I also think the expiration date on their gig is up. If they'd only have guarded the border like they'll guard the grave (ammonia emissions control)....
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@sneakypete
How interesting that you consider living by ones own individual principles to be foolish (and before you go there, oh yes voting in opposition to your principles is most decidedly NOT living up to your principles)
So, basically, you're just like every lib out there preaching about tolerance and diversity as long as it's in keeping with YOUR tolerance and diversity.
Duly noted...thank you for invalidating your opinion henceforth.
IMO, @sneakypete 's tone is due to the fact we've been battling with the more strident NTs for over a year....and your forum 'name' is very similar to another, if I'm not mistaken.
'We've' grown tired of the gratuitous filth and insults thrown at the Republican President....in a forum with Ronald Reagan on its masthead.
Other respected members recently suggested a way of detente so that we can find common ground to make the forum less antagonistic.
Nobody is telling anybody to not criticize the POTUS. We're saying it's not necessary to do it 24/7 in every thread.
....for that proves that they aren't interested in conversation but more to put 'ointment' for losing in the primaries and for some....even on Nov 8th.
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I'm past caring if the president embarrasses himself or anyone else. I care only about what results from him being president.
Yep. That's basically it. I'm not worried about today's optics, but tomorrow's results.
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@sneakypete
How interesting that you consider living by ones own individual principles to be foolish (and before you go there, oh yes voting in opposition to your principles is most decidedly NOT living up to your principles)
So, basically, you're just like every lib out there preaching about tolerance and diversity as long as it's in keeping with YOUR tolerance and diversity.
Duly noted...thank you for invalidating your opinion henceforth.
@Axeslinger
ROFLMAO! Hope you eventually manage to get all the knots untied in your brain that you had to tie off to come up with that convoluted brain fart. Does it even REALLY make sense to you?
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I'm past caring if the president embarrasses himself or anyone else. I care only about what results from him being president.
@skeeter
BINGO!
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In answer to the first part of your first question, I'd like to see him get new funding to build new wall and get after it, instead of just make headlines for spending already appropriated funds to repair and replace existing barrier. If he gets beyond that, it will be a plus proportional to the amount of the border that becomes newly secured.
@Smokin Joe
Get used to the idea that he is NOT going to get the funding he needs to construct the border wall of everyone's dreams. The Dims just can't allow it because so much of their own political support and financial contributions are related to allowing illegals to come in and remain here.
Still,his ego is going to demand he build SOME of it,and some is better than none. At a minimum,it is a good start and may inspire candidates to pick up the border wall crusade the next election cycle.
I don't want bubbette to cop a plea, because her hindness would waddle out in no time. I'd like to see her and the cadre of other traitors that she hobnobbed with testing the tensile strength of well made kevlar ropes--after they are convicted, of course. Asset forfeiture, etc, yadda yadda yadda, but it isn't likely, they will stop when they get a few low tier whipping boys (my guess, anyway). Teflon coatings and all that.
I couldn't agree more. I also want a 30 year old Ann Margaret to come by my house and sexually molest me until I beg for mercy.
Guess what.
As for illegals, we have whole jurisdictions which aren't enforcing the law, and may not be getting a count, either. I only hope the data is accurate and the trend continues. I'm within 100 miles of Canada and am tired of hearing Spanish/Mexican spoken all over.
That is,like most problems,one that can only be solved locally. It's due to your local rich farmers and meat packing operations hiring them because they work cheaper than Americans. One LARGE part of the problem is that in rural areas where the large farms and large ranches are located is that there aren't enough Americans living locally to fill those jobs regardless of the amount of money offered. The illegals have already traveled from the 3rd world to the US to look for jobs,so going further north and more rural is no sacrifice for them. Especially since the rural areas are MUCH safer places to raise their children,and less expensive,also.
Then again,if you could get your local chamber of commerce to advertise the jobs and lower living expenses and advantages of moving to and living in a rural area and adding that proof of citizenship will be required and verified,I am betting there are a lot of big city citizens that would be more than happy to move to a rural area where they can have some hope of actually owning their own homes and a secure lifestyle. They ain't going to come on their own,though. Somebody has to let them know the jobs and opportunities are there for any citizen willing to work for them.
And the clintons, just wanting to be the cool kids, and not doing so well. I think she may be keeping Bubba propped up long enough to have him approach room temperature .......
I'm not so sure that isn't a contest that Bubba will win. He has lost a lot of weight and strength,but AFAIK,nobody has seen him collapsing while trying to get into a SUV. Besides,if history has taught us anything,it's to not underestimate Bubba. My bet is he is determined to live at least one day longer than Bubbette! so he can get the codes to her offshore accounts before pissing on her face. Theirs is a on-going criminal conspiracy,not a romance. Bubba needed a bag lady to collect the bribes,and he needed the illusion of a normal family for political purposes. She needed a job where her evil personality was kept in the background. It was and is purely a marriage of convenience and lust for power and wealth. Bubba,like Trump is a narcissistic sociopath who loved nobody but himself until Chelsea came along. I really do think he loves her almost as much as he loves himself.
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IMO, @sneakypete 's tone is due to the fact we've been battling with the more strident NTs for over a year....and your forum 'name' is very similar to another, if I'm not mistaken.
'We've' grown tired of the gratuitous filth and insults thrown at the Republican President....in a forum with Ronald Reagan on its masthead.
Other respected members recently suggested a way of detente so that we can find common ground to make the forum less antagonistic.
Nobody is telling anybody to not criticize the POTUS. We're saying it's not necessary to do it 24/7 in every thread.
....for that proves that they aren't interested in conversation but more to put 'ointment' for losing in the primaries and for some....even on Nov 8th.
@DCPatriot
You're damn right it's the same name I used at TOS because I'm not gonna run and hide from the swine that have infested TOS after I was banned.
That aside, DC, you and I have had other convos and you were ultimately relegated to apologizing to me because you were lambasting me for bashjng trump when in fact I had not and in general do not. While there was no way in hell I would vote for the man because he has lived his life as the antithesis of every principle I hold dear, I am not blinded by hate....when he does something in support of my beliefs (gorsuch) I will give praise, when he does not I will point out that he is doing as I expected because of his life history. Period. I am also predisposed to cut him a little slack on some issues (totally subject to my whims, because they're my beliefs) where he tries to move the ball but the gutless republicans stand in his way.
And I would expect the same, or similar, levels of intellectual honesty from both his supporters and the other never trumpers... sadly, all the fanboy club seems to want is obsequiousness.
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@DCPatriot
You're damn right it's the same name I used at TOS because I'm not gonna run and hide from the swine that have infested TOS after I was banned.
That aside, DC, you and I have had other convos and you were ultimately relegated to apologizing to me because you were lambasting me for bashjng trump when in fact I had not and in general do not. While there was no way in hell I would vote for the man because he has lived his life as the antithesis of every principle I hold dear, I am not blinded by hate....when he does something in support of my beliefs (gorsuch) I will give praise, when he does not I will point out that he is doing as I expected because of his life history. Period. I am also predisposed to cut him a little slack on some issues (totally subject to my whims, because they're my beliefs) where he tries to move the ball but the gutless republicans stand in his way.
And I would expect the same, or similar, levels of intellectual honesty from both his supporters and the other never trumpers... sadly, all the fanboy club seems to want is obsequiousness.
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@DCPatriot
You're damn right it's the same name I used at TOS because I'm not gonna run and hide from the swine that have infested TOS after I was banned.
That aside, DC, you and I have had other convos and you were ultimately relegated to apologizing to me because you were lambasting me for bashjng trump when in fact I had not and in general do not. While there was no way in hell I would vote for the man because he has lived his life as the antithesis of every principle I hold dear, I am not blinded by hate....when he does something in support of my beliefs (gorsuch) I will give praise, when he does not I will point out that he is doing as I expected because of his life history. Period. I am also predisposed to cut him a little slack on some issues (totally subject to my whims, because they're my beliefs) where he tries to move the ball but the gutless republicans stand in his way.
And I would expect the same, or similar, levels of intellectual honesty from both his supporters and the other never trumpers... sadly, all the fanboy club seems to want is obsequiousness.
@Axeslinger
HorseHillary! You came here with a chip on your shoulder looking for a fight,and you have no freaking principals OR knowledge or you would have never tried to accuse me of being a Trump "fan boy". Or anyone else's fan boy. I was banned for life from FR for calling Jim Bob out on his hypocritical sudden support for Boy Jorge,after claiming just a month or so earlier that if he were elected that he,Jim Bob,would pick up his rifle and march/roll to DC.
Don't go blaming anybody here if your motormouth causes you to step on your dick. It's your own damn fault.
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@DCPatriot
You're damn right it's the same name I used at TOS because I'm not gonna run and hide from the swine that have infested TOS after I was banned.
That aside, DC, you and I have had other convos and you were ultimately relegated to apologizing to me because you were lambasting me for bashjng trump when in fact I had not and in general do not. While there was no way in hell I would vote for the man because he has lived his life as the antithesis of every principle I hold dear, I am not blinded by hate....when he does something in support of my beliefs (gorsuch) I will give praise, when he does not I will point out that he is doing as I expected because of his life history. Period. I am also predisposed to cut him a little slack on some issues (totally subject to my whims, because they're my beliefs) where he tries to move the ball but the gutless republicans stand in his way.
And I would expect the same, or similar, levels of intellectual honesty from both his supporters and the other never trumpers... sadly, all the fanboy club seems to want is obsequiousness.
What I meant was that there is another member HERE with a similar moniker. Maybe it's just the "A" or the "Axe".
And it's possible the @sneakypete was confusing that member with you.
Everybody's so effing defensive. Lighten up.
@mystery-ak ....you too. ^-^
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@Axeslinger
HorseHillary! You came here with a chip on your shoulder looking for a fight,and you have no freaking principals OR knowledge or you would have never tried to accuse me of being a Trump "fan boy". Or anyone else's fan boy. I was banned for life from FR for calling Jim Bob out on his hypocritical sudden support for Boy Jorge,after claiming just a month or so earlier that if he were elected that he,Jim Bob,would pick up his rifle and march/roll to DC.
Don't go blaming anybody here if your motormouth causes you to step on your dick. It's your own damn fault.
Well, there goes THAT theory..... :laugh:
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Everybody's so effing defensive. Lighten up.
@mystery-ak ....you too.
Oh yeah, that's gonna help.
All you did is validate every criticism and observation of Trump supporters made on this thread.
I think Petey mentioned gun and foot before dancing in an earlier exchange. Apparently for some trump supporters, it's gun and foot while making an argument.
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Damn, @sneakypete
'Love' the hell out of you!
....and @Frank Cannon and @Wingnut too! :tongue2:
I'm here for you. Like if have another myocardial infarction and I'll be there next to your hospital bed ripping out IV tubes as a distraction so I swipe your gold rings and such! :beer: :beer: :patriot:
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I'm here for you. Like if have another myocardial infarction and I'll be there next to your hospital bed ripping out IV tubes as a distraction so I swipe your gold rings and such! :beer: :beer: :patriot:
Stay as sweet as you are. :tongue2:
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Well this went really bad really quickly.
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(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Well-That-Escalated-Quickly.jpg)
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Well this went really bad really quickly.
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I'm past caring if the president embarrasses himself or anyone else. I care only about what results from him being president.
:thumbsup3:
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@Axeslinger
HorseHillary! You came here with a chip on your shoulder looking for a fight,and you have no freaking principals OR knowledge or you would have never tried to accuse me of being a Trump "fan boy". Or anyone else's fan boy. I was banned for life from FR for calling Jim Bob out on his hypocritical sudden support for Boy Jorge,after claiming just a month or so earlier that if he were elected that he,Jim Bob,would pick up his rifle and march/roll to DC.
Don't go blaming anybody here if your motormouth causes you to step on your dick. It's your own damn fault.
@sneakypete
Speaking of stepping on your dick...you may have just outed yourself there friend...or your reading and comprehension skills are lacking: at no point did I say you were a fanboy. I was intentionally speaking in generic terms. Go back and reread it. Same thing when my other comment apparently went over your head.
So which is it? You've outed yourself or you need to brush up on your reading comprehension?
You have advocated on this thread that if we didn't vote for Trump we have no room to complain about what does or does not happen...logically you are therefore saying we should have no say...therefore you want us silenced. Those aren't non-sequitors...those are just logical conclusions. So, 'splain it to me: how is this different than the libs want to silence that those that they disagree with? Inquiring minds want to know.
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What I meant was that there is another member HERE with a similar moniker. Maybe it's just the "A" or the "Axe".
And it's possible the @sneakypete was confusing that member with you.
Everybody's so effing defensive. Lighten up.
@mystery-ak ....you too. ^-^
@DCPatriot
Roger that...my apologies if I misinterpreted your implication.
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@sneakypete
Speaking of stepping on your dick...you may have just outed yourself there friend...or your reading and comprehension skills are lacking: at no point did I say you were a fanboy. I was intentionally speaking in generic terms. Go back and reread it. Same thing when my other comment apparently went over your head.
So which is it? You've outed yourself or you need to brush up on your reading comprehension?
You have advocated on this thread that if we didn't vote for Trump we have no room to complain about what does or does not happen...logically you are therefore saying we should have no say...therefore you want us silenced. Those aren't non-sequitors...those are just logical conclusions. So, 'splain it to me: how is this different than the libs want to silence that those that they disagree with? Inquiring minds want to know.
@Axeslinger
With all due respect,ESAD.
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@Axeslinger
With all due respect,ESAD.
@sneakypete
Thank you for proving my point....and outing yourself. Carry on...
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@sneakypete
Thank you for proving my point....and outing yourself. Carry on...
The cult of personality has become so bad that they're now even imitating Trump's favorite methods of communication. **nononono*
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Hillary would have lost to most anything the GOP put up, even a ham sandwich
@geronl
I dunno. You'd be amazed how far enough people would go for a good ham sandwich!
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Enough with the insults...
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@geronl
I dunno. You'd be amazed how far enough people would go for a good ham sandwich!
I've seen many a good people brought down by the prospect of a Klondike Bar.
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I've seen many a good people brought down by the prospect of a Klondike Bar.
*grin* My downfall was once a Three Musketeers!
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*grin* My downfall was once a Three Musketeers!
frozen snickers was my crack when I was pregnant...
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frozen snickers was my crack when I was pregnant...
@mystery-ak
What was your Vicodin, then---Milky Way? ;)
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@Smokin Joe
"Constitution Party"? Is that a new sitcom on Fox?
Never heard of Castle. For all the good you did,you might as well have voted for me,and I wasn't even running.
@sneakypete
Makes no difference, and you have no say in the matter. Using our vote is a personal decision each of us makes, according to what we think is appropriate. It isn't a tool of the hive mind.
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@sneakypete
Makes no difference, and you have no say in the matter. Using our vote is a personal decision each of us makes, according to what we think is appropriate. It isn't a tool of the hive mind.
@CatherineofAragon
Keep reading, you'll see.
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@Smokin Joe
I honestly don't know one single person that is happy that Trump is the President,but I do know a BUNCH of people who are glad the Clinton's aren't back in the WH.
@sneakypete
That's not good enough. The election was half a year ago. Clinton is gone, over, history...she has nothing to do with anything. The only reason some keep bringing up the Hillary meme is to try and make themselves feel better about Trump, who has broken campaign promise after campaign promise while he sits up there in the Oval Office, obsessed with Twitter and his enemies instead of getting the hard work done.
I'll bet you criticized the left every time they yelled "Bush's fault."
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@CatherineofAragon
Keep reading, you'll see.
@Axeslinger
LOL
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I won't vote for trash like Trump simply because I'm daring his garbage fans to stop slapping their gums together and get to punishing me.
This particular piece of trash claims to be a minister but he sounds a lot more like a mullah.
(http://i.imgur.com/xmEciNu.png)
@Cripplecreek
(https://spycurious.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/not-now-bill.gif?w=240)
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@Sighlass
Yeah,national elections aren't about saving the Republic,they are about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"
National elections are between me and God. Last I checked God was about as far from "me me me" as possible and thankfully so. This republic's life is dependent on one thing and it isn't Trump.
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other." ~~ President John Adams
We were given a choice. When the choice is two obvious evils choose neither.
And Elijah came near to all the people and said, “How long will you hesitate between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him.” But the people did not answer him a word. (1 Kgs. 18:21)
Now if I wanted "Me Me ME Damnit" all one had to do was listen to one of Trump's speeches. "Me me my book, me and more me" was about all he said.
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We were given a choice. When the choice is two obvious evils choose neither.
@Sighlass
Especially if your state, like mine, offers the option to vote "None of These Candidates."
We heard it all the time---The nation's house was burning! The ship of state was sinking!
So where was it written that you or anyone absolutely had to endorse one of a pair of arsonists or
one of a pair of anchor-throwers to put out the blaze or plug up the leak?
(And I'd still love to know the actual percentages of actual, not new or last minute Republicans or Democrats,
voted for Donaldus Minimus or Hilarious Rodent Clinton in the open primaries. If either or both benefitted that heavily
from open-primary party-changing voting, it's further evidence as to the mischief open primaries can really cause. If
they didn't, then both parties seem to be in dire need of electroshock treatment.)
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So where was it written that you or anyone absolutely had to endorse one of a pair of arsonists or one of a pair of anchor-throwers to put out the blaze or plug up the leak?
Exactly, not like we are idiots, we know humans are not perfect and there will never be a perfect candidate. The wisdom was in deciding where to draw the line in the sand on how imperfect a person was allowed to still get our votes. I personally knew Jesus himself wasn't running at any time in the election cycle, but Trump just had way too many negatives to even be considered. I was not about to be just another Christian standing beside Trump while he stood beside his framed picture of himself on the cover of Playboy.
That said and like another poster said on this thread, when Trump does something right, I will tout it with proper respect. When Trump does something wrong, you can bet I have no problem pointing it out. I am a Cruz fan, but when Ted does something I don't agree with, I have no problem voicing it. I respect others that are of the same mindset. Telling it like it is, with a moral compass that points true.
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Exactly, not like we are idiots, we know humans are not perfect and there will never be a perfect candidate. The wisdom was in deciding where to draw the line in the sand on how imperfect a person was allowed to still get our votes. I personally knew Jesus himself wasn't running at any time in the election cycle, but Trump just had way too many negatives to even be considered. I was not about to be just another Christian standing beside Trump while he stood beside his framed picture of himself on the cover of Playboy.
That said and like another poster said on this thread, when Trump does something right, I will tout it with proper respect. When Trump does something wrong, you can bet I have no problem pointing it out. I am a Cruz fan, but when Ted does something I don't agree with, I have no problem voicing it. I respect others that are of the same mindset. Telling it like it is, with a moral compass that points true.
@Sighlass
Always remember the wise counsel of Albert Jay Nock: The question of who is right is a very small one, indeed,
beside the question of what is right.
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@Sighlass
Always remember the wise counsel of Albert Jay Nock: The question of who is right is a very small one, indeed,
beside the question of what is right.
Deep quote, thanks. I love a good quote.
@EasyAce
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@sneakypete
Makes no difference, and you have no say in the matter. Using our vote is a personal decision each of us makes, according to what we think is appropriate. It isn't a tool of the hive mind.
@CatherineofAragon
Interesting. You "quote" me using someone else's words,and accuse me of having a hive mind while you are at it.
Hmmmmmm.......
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@CatherineofAragon
Interesting. You "quote" me using someone else's words,and accuse me of having a hive mind while you are at it.
Hmmmmmm.......
@sneakypete
Whose words? Did I infringe on somebody's word copyright?
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@sneakypete
That's not good enough. The election was half a year ago. Clinton is gone, over, history...she has nothing to do with anything. The only reason some keep bringing up the Hillary meme is to try and make themselves feel better about Trump, who has broken campaign promise after campaign promise while he sits up there in the Oval Office, obsessed with Twitter and his enemies instead of getting the hard work done.
@CatherineofAragon
Is this national "Hissy Fit Day",and you were voted "Head Hissy".
Just how long is this fit going to last? You mention "the election was over half a year ago,gone,history",yet you are still whining because your favorite cretin didn't win.
Do you think,like Maxine Waters,that your delusions are everyone else's realities? Your guy,girl,multiple choice didn't win. Like you said,it was 6 months ago. Get over it.
I'll bet you criticized the left every time they yelled "Bush's fault."
Yeah,ya sure got ME pegged. If there was one thing I am known for,it is protecting the Bush Crime Family. With such keen insights as that,it's hard to believe your guy lost. I may even have to consider voting for your chosen whatever next time because you are clearly more insightful than me.
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@sneakypete
Whose words? Did I infringe on somebody's word copyright?
@CatherineofAragon
Beats me.
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@CatherineofAragon
Beats me.
@sneakypete
Okay, because I still don't know what you're talking about, but whatever.
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@sneakypete
Okay, because I still don't know what you're talking about, but whatever.
It's all good.
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@sneakypete
Is this national "Hissy Fit Day",and you were voted "Head Hissy".
No, it was National Reply To A Post On A Forum Day, and I was celebrating it. Show me where it was a "fit."
Just how long is this fit going to last?
You have to show me specifically where I went off the rails into a fit. Where did I become hysterical?
You mention "the election was over half a year ago,gone,history",yet you are still whining because your favorite cretin didn't win.
Yet I didn't mention a single candidate's name. On the other hand, you're trying to make yourself feel better about Trump's stupidity by parroting the Hillary line.
Do you think,like Maxine Waters,that your delusions are everyone else's realities?
What the hell does Maxine Waters have to do with anything? Come on, Pete, stop trying to deflect from the points I made by lobbing emotion-based accusations. You're getting way into left field here.
Your guy,girl,multiple choice didn't win. Like you said,it was 6 months ago. Get over it.
Deflecting again and trying to turn this around on me when you are the one who can't make it past the election. I see what you're doing there.
Yeah,ya sure got ME pegged.
Pretty much.
If there was one thing I am known for,it is protecting the Bush Crime Family. With such keen insights as that,it's hard to believe your guy lost. I may even have to consider voting for your chosen whatever next time because you are clearly more insightful than me.
I don't need much insight to recognize the painful truth that you need to stop enabling Trump. You've said he's not Hillary---okay. Now rise above that low standard and demand more from the public servant in the Oval Office, or we're in for four crappy years.
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No, it was National Reply To A Post On A Forum Day, and I was celebrating it. Show me where it was a "fit."
@CatherineofAragon
I thought the celebration was a perfect fit! ;)
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@sneakypete
No, it was National Reply To A Post On A Forum Day, and I was celebrating it. Show me where it was a "fit."
You have to show me specifically where I went off the rails into a fit. Where did I become hysterical?
Yet I didn't mention a single candidate's name. On the other hand, you're trying to make yourself feel better about Trump's stupidity by parroting the Hillary line.
What the hell does Maxine Waters have to do with anything? Come on, Pete, stop trying to deflect from the points I made by lobbing emotion-based accusations. You're getting way into left field here.
Deflecting again and trying to turn this around on me when you are the one who can't make it past the election. I see what you're doing there.
Pretty much.
I don't need much insight to recognize the painful truth that you need to stop enabling Trump. You've said he's not Hillary---okay. Now rise above that low standard and demand more from the public servant in the Oval Office, or we're in for four crappy years.
@CatherineofAragon
Calling you a fool is giving you credit for wisdom you don't have.
Everything you accuse of of is something you just pulled out of your ass.
For the record,I am NOT and never have been a fan of either Trump or Bush. You need to cool your fevered imagination. Unlike you,I don't live in a fantasy world. I live in a real world with real realities.
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@sneakypete
Okay, because I still don't know what you're talking about, but whatever.
@CatherineofAragon if you ever do figure out what he's talking about..on anything (other than the gun forum...he's pretty good there)...please let us know.
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@CatherineofAragon
Calling you a fool is giving you credit for wisdom you don't have.
Everything you accuse of of is something you just pulled out of your ass.
For the record,I am NOT and never have been a fan of either Trump or Bush. You need to cool your fevered imagination. Unlike you,I don't live in a fantasy world. I live in a real world with real realities.
@sneakypete
I didn't say you were a Trump fan, and I never mentioned Bush.
Go have a glass of wine. :seeya:
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@CatherineofAragon
I thought the celebration was a perfect fit! ;)
@EasyAce
:beer:
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@CatherineofAragon if you ever do figure out what he's talking about..on anything (other than the gun forum...he's pretty good there)...please let us know.
@txradioguy
I know what you mean. Pete's good to talk with about a lot of things, but something I said put him in a lather, for some reason.
@sneakypete
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@CatherineofAragon if you ever do figure out what he's talking about..on anything (other than the gun forum...he's pretty good there)...please let us know.
@txradioguy @CatherineofAragon
I am fed up to HERE with EVERYBODY bitching about Trump not having fixed everything wrong with government in the first 4 months in office,and then turning around and screaming I am a Trump groupie for trying to moderate the whining to give the man a chance.
Yeah,I voted for Trump,and you all know why I did,as well as why I am not and never have been a big fan of his. I have posted those reasons and thoughts multiple times. Yet,anytime I or anyone else tries to defend him against insane accusations,you act like Bush were still president and I am a Bush Bot. Hell,I am the one who originated the term "Bush Bot'.
Like it or not,Trump IS the current president,NOT the Party Person of your preference,and NOT Clinton. New guy on the job,and he had no idea at all of what he was getting into and ALL the pros in both branches of the ruling party are laying mines in his path BECAUSE he is an outsider and IF he is successful in any way he is a threat to their entrenched Party System of Good Old Boys scratching each others backs to return favors,and to hell with the Constitution,the law of the land,or the voters that put them in office.
AND....,in just a few short months there has been a rapid decline in the numbers of illegal aliens here and coming here,and there will be even fewer soon IF you Party People can convince the Pro Politicians you WISH were in the WH instead of him that if they don't help him cut spending on crap like sanctuary cities,programs to import more Muslims to America as refugees with special status and benefits, etc,etc,etc, that if they want to be re-elected the next cycle they need to support Trump's efforts instead of laying mines in his path.
The reality is that the Professional Party People that have made whole careers as well as fortunes lying to the voters while making backdoor deals with the the supposed political opposition are ONLY working to keep themselves in office. We,the voters,SHOULD be working to make America the nation she used to be.
Sooo,keep playing your little reindeer Party Games,and you won't have anyone to blame but yourselves when America no longer exists as a free and independent nation,and is replaced by a cog in the global machine with a nation with a title like "The North American Economic Zone",along with Mexico and Canada.
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@txradioguy @CatherineofAragon
I am fed up to HERE with EVERYBODY bitching about Trump not having fixed everything wrong with government in the first 4 months in office,and then turning around and screaming I am a Trump groupie for trying to moderate the whining to give the man a chance.
Yeah,I voted for Trump,and you all know why I did,as well as why I am not and never have been a big fan of his. I have posted those reasons and thoughts multiple times. Yet,anytime I or anyone else tries to defend him against insane accusations,you act like Bush were still president and I am a Bush Bot. Hell,I am the one who originated the term "Bush Bot'.
Like it or not,Trump IS the current president,NOT the Party Person of your preference,and NOT Clinton. New guy on the job,and he had no idea at all of what he was getting into and ALL the pros in both branches of the ruling party are laying mines in his path BECAUSE he is an outsider and IF he is successful in any way he is a threat to their entrenched Party System of Good Old Boys scratching each others backs to return favors,and to hell with the Constitution,the law of the land,or the voters that put them in office.
AND....,in just a few short months there has been a rapid decline in the numbers of illegal aliens here and coming here,and there will be even fewer soon IF you Party People can convince the Pro Politicians you WISH were in the WH instead of him that if they don't help him cut spending on crap like sanctuary cities,programs to import more Muslims to America as refugees with special status and benefits, etc,etc,etc, that if they want to be re-elected the next cycle they need to support Trump's efforts instead of laying mines in his path.
The reality is that the Professional Party People that have made whole careers as well as fortunes lying to the voters while making backdoor deals with the the supposed political opposition are ONLY working to keep themselves in office. We,the voters,SHOULD be working to make America the nation she used to be.
Sooo,keep playing your little reindeer Party Games,and you won't have anyone to blame but yourselves when America no longer exists as a free and independent nation,and is replaced by a cog in the global machine with a nation with a title like "The North American Economic Zone",along with Mexico and Canada.
You are a bot, you are a blind supporter of Trump. Worse than the Bushbots (oh I'm sorry, Jorge Bush).
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@txradioguy @CatherineofAragon
I am fed up to HERE with EVERYBODY bitching about Trump not having fixed everything wrong with government in the first 4 months in office,and then turning around and screaming I am a Trump groupie for trying to moderate the whining to give the man a chance.
Yeah,I voted for Trump,and you all know why I did,as well as why I am not and never have been a big fan of his. I have posted those reasons and thoughts multiple times. Yet,anytime I or anyone else tries to defend him against insane accusations,you act like Bush were still president and I am a Bush Bot. Hell,I am the one who originated the term "Bush Bot'.
Like it or not,Trump IS the current president,NOT the Party Person of your preference,and NOT Clinton. New guy on the job,and he had no idea at all of what he was getting into and ALL the pros in both branches of the ruling party are laying mines in his path BECAUSE he is an outsider and IF he is successful in any way he is a threat to their entrenched Party System of Good Old Boys scratching each others backs to return favors,and to hell with the Constitution,the law of the land,or the voters that put them in office.
AND....,in just a few short months there has been a rapid decline in the numbers of illegal aliens here and coming here,and there will be even fewer soon IF you Party People can convince the Pro Politicians you WISH were in the WH instead of him that if they don't help him cut spending on crap like sanctuary cities,programs to import more Muslims to America as refugees with special status and benefits, etc,etc,etc, that if they want to be re-elected the next cycle they need to support Trump's efforts instead of laying mines in his path.
The reality is that the Professional Party People that have made whole careers as well as fortunes lying to the voters while making backdoor deals with the the supposed political opposition are ONLY working to keep themselves in office. We,the voters,SHOULD be working to make America the nation she used to be.
Sooo,keep playing your little reindeer Party Games,and you won't have anyone to blame but yourselves when America no longer exists as a free and independent nation,and is replaced by a cog in the global machine with a nation with a title like "The North American Economic Zone",along with Mexico and Canada.
(https://imgfast.net/users/1514/56/66/82/smiles/bravo_2.gif)
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You are a bot, you are a blind supporter of Trump. Worse than the Bushbots (oh I'm sorry, Jorge Bush).
Sure.
*****rollingeyes*****
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You are a bot, you are a blind supporter of Trump. Worse than the Bushbots (oh I'm sorry, Jorge Bush).
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
And you are a clueless fool that doesn't even understand simple English.
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You are a bot, you are a blind supporter of Trump. Worse than the Bushbots (oh I'm sorry, Jorge Bush).
As usual...instead of responding to the many points made in the quote.... a terrific rebuttal, btw, to the insults of others (plural)
you play the man.
**nononono*
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As usual...instead of responding to the many points made in the quote.... a terrific rebuttal, btw, to the insults of others (plural)
you play the man.
**nononono*
You're a bot too, btw. You have never ever uttered a single disparaging word about Trump: nothing, not a single thing. I have never supported a politician to the extent where I found absolutely nothing wrong with them. You are personally attacked when Trump is attack, and your instinct is to blindly attack back. Why you and RiV attach your ego to that moron I will never be able to understand, but whatever.
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@Weird Tolkienish Figure
And you are a clueless fool that doesn't even understand simple English.
Do you dispute what I said?
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Do you dispute what I said?
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
PROVING you are a clueless fool.
Did you not understand ANYTHING I wrote?
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So no then? Got it.
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Pete is up next!
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You're a bot too, btw. You have never ever uttered a single disparaging word about Trump: nothing, not a single thing. I have never supported a politician to the extent where I found absolutely nothing wrong with them. You are personally attacked when Trump is attack, and your instinct is to blindly attack back. Why you and RiV attach your ego to that moron I will never be able to understand, but whatever.
We've talked about this @Weird Tolkienish Figure ... if you include me in a post, you need to type @Right_in_Virginia (Not RiV)
And, since you asked, I have not attached my ego to the President. I continue to believe President Trump is the right leader for these times. Let me know if you would like me to go through the reasons again for you.
Thanks.
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@txradioguy @CatherineofAragon
I am fed up to HERE with EVERYBODY bitching about Trump not having fixed everything wrong with government in the first 4 months in office,and then turning around and screaming I am a Trump groupie for trying to moderate the whining to give the man a chance.
Yeah,I voted for Trump,and you all know why I did,as well as why I am not and never have been a big fan of his. I have posted those reasons and thoughts multiple times. Yet,anytime I or anyone else tries to defend him against insane accusations,you act like Bush were still president and I am a Bush Bot. Hell,I am the one who originated the term "Bush Bot'.
Like it or not,Trump IS the current president,NOT the Party Person of your preference,and NOT Clinton. New guy on the job,and he had no idea at all of what he was getting into and ALL the pros in both branches of the ruling party are laying mines in his path BECAUSE he is an outsider and IF he is successful in any way he is a threat to their entrenched Party System of Good Old Boys scratching each others backs to return favors,and to hell with the Constitution,the law of the land,or the voters that put them in office.
AND....,in just a few short months there has been a rapid decline in the numbers of illegal aliens here and coming here,and there will be even fewer soon IF you Party People can convince the Pro Politicians you WISH were in the WH instead of him that if they don't help him cut spending on crap like sanctuary cities,programs to import more Muslims to America as refugees with special status and benefits, etc,etc,etc, that if they want to be re-elected the next cycle they need to support Trump's efforts instead of laying mines in his path.
The reality is that the Professional Party People that have made whole careers as well as fortunes lying to the voters while making backdoor deals with the the supposed political opposition are ONLY working to keep themselves in office. We,the voters,SHOULD be working to make America the nation she used to be.
Sooo,keep playing your little reindeer Party Games,and you won't have anyone to blame but yourselves when America no longer exists as a free and independent nation,and is replaced by a cog in the global machine with a nation with a title like "The North American Economic Zone",along with Mexico and Canada.
Good post @sneakypete ... clear and well-written. :beer:
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And, since you asked, I have not attached my ego to the President.
Anyone else here believe that?
I have never, ever met or came across any politician. anyone I will support 100% at all times no matter what.
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Anyone else here believe that?
I have never, ever met or came across any politician. anyone I will support 100% at all times no matter what.
What makes you think I support the President 100% of the time @Weird Tolkienish Figure ?
(And is it safe to assume you'd prefer I not list the reasons I think the President is the right leader at the right time? ^-^ )
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And is it safe to assume you'd prefer I not list the reasons I think the President is the right leader at the right time?
@Right_in_Virginia Nope. Ass/u/me and all that. Have at. Tell us why.
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Your Monkey owes me a Keyboard @Wingnut
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You are a bot, you are a blind supporter of Trump. Worse than the Bushbots (oh I'm sorry, Jorge Bush).
@sneakypete No, Pete isn't a bot. Sheesh.
I get what he is saying in that if Republicans keep going off on tangents and squabbling, the Dems will laugh all the way to the bank, and the Republicans (Remember the GOPe) will be right beside them. They're all doing it now.
This is going to be a challenge for Trump, but face it, it would have been a challenge for Cruz, too. Cruz is no more an insider than Trump is in the sense of having the enmity of the backroom boys at the GOP for so long they spurned him to 'deal' with Trump. They're dealing with Trump, all right.
So we are where we are. There has been a lot of good progress while the GOPe was getting together with the Democrats, but I think good things are going to get hung up.
The Methane rule was not overturned thanks to the GOPee Stalwarts of McCain, Collins, and Graham http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262220.msg1316718.html#msg1316718 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262220.msg1316718.html#msg1316718) a lot of that methane comes as a byproduct of oil drilling. If you can't drill until the pipeline is in, you have already limited production by pipeline capacity, if you put in more line than you need, you have wasted money, and the biggest obstruction to putting in those feeder pipelines is the labyrinthine Federal permitting process. Considering over 50% of the land west of the Mississippi, and a considerable amount of the Appalachians and Alleghenies are Federal, too, the effect on drilling for oil and natural gas will be negative.
That has potential to be a serious blow to the energy industry because pipelines are only an expense if you don't have product to move, but hey, Tillerson got his golden parachute, and EOM is on the teevee arm waving about fueling the planet with pond scum. Let it age a while, deep under ground, Rex, that's how we got the other stuff (oil).
While Trump was saying AGW isn't proven, Tillerson signed this POS. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262569.msg1319234.html#msg1319234 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262569.msg1319234.html#msg1319234) Always watch what the other hand is doing. Who's running the show?
Any meaningful war on obamacare is in the trenches. not much progress for the fighting, but the same GOPE who played the voters by voting for repeal when they couldn't get it across the Resolute Desk are resolute in not passing it again.
Retaining the Ethanol Mandate is just dumb. Without even arguing the use of ethanol as a fuel, the way it is set up is that a set number of gallons will be sold as motor fuel, regardless of how much fuel is sold. If only 1 gallon of gasoline was sold, the same amount of ethanol would have to be mixed in with it as if billions of gallons were sold. Considering 10% is the limit (the "blend wall") where damage starts happening to engines and fuel systems and warranties are voided, maybe that isn't such a good idea. Just let the Market decide.
Such things aren't helpful, and Congress is the problem in much of this.
Anything that affects energy and transportation is going to damage any hopes of economic recovery.
It's time for the administration to get their crap together on this and talk with someone who is knowledgeable about what IS, not what is pie in the sky in the energy industry, because pie in the sky will soak up subsidies, but it won't turn a wheel toward prosperity for anyone but the people sucking up the (taxpayers) money.
It is high time we quit with the circular firing squad, and focus on the real enemy: the Dems and the GOPe in Congress and elsewhere who are scuttling the attempts to set policy right.
What sucks is that every time there is a decent discussion going on someone has to start this Trumpanzee versus Nevertrumper rematch shit again and disrupt it. That's classic trolling, and the wolf pack tactics stink, too.
In the meantime, stuff is happening out there, and its getting lost in the shitstorm.
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@sneakypete No, Pete isn't a bot. Sheesh.
I get what he is saying in that if Republicans keep going off on tangents and squabbling, the Dems will laugh all the way to the bank, and the Republicans (Remember the GOPe) will be right beside them. They're all doing it now.
@Smokin Joe
And they will keep doing it because with their faithful followers blindly supporting them,there is no personal or professional downside for them.
It is high time we quit with the circular firing squad, and focus on the real enemy: the Dems and the GOPe in Congress and elsewhere who are scuttling the attempts to set policy right.
What sucks is that every time there is a decent discussion going on someone has to start this Trumpanzee versus Nevertrumper rematch shit again and disrupt it. That's classic trolling, and the wolf pack tactics stink, too.
In the meantime, stuff is happening out there, and its getting lost in the shitstorm.
And there ya have it.
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@sneakypete No, Pete isn't a bot. Sheesh.
I get what he is saying in that if Republicans keep going off on tangents and squabbling, the Dems will laugh all the way to the bank, and the Republicans (Remember the GOPe) will be right beside them. They're all doing it now.
This is going to be a challenge for Trump, but face it, it would have been a challenge for Cruz, too. Cruz is no more an insider than Trump is in the sense of having the enmity of the backroom boys at the GOP for so long they spurned him to 'deal' with Trump. They're dealing with Trump, all right.
So we are where we are. There has been a lot of good progress while the GOPe was getting together with the Democrats, but I think good things are going to get hung up.
The Methane rule was not overturned thanks to the GOPee Stalwarts of McCain, Collins, and Graham http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262220.msg1316718.html#msg1316718 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262220.msg1316718.html#msg1316718) a lot of that methane comes as a byproduct of oil drilling. If you can't drill until the pipeline is in, you have already limited production by pipeline capacity, if you put in more line than you need, you have wasted money, and the biggest obstruction to putting in those feeder pipelines is the labyrinthine Federal permitting process. Considering over 50% of the land west of the Mississippi, and a considerable amount of the Appalachians and Alleghenies are Federal, too, the effect on drilling for oil and natural gas will be negative.
That has potential to be a serious blow to the energy industry because pipelines are only an expense if you don't have product to move, but hey, Tillerson got his golden parachute, and EOM is on the teevee arm waving about fueling the planet with pond scum. Let it age a while, deep under ground, Rex, that's how we got the other stuff (oil).
While Trump was saying AGW isn't proven, Tillerson signed this POS. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262569.msg1319234.html#msg1319234 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262569.msg1319234.html#msg1319234) Always watch what the other hand is doing. Who's running the show?
Any meaningful war on obamacare is in the trenches. not much progress for the fighting, but the same GOPE who played the voters by voting for repeal when they couldn't get it across the Resolute Desk are resolute in not passing it again.
Retaining the Ethanol Mandate is just dumb. Without even arguing the use of ethanol as a fuel, the way it is set up is that a set number of gallons will be sold as motor fuel, regardless of how much fuel is sold. If only 1 gallon of gasoline was sold, the same amount of ethanol would have to be mixed in with it as if billions of gallons were sold. Considering 10% is the limit (the "blend wall") where damage starts happening to engines and fuel systems and warranties are voided, maybe that isn't such a good idea. Just let the Market decide.
Such things aren't helpful, and Congress is the problem in much of this.
Anything that affects energy and transportation is going to damage any hopes of economic recovery.
It's time for the administration to get their crap together on this and talk with someone who is knowledgeable about what IS, not what is pie in the sky in the energy industry, because pie in the sky will soak up subsidies, but it won't turn a wheel toward prosperity for anyone but the people sucking up the (taxpayers) money.
It is high time we quit with the circular firing squad, and focus on the real enemy: the Dems and the GOPe in Congress and elsewhere who are scuttling the attempts to set policy right.
What sucks is that every time there is a decent discussion going on someone has to start this Trumpanzee versus Nevertrumper rematch shit again and disrupt it. That's classic trolling, and the wolf pack tactics stink, too.
In the meantime, stuff is happening out there, and its getting lost in the shitstorm.
Thank you for that post @Smokin Joe :)
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@sneakypete No, Pete isn't a bot. Sheesh.
I get what he is saying in that if Republicans keep going off on tangents and squabbling, the Dems will laugh all the way to the bank, and the Republicans (Remember the GOPe) will be right beside them. They're all doing it now.
Good post @Smokin Joe ... I especially liked the quote above. It illustrates what I've often heard in political circles: The democrats understand tribal warfare. The Republicans do not.
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Your Monkey owes me a Keyboard @Wingnut
But . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gywtl5gVAZg
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Has anyone presented the theory that they're doing this to Trump because the Obama scandal on unlawful surveillance and unmasking of Americans is starting to bubble up?
Also, please recall that Maxine Waters told us all once or twice that Barack Obama was compiling the MOADATA the mother of all databases.
And lastly, Comey doesn't want to answer questions in private because he wouldn't be able to decline giving an answer based upon an ongoing investigation or that "it's classified".
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And lastly, Comey doesn't want to answer questions in private because he wouldn't be able to decline giving an answer based upon an ongoing investigation or that "it's classified".
He doesn't want to answer questions in private because any publicity of his answers would be off the record by un-named sources.
You'll note that the Dems aren't exactly screaming for him to testify before committee now he's said he'll only do so publicly. In fact, they've gone totally silent on it. I'll leave the dots for you to connect at your leisure.
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@Smokin Joe
And they will keep doing it because with their faithful followers blindly supporting them,there is no personal or professional downside for them.
And there ya have it.
@sneakypete @Smokin Joe
Agree with every thing you said Joe EXCEPT the illustrious "Pete" right here on this very thread said that if you didn't vote for Trump...:
"Ok,since you didn't participate you have no grounds to complain. "
OR
"At BEST,you are enablers. You earned it,wear it!"
So Pete you can take your holier than thou attitude and shove it. YOU are the one who derailed this thread by saying you want to silence those of us who did not vote for Trump. I say again, sir, what is the difference between you and our liberal "friends" who want to silence those opinions they disagreee with? Because from where I'm sitting, there is none.
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@sneakypete @Smokin Joe
Agree with every thing you said Joe EXCEPT the illustrious "Pete" right here on this very thread said that if you didn't vote for Trump...:
"Ok,since you didn't participate you have no grounds to complain. "
OR
"At BEST,you are enablers. You earned it,wear it!"
So Pete you can take your holier than thou attitude and shove it. YOU are the one who derailed this thread by saying you want to silence those of us who did not vote for Trump. I say again, sir, what is the difference between you and our liberal "friends" who want to silence those opinions they disagreee with? Because from where I'm sitting, there is none.
@Axeslinger
Ahhh,so you are one of those people who just can't handle the truth.
I can only imagine the epic whining you would be doing if Bubbette! had won instead of Trump,and how you would be blaming her win on Trump instead of the Republican insider of your dreams.
You Party People regulars are so child-like. Santa didn't bring you the "toy" (candidate of your choice),so you are throwing a hissy-fit and wanting to burn the place down after finding out that holding your breath until you turned blue and stamping your little feets didn't work.
ADULTS understand that it's about saving the country and the American way of life,not saving the alleged Republican Party and all the Democrats that run it.
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@Axeslinger
Ahhh,so you are one of those people who just can't handle the truth.
I can only imagine the epic whining you would be doing if Bubbette! had won instead of Trump,and how you would be blaming her win on Trump instead of the Republican insider of your dreams.
You Party People regulars are so child-like. Santa didn't bring you the "toy" (candidate of your choice),so you are throwing a hissy-fit and wanting to burn the place down after finding out that holding your breath until you turned blue and stamping your little feets didn't work.
ADULTS understand that it's about saving the country and the American way of life,not saving the alleged Republican Party and all the Democrats that run it.
@sneakypete
You fool! I despise the Republican Party...they are less than worthless. I welcome the day the feckless tools are replaced by somethjng conservative. The adults were able to recognize that Trump was going to destroy the conservative movement and therefore ANY chance of saving the country. The adults were able recognize that there was NO savior on the ticket.
But that's not the problem now is it? The problem is that you are not capable of recognizing your folly and that you must silence any who have a different opinion than yours. Thanks to Trump and all of you who wish to silence any who disagree with you, there will not be a conservative president for 20years...although I don't believe the Republic won't stand that long!
THATS why we're pissed you fool! You're worried about rearranging the deck chairs and telling Capt Smith to speed up. We already recognize the hull has been breached!
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You fool! I despise the Republican Party...they are less than worthless. I welcome the day the feckless tools are replaced by somethjng conservative.
The fools are the people that can't seem to comprehend that the Republican Party of today MUST be destroyed in order for it to be replaced.
Anyone you know or see in the mirror fit that bill?
The adults were able to recognize that Trump was going to destroy the conservative movement and therefore ANY chance of saving the country.
WHAT "conservative movment"?
The adults were able recognize that there was NO savior on the ticket.
Damn shame you weren't one of them.
But that's not the problem now is it? The problem is that you are not capable of recognizing your folly and that you must silence any who have a different opinion than yours.
I hope you were speaking into a mirror when saying that because it describes no one more accurately than you.
Thanks to Trump and all of you who wish to silence any who disagree with you, there will not be a conservative president for 20years...although I don't believe the Republic won't stand that long!
You really are a world-class blind fool,ain't ya,cupcake?
THATS why we're pissed you fool! You're worried about rearranging the deck chairs and telling Capt Smith to speed up. We already recognize the hull has been breached!
You aren't perceptive enough to notice if your nose were on fire.
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@sneakypete
Um...you're the one trying to silence dissent, cupcake.
Might ought to look in your own damn mirror before you cast aspersions.
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Your Monkey owes me a Keyboard @Wingnut
@corbe
Don't take any checks from him. Just say'n!
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Ain't gonna happen. Give it up.