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Title: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 11, 2014, 11:21:29 pm
http://thehill.com/regulation/administration/214879-holder-opens-federal-probe-of-slain-teen (http://thehill.com/regulation/administration/214879-holder-opens-federal-probe-of-slain-teen)

Holder opens federal probe of slain teen

By Benjamin Goad - 08/11/14 05:08 PM EDT

The Justice Department has launched a federal investigation into the fatal police shooting of an unarmed black teenager in a St. Louis suburb over the weekend, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Monday.

The DOJ’s Civil Rights Division will participate in the probe, along with FBI agents from the St. Louis field office and the U.S. Attorney's Office, Holder said.

“The shooting incident in Ferguson, Missouri, this weekend deserves a fulsome review,” Holder said.

“At every step, we will work with the local investigators, who should be prepared to complete a thorough, fair investigation in their own right. I will continue to receive regular updates on this matter in the coming days.”

Michael Brown, 18, was not carrying a weapon at the time of the shooting but allegedly attacked a police officer.

The shooting sparked questions of racial bias and touched off violent protests in the St. Louis area, reportedly leading to looting and more than 30 arressts on charges ranging from theft and burglary to assault.

Authorities said two officers sustained some injuries in the protests.

The federal probe opens the door to potential civil rights charges ahainst the yet unnamed officer.

Holder's announcement follows calls for a thorough review of the shooting from members of Congress, including Sens. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.).

“Everyone deserves a transparent understanding of what happened here," said Blunt.

This story was updated at 5:40 p.m.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 11, 2014, 11:24:32 pm
What about a federal probe of the IRS, Benghazi cover-up, Operation Fast and Furious......./s
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: truth_seeker on August 11, 2014, 11:59:55 pm
What about a federal probe of the civilian, choked to death by police on Staten Island a few weeks ago?

How about a federal probe of who instigates the looters?
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 12, 2014, 12:00:32 am
Why not, it's not like he has anything else to do.   :thud:
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 12, 2014, 12:33:07 am
Shooting an unarmed man requires as many investigations as is needed to get clear on what happened.  I have read so many stories--too many--in recent months of cops, out of control, shooting dogs in fenced back yards and of no threat to the LEO.  It surprises me not at all that a cop would shoot a man with no weapon THIRTY-FIVE FEET away from him, not once, but several times.

Blacks always sabotage whatever they try to do with their stupidity (rioting), but that should not obscure the fact that this officer likely murdered this young man.  Overly-militarized police departments today are in an us-vs.-them mode.  They are seriously out of control and are generating resentment in the communities they serve. What angers so many is that they seem to ALWAYS get off, protected by that "blue wall". 

Growing numbers of people are getting tired of this and it's just a matter of time until cops no longer have the support of their constituents.

They only have themselves to blame.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Atomic Cow on August 12, 2014, 12:53:18 am
Yes sink we know, you hate cops.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 12, 2014, 12:59:22 am
Yes sink we know, you hate cops.

Your glibness aside, there is little doubt that police departments, with their no-knock SWAT raids, are killing and maiming at an alarming rate. You can look up the statistics. 

And all of this militarization leads LEOs to want to use all this equipment, often in situations that don't warrant it.

I have two nephews who are former cops, leaving their forces because of the quality of people hired and retained.  You are naive if you think your local force resembles in any way the force you grew up with.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: truth_seeker on August 12, 2014, 01:05:30 am
Shooting an unarmed man requires as many investigations as is needed to get clear on what happened.  I have read so many stories--too many--in recent months of cops, out of control, shooting dogs in fenced back yards and of no threat to the LEO.  It surprises me not at all that a cop would shoot a man with no weapon THIRTY-FIVE FEET away from him, not once, but several times.

Blacks always sabotage whatever they try to do with their stupidity (rioting), but that should not obscure the fact that this officer likely murdered this young man.  Overly-militarized police departments today are in an us-vs.-them mode.  They are seriously out of control and are generating resentment in the communities they serve. What angers so many is that they seem to ALWAYS get off, protected by that "blue wall". 

Growing numbers of people are getting tired of this and it's just a matter of time until cops no longer have the support of their constituents.

They only have themselves to blame.
I think they have elevated the absolute safety of officers to an unreasonable level.

In my area police officers retire at an early age, with very good retirement pay and benefits. Like they effectively get "hazardous duty pay."

In case after case the bad guy twitches, giving the police justification to kill him/her. Then we find they had no weapon.

In my low crime suburban area, several such incidents have occurred.

--A teenage girl with a knife at a Huntington Beach schoolyard. Shot dead by multiple officers, when she supposedly lunged.
--A mentally ill homeless man in Fullerton California beat to death by multiple officers.
--Teen in Anaheim barrio, shot by officers. He had no weapon.
and
--The cigarette vendor in Staten Island NY, choked to death by multiple officers a few days ago.

In each instance, the continued violence by police towards the suspect, was to counter continued "danger" to officers' safety.

I think a new improved paradigm needs to get created for police. Non-lethal measures, when possible. In each case above, the suspect posed little or no threat to officers' safety.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 12, 2014, 01:16:13 am
Twitter is loaded right now, on #Ferguson, with images of SWATted up cops, in riot gear, with rifles drawn, parading down the street.  In others, we see officers with German Shepherds, snarling and lunging.

Do these departments not know that all of this is viral, that every image is published, and that images of cops with dogs and tear gas bring back images from years ago? 

Who shoots a man, then, when the man puts his hands in the air, shoots him four more times? 
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Carling on August 12, 2014, 01:24:08 am
Your glibness aside, there is little doubt that police departments, with their no-knock SWAT raids, are killing and maiming at an alarming rate. You can look up the statistics. 

And all of this militarization leads LEOs to want to use all this equipment, often in situations that don't warrant it.

I have two nephews who are former cops, leaving their forces because of the quality of people hired and retained.  You are naive if you think your local force resembles in any way the force you grew up with.

I'm not sure you know what glib means.   :silly:
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 12, 2014, 01:45:17 am
I'm not sure you know what glib means.   :silly:

"insincere and shallow" describes the post in question perfectly.

Look it up.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Charlespg on August 12, 2014, 02:15:41 am
Yes sink we know, you hate cops.
He's right .It's gotten to the point I trust cops only slightly more then the gangbangers and criminals 
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Carling on August 12, 2014, 02:17:37 am
"insincere and shallow" describes the post in question perfectly.

Look it up.

Um, that's a part of the definition, so yes, you got that part right.  The rest of it, not at all.

Proceed with your cop bashing, though.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 12, 2014, 02:20:48 am
Believe me, I will.  When two young men leave police work because they, themselves, are afraid of some of the officers they work with, we all ought to be afraid.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 02:34:58 am
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/massive-brawl-shuts-down-st-louis-galleria-mall-on-lockdown/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/massive-brawl-shuts-down-st-louis-galleria-mall-on-lockdown/)

MASSIVE BRAWL Shuts Down St. Louis Galleria …Update: Cops Teargas Ferguson Rioters …Update: Rioters Chuck Bricks on Interstate 270
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, August 11, 2014, 7:12 PM

MASSIVE BRAWL BREAKS OUT AT ST. LOUIS GALLERIA–
There are reports of “multiple incidents” at the mall.

(http://4-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/xferguson-protest-news-commenter.jpg.pagespeed.ic.mnk5y21OSL.jpg)

Protesters at the Ferguson, Missouri rally Monday. (The News Commenter)

Last night several businesses in Ferguson, Dellwood and North County were looted and torched following the death of 18 year-old Michael Brown.

The Galleria recently set a curfew on teens in the mall without adult supervision to cut down on theft and violence.

    I’m at the St. Louis Galleria and it’s all closed due to fears of rioting here. We can’t be dominated by fear. #stl pic.twitter.com/yxcykRbOhy

    — Tracy James (@catgirl1967) August 12, 2014

The fight started on the second story of the mall.


continued..
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 02:36:50 am
Love the Galleria..I have shopped there many times....mostly high-end stores....no idea why the mobs have moved downtown and have targeted the Galleria...
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Carling on August 12, 2014, 02:43:03 am
Love the Galleria..I have shopped there many times....mostly high-end stores....no idea why the mobs have moved downtown and have targeted the Galleria...

Because that's where rich white people own stores, and where rich white people shop.  This isn't an accident that they ended up there.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Atomic Cow on August 12, 2014, 03:02:30 am
More Sons of Obama
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: truth_seeker on August 12, 2014, 04:15:30 am
Remember the armed Korean shop owners in Lost Angeles, when the Rodney King verdict set off days of looting and burning?

A lot of business for contractors, in the aftermath. Very big shopping center contract for my brother, who was the white contractor from Orange County (featured on ABC news).

Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mrclose on August 12, 2014, 05:34:00 am
Gee look .. Free 'stuff' and 'Kill Whitey' time again!  :beer:


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If you gon @ least loot, go to the white people neighborhood— #Struggle (@illmatic_kid) August 11, 2014


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Words from mentor. If you're going to riot and loot, at least take it to the rich white folk neighborhood.


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*****s in St. Louis need to go to the white people's area and start looting— Groovy (@Hii__PoWeR) August 11, 2014


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f you're gonna riot and kill people at least kill WHITE people. Why attack your own people?— H. Don Datta (@HollowDaGatMan) August 11, 2014


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I simply wish black folk would riot white neighborhoods. Don't tear our shyt up. Go to where the police live. Makes more sense to me.— PoΣtic Just1c3 (@Weeeeerkaholic) August 11, 2014


http://twitchy.com/2014/08/11/loot-and-rob-them-not-your-own-twitter-users-advise-black-people-to-loot-white-neighborhoods/]‘Loot … and rob them, not your own'; Twitter users advise black people to loot white neighborhoods | Twitchy
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: alicewonders on August 12, 2014, 05:52:25 am
It's just "patriotic" looting - it's only fair that the rich white folks pay their share. 
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: rangerrebew on August 12, 2014, 10:05:13 am
Holder opens federal probe of slain teen
 
By Benjamin Goad - 08/11/14 05:08 PM EDT
 
The Justice Department has launched a federal investigation into the fatal police shooting of an unarmed black teenager in a St. Louis suburb over the weekend, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Monday.

The DOJ’s Civil Rights Division will participate in the probe, along with FBI agents from the St. Louis field office and the U.S. Attorney's Office, Holder said.
 
“The shooting incident in Ferguson, Missouri, this weekend deserves a fulsome review,” Holder said.

“At every step, we will work with the local investigators, who should be prepared to complete a thorough, fair investigation in their own right. I will continue to receive regular updates on this matter in the coming days.”

Michael Brown, 18, was not carrying a weapon at the time of the shooting but allegedly attacked a police officer.

The shooting sparked questions of racial bias and touched off violent protests in the St. Louis area, reportedly leading to looting and more than 30 arrests on charges ranging from theft and burglary to assault.

Authorities said two officers sustained some injuries in the protests.

The federal probe opens the door to potential civil rights charges against the yet unnamed officer.

Holder's announcement follows calls for a thorough review of the shooting from members of Congress, including Sens. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.).

“Everyone deserves a transparent understanding of what happened here," said Blunt.

This story was updated at 5:40 p.m.

 
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Read more: http://thehill.com/regulation/administration/214879-holder-opens-federal-probe-of-slain-teen#ixzz3AAeR3Kzw
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Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 12, 2014, 11:22:48 am
Is this the galleria near Clayton - nowhere near Ferguson?
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 12, 2014, 11:25:53 am
I guess the folks in Chesterfield and Ladue better arm themselves.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: aligncare on August 12, 2014, 12:35:59 pm
Well, um, you know, like, they got a grievance. No Justice - no peace. No peace - more free stuff for me.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: aligncare on August 12, 2014, 12:39:46 pm
I wonder if that Angry Fellow knows that there have been cases where a black cop has shot and killed an unarmed white teen?
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Charlespg on August 12, 2014, 12:43:47 pm
Believe me, I will.  When two young men leave police work because they, themselves, are afraid of some of the officers they work with, we all ought to be afraid.
:amen:
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: GourmetDan on August 12, 2014, 12:55:50 pm


I see dead people...


Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: aligncare on August 12, 2014, 01:07:00 pm
I'm with sink. They're out of control--everywhere. I don't think a minor infraction like selling cigarettes and resisting arrest should get you a death sentence.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 01:43:58 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/12/After-Rioting-Al-Sharpton-Boards-Plane-For-St-Louis (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/12/After-Rioting-Al-Sharpton-Boards-Plane-For-St-Louis)

 by Charlie Spiering 12 Aug 2014, 6:02 AM PDT

Al Sharpton has boarded a plane for St. Louis following rioting and looting that broke out in the city as mobs protested the death of Michael Brown. Brown is the 18-year-old African American male who was shot and killed by police.

Early Tuesday morning, Sharpton wrote on Twitter:

    On the flight headed to St. Louis to meet w/ the parents of Michael Brown, the unarmed 18 year old killed by police. Must fight w/ dignity
    — Reverend Al Sharpton (@TheRevAl) August 12, 2014


Police in riot gear fired tear gas and bean bag rounds to quell crowds of protesters on Monday night, arresting at least five people.

Sharpton was quick to react to the tragedy after speaking with the family in the wake of the incident, vowing that his National Action Network would respond.

“I just spoke with Leslie McSpadden, the grandfather of Michael Brown. He has asked me to come to St. Louis in light of the police killing of his grandson to assist the family in achieving a fair investigation and justice," he posted on his website. "I assured him that National Action Network will stand with the family, as we have done for families around the country and assist in any way that we can."
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 01:51:49 pm
Is this the galleria near Clayton - nowhere near Ferguson?

Yes......my sister is a Chanel Rep and the Galleria is in the area she represents...
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Relic on August 12, 2014, 01:57:38 pm
They jus be wylin.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 02:03:06 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/12/st-louis-cops-use-beanbag-rounds-after-reports-protesters-throwing-rocks/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29 (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/12/st-louis-cops-use-beanbag-rounds-after-reports-protesters-throwing-rocks/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29)

St. Louis cops use ‘beanbag rounds’ after reports of protesters throwing rocks
Published August 12, 2014
FoxNews.com


FERGUSON, Mo. –  Police in riot gear fired tear gas into a crowd of protesters in a St. Louis suburb where an unarmed black teenager had been fatally shot by police over the weekend, as tension rose even amid calls for collective calm.

Between two nights of unrest, a community forum hosted by the local NAACP chapter Monday night drew hundreds to a sweltering church in Ferguson, the nearly 70 percent black St. Louis County suburb where an unarmed 18-year-old, Michael Brown, was shot multiple times by a police officer.

Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said a large crowd that gathered throughout Monday at the site of a burned-out convenience store turned rowdy at nightfall, throwing rocks at police. Officers used tear gas and shot "beanbag rounds" meant to stun them, he said.

Fox2Now.com reported that one person was taken to the hospital for injuries sustained from a rubber bullet. Photographs from the scene showed police wearing helmets and dressed like SWAT teams.

St. Louis County police spokesman Brian Schellman said there were at least five arrests and no reports of looting. Nearly three dozen people were arrested following a candlelight vigil Sunday night when crowds burned stores, vandalized vehicles, assaulted reporters and taunted officers.

"People are tired. They have reached the end of their rope," said Ruth Latchison Nichols after the NAACP forum, where many more were left waiting outside once the pews reached capacity. "Enough is enough. This is a state of emergency."

National NAACP President Cornell William Brooks implored residents to "turn your anger into action" while condemning the violent response to Brown's death.

"To sneak around under the cover of darkness, to steal, to loot, to burn down your neighborhood -- this does not require courage," he said. "Courage is when you strive for justice."

"Martin Luther King did not live and die so that we may steal and lie in the middle of the night," he added.

The FBI has opened an investigation into Brown's death, looking into possible civil rights violations. Witnesses have said that Brown had his hands raised when the unidentified officer approached with his weapon drawn and fired repeatedly.

Brown's parents have been among those calling for calm. His family, who had planned to drop him off at a technical college Monday to begin his studies, have asked people to share any information and videos they might have related to the shooting.

Authorities have been vague about what led the officer to open fire, saying only that the shooting -- which is being investigated by the St. Louis County police at the smaller city's request -- was preceded by a scuffle of some kind with a man in which the officer's weapon discharged once inside a patrol car.

Investigators have refused to publicly disclose the race of the officer, who is now on administrative leave. But Phillip Walker said he was on the porch of an apartment complex overlooking the scene when he heard a shot and saw a white officer with Brown on the street.

Brown "was giving up in the sense of raising his arms and being subdued," Walker told The Associated Press. The officer "had his gun raised and started shooting the individual in the chest multiple times." The officer then "stood over him and shot him" after the victim fell wounded.

Dorian Johnson offered a similar account, telling KMOV-TV that he and Brown were walking home from a convenience store when a police officer told them to get out of the street and onto the sidewalk. Johnson said they kept walking, which caused the officer to confront them from his car and again after getting out of the vehicle.

Johnson said the first time the officer fired, he and Brown got scared and ran away.

"He shot again, and once my friend felt that shot, he turned around and put his hands in the air, and he started to get down," Johnson said. "But the officer still approached with his weapon drawn and fired several more shots."

"We wasn't causing harm to nobody," Johnson said. "We had no weapons on us at all."

Walker said that he did not see a scuffle or the circumstances that preceded the first gunshot.

Jackson, the Ferguson police chief, said there's no video footage of the shooting from the apartment complex or from any police dashboard cameras or body-worn cameras that the department recently bought but has not yet put to use.

Some civil rights leaders have drawn comparisons between Brown's death and that of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was fatally shot by a Florida neighborhood watch organizer who was later acquitted of murder charges.

"Instead of celebrating his future, they are having to plan his funeral," said Benjamin Crump, a family attorney who also represented Martin's relatives after he was slain in 2012 in Florida.

"I don't want to sugarcoat it," Crump added. Brown "was executed in broad daylight."
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: olde north church on August 12, 2014, 02:29:38 pm
Drop 2 or 3 and they'll get the message.  Loud and eff'in clear.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: GourmetDan on August 12, 2014, 02:43:54 pm

Carrying a can of gasoline...


Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Relic on August 12, 2014, 02:46:13 pm
Carrying a can of gasoline...

It's what community organizers do.

And we elected one as president.

We are a very stupid people, and deserve what we are getting.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: evadR on August 12, 2014, 03:07:59 pm
Predictable...where's his partner in crime, Jesse?
And when will Obama do the "if I had a son" routine?
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: DCPatriot on August 12, 2014, 03:19:57 pm
Drop 2 or 3 and they'll get the message.  ...

2 or 3 dozen, perhaps.....
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 12, 2014, 04:10:09 pm
Yes......my sister is a Chanel Rep and the Galleria is in the area she represents...
I used to live very near the Galleria (both in Clayton and Richmond Heights). So those Ferguson thugs are doin' some traveling'!
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 04:12:47 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/11/5-Race-Riots-in-Obamas-Post-Racial-America (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/11/5-Race-Riots-in-Obamas-Post-Racial-America)

by Ben Shapiro 11 Aug 2014

Riots and looting in Ferguson, Missouri, over the shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by a police officer represent just the latest spate of race-based mass violence to break out in President Obama’s post-racial America. When Obama was elected in 2008, many Americans hoped that racial conflict in the country would calm. Instead, precisely the reverse seems to have occurred.

Not all riots across the country have been racial in nature, of course. Occupy Wall Street participated in riots repeatedly in 2011, and May Day protesters rioted in Santa Cruz in 2010 and Seattle in 2013, for example. There have also been repeated riots on college campuses over incidents ranging from sporting events to frat parties.

But with every controversial police shooting of a minority victim, the possibility of riots looms these days. That’s been true since well before President Obama took office, thanks to a racial grievance industry based on the tacit threat of violence. But President Obama has done little to tamp down that industry and much to energize it.

Aside from the current violence in Missouri, here are the worst mass racial violence incidents of the past few years:

Oscar Grant Riots. In 2009, shortly after President Obama’s election, police officer Johannes Mehserle shot black transit passenger Oscar Grant in Oakland, California. While Mehserle was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in 2010, rioters took advantage of the situation anyway, trashing police cars and forcing Mayor Ron Dellums to take shelter in City Hall. Local businesses were vandalized. In the end, some 120 arrests were made. That violence was not the first surrounding Grant’s killing – right after Grant’s killing, rioters engaged in vandalism, as well as attacks on a police officer. Grant’s mother told the media, “I am begging the citizens not to use violent tactics, not to be angry. I know it’s a very frustrating time, but Oscar would not want to see all the violence that’s going on. He would not want to see the fires, he would not want to see this. You’re hurting people who have nothing to do with the situation.”

Trayvon Martin Violence. After George Zimmerman was acquitted of murder in his shooting of black teenager Trayvon Martin, local rioters in Los Angeles began “stomping cars and breaking windows.” A television reporter and cameraman were assaulted by a crowd of criminals. Looters attempted to break into a local Walmart. About 150 criminals took part in the riot. In San Bernardino, eleven protesters were arrested after throwing bricks at passing cars. A white man was robbed by three black men in Washington, D.C., and was allegedly told by his assailants, “This is for Trayvon Martin.” In Baltimore, a Hispanic man was allegedly chased by a mob of black youths shouting, “This is for Trayvon.” President Obama said regarding Trayvon Martin during the ongoing investigation, “My main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon.” Obama’s Department of Justice even headed to Sanford, Florida, to pursue an investigation against Zimmerman.

Manuel Diaz Violence. After 25-year-old suspected gang member Manuel Diaz ran from police and was shot to death in 2012, local residents began throwing objects at police officers. Soon, that situation escalated, with the Orange County Register reporting, “At least five people were reported hurt in the unrest, with crowds setting fires, smashing windows and throwing rocks and other projectiles at officers in riot gear who fired non-lethal rounds at demonstrators refusing to disperse.”

Kimini Gray Riots. When 16-year-old Kimani Gray was killed by police after allegedly pointing a handgun at them, riots broke out in Brooklyn in 2013. A crowd of 200 people, according to the New York Daily News, left a vigil site chanting, “NYPD, KKK, how many kids did you kill today.” Then things really went wrong: “things quickly got out of hand as some protesters tried to climb on police motorcycles. Men and women were pepper-sprayed and thrown to the ground and handcuffed.” That incident followed a similar vigil gone wrong the night before, when according to the NYPD, “a large, disorderly group [began] throwing bottles at police.” The crowd in that incident trashed a Rite Aid and robbed the store. Storefronts were also smashed.

These are incidents of mass violence, not merely individual crime incidents. And such incidents are testimony to the continuing sense of racial injustice purveyed by the media and the Obama administration.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: olde north church on August 12, 2014, 04:26:07 pm
2 or 3 dozen, perhaps.....

You want to make an omelet ...
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 07:27:03 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-faa-issues-flight-warning-over-ferguson-missouri-effective-immediately/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-faa-issues-flight-warning-over-ferguson-missouri-effective-immediately/)

BREAKING: FAA Issues Flight Warning Over FERGUSON, MO – Effective Immediately
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 1:19 PM

 
BREAKING ALERT—–

FAA WARNING –

Airspace restriction over Ferguson, Missouri–
All commercial pilots in the country are getting this notice.
Notice to Airmen: Airspace restriction over Ferguson.

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FYI: Ferguson, Missouri is located right next to Lambert International Airport in St. Louis, Missouri.

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A local commercial pilot and former military aviator informed The Gateway Pundit that there is a no fly zone and this is extremely uncommon.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Relic on August 12, 2014, 07:27:56 pm
The locals have acquired SAMs?
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 07:28:03 pm
Maybe Obama is coming to town...either that or the hoodlums have rocket launchers....
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Chieftain on August 12, 2014, 07:34:41 pm
Maybe Obama is coming to town...either that or the hoodlums have rocket launchers....

This is SOP when you have civilian airspace that police helicopters need to operate over.  This directly prevents some TV station chopper, or private airplane rubber-necker from interfering with police aircraft. 

Considering the violence and duration of these riots so far I am not surprised that law enforcement is doing this.  I would be more surprised if they did not.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 12, 2014, 07:44:03 pm
No worries, the Ferguson mob has headed for the whiter parts of town (west St. Louis County, Ladue, Des Peres, Town and Country, etc.).
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 07:48:35 pm
This is SOP when you have civilian airspace that police helicopters need to operate over.  This directly prevents some TV station chopper, or private airplane rubber-necker from interfering with police aircraft. 

Considering the violence and duration of these riots so far I am not surprised that law enforcement is doing this.  I would be more surprised if they did not.

Thanks Chief...didn't think of that..
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 07:56:43 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/12/Al-Sharpton-In-Missouri-We-Did-Not-Come-to-Divide-The-City (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/12/Al-Sharpton-In-Missouri-We-Did-Not-Come-to-Divide-The-City)

 by Charlie Spiering 12 Aug 2014, 12:37 PM PDT

MSNBC host and president of the National Action Network Rev. Al Sharpton held a press conference after meeting with the parents of Michael Brown, an African-American teenager that was shot by a police officer in a St. Louis suburb.

Poised squarely before the cameras, Sharpton demanded justice for the Brown family.

“This is not a cause for them; this is their child. This is not some prop for politics; this is their child,” he said, referring to the parents.

Sharpton also criticized members of the community who used the tragedy to exhibit violence.

“To become violent in Michael Brown’s name is to betray the gentle giant that he was,” Sharpton said, reminding listeners that Brown was an “unarmed gentleman.”

“Don’t be so angry that you distort the image of who his mother and father told us he was,” he said.

Sharpton called for the federal government to take over the investigation of the case, criticizing the local police department for not releasing the name of the officer involved in the shooting.

“We did not come to divide this city; we came to bring this city on one accord,” Sharpton said. “But one accord means that we have equal protection under the law.”

Sharpton criticized those who wanted to silence him and the rest of the community.

“There are those who are saying ‘peace,’ but they really just mean ‘quiet’… we want real peace; we don’t want to just be told to shut up and suffer in silence,” he said.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Charlespg on August 12, 2014, 08:19:16 pm
Carrying a can of gasoline...
Still don't trust the official story,but looters and fire starters should get a 308 lobotomy 
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 12, 2014, 08:29:51 pm
St. Louis Post-Dispatch (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/protesters-in-clayton-to-ask-for-justice-in-michael-brown/article_6060a563-d7d1-544a-8bb3-793c46be427c.html):
Quote
Sharpton says Michael Brown's family deserves justice and the facts

The Rev. Al Sharpton, clergy and the family of Michael Brown urged for peace, prayer and a continued push for justice for Michael Brown during a 20-minute press conference in front of the Old Courthouse in downtown St. Louis.

Sharpton, the family, their attorney and clergy walked arm-and-arm across Broadway prior to the start of the event. About 50 people and twice as many reporters calmly waited outside the courthouse prior to the start.

Sharpton and others who spoke urged supporters to attend a 7 p.m. gathering at Greater St. Mark Missionary Baptist Church, located on Glen Owen Drive about a half-mile from where Brown, 18, was shot and killed by an unnamed Ferguson police officer. Witnesses say the young man was unarmed and shot multiple times.

The event is scheduled at the same time Ferguson Mayor James Knowles and Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson are scheduled to attend another gathering at Christ the King United Church of Christ on Old Halls Ferry Road.

Sharpton said Brown was killed while showing an arms-in-the-air surrender sign to the police officer.

"That's the sign you got to deal with," Sharpton said. "Deal with the last sign he had shown. We want answers why that sign was not respected."

Sharpton said he did not come to St. Louis to stir up further controversy but to aid the family in finding out the facts and gaining justice for Brown.

"I know you are angry," he told the group. "I know this is outrageous. When I saw that picture (of Brown lifeless on the ground), it rose up in me in outrage. But we cannot be more outraged than his mom and dad. If they can hold their heads in dignity, then we can hold our heads up in dignity."

Baltimore-based pastor Jamal Bryant later spoke of Brown's death as a national civil rights issue.

"St. Louis is in fact bearing witness for America," he said. "The Band-Aid has been ripped off, and all of America is seeing the open wound of racism exists."

Bryant asked people to pray daily at 6 a.m., noon and 6 p.m. until Brown's family gets justice. He also urged people to conduct a fast tomorrow to show "that we are in fact hungry for justice."
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 12, 2014, 08:33:44 pm
So what happened?
Quote
There were at least two versions of the encounter that led to a police officer fatally shooting an unarmed Ferguson teenager on Saturday: one from a young man named Dorian Johnson who told reporters he had been walking with the victim, Michael Brown, and the second from St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar.

The versions agree on some basic facts: The officer approached the teens, who were walking in the street, there was an altercation in or near the car, and the officer fired several shots at the unarmed Brown, who was then several yards away, killing him.

In Johnson’s version, the officer reached out of the car to grab Brown by the throat. In Belmar’s version, which cited his department’s investigation, Brown reached into the car to attack the officer, and struggled to grab his weapon.

DORIAN JOHNSON'S VERSION:

“Me and my friend was walking down the street in the middle of the street. And we wasn’t causing any harm to nobody. We had no weapons on us at all. … A police officer squad car pulled up and when he pulled up these were his exact words: ‘Get the F on the sidewalk.’ … He reversed his … car in a manner to where it almost hit us. … He tried to brush his door open but he was so close to us that it ricocheted off us and it bounced back to him, and I guess that, you know, got him a little upset. And at that time ... he didn’t get out the car, he just reached his arm out the window and grabbed my friend around his neck and … as he was trying to choke my friend, he was trying to get away, and the officer then reached out and he grabbed his arm to pull him into the car. … His weapon was drawn and he said, ‘I’ll shoot you’ or ‘I’m going to shoot,’ and in the same moment the first shot went off. And we looked at him, he was shot, and there was blood coming from him, and we took off running, and as we took off running, I ducked and hid for my life because I was afraid for my life … . My friend kept running and he told me to keep running because he feared for me, too. So, as he was running, the officer was trying to get out of the car and once he got out the car he pursued my friend, but his weapon was drawn. Now, he didn’t see any weapon drawn at him or anything like that. I was going for no weapon. His weapon was already drawn when he got out the car. He shot again and once my friend felt that shot, he turned around and put his hands in the air and he started to get down but the officer still approached with his weapon drawn and he fired several more shots, and my friend died. He didn’t say anything to him, he just stood over and was shooting.”

CHIEF JON BELMAR'S VERSION:

“Yesterday about noon in the 2900 block of Canfield, a Ferguson police officer had an encounter with two individuals on the street. In fact, one of those individuals … allegedly pushed the police officer back into the car where he physically assaulted the police officer. It is our understanding at this point in the investigation that within the police car there was a struggle over the officer’s weapon. There was at least one shot fired within the car. After that the officer went back, came back out of the car, he exited his vehicle, and there was a shooting that occurred where the officer in fact shot the subject, and … they were fatal injuries. The entire scene from approximately the car door to the shooting is about 35 feet. There were shell casings recovered, the shell casings are all matched to one weapon, that’s the officer’s weapon. There were more than a few shell casings recovered. I cannot say at this time how many times the subject was struck by gunfire. It’s hard to know, it was more than just a couple but I don’t think it was many more than that.”
St. Louis Post-Dispatch (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/different-versions-of-the-encounter-that-led-to-a-fatal/article_29f84765-24f3-53bb-8ca3-77f780f79d8f.html). Lucky for Mr. Johnson (or the school district that allegedly taught him) bad grammar isn't a crime.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 12, 2014, 08:35:15 pm
News photographer attacked by mob (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/attacked-on-the-job-a-post-dispatch-photographer-s-tale/article_1b6fba60-5ac1-592a-8818-19614f1910aa.html).
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 12, 2014, 08:44:37 pm
I'm beginning to wonder if the cop was a female.  Even the chief says that the shooting took place when Brown was 35 feet from the officer's car. 

An incident in Dallas last year involved an unarmed black man as a passenger in a car.  Car was stopped by female officer.  Driver ran away, but cop came over to open driver's side door. Witness said the passenger's hands were in the air, but cop said he was "reaching" for something and she shot him before she saw the "something."  It was determined he wasn't, in fact, reaching, and that she overreacted.  She was fired three months after the incident.

It's amazing to me that a rational cop would fire seven times at an unarmed person who was moving away from him/her.  This looks very bad for the police department, especially since they're not IDing the officer.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 08:53:48 pm
I'm beginning to wonder if the cop was a female.  Even the chief says that the shooting took place when Brown was 35 feet from the officer's car. 

An incident in Dallas last year involved an unarmed black man as a passenger in a car.  Car was stopped by female officer.  Driver ran away, but cop came over to open driver's side door. Witness said the passenger's hands were in the air, but cop said he was "reaching" for something and she shot him before she saw the "something."  It was determined he wasn't, in fact, reaching, and that she overreacted.  She was fired three months after the incident.

It's amazing to me that a rational cop would fire seven times at an unarmed person who was moving away from him/her.  This looks very bad for the police department, especially since they're not IDing the officer.

Rumor is in the area that the cop was black.....remember that is a rumor...
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 08:57:50 pm
http://fox2now.com/2014/08/12/mugshots-of-ferguson-looters-released-to-the-public/ (http://fox2now.com/2014/08/12/mugshots-of-ferguson-looters-released-to-the-public/)
Mugshots of Ferguson looters released to the public
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: truth_seeker on August 12, 2014, 09:03:59 pm
No worries, the Ferguson mob has headed for the whiter parts of town (west St. Louis County, Ladue, Des Peres, Town and Country, etc.).
What is a resident to do? Say you do NOT have a concealed carry permit, but this shite is going on near your white, upper middle class area, nonetheless.

Do you violate the law, and take that handgun with you, when you go out?

I remember 1992, Rodney King riots. I used to go on long bicycle rides, occasionally through Long Beach Calif.

Long Beach is the 2nd largest city in Lost Angeles County, and is adjacent to some bad areas on the north and west. And in fact it has some bad areas.

My long ride took me into or alongside those bad areas, but it had never crossed my mind it could become a riot zone. Approximately Pacific Coast Highway (PCH) and Atlantic Blvd.

Well, I did not ride into the middle of a riot. But months later I happened to drive the same route, as my bike route, and learned that indeed, the area had rioting. Burned buildings, etc.

Long Beach is well known locally for the close proximity of luxury neighborhoods, and ghettos/barrios.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 09:05:39 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/report-all-arrested-ferguson-looters-were-from-outside-of-ferguson-and-had-criminal-records/?PageSpeed=noscript (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/report-all-arrested-ferguson-looters-were-from-outside-of-ferguson-and-had-criminal-records/?PageSpeed=noscript)
Report: All Arrested Ferguson Looters Were From Outside of Ferguson… And Had Criminal Records
Title: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 10:33:30 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/214979-obama-brown-death-heartbreaking (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/214979-obama-brown-death-heartbreaking)

Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'

By Ian Swanson and Justin Sink - 08/12/14 04:40 PM EDT

President Obama called for “reflection and understanding” after the “heartbreaking” killing of an unarmed black 18-year old shot to death by police in the town of Ferguson, Mo. over the weekend.

In his first comments about a killing that has triggered riots in the St. Louis suburb, Obama acknowledged that the shooting of Michael Brown has “prompted strong passions,” and urged people to have a discussion “in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds.”

“Along with our prayers, that’s what Michael and his family, and our broader American community, deserve,” Obama said in a statement issued while he vacationed in Martha's Vineyard.

The president's comments came after protestors and riot police clashed late Monday night in an area just blocks from the site of the shooting. Police officers shot tear gas and rubber bullets into a crowd of demonstrators who refused to disperse, according to multiple media reports.

Over the weekend, violent protests and looting stemming from the death led to more than 30 arrests on charges ranging from assault to burglary.

The president noted that the Department of Justice is investigating the shooting, and said the federal government would “continue to direct resources to the case as needed.”

On Monday, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division would probe the fatal shooting, saying the incident “deserves a fulsome review.”

“At every step, we will work with the local investigators, who should be prepared to complete a thorough, fair investigation in their own right,” Holder said. “I will continue to receive regular updates on this matter in the coming days.”

Witnesses have offered conflicting accounts of Brown's killing. Police say the 18-year-old physically assaulted a police officer who confronted him, and attempted to take the officer’s weapon. But a friend of Brown has told reporters that the officer shot the teenager after they ignored his command to get off the sidewalk.

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus have called on the Justice Department to expand its investigation into the Brown shooting, asking the government to look for “any pattern or practice of police misconduct by the Ferguson Police Department.”

The lawmakers, including Congressional Black Caucus chairwoman Martha Fudge (D-Ohio), Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) and Lacy Clay (D-Mo.) said there was “evidence of racial profiling by that department in the recent past” and that only the federal government had the resources and experience to “give this case the close scrutiny” it deserved.

Sens. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) have also called for a more through investigation by the federal government.

The president’s statement came just over a year after he discussed race relations in the country shortly after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty of killing 17-year-old Trayvon Matin. Obama said he'd been a victim or racial profiling and understood black Americans outraged by the verdict.

“When Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son,” Obama said. “Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.”

Obama said that there were “very few African American men” who hadn't experienced prejudice and urged those who did not understand to view the frustration “in a historical context.” The president also noted “a history of racial disparity in the application of our criminal laws."

Earlier this year, Obama announced the White House had obtained more than $200 million in philanthropic commitments targets toward young men of color as part of his “My Brother's Keeper” initiative. At the time, Obama said the program was launched partially in response to the “emotions and controversy” sparked by the Zimmerman verdict.

“These boys are a growing segment of our population,” Obama said. “They are our future workforce. When, generation after generation, they lag behind, our economy suffers. Our family structure suffers.  Our civic life suffers.  Cycles of hopelessness breed violence and mistrust.  And our country is a little less than what we know it can be.”

This story was updated at 5:17 p.m.
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 10:35:03 pm
http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/12/michael-browns-familys-lawyer-responds-to-obamas-comments-on-shooting/ (http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/12/michael-browns-familys-lawyer-responds-to-obamas-comments-on-shooting/)

Michael Brown's family's lawyer responds to Obama's comments on shooting

(CNN) – The shooting death of an unarmed teenager has sowed seeds of anger and
 mistrust in the town of Ferguson, Missouri. As if to further illustrate just how tense things have gotten in that small community, police revealed Tuesday they will no longer reveal the name of the officer involved in that shooting, citing fears of retaliation.

The death of 18-year-old Michael Brown has sparked widespread outrage, not just in Ferguson, but nationwide.

For the second night in a row Monday, police in riot gear clashed with protesters who took to the streets demanding justice for Brown. Micheal Brown's family is calling on the community to refrain from acting out aggressively and protest peacefully.

U.S. President Barack Obama echoed calls for calm, releasing a statement expressing condolences to the teen's family and describing his death as heartbreaking.

"I know the events of the past few days have prompted strong passions. But as details unfold, I urge everyone in Ferguson, Missouri, and across the country, to remember this young man through reflection and understanding," Obama said. "We should comfort each other and talk with one another in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds."

"We wholeheartedly agree, and adopt the words and the sentiments of the President. We think they were timely, we think they're appropriate," said Anthony Gray, one of the Browns' attorneys.

"We hope that those that heard the statement will embrace what the President has to say," he says. "We are calling for a nationwide, and especially a local calm."
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: musiclady on August 12, 2014, 10:59:16 pm
What? He's pretending to be a peacemaker now, and not the agitator/race-baiter he really is?

I ain't buyin' it.
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: raml on August 12, 2014, 11:38:03 pm
He should keep his lousy mouth shut till it has been investigated. There are stupid idiots rioting who need to be shot not given the presidents ok. I hate when young male blacks without jobs I imagine since they are able to be there going from protesting something to destroying things and stealing that is something they do as we do have proof of that over the years. I always wonder if that is what they are taught at home to take what isn't yours and destroy when things don't go your way because it has happened way to many times. We should go back to really shooting looters like they use to in the good ole days when criminals weren't coddled then it would not happen with blacks or whites.
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: sinkspur on August 12, 2014, 11:47:01 pm
Notice how the Uniter always has to stick his mug into white-on-black incidents.  He never says a damned word when whites are killed by blacks.

He's nothing but a race-baiter, always appealing to his black constituency, giving shout outs and fist bumps to his homies.

Title: Fox’s Bolling: Why Does Sharpton Always Try to Insert Himself into Tragedy?
Post by: mystery-ak on August 12, 2014, 11:49:57 pm
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-bolling-why-does-sharpton-always-try-to-insert-himself-into-tragedy/ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-bolling-why-does-sharpton-always-try-to-insert-himself-into-tragedy/)

Fox’s Bolling: Why Does Sharpton Always Try to Insert Himself into Tragedy?
by Josh Feldman | 6:18 pm, August 12th, 2014

Al Sharpton spoke in Ferguson, Missouri earlier today about the tragic police shooting of Michael Brown. Fox News’ Eric Bolling, however, wondered why Sharpton always inserts himself into national tragedies like these instead of just “stay[ing] out of it” for once.

Sharpton generally weighs in publicly on many issues connected to the black community, ranging from discrimination to shooting tragedies like Brown and Trayvon Martin. On The Five today, Bob Beckel said that even if Sharpton has condemned violent protests over the shooting, he “has a way of condemning things at the same time he stokes them.”

Bolling went a step further, questioning why Sharpton has to get involved every time something like this happens.

“How about for once he just stays out of it? You know, why do we need him to condemn it or say ‘go for it’? Just stay out!”
Beckel compared that to “telling a rabid dog to stay away from a hamburger.”

Andrea Tantaros also expressed concerns this could “end up turning into another Trayvon Martin case.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-bolling-why-does-sharpton-always-try-to-insert-himself-into-tragedy/#ooid=txMXNsbzq_bKLiJ06M50tluFSLV7p7i3 (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-bolling-why-does-sharpton-always-try-to-insert-himself-into-tragedy/#ooid=txMXNsbzq_bKLiJ06M50tluFSLV7p7i3)
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: mountaineer on August 13, 2014, 12:20:24 am
Just stfu, Hussein. For once.
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: DCPatriot on August 13, 2014, 12:27:10 am
Notice how the Uniter always has to stick his mug into white-on-black incidents.  He never says a damned word when whites are killed by blacks.

He's nothing but a race-baiter, always appealing to his black constituency, giving shout outs and fist bumps to his homies.

Has it been established if the shooting officer is Caucasian?  I know you mentioned that it might be a female?
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: Chieftain on August 13, 2014, 12:27:41 am
Just stfu, Hussein. For once.

He won't say much at all, he doesn't have to.  He won't rein in the usual race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson either.  I really think a lot of the pent up rage in St. Louis isn't partially about his black base being very disappointed that he hasn't come through with more than a few Obamaphones.  East St. Louis has been a racially charged hotbed for decades and I'm not surprised to see it boiling over again.

Wait until Obama is voted out of office and the Gravy Train finally runs off the tracks.  You ain't seen nuthin' yet.



Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: mountaineer on August 13, 2014, 12:37:10 am
East St. Louis is across the river. I guess the Illinoisans will have their own protests, but heaven knows there are plenty of put-upon minorities on the Missouri side to have a few riots or burn a few businesses.
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: sinkspur on August 13, 2014, 12:45:38 am
Has it been established if the shooting officer is Caucasian?  I know you mentioned that it might be a female?

If he were black, his name would already be out there.

Therefore, the shooter is a white male or white female.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Carling on August 13, 2014, 01:30:39 am
No worries, the Ferguson mob has headed for the whiter parts of town (west St. Louis County, Ladue, Des Peres, Town and Country, etc.).

Is Obama going to bus them there?
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: Carling on August 13, 2014, 01:33:13 am
Notice how the Uniter always has to stick his mug into white-on-black incidents.  He never says a damned word when whites are killed by blacks.

He's nothing but a race-baiter, always appealing to his black constituency, giving shout outs and fist bumps to his homies.

Are we sure this is a white on black incident?  Or, are you just being glib?   :silly:
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: sinkspur on August 13, 2014, 01:53:59 am
Are we sure this is a white on black incident?  Or, are you just being glib?   :silly:

Pretty sure that if this were a black cop, they'd have his name out there already.   That would calm "the community."

You're sure nasty to me, all of a sudden. Still holding a grudge from that Cochran nonsense, huh?
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 13, 2014, 01:58:57 am
Just read that there are only 3 black cops on the Ferguson police force.  Odds that Brown was shot by one is low.

As I said, white male or female.
Title: Obama Jumps Into The Missouri Police, Race Dispute
Post by: rangerrebew on August 13, 2014, 09:27:13 am
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Obama Jumps Into The Missouri Police, Race Dispute

Posted By Neil Munro On 7:07 PM 08/12/2014 In | No Comments




President Barack Obama has jumped into the racial showdown in Ferguson, Mo., by releasing a statement about the death of Michael Brown, who died Aug. 9 after an altercation with police.

The incident sparked shootings, looting, arson and cries of police brutality by a series of African-American political actors, including Al Sharpton. (RELATED: Al Sharpton Calls For Peace And Federal Investigation Of Black Teen’s Shooting Death)

It has also prompted numerous comparisons to the death of Trayvon Martin, and the subsequent trial and acquittal of neighborhood watch volunteer, George Zimmerman.

That controversy was boosted by African-American leaders, including Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, and it helped increase African-American turnout in 2012. In March 2012, eight months before the November election, Obama used a Rose Garden press event to declare, “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.”

Obama released the Ferguson statement while on vacation in Massachusetts, 12 weeks before a critical midterm election where relatively few of Obama’s African-Americans supporters are expected to vote.

“The death of Michael Brown is heartbreaking, and Michelle and I send our deepest condolences to his family and his community at this very difficult time,” Obama said in a 4:34 p.m. statement.

“As Attorney General Holder has indicated, the Department of Justice is investigating the situation along with local officials, and they will continue to direct resources to the case as needed,” Obama said.

But Obama also took care to distance himself from the televised looting and arson in Ferguson. (RELATED: FAA Issues Flight Restriction After Rioters Fired ‘Multiple Times’ At Police Helicopter)

“I know the events of the past few days have prompted strong passions, but as details unfold, I urge everyone in Ferguson, Missouri, and across the country, to remember this young man through reflection and understanding,” he said.

“We should comfort each other and talk with one another in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds,” he said. “Along with our prayers, that’s what Michael and his family, and our broader American community, deserve,” Obama said. (RELATED: News Photographer Needed His War Gear To Cover Missouri Riot Following Police Shooting)

 
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Title: These Two Businesses Did NOT Get Looted… Can You Guess Why?
Post by: rangerrebew on August 13, 2014, 10:10:48 am
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These Two Businesses Did NOT Get Looted… Can You Guess Why?

Posted By Mac Slavo On August 12, 2014 @ 9:00 am In Crime/Police State,Editor's Choice,Featured,News,People,War and Conflict | 3 Comments
 (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ferguson-defend-300x199.jpg)

 

(Pictured: Mike Gutierrez (left) and Adam Weinstein (third from left) brought guns to guard their store during the riots in Ferguson last night.)

While scores of businesses in Ferguson were being looted by out of control rioters Sunday night, a couple of them went the evening without incident.

If you’re wondering why, then check out the following picture for the answer.


Nobody is robbing St. Louis Ink Tattoo Studio anytime soon. Or County Guns, for that matter.

The two north county businesses share a storefront in a Florissant strip mall less than ten minute drive from the epicenter of last night’s riots in Ferguson.



After hearing of the roving bands of looters, Mike Gutierrez knew he had to protect his tattoo shop. He brought a posse with him, including Adam Weinstein, owner of County Guns, who was acutely worried about criminals getting their hands on his merchandise.

“We didn’t want them coming in here and then running around with a bunch of free guns,” Weinstein told Daily RFT when we arrive at the store around 12:30 a.m. this morning. Weinstein was outfitted with an assault rifle, pistol and tactical vest. Gutierrez cradled his own rifle in his hands.

(Via Riverfront Times [2])


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Title: Dregs of Humanity on Display in Ferguson, Missouri
Post by: rangerrebew on August 13, 2014, 10:21:19 am


Dregs of Humanity on Display in Ferguson, Missouri


Posted 19 hours ago by Tad Cronn Filed under Corruption, Crime, Culture, Liberal Hypocrisy, Racism
 

Once again, we have a police shooting in a largely black community being used as an excuse for rioting, rampaging and looting.

The proximal excuse is the fatal shooting of an 18-year-old boy, Michael Brown, who media repeatedly tell us was unarmed.




The teen in question was supposed to be starting college this week, and his family's and supporters' version of the story is that Brown was shot repeatedly for no reason while walking on Saturday to his grandmother's house with a friend. According to a witness, Brown had his hands up in the air when he was shot.

The police version -- surprise, surprise -- is different. In that version of the tale, a police officer stopped two men on the street, one of whom was Brown, and soon found himself fighting with at least one of them inside the police car as the suspect tried to take the officer's gun. Several shots later, Brown was fatally wounded.

The details of what happened are still sketchy, but that didn't stop protesters on Sunday from chanting "no justice, no peace" and going into riot that lasted well into Monday, spawning multiple parallel riots and brawls throughout town.

During the riot, the criminal element turned to pillaging and burning their own community, with dozens, perhaps hundreds, of people caught on videotape trashing stores and lighting several on fire. Teams of seemingly organized thugs broke into stores and were taped running off with goods under their arms.

Even though the police were out in force with riot gear and police dogs, the rioters managed to vandalize several police cars, and law enforcement often appeared hesitant to stop the rampage's worst outbreaks.

There are many details that remain unclear at this point, both about the shooting and about the ensuing riots. Still, there are many lessons that can be drawn from the events in Ferguson.

Probably the most important lessons have to do with power. The dynamic in Ferguson seems to be one that is common across the country, particularly in black neighborhoods. The local residents live in a situation where they feel powerless. To be sure, some like it that way because it means they get taken care of by the government like small children. But I'll wager even more people in that community harbor a seething resentment toward a government system that financially punishes anyone who tries to break away from the federal and state plantation.




Government programs are in many ways a trap. They rarely provide enough money, food or other benefits to have a decent life, only enough to squeak by on. So long as you're content with that, you're fine. But if you want to better yourself or seek opportunities for your family, the government begins subtracting benefits in a way that often will exceed any increase in income you might earn on your own. Those who want out of the system, therefore, have a huge incentive for surrendering their hopes and aspirations.

Adding to the resentment that situation creates, many poor communities feel the double sting of a high crime rate and a constant authoritarian police presence that seems to have little effect on that crime rate.

Part of that police state of siege is the strict enforcement of gun control laws, a situation that only truly affects the law-abiding even as criminals have access to ever more powerful weaponry.

It's worth noting that in the Ferguson riots, businesses that weren't looted or damaged often were not those with police officers nearby but with armed owners using their own guns to defend their property.

Ferguson, Missouri, is a model of the Left's socialist society, where the people are angry but powerless and the suffering is spread around but opportunity goes missing while the police lord over everyone.

This is what the Left wants for all of America, and this weekend's riots are the most likely results of such a situation.

The solution to such riots before they ever happen is to get government out of people's lives and teach them to take personal responsibility for themselves, their families and their communities.

Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/16630/dregs-humanity-display-ferguson-missouri/#LP00DdtIerSsMXel.99
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: olde north church on August 13, 2014, 12:35:22 pm
One thing I've learned while treading the fields of God's green earth is there are three sides to every story.  In this case, the police, the victim (who can tell no tales) and the truth.
Looting?  Like they needed a reason?
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Dexter on August 13, 2014, 01:23:40 pm
Yes sink we know, you hate cops.

Expecting cops to conduct themselves to a certain standard and wanting to get to the bottom of what was possibly a real crime in absolutely no way means Sinkspur hates cops. I've never seen him post anything that was indicative of a general dislike of law enforcement. He, like me, recognizes the potential for a snowball effect when a police force becomes increasingly hostile and violent. No reasonable person can deny that it is becoming more and more common for the police to use more and more excessive and unnecessary force that results in more unnecessary death. That's not to say that most cops are bad, because they're not. However when you militarize the police and create a mindset of us vs them, it is a problem. The police are supposed to serve the public, not assume it is their enemy until proven otherwise. The dangers associated with being a cop do not excuse excessive force and violence; good cops are heroes for a reason. If you're not willing to accept the dangers of being a good cop that follows the law completely, you should not be in law enforcement.
Title: #Anonymous Releases Names, Address of Wife, Children of St. Louis County Police Chief
Post by: mystery-ak on August 13, 2014, 02:14:01 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/anonymous-threatens-wife-children-of-st-louis-county-police-chief/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/anonymous-threatens-wife-children-of-st-louis-county-police-chief/)

#Anonymous Releases Names, Address of Wife, Children of St. Louis County Police Chief
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 7:00 AM
 
 

On Monday the #Anonymous hacker group threatened the Ferguson Police Department.

(http://4-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/xanonymous.jpg.pagespeed.ic.5-hNtTjtal.jpg)

The hackers promised to release personal information on every police officer if protests (rioting) is disrupted in Ferguson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOSRQ-c1XW0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOSRQ-c1XW0)

On Tuesday #Anonymous released the private information of St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar and his wife and children.
The group posted a link to the information in a tweet.

(http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/xanon-jon-belmar.jpg.pagespeed.ic.I1XRwcuM8R.jpg)

Anonymous reported the police chief’s address and information on his wife and children.
What self-righteous thugs.

There is also a report that a Florissant, Missouri family was evacuated from their home due to threats after Anonymous wrongly ID’d them as the Ferguson cop who killed Michael Brown.

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    Florissant Police family evacuated from home due to threats after '#Anonymous' wrongly ID him as the #Ferguson cop. http://t.co/nncd5k9Bbs

    — JΞSTΞR ✪ ACTUAL™ (@th3j35t3r) August 13, 2014

Good work, guys.
Title: Re: #Anonymous Releases Names, Address of Wife, Children of St. Louis County Police Chief
Post by: GourmetDan on August 13, 2014, 06:14:58 pm
Anonymous (or the NSA so disguised) is just doing their part to give government the excuse they need to bring in internet fascism...


Title: Re: #Anonymous Releases Names, Address of Wife, Children of St. Louis County Police Chief
Post by: mountaineer on August 13, 2014, 07:03:49 pm
Quote
On Tuesday #Anonymous released the private information of St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar
St. Louis County Police and Ferguson Police are separate entities. The writer hasn't clearly identified the department for which Belmar works.
Title: FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence
Post by: mystery-ak on August 13, 2014, 07:12:31 pm
http://fox2now.com/2014/08/13/fbi-warns-new-black-panther-leader-in-ferguson-inciting-violence/ (http://fox2now.com/2014/08/13/fbi-warns-new-black-panther-leader-in-ferguson-inciting-violence/)

FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence
Posted 12:04 pm, August 13, 2014, by Staff,

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – The FBI is concerned members of the New Black Panther Party are in Ferguson and advocating violence against police.

According to an alert from the St. Louis Division of the FBI the National Chief of Staff of the New Black Panther Party is in Ferguson.  Chawn Kweli and other members of the NBPP are in town to respond to the shooting of Michael Brown.

This is part of a Facebook status posted by Kweli , “This is the hour all the greats promised.  If you die, die like a warrior.  I’ll see you on the ground.”
Title: Why has Obama taken sides in the Ferguson case?
Post by: mountaineer on August 13, 2014, 07:48:53 pm
Why Has Obama Already Taken a Side in the Brown Case?
by Keith Koffler on August 13, 2014, 1:41 pm
White House Dossier (http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2014/08/13/obama-side-brown-case/)


Here we go again. It’s very depressing.

This was supposed to be a president who united the country and helped heal racial divisions. Post-racial, post-political. Of course, he’s been anything but.

As he did in the Trayvon Martin case, President Obama is jumping right into the fray of a racially charged incident with an opinion about what happened.

Sure, in a statement released Tuesday, he called for calm, but only indirectly – i.e. we need “healing” instead of “wounds” – and only as a sideshow to his main point, which was empathy for Brown and the clear suggestion that the killing was wrongful and racially motivated

“The death of Michael Brown is heartbreaking, and Michelle and I send our deepest condolences to his family and his community at this very difficult time,” Obama wrote, adding that Brown and his family need “our prayers.”

Let me be clear: I have no idea why Michael Brown was shot. BUT NEITHER DOES OBAMA.

The police say it was self defense. A witness says Brown was shot for absolutely no reason. An investigation by federal authorities is underway. It’s very important to find out what happened, because we can’t have police shooting black men for no reason, OR, we have to allow police to protect themselves.

Actually, if we truly live in a nation whose judicial system and culture is predicated on a presumption of innocence, then once this officer’s name is out, it’s going to be him and his family who needs our prayers, you can be sure.

But this doesn’t occur to Obama. Because Obama’s race apparently defines his worldview to a far greater extent then he let on.

I don’t begrudge Obama having emotions and passions derived from being a black man in a society that can still exhibit racism – and that certainly did during his youth. Walking around as a young man in black skin, you are defined by many, often negatively – even by those who are not racist – before you’ve even open your mouth. Although he did grow up in Hawaii, which I imagine was a far more benevolent place than most others.

What I object to is Obama’s failure, both as president as the chief enforcer of laws, to put those passions away and take an objective view that represents everyone and at least awaits EVIDENCE before making judgements.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: DCPatriot on August 13, 2014, 07:59:57 pm
He's got something to say about everything, except those beautiful haunting faces of those little Yazidi children.   

He's pure evil.
Title: Re: FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence
Post by: Chieftain on August 13, 2014, 08:05:18 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/SeniorChieftain/new_black_pampers.jpg)
Title: Re: FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence
Post by: truth_seeker on August 13, 2014, 08:08:23 pm
The fellow has probably committed a crime;  incitement of violence. Arrest and try him.

Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: DCPatriot on August 14, 2014, 02:50:06 am
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1027192/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1027192/pg1)

A very good thread on the Ferguson police militarization with many pics and video. 
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: aligncare on August 14, 2014, 02:47:48 pm
A large democratic constituency looting and rioting. Hm? How unusual.

Voting for the same old Democrats and getting the same old result much?
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: Carling on August 15, 2014, 04:16:42 pm
Pretty sure that if this were a black cop, they'd have his name out there already.   That would calm "the community."

You're sure nasty to me, all of a sudden. Still holding a grudge from that Cochran nonsense, huh?

I'm not holding a grudge against you.  I just found your assumptions in this case to be off-base. 

Now, about it being a black cop...   :tongue2:
Title: Re: Obama calls black teen's shooting by police 'heartbreaking'
Post by: DCPatriot on August 15, 2014, 07:04:21 pm
I'm not holding a grudge against you.  I just found your assumptions in this case to be off-base. 

Now, about it being a black cop...   :tongue2:

The "black cop" the media presented is a St. Louis, MO cop.  Not the same person.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 15, 2014, 07:05:47 pm
The cop who shot Brown was a WHITE cop named Darren Wilson.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: Carling on August 15, 2014, 08:22:09 pm
The cop who shot Brown was a WHITE cop named Darren Wilson.

Even more reason for him to fear for his life after being assaulted by the much larger Michael Brown.
Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: GourmetDan on August 15, 2014, 08:23:33 pm
Even more reason for him to fear for his life after being assaulted by the much larger Michael Brown.

Maybe he just didn't want to play 'the knockout game'...


Title: Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
Post by: sinkspur on August 15, 2014, 08:57:47 pm
Even more reason for him to fear for his life after being assaulted by the much larger Michael Brown.

So much for your laughing icon posted at me because I was "wrong" about the cop being white.

Who looks foolish now?