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General Category => Science, Technology and Knowledge => History => Topic started by: Quasar44 on May 24, 2020, 06:58:17 am

Title: Ukrainian Holocaust
Post by: Quasar44 on May 24, 2020, 06:58:17 am
Between 1932-1933..there was a great and deliberate starvation holocaust that many have forgotten .
 Stalin purposely starved to death up to 7-10 million Ukrainians to send a message

This was probably why the Ukraine’s were so pro -Nazi in the following decade

A century before ;we had the Irish starvations that was greatly aided by the English , known as the “Potato famine “
Title: Re: Ukrainian Holocaust
Post by: PeteS in CA on May 24, 2020, 04:49:37 pm
Between 1932-1933..there was a great and deliberate starvation holocaust that many have forgotten .
 Stalin purposely starved to death up to 7-10 million Ukrainians to send a message

This was probably why the Ukraine’s were so pro -Nazi in the following decade
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Robert Conquest's The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine is a good but horrifying intro on the topic. And yes, the Holodomor was at least a major, if not THE, reason Ukraine was initially pro-Nazi. But Hitler was too ignorant and racist to take advantage of this opportunity.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Holocaust
Post by: Joe Wooten on May 24, 2020, 10:11:10 pm
Robert Conquest's The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine is a good but horrifying intro on the topic. And yes, the Holodomor was at least a major, if not THE, reason Ukraine was initially pro-Nazi. But Hitler was too ignorant and racist to take advantage of this opportunity.

Yep. That was a mistake, one of many he made, but probably his biggest mistake. If he has used the Ukrainians to help the German army they would have defeated the USSR by the end of 1942.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Holocaust
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 25, 2020, 12:26:06 am
Thanks for the reminder of this massacre, @Quasar44!
Title: Re: Ukrainian Holocaust
Post by: Absalom on May 25, 2020, 05:22:17 am
Between 1932-1933..there was a great and deliberate starvation holocaust that many have forgotten .
Stalin purposely starved to death up to 7-10 million Ukrainians to send a message
This was probably why the Ukraine’s were so pro -Nazi in the following decade

A century before ;we had the Irish starvations that was greatly aided by the English , known as the “Potato famine “
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The Irish Famine was the result of the failure of the potato crop for 2 consecutive years
and was NOT instigated by Great Britain.
My family came from Counties Galway, Mayo and Sligo; the agricultural heartland of Erie!!!
Title: Re: Ukrainian Holocaust
Post by: Quasar44 on May 25, 2020, 08:06:23 pm
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The Irish Famine was the result of the failure of the potato crop for 2 consecutive years
and was NOT instigated by Great Britain.
My family came from Counties Galway, Mayo and Sligo; the agricultural heartland of Erie!!!

The English did nothing to save them   
The wealthier Irish farmers exported other crops and food to the English
  The English let them die