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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: HAPPY2BME on October 04, 2016, 04:22:46 pm
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FoxNews6Now.com
by Theo Keith
Republican Party chair Reince Priebus has a warning for "Never Trump" Republicans -- support the nominee or your chances of running for president could come "never again."
"They used tools from the RNC. They agreed to support the nominee," Priebus said. "Those people need to get on board. And if they're thinking they're going to run again someday, you know, I think that we're going to evaluate the process of the nomination process, and I don't think it's going to be that easy for them."
http://fox6now.com/2016/09/19/they-agreed-to-support-the-nominee-now-gop-party-chair-is-pressing-republicans-to-back-donald-trump/
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Liar.
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RNC Chair Reince Priebus: 90% of Republicans Are Now Supporting Trump, The Rest Should Get on Board
Reince Priebus: Look, 90 percent of Republicans are on board. You have a handful of people that aren’t. They should be on board. They have agreed to be on board. They’re not on board. They should get on board. But I actually think when you look at these two parties right now you have two huge change movements happening within both parties. The difference is the Republican party has chosen the change movement candidate in Donald Trump. The Democrats chose the status quo entity in their party. I think… they’re going to lose support.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/rnc-chairman-reince-priebus-90-republicans/
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Oh great, more of the armband, clicky boot, bullwhip, and baton routine.
I thought Trump didn't need our votes?
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RNC Chair Reince Priebus: 90% of Republicans Are Now Supporting Trump, The Rest Should Get on Board
I don't give a rat's ass.
I'm done with their party, and they can kiss my hind end.
I'm voting Conservative, third party.
The GOP needs to die.
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Liar.
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Reince Priebus Touts Donald Trump’s Momentum: ‘It’s a Change Electorate’
Republican National Chairman Reince Priebus declares Donald Trump is ready to beat Hillary Clinton.
Priebus spoke to roughly 1,500 people at the Values Voters Summit at the Omni Shoreham Hotel in Washington, D.C.
“Just a few weeks ago, the media was writing off Donald Trump” Priebus mocked, noting that Trump has closed the gap in recent polls. “Donald Trump is ready to win.”
“Momentum is on his side. The electorate is on his side. It’s a change electorate,” he added. “Nobody here thinks that Hillary Clinton is the change candidate.”
“He’s brought millions of new voters into the GOP,” Priebus added of Trump, nothing his 14.5 million votes during the GOP primary. “He knows that Americans have had enough.”
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/09/reince-priebus-touts-trumps-momentum-change-electorate/
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Nobody has a right to demand anybody's vote. Votes are earned. As Trump's campaign is starting to show signs of imploding ,there has been an increase in the number of statements from people who have the belief that Trump is somehow entitled to one's vote.
Yes I understand one of these two will become president. And whether someone decides to vote for Trump or decides to stay home there are consequences either way
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I don't give a rat's ass.
I'm done with their party, and they can kiss my hind end.
I'm voting Conservative, third party.
The GOP needs to die.
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isn't this supposed to be a republican website?
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RNC Chair Reince Priebus: 90% of Republicans Are Now Supporting Trump, The Rest Should Get on Board
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/rnc-chairman-reince-priebus-90-republicans/
Now post the GOP numbers showing how many people left the party. The GOP is smaller by the day and 90% of 'not enough to win' is the fault of Rinse and Donald.
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isn't this supposed to be a republican website?
Guess you missed the memo.
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Wrench Pubic makes Micheal Steele look competent. I guess he didn't see where his boy Donny said point blank he didn't need Conservative voters support to win because he was so awesome. He openly courted Bernie voters. Wrench should threaten those Bern folks for not supporting Donny because it is their fault he is struggling.
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This article is a month old. Trump has spent the last week throwing away whatever capital he had built. It is on him, not us.
Meanwhile, here's Trumpkin in full panic mode:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct7VcB_XEAAquYS.jpg)
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Guess you missed the memo.
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there was an actual memo?
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isn't this supposed to be a republican website?
Republican? No, not at all. That photo at the top is an imposter. Reagan would never use an Apple product...
:silly:
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Now post the GOP numbers showing how many people left the party. The GOP is smaller by the day and 90% of 'not enough to win' is the fault of Rinse and Donald.
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rest easy. stay at home.
relax. you have no iron in the fire
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isn't this supposed to be a republican website?
No, a Conservative website. GOP, Grand Old Party, not Grand New Progressive Lite party. We represent Conservatives of all stripes. We aren't bought and paid for by a political party.
That's why we are GOP Briefing Room, not RNC Incorporated Briefing Room. The political party is the RNC (Republican National Committee), GOP was just a nickname. (and technically, we are just The Briefing Room, GOPBRiefingRoom,com was just the URL domain that was available at the time).
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there was an actual memo?
Conservatives all got it. If you didn't...well...
Jus' sayin.
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rest easy. stay at home.
relax. you have no iron in the fire
Any reason you refuse to address a legitimate point?
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Republican? No, not at all. That photo at the top is an imposter. Reagan would never use an Apple product...
:silly:
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I still admire Ronald Reagan.
He would sure whip some neocon ass if he were still up and moving.
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Any reason you refuse to address a legitimate point?
Norm, is it just me or does it seem like desperation is kicking in for some?
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Norm, is it just me or does it seem like desperation is kicking in for some?
@AbaraXas
It isn't just you.
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isn't this supposed to be a republican website?
No, this is a conservative website...huge difference.
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No one's staying home - I'll be voting a straight GOP ticket except for the albatross at the top.
Re-elect Pat Toomey!!
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Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
Ronald Reagan
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first.
Ronald Reagan
Man is not free unless government is limited.
Ronald Reaga
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Norm, is it just me or does it seem like desperation is kicking in for some?
@AbaraXas
It isn't just you.
You can smell it in the air, tonight.
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Norm, is it just me or does it seem like desperation is kicking in for some?
Nope. It's not just you.
There are a handful here that are true believers. They succeeded at FR in destroying it as a conservative site, but they failed here. Their scripts didn't work probably because it was a smarter base audience. When us FR expats arrived, their job got harder because now they had the best from both places to deal with and we all see them posting how much they hate us.
Now that Donnie is totally tanking this and everyone can see he's tanking this, the browbeating will only increase until morale improves! It's SOP for liberals and Trump supporters are liberals. They back one. they 'are one'.
We all know that liberals don't take defeat well. They emote. they lash out and they throw themselves on the floor demanding their candy bar.
TLDR: No shock. It's who and what they are.
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Man is not free unless government is limited.
Ronald Reagan
Tell us how Trump will limit government?
He is proposing a brand-new expensive entitlement in paid maternity leave.
He wants to compromise the 1st amendment so that he can go after the media when they criticize him
He wants to limit the ability of middle class Americans to buy low cost goods by taxing them on the price of those goods.
He wants to spend a half-trillion dollars on "infrastructure" which usually means pouring money into construction unions and the Teamsters.
Trump is all about big government.
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Liar.
Fixed it for him . . .
(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3918&pictureid=80659)
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This article is a month old. Trump has spent the last week throwing away whatever capital he had built. It is on him, not us.
Meanwhile, here's Trumpkin in full panic mode:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct7VcB_XEAAquYS.jpg)
I caught Larry Elder's show the other night and he's sounding a little distressed. To his credit, unlike Hannity, he seems to recognize that if Trump loses, it will be his own fault
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Fixed it for him . . .
(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3918&pictureid=80659)
Indeed and 100% correct. But Trump people have allergic aversions to facts like that. So I expect we'll see the lie pushed regardless. It's what they always do.
Today I have seen four of them pushing that meme in some form. They do not care about the truth. they only want their liberal in power. Which means they only want their version of liberalism governing America.
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No, this is a conservative website...huge difference.
:beer: :patriot: :patriot:
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Back to the original topic, it should be pointed out that politicians are not employed by the Republican or Democrat party but by the people.
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
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Those are all classic truths from 'The Gipper.'
re: Freedom
This country is literally less than 90 days away from losing it if Hillary Clinton (and the trump hater$) get their way.
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This country is literally less than 90 days away from losing it if Hillary Clinton (and the trump hater$) get their way.
If we 'had our way', Trump - the Trojan Stalking Horse would not be the nominee.
The country has already lost it, you people just refuse to realize it.
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“He’s brought millions of new voters into the GOP,” Priebus added of Trump, nothing his 14.5 million votes during the GOP primary.
So you still haven't figured out that those "new voters" were Hillary supporters crossing over to vote for the easiest candidate to beat.
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And voters who vote for liberals like Trump end up electing liberals.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Trump and Clinton are just two sides of the same coin.
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Tell us how Trump will limit government?
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He wants to spend a half-trillion dollars on "infrastructure" which usually means pouring money into construction unions and the Teamsters.
Actually, it is a full trillion, making it larger than Obama's so-called 'stimulus' in 2009. Trump goes farther left than even Obama, yet these sycophants line up for another glass of kool-aid.
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
Precisely why I keep fighting Trumpism. We need a party that supports the Constitution and limited government. That party has been hi-jacked this year by alt-right xenophobes who don't give a damn about the cause of human liberty. I WANT IT BACK.
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Fixed it for him . . .
(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3918&pictureid=80659)
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Fixed it for him . . .
(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3918&pictureid=80659)
Republicans who stand there and let someone get murdered, haven't murdered anyone.
They have no fault and no guilt whatsoever, because they have no OBLIGATION to stop someone from being murdered.
That about sum it up?
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Another voice of sanity, of which there are too few on this website.
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
And if voting to stop evil accomplished anything, we would not be where we are right now as a nation.
Evil triumphed, because everyone assumes evil can be fixed in the courts or by the ballot box.
Funny considering we did not win our independence that way.
But no one remembers history anymore. Just who they pledge themselves to politically or culturally.
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Another voice of sanity, of which there are too few on this website.
I think they're hunting us down with dogs or something now....
I'd be a bit more understanding of the argument if someone could explain how it might be possible for a conservative to win in 2020 after Hillary wins next month. Between the courts and the demographics, I just don't see it as possible. That green-blooded hobgoblin Ted Cruz apparently looked at the situation logically, and reached the same conclusion.
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And if voting to stop evil accomplished anything, we would not be where we are right now as a nation.
How so? I mean, voting and losing accomplishes nothing, I'll give you that. But Obama won, twice. Had he not won, I think we'd be in a better position than we are today, especially in terms of the Supreme Court.
Evil triumphed, because everyone assumes evil can be fixed in the courts or by the ballot box.
Have you taken a poll or something? I'd wager that a fairly high percentage of people believe that the courts or ballot box cannot always prevent an evil.
Funny considering we did not win our independence that way.
Well, good luck firing the first shot.
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Another voice of sanity, of which there are too few on this website.
Why?? Because for you "sanity" requires voting for a degenerate leftist like Trump??
I'd say that it's far saner to stay far away from evil than it is to embrace it .
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Why?? Because for you "sanity" requires voting for a degenerate leftist like Trump??
I'd say that it's far saner to stay far away from evil than it is to embrace it .
Well not being evil yourself, that would make sense. But if you WERE evil, then electing someone with a lifetime liberalism that destroys little people for sport and destroys the foundations of conservatism would be the correct choice.
A handful here have chosen to side with a person that has everything in common with the philosophy he built his life on and nothing with conservative values or constitutional governance, both of which he has spoken and donated his own cash fighting against.
What it makes them is pretty obvious.
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I think they're hunting us down with dogs or something now....
I'd be a bit more understanding of the argument if someone could explain how it might be possible for a conservative to win in 2020 after Hillary wins next month. Between the courts and the demographics, I just don't see it as possible. That green-blooded hobgoblin Ted Cruz apparently looked at the situation logically, and reached the same conclusion.
I am sick of listening to them. Every single post is an example of extremely misplaced priorities. Hillary is a Nazi. She is a deluded, psychotic, corrupt, deceitful, vengeful , hate-filled old communist shrew who cannot wait to turn the entire mass of Federal power against us.
And they want to bitch about Trump? It is just childish.
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Why?? Because for you "sanity" requires voting for a degenerate leftist like Trump??
I'd say that it's far saner to stay far away from evil than it is to embrace it .
If I may offer my two cents....
I think there are reasonable grounds for disagreement as to whether or not Trump is better than Hillary. We all have our own opinions on that, but I think it's a reasonable debate to have. If they are "equal evils", then there is no point in opposing one more than the other.
But that's different from arguments that those who don't vote for Trump bear no responsibility if Hillary wins. If someone views Trump as the lesser evil, but nevertheless refuses to support him against a greater evil, then those people have some responsibility for the consequences of that decision. And I suspect that in other contexts, most of us would reject out of hand the argument that standing by and doing nothing in the face of something bad is a morally sound choice. Hence, the Edmund Burke quote on how/why evil can triumph.
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I'd be a bit more understanding of the argument if someone could explain how it might be possible for a conservative to win in 2020 after Hillary wins next month.
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember people asking the same question after Jimmy Carter a) won in 1976, and b) unfurled his
real colours early and often. The answer to that question was, of course, Ronald Reagan in 1980.
I grant you that we may never get a Republican candidate quite like Mr. Reagan in 2020, but if we must deal with
President Hilarious Rodent Clinton for four years, she's just liable to piss off enough in both major parties (reality check:
even Democrats are getting more and more discomfited by her now) to make it very possible for a rightward candidate to
win in 2020. Or, barring a solid rightward candidate (let's say, the best the GOP can do in 2020 is to hoist up another Bob Dolt
1996 type on today's terms), maybe another Republican Congressional sweep a la 1994---maybe in 2020, maybe two years
sooner. (With the hope, of course, that next time they won't be as fast to sell out their revolution, actual or alleged, as Newtie
and the Blowfish were . . . )
I'm still voting for None of These Candidates next month on the presidential line, and maybe a few others as well. But it's not
impossible for a President Hilarious Rodent Clinton to provoke another kind of rightward revival in 2020.
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I am sick of listening to them. Every single post is an example of extremely misplaced priorities. Hillary is a Nazi. She is a deluded, psychotic, corrupt, deceitful, vengeful , hate-filled old communist shrew who cannot wait to turn the entire mass of Federal power against us.
And they want to bitch about Trump? It is just childish.
On the day after the election, if Trump wins by some miracle, I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope that he appoints some decent judges, and doesn't do too much damage otherwise. But at least I'll have something to hope for.
If Hillary wins...I just don't see a path out of that for the country. The judges, immigration, institutionalization of political correctness and limitations on political speech...there's just nowhere left to go from there. Ronald Reagan himself could rise up, and not get 45% of the vote.
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RNC Chair Reince Priebus: 90% of Republicans Are Now Supporting Trump, The Rest Should Get on Board
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/rnc-chairman-reince-priebus-90-republicans/
Where did Rinse get his 90% figure?
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isn't this supposed to be a republican website?
I took it as a CONSERVATIVE website not party first bootlickers.
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I could be wrong, but I seem to remember people asking the same question after Jimmy Carter a) won in 1976, and b) unfurled his
real colours early and often. The answer to that question was, of course, Ronald Reagan in 1980.
I grant you that we may never get a Republican candidate quite like Mr. Reagan in 2020, but if we must deal with
President Hilarious Rodent Clinton for four years, she's just liable to piss off enough in both major parties (reality check:
even Democrats are getting more and more discomfited by her now) to make it very possible for a rightward candidate to
win in 2020. Or, barring a solid rightward candidate (let's say, the best the GOP can do in 2020 is to hoist up another Bob Dolt
1996 type on today's terms), maybe another Republican Congressional sweep a la 1994---maybe in 2020, maybe two years
sooner. (With the hope, of course, that next time they won't be as fast to sell out their revolution, actual or alleged, as Newtie
and the Blowfish were . . . )
I'm still voting for None of These Candidates next month on the presidential line, and maybe a few others as well. But it's not
impossible for a President Hilarious Rodent Clinton to provoke another kind of rightward revival in 2020.
Thanks for the response. What about the Justices she'll appoint, and the legalization/voting rights for illegals? Those really weren't issues in 1980. And demographically, we're not in 1980 any more. In Reagan's day, there was a split between the parties, but also a large swath of undecided voters -- the potential "Reagan Democrats". Now, those people are all part of the GOP, but the electorate otherwise has shifted. You have far more single females, who lean heavily left, and far more minorities. Those are core Democrat constituencies that lean overwhelming left, and they also get a majority of government employees, academics, people in the arts, etc..
I just don't see a path if the illegals get the vote, and that does seem to be one issue on which Hillary and the Dems seem united. And why not? It basically locks them up long term.
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@Applewood
The last time I remember being told by the RNC to "fall in line" behind the Republican, it was in New York and the Republican candidate DeeDee Scozzfava, was so mad at those who wouldn't fall in line that she turned around and endorsed the Democrat.
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Trump would not support the GOP nominee if it were not himself, but he did say he would absolutely support Hillary if she wins.
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@Applewood
The last time I remember being told by the RNC to "fall in line" behind the Republican, it was in New York and the Republican candidate DeeDee Scozzfava, was so mad at those who wouldn't fall in line that she turned around and endorsed the Democrat.
Downright childish, but then again, the whole party is acting like a bunch of two year olds. I complain about Trump's childish behavior, but in that respect, he's no different from the rest of the elites.
FWIW, I left the party in 2012, re-registered this year to vote in the primaries, then left to become an independent. Screw the Republican Party. Hasn't done anything for conservatives in years. And they have the nerve to tell people who to vote for? They can KMA and that of any other Republican who won't vote for Trump.
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@Applewood
The last time I remember being told by the RNC to "fall in line" behind the Republican, it was in New York and the Republican candidate DeeDee Scozzfava, was so mad at those who wouldn't fall in line that she turned around and endorsed the Democrat.
Which proved that her critics were 100% correct.
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I could be wrong, but I seem to remember people asking the same question after Jimmy Carter a) won in 1976, and b) unfurled his
real colours early and often. The answer to that question was, of course, Ronald Reagan in 1980.
I grant you that we may never get a Republican candidate quite like Mr. Reagan in 2020, but if we must deal with
President Hilarious Rodent Clinton for four years, she's just liable to piss off enough in both major parties (reality check:
even Democrats are getting more and more discomfited by her now) to make it very possible for a rightward candidate to
win in 2020. Or, barring a solid rightward candidate (let's say, the best the GOP can do in 2020 is to hoist up another Bob Dolt
1996 type on today's terms), maybe another Republican Congressional sweep a la 1994---maybe in 2020, maybe two years
sooner. (With the hope, of course, that next time they won't be as fast to sell out their revolution, actual or alleged, as Newtie
and the Blowfish were . . . )
You have a very different view of what you expect will happen than I have of what I expect will happen.
I remember Hillary Clinton deliberately creating a false document and lying to a Federal Judge during the Watergate hearing in an effort to deny Richard Nixon the legal counsel he was due. She was *FIRED* by her Democrat supervisor for this complete breach of ethics.
I remember Hillary Clinton firing the entire White House travel staff so she could hand their budget over to her crony friends.
I remember Hillary Clinton getting FBI files on Republican donors so she could target them with threats and intimidate them for political reasons.
I believe Hillary Clinton will create and advance a Nazi-like Federal government which will deliberately target and attack conservatives in the manner the original Nazis targeted Jews. I believe she will bungle in every way possible, foreign policy (like she has already done so far) and get us involved in conflicts and even wars. I believe she will increase the numbers of anti-American immigrants and especially Muslim immigrants to boost her voting constituency.
You will not win any elections in 2020 because not only will the polls be rigged, the people who will then be allowed to vote will be voting for her anyway. She will "immigrate" her way to eternal victory.
She will tax and spend, and she will boost the taxing and the spending beyond what even Barack Obama managed. She will also increase taxes and pay out more handouts to her "voters."
I have not even begun to describe the utter disaster that a Hillary Rodham Presidency will constitute. It boggles the imagination at how badly and in how many ways she will screw us over.
I'm still voting for None of These Candidates next month on the presidential line, and maybe a few others as well. But it's not
impossible for a President Hilarious Rodent Clinton to provoke another kind of rightward revival in 2020.
You simply do not grasp the forces at play here. The Nation, and indeed, the entire world is poised on a precarious economic razor's edge, and we have barely survived Obama.
Hillary Clinton will be a fatal blow for many of us. It is incredibly naive to think the nation can withstand another President as bad or worse (worse is my bet) than Obama.
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Thanks for the response. What about the Justices she'll appoint, and the legalization/voting rights for illegals? Those really weren't issues in 1980. And demographically, we're not in 1980 any more. In Reagan's day, there was a split between the parties, but also a large swath of undecided voters -- the potential "Reagan Democrats". Now, those people are all part of the GOP, but the electorate otherwise has shifted. You have far more single females, who lean heavily left, and far more minorities. Those are core Democrat constituencies that lean overwhelming left, and they also get a majority of government employees, academics, people in the arts, etc..
I just don't see a path if the illegals get the vote, and that does seem to be one issue on which Hillary and the Dems seem united. And why not? It basically locks them up long term.
You are far too optimistic in your assessment. You didn't even touch on the usage of "HATE CRIMES" enforcement which will target anyone who doesn't repeat the Liberal spiel about homosexuals or "immigrants."
Hillary will weaponize the government against all her political enemies. We would be entering the age of Stalin in a pants suit.
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I could be wrong, but I seem to remember people asking the same question after Jimmy Carter a) won in 1976, and b) unfurled his
real colours early and often. The answer to that question was, of course, Ronald Reagan in 1980.
I grant you that we may never get a Republican candidate quite like Mr. Reagan in 2020, but if we must deal with
President Hilarious Rodent Clinton for four years, she's just liable to piss off enough in both major parties (reality check:
even Democrats are getting more and more discomfited by her now) to make it very possible for a rightward candidate to
win in 2020. Or, barring a solid rightward candidate (let's say, the best the GOP can do in 2020 is to hoist up another Bob Dolt
1996 type on today's terms), maybe another Republican Congressional sweep a la 1994---maybe in 2020, maybe two years
sooner. (With the hope, of course, that next time they won't be as fast to sell out their revolution, actual or alleged, as Newtie
and the Blowfish were . . . )
I'm still voting for None of These Candidates next month on the presidential line, and maybe a few others as well. But it's not
impossible for a President Hilarious Rodent Clinton to provoke another kind of rightward revival in 2020.
You are missing the point here I think. IF Clinton gets in amnesty will be granted and millions of Muslims will be allowed into this country dramatically increasing the number of DEM voters...it doesn't really matter how many DEMS Hillary angers; the DEM electorate will grossly outnumber the GOP electorate and certainly those who were granted amnesty/refugee status aren't going to vote for the opposite party. That's not hypothetical, that's fact.
She will undoubtedly appoint liberal justices tilting the decisions of the SCOTUS to the left; 2nd amendment rights in particular.
To compare the Carter years to the upcoming Clinton years is like comparing a tropical storm to a Tsunami.
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@HAPPY2BME
e·lect
əˈlekt/
verb
1.
choose (someone) to hold public office or some other position by voting.
"the members who were elected to the committee"
synonyms: vote for, vote in, return, cast one's vote for
elect
[ih-lekt]
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verb (used with object)
1.
to choose or select by vote, as for an office:
to elect a mayor.
Antonyms: reject.
Accordingly:
vote
vōt/Submit
noun
1.
a formal indication of a choice between two or more candidates or courses of action, expressed typically through a ballot or a show of hands or by voice.
synonyms: ballot, poll, election, referendum, plebiscite; show of hands
"a rigged vote"
verb
1.
give or register a vote.
"they voted against the resolution"
synonyms: go to the polls, cast one's vote, cast one's ballot
"only half of them voted"
So we see that a person must cast a vote to elect a candidate, and that voting is the act of going to the polls and casting a ballot.
Therefore, it logically follows that one cannot elect someone by "staying home."
Your attempt to reason, and the attempt of the abject morons at "Conservative" Treehouse, is a flaming wreckage filled with fail.
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You are missing the point here I think.
The point is that Trump is also a liberal, 3 years ago Trump was calling for a world with no borders. He will put liberals on the court too and he supports restrictions on guns too (No Fly, No Buy and stop n frisk to "take away their guns" - notice in each case no guilty verdict is required to take away guns).
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Republicans who vote Trump
Elect Democrats
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This article is a month old. Trump has spent the last week throwing away whatever capital he had built. It is on him, not us.
Meanwhile, here's Trumpkin in full panic mode:
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@sinkspur
He, and the rest of them, should have chosen more wisely. *shrug*
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
@Bill Martin
Oh, I did everything I could to try and make sure we would have a Constitutional conservative as our nominee. But others had stars in their eyes over a game show host.
You haven't opened a Bible if you think Trump doesn't fit its definition of evil.
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Mr. Priebus, my reply:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkMO2gcS5ag
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Precisely why I keep fighting Trumpism. We need a party that supports the Constitution and limited government. That party has been hi-jacked this year by alt-right xenophobes who don't give a damn about the cause of human liberty. I WANT IT BACK.
Here's another Reagan quote:
If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen.
Ronald Reagan
Now, let's see if we can apply Reagan's wisdom to the current distorted paradigm surrounding this election, in particular as it relates to the nonstop hair-on-fire criticism of the Republican nominee and of his supporters; or how it might also relate even to your democrat co-workers, your family and friends.
This ain't your grandfather's America no mo'. Shall we delve?
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Here's another Reagan quote:
If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen.
Ronald Reagan
Now, let's see if we can apply Reagan's wisdom to the current distorted paradigm surrounding this election, in particular as it relates to the nonstop hair-on-fire criticism of the Republican nominee and of his supporters; or how it might also relate even to your democrat co-workers, your family and friends.
This ain't your grandfather's America no mo'. Shall we delve?
All our countrymen?
Your god would disapprove of that. Immigrants aren't American. Nor can their descendents. His remarks on Judge Curiel are proof.
Your children are not American to Trump and his alt-right goons.
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Here's another Reagan quote:
If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen.
Ronald Reagan
Now, let's see if we can apply Reagan's wisdom to the current distorted paradigm surrounding this election, in particular as it relates to the nonstop hair-on-fire criticism of the Republican nominee and of his supporters; or how it might also relate even to your democrat co-workers, your family and friends.
This ain't your grandfather's America no mo'. Shall we delve?
@aligncare
How far down into the muck do you want to "delve?" To Trump's appearance in a porn flick? To his deeply inappropriate and seemingly routine remarks about his daughter ( “Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”)?
Or we can dig down deeper into the dirt to his remark about his attempts to avoid gonorrhea, syphilis, AIDS, etc.: “I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”
My father was in the military. I was born over twenty years after he came home from war, but I know about the struggles he went through to overcome his PTSD due to his battlefield experiences. He was a brave soldier. Donald Trump is a piece of gutter filth who isn't fit to shine my father's shoes.
You would have to literally put a gun to my head to get me to cast a vote for that piece of human garbage.
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I took it as a CONSERVATIVE website not party first bootlickers.
Sir, you are incorrect, despite the nostalgic photo of Reagan. If I am not mistaken we are not specifically a conservative website. Of, course I'm always open to being corrected--a favorite past time here.
And besides, you're also wrong about myself as a Trump supporter. Several months back I switched political affiliation to "unaffiliated." I would be supporting Donald Trump whatever party he ran in. And, to whit, in fact, it was noted during the primaries that Donald Trump seem to be running a third-party campaign within the Republican Party.
In any event, I support Donald Trump because he's got the best skills, personality and heart for the job at this moment in history. Period. I lick no one's boots.
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Sir, you are incorrect, despite the nostalgic photo of Reagan. If I am not mistaken we are not specifically a conservative website. Of, course I'm always open to being corrected--a favorite past time here.
And besides, you're also wrong about myself as a Trump supporter. Several months back I switched political affiliation to "unaffiliated." I would be supporting Donald Trump whatever party he ran in. And, to whit, in fact, it was noted during the primaries that Donald Trump seem to be running a third-party campaign within the Republican Party.
In any event, I support Donald Trump because he's got the best skills, personality and heart for the job at this moment in history. Period. I lick no one's boots.
Yea you do. And you stupidly pull race cards when things arent going your way. Twofer!
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Hillary Clinton will be a fatal blow for many of us. It is incredibly naive to think the nation can withstand another President as bad or worse (worse is my bet) than Obama.
@DiogenesLamp
Then so be it, you and the crossover dems thought that one of those NY Liberal's would suffice, I refuse to Acknowledge your rational.
So all I got to say is Let's do it now, while my Legs are still Fresh and my Powders DRY!
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@DiogenesLamp
Then so be it, you and the crossover dems thought that one of those NY Liberal's would suffice, I refuse to Acknowledge your rational.
So all I got to say is Let's do it now, while my Legs are still Fresh and my Powders DRY!
They know history will lay the blame on the idiots that put a liberal in as the GOP standard bearer. They are flailing for a life preserver.
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I can understand someone taking a risk and voting for Trump if for the only reason they find Clinton to be a worse chance to take. I won't fault someone who calls themselves conservative for that
I don't get embracing everything he does and never questioning or thinking beyond Jan 2017. Embracing new entitlements and more spending isn't a conservative position
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I can understand someone taking a risk and voting for Trump if for the only reason they find Clinton to be a worse chance to take. I won't fault someone who calls themselves conservative for that
I don't get embracing everything he does and never questioning or thinking beyond Jan 2017. Embracing new entitlements and more spending isn't a conservative position
People that vote for a liberal are themselves a liberal. People that rape are rapists. People that murder are murderers. People that fish are fishermen. No way around that. Fear voting got us a house and senate filled with lesser evil that is not lesser. It's not conservative. It's suicidal.
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A significant portion of the people that voted for him in the primaries have no clue what a Liberal or a Conservative is. They know Reality TV.
Now the Republicans are stuck with ....But Hillary, and will vote the party line, which possibly, if Election History tells us anything, won't be enough.
I heard it all in 2008 and with much clarity in 2012, The whole party is FUBAR'd and we need to seek out Saner Alternatives.
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Thoughtful republicans aren't lemmings; they won't rush to vote party simply because the party puts a nominee in front of their noses. Thoughtful republicans aren't going to vote for a Clinton clone just because it has an 'R' after its name and is nominally a registered republican. Too bad the party - and the primary voters - didn't think about that one before they nominated someone only lemmings would vote for.
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Sir, you are incorrect, despite the nostalgic photo of Reagan. If I am not mistaken we are not specifically a conservative website.
At least we're clear now that Trump supporters aren't Conservatives.
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@aligncare
You would have to literally put a gun to my head to get me to cast a vote for that piece of human garbage.
Well the good news is that you will likely end up with a gun to your head for not doing it. That Hillary Gestapo can be pretty mean.
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@DiogenesLamp
Then so be it, you and the crossover dems thought that one of those NY Liberal's would suffice, I refuse to Acknowledge your rational.
So all I got to say is Let's do it now, while my Legs are still Fresh and my Powders DRY!
Yes, fighting the Nazis will be so much more fun than preventing them from ever seizing power in the first place!
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Well the good news is that you will likely end up with a gun to your head for not doing it. That Hillary Gestapo can be pretty mean.
Sorry, @DiogenesLamp, I'm not much into conspiracy theories. But I'll note that a gun to my head is "good news" to you.
Time to unite!
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A significant portion of the people that voted for him in the primaries have no clue what a Liberal or a Conservative is. They know Reality TV.
Now the Republicans are stuck with ....But Hillary, and will vote the party line, which possibly, if Election History tells us anything, won't be enough.
I heard it all in 2008 and with much clarity in 2012, The whole party is FUBAR'd and we need to seek out Saner Alternatives.
The whole nation is FUBAR'd and we are not going to get any "saner" alternatives. The alternatives range from kooky, nuts, crazy, stark raving mad, psychotic, and Hillary Clinton.
What I can guarantee is that you aren't going to like the result of this next election. Now you can chose to not like it a lot, or you can chose to not like it on the level of "oh my God I can't believe we are going through these horrors!"
But look on the bright side. At least we can pretend we are fighting in the French Underground and this is world war II! Of course, nowadays the Nazis have drones, cameras, satellites, Google, and an army of people who hate you.
So the odds are a little worse than they were for the French Underground.
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Sorry, @DiogenesLamp, I'm not much into conspiracy theories. But I'll note that a gun to my head is "good news" to you.
Time to unite!
Conspiracy theory? What is conspiracy about it? Hillary will behave exactly as she has always behaved, but this time with the ultimate power of the State behind her.
And no, I don't want a gun to your head. That's why i'm voting against Hillary.
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Yes, fighting the Nazis will be so much more fun than preventing them from ever seizing power in the first place!
Unless you call this 'FIGHT', cause this is what America did in Nominating a NY liberal to run against another NY liberal...
Kick the can down the road....
Brilliant, and unfortunately the same results:
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A significant portion of the people that voted for him in the primaries have no clue what a Liberal or a Conservative is. They know Reality TV.
Yes, and quite a few were totally aware of what they were doing. "That GOPe is asking for a Trump, and by God, they're gonna get him!" It was arson. They knew full well that it would destroy the party's chances in November. Now some of the very same malcontents accuse the rest of us of supporting Hillary Clinton. It gets them off. I bet they will return in 4 years to stick us with some other cartoon character, like Sarah Palin or Paul LePage. The party had better put some adults in charge of the nominating process, or they will fade into oblivion.
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Thanks for the response. What about the Justices she'll appoint, and the legalization/voting rights for illegals? Those really weren't issues in 1980.
The immigration issue wasn't a 1980 issue, but there was always a concern about Supreme Court justices even
then, though you couldn't predict when a replacement would need to be nominated. That said, I trust neither
Hilarious Rodent Clinton nor Donaldus Minimus to appoint justices who will construe the Constitution
reasonably. And I'm not convinced that Donaldus Minimus has the capacity to navigate the illegal immigration
issue sensibly and/or constitutionally, either.
And demographically, we're not in 1980 any more.
I did say the next prospective truly rightward candidate wouldn't be another Mr. Reagan. I had that demographic and other
factors in mind.
In Reagan's day, there was a split between the parties, but also a large swath of undecided voters -- the potential "Reagan Democrats". Now, those people are all part of the GOP, but the electorate otherwise has shifted. You have far more single females, who lean heavily left, and far more minorities. Those are core Democrat constituencies that lean overwhelming left, and they also get a majority of government employees, academics, people in the arts, etc..
I suspect there will come a different breed of undecided voter, now and in the years to come. We have two candidates who are
distinctly unpalatable to a fair majority of voters this time around; you have surely noticed the overwhelming collective disapproval
toward both major party candidates. We may very well see a near hybrid of rightward and leftward voters among the undecideds.
If so, the right will have serious work to do, now and after the election. Especially if---let us hypothesise---I prove right and,
should she be elected, a President Hilarious Rodent Clinton alienates even her own party (it's very possible) and leaves the
Democratic factions you noted in the lurch.
I just don't see a path if the illegals get the vote, and that does seem to be one issue on which Hillary and the Dems seem united. And why not? It basically locks them up long term.
Again assuming we're facing a President Hilarious Rodent Clinton (it could happen, never mind that one wishes for neither
a Hilarious or Donaldus Minimus presidency), watch the downtickets and then watch Crapola Hill. She may not have quite
so simple a Congressional ride as one suspects. The particular issues are different now than then, of course, but it wasn't
very long before the presumably unstoppable Jimmy Carter alienated even his own party. Who's to say a President Hilarious
wouldn't, either? (Remember, there are many who think a President Donaldus would alienate the Republican Party in due
course . . . and there'd be nothing to stop Hilarious from training her guns on even those in her own party who might
deviate even a single degree from Her Ladyship's writ . . . )
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You are missing the point here I think. IF Clinton gets in amnesty will be granted and millions of Muslims will be allowed into this country dramatically increasing the number of DEM voters...it doesn't really matter how many DEMS Hillary angers; the DEM electorate will grossly outnumber the GOP electorate and certainly those who were granted amnesty/refugee status aren't going to vote for the opposite party. That's not hypothetical, that's fact.
If---big if---she gets elected, watch Congress. And watch to see if they have the stones to stand up and declare
in assorted ways that Obama II will not stand. (I'm not holding my breath but one can hope.)
She will undoubtedly appoint liberal justices tilting the decisions of the SCOTUS to the left; 2nd amendment rights in particular.
I trust neither Donaldus Minimus nor Hilarious Rodent Clinton to appoint justices who will construe the
Constitution reasonably. These are two people to whom the Constitution is inconvenient applesauce.
To compare the Carter years to the upcoming Clinton years is like comparing a tropical storm to a Tsunami.
The particular issues are quite different, and you make a certain demographic adjustment now, but if Hilarious
is elected it could very well prove to yield up a comparable backlash. (Certain demographics shifted in the Carter
years, too, which certainly didn't hurt Reagan in 1980.)
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I'm laughing at the imbecility of those whom insist Hillary is a NAZI and worst tyrant the planet has ever seen, and think their VOTE is going to somehow stop her from achieving power.
Because as you all know, elections in the hands of tyrants and Nazis are always honest, without fraud and checked and balanced.
What a bunch of maroons!
Oh, and I grow more certain each passing day due statements from Trump and the threats from his militant thugs, that Trump is far worse than Hillary will be in the tyranny and oppression department.
She has a thicker skin than he does apparently, even if she is demonically possessed.
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If I may offer my two cents....
I think there are reasonable grounds for disagreement as to whether or not Trump is better than Hillary. We all have our own opinions on that, but I think it's a reasonable debate to have. If they are "equal evils", then there is no point in opposing one more than the other.
But that's different from arguments that those who don't vote for Trump bear no responsibility if Hillary wins. If someone views Trump as the lesser evil, but nevertheless refuses to support him against a greater evil, then those people have some responsibility for the consequences of that decision. And I suspect that in other contexts, most of us would reject out of hand the argument that standing by and doing nothing in the face of something bad is a morally sound choice. Hence, the Edmund Burke quote on how/why evil can triumph.
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I read this three times.
Brilliant.
Thank you sir.
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The GOP has pretty much become a carbon-copy of the Democrats where the 'big tent' has been replaced by the Borg collective.
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Norm wrote:
"Liar."
No.
You be the one tellin' the lie here.
He spoke the truth.
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I am voting for Evan McMullin. You elected the Donald. You vote for him. I can tell you exactly what is happening. Trump made sure Hillary wins. Its happening. He's going down and we all told you it would happen. You made excuses, and "believe me" nobody can be that stupid. Not even Trump. He sabotaged his own campaign.
Trump gets Hillary elected and he get favors. Its the Art of the Deal.
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What I can guarantee is that you aren't going to like the result of this next election.
Well, that was then: the parties tried selling us snake oil. This is now: they're selling us the snakes.
The more I talk about it and the more I listen to about it, here and elsewhere, the more I thank God my state has,
if not a write-in option, a "None of These Candidates" option. It's the only option I can vote without wanting to puke.
Vote it, then pray. Hard.
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Norm wrote:
"Liar."
No.
You be the one tellin' the lie here.
He spoke the truth.
Except for the fact that he didn't.
I can't say it surprises me that you Trumpers are so desperate to convince people that the way elections have worked since day 1 isn't the way they work with your guy so thoroughly tanking the election. If you could somehow bottle your ability to circumvent reality, it could be a breakthrough in treating people addicted to hallucinogenics. All the reality distortion and none of the side effects.
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I read this three times.
I have a vision of you as Jim Ignatowski taking his written Test at the DMV.
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Time to unite!
Who are you trying to "unite", and behind whom/what? I thought that was the purpose of the primaries. Now, I'm not saying people are morally compelled to vote for the nominee -- I don't even think other GOP politicians are morally bound to do that. But the truth is the primary is our chance to select a candidate whom we can (hopefully) unit behind, and this time, that process failed to produce such a candidate. So there is no other figure behind whom to unit politically.
Which leaves me confused as to what you meant by urging "unity".
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If I may offer my two cents....
I think there are reasonable grounds for disagreement as to whether or not Trump is better than Hillary. We all have our own opinions on that, but I think it's a reasonable debate to have. If they are "equal evils", then there is no point in opposing one more than the other.
But that's different from arguments that those who don't vote for Trump bear no responsibility if Hillary wins. If someone views Trump as the lesser evil, but nevertheless refuses to support him against a greater evil, then those people have some responsibility for the consequences of that decision. And I suspect that in other contexts, most of us would reject out of hand the argument that standing by and doing nothing in the face of something bad is a morally sound choice. Hence, the Edmund Burke quote on how/why evil can triumph.
Yes, the Mad-Hatter-Trump-Haters continue to operate, behave, as if we are still in the middle of primaries. But, as I look at the scoreboard, it's the bottom of the ninth. Seventh inning stretch was a long time ago and we, America, need to win this.
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Yes, the Mad-Hatter-Trump-Haters continue to operate, behave, as if we are still in the middle of primaries. But, as I look at the scoreboard, it's the bottom of the ninth. Seventh inning stretch was a long time ago and we, America, need to win this.
Tell it to your candidate.
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Who are you trying to "unite", and behind whom/what? I thought that was the purpose of the primaries. Now, I'm not saying people are morally compelled to vote for the nominee -- I don't even think other GOP politicians are morally bound to do that. But the truth is the primary is our chance to select a candidate whom we can (hopefully) unit behind, and this time, that process failed to produce such a candidate. So there is no other figure behind whom to unit politically.
Which leaves me confused as to what you meant by urging "unity".
@Maj. Bill Martin
It was sarcasm.
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Who are you trying to "unite", and behind whom/what? I thought that was the purpose of the primaries. Now, I'm not saying people are morally compelled to vote for the nominee -- I don't even think other GOP politicians are morally bound to do that. But the truth is the primary is our chance to select a candidate whom we can (hopefully) unit behind, and this time, that process failed to produce such a candidate. So there is no other figure behind whom to unit politically.
Which leaves me confused as to what you meant by urging "unity".
They want us all to unite behind "not him." :silly:
The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. These people hate, that's their only political rationale, hate. And, here's the kicker, they don't actually, truly know the source of their hatred –since they have sometimes inadvertently admitted they haven't researched Donald Trump's history with an objective eye. In fact they proudly announced that they assiduously avoid reading any information about Donald Trump that might be positive. How's that for astute political research?
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They want us all to unite behind "not him." :silly:
The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. These people hate, that's their only political rationale, hate. And, here's the kicker, they don't actually, truly know the source of their hatred –since they have sometimes inadvertently admitted they haven't researched Donald Trump's history with an objective eye. In fact they proudly announced that they assiduously avoid reading any information about Donald Trump that might be positive. How's that for astute political research?
You say the strangest things. Perhaps it's short term memory loss. Because I know you've been told that we arent voting for your liberal no matter what you blather about. Maybe your desire to elect a liberal is so overwhelming that you are blinded to being told 'No". Or maybe you just like acting like a spoiled child. Doesn't matter why though.
Because you can't win without us and you said you don't need us. So spare yourself the grief and effort and just accept the consequence of forcing a liberal onto the GOP ticket. You refuse to vote for a conservative so get used to President Clinton. Thats all on you.
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These people hate, that's their only political rationale, hate.
Well, I wouldn't presume to read everyone's minds - different people have different motivations. But I do think a lot of the NeverTrump people are enormously frustrated -- they saw this as a great opportunity for us to win this election with a good candidate, and feel that we've squandered that chance. I'm assuming that because I share that feeling myself to a large extent. I'm just trying to make some chicken salad out of....yeah. Because the reality is that's the only ingredient in the shopping cart at this point.
I do think one thing that's going on isn't hatred, but rather what is sometimes referred to as "virtue-signaling." Pointing out publicly, loudly and often, how rotten Donald Trump is serves as a means of signaling to others "see, I'm a good person because I don't support Trump." Makes you part of the good guys club. Not saying that's true of everyone, but I think there's at least some of that going on.
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I am voting for Evan McMullin. You elected the Donald. You vote for him. I can tell you exactly what is happening. Trump made sure Hillary wins. Its happening. He's going down and we all told you it would happen. You made excuses, and "believe me" nobody can be that stupid. Not even Trump. He sabotaged his own campaign.
Trump gets Hillary elected and he get favors. Its the Art of the Deal.
Absolutely. What we've been warning about is coming true right before our eyes....just as we said it would. Trump is deliberately tanking his own campaign.
Poor Pence. He actually thought he had a chance to be VP. Instead, he will go down in history as just another one 'Duped by Donald'.
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Sorry, @DiogenesLamp, I'm not much into conspiracy theories. But I'll note that a gun to my head is "good news" to you.
Time to unite!
It's ironic that Diogenes makes the "Nazi" reference to Hillary (Godwin's Law), yet completely ignores the comments Trump has made that make him sound just as fascist and dangerous to our liberties as any Clinton would be. And....you know.....Trump is, after all, of German descent, kept Hitler's book on his nightstand (according to the ex wife), and has quoted Mussolini in a retweet ("“It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep.”").....and Trump's populism has been fueled by his penchant for riling up and igniting his loyal followers via the same brand of nationalism...to the point of encouraging violence against any anti-Trump protestors.
Bottom line.....Hillary may well be the devil, but Trump is her main minion.
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...and igniting his loyal followers
Oh how you tease.
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If I may offer my two cents....
I think there are reasonable grounds for disagreement as to whether or not Trump is better than Hillary. We all have our own opinions on that, but I think it's a reasonable debate to have. If they are "equal evils", then there is no point in opposing one more than the other.
But that's different from arguments that those who don't vote for Trump bear no responsibility if Hillary wins. If someone views Trump as the lesser evil, but nevertheless refuses to support him against a greater evil, then those people have some responsibility for the consequences of that decision. And I suspect that in other contexts, most of us would reject out of hand the argument that standing by and doing nothing in the face of something bad is a morally sound choice. Hence, the Edmund Burke quote on how/why evil can triumph.
It's important to clarify that I am not "doing nothing" on election day. I am voting for a man who shares my values on life and government. What I am not doing is participating in the evil of voting for either of the two candidates who not only do not share but actually oppose every value I have.
I refuse to vote for evil, therefore I refuse to vote for trump.
It is the people who voted for trump in the primary who are giving us Hillary.
I have no part in it. The liberal Trumpists do.
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It's important to clarify that I am not "doing nothing" on election day. I am voting for a man who shares my values on life and government. What I am not doing is participating in the evil of voting for either of the two candidates who not only do not share but actually oppose every value I have.
I refuse to vote for evil, therefore I refuse to vote for trump.
It is the people who voted for trump in the primary who are giving us Hillary.
I have no part in it. The liberal Trumpists do.
It really has to tear them up that some of us will never let them dictate the narrative. They arent used to having to fight for their 'beliefs'. They hate being told 'no' even more.
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Oh how you tease.
Umm.....
huh?
Did I say something wrong? :shrug:
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Umm.....
huh?
Did I say something wrong? :shrug:
Not at all. I just found the line about igniting his followers entertaining. Winter is coming and all. Throw another Trumper on the fire ;)
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They want us all to unite behind "not him." :silly:
Guess I'm going to have to use a rolling banner---*SARCASM*---next time.
The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. These people hate, that's their only political rationale, hate.
You sound exactly like a liberal with that nonsense. Much of the problem is that it's based on emotionalism. You can't bear the fact that some won't bend the knee to "Mr. Trump."
And, here's the kicker, they don't actually, truly know the source of their hatred –since they have sometimes inadvertently admitted they haven't researched Donald Trump's history with an objective eye. In fact they proudly announced that they assiduously avoid reading any information about Donald Trump that might be positive. How's that for astute political research?
Really? I haven't seen anyone say that.
I've said more than once that I always disliked Trump on the basis of being a gasbag braggart, but it took research into the man for me to find him repellent.
So there's another theory blown to hell, I guess.
@aligncare
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Not at all. I just found the line about igniting his followers entertaining. Winter is coming and all. Throw another Trumper on the fire ;)
Lol! Oh, ok.....just checkin. Tis the season, after all. And....
beware of the Great Pumpkin!
(http://www.homecrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/20-Donald-Trumpkins-scaring-off-trick-o-treaters-this-Halloween_4.jpg)
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So there's another theory blown to hell, I guess.
Well you know...after he fell flat with the race card thing yesterday, he had to make something else up. Thats what Team Trump does afterall. Hop from one false claim to another and project their failings on others.
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Guess I'm going to have to use a rolling banner---*SARCASM*---next time.
You sound exactly like a liberal with that nonsense. Much of the problem is that it's based on emotionalism. You can't bear the fact that some won't bend the knee to "Mr. Trump."
Really? I haven't seen anyone say that.
I've said more than once that I always disliked Trump on the basis of being a gasbag braggart, but it took research into the man for me to find him repellent.
So there's another theory blown to hell, I guess.
@aligncare
@CatherineofAragon
It's amazing how much many have adopted the language of the left when it comes to defending Trump. Be it on the minimum wage, healthcare, spending, mandated maternity leave, trade, 1st Amendment,or just everyday debate language more and more they have become indistinguishable from the DNC. I don't think they even realize it in their quest to defend the guy
I don't hate Trump. I just have decided he and his ideas are not the fix for this nation. In fact, should he win, I'm willing to bet that he won't be all that different from BHO on many issues. Both he and Hillary will be BHO's third term.
But the harsh reality is, despite the promise of more spending and programs by Hillary and Trump, math and the market will either make them face reality or other's in the future.
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Lol! Oh, ok.....just checkin. Tis the season, after all. And....
beware of the Great Pumpkin!
(http://www.homecrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/20-Donald-Trumpkins-scaring-off-trick-o-treaters-this-Halloween_4.jpg)
Mark my words. Someone will do a Trump pumpkin, someone will smash it and the alt righters will flood the net screaming about violence and hate crimes.
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Absolutely. What we've been warning about is coming true right before our eyes....just as we said it would. Trump is deliberately tanking his own campaign.
So why be complicit in that by not voting for him? Isn't the best way to defeat that plan to vote for Trump, then try to get rid of him so Pence takes over?
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So why be complicit in that by not voting for him? Isn't the best way to defeat that plan to vote for Trump, then try to get rid of him so Pence takes over?
Because someone that thinks that carrying out that idiocy is a good idea, is as big a problem as Trump is for America.
Do you think about what you post? You want to seriously elect a hard liberal that has already backtracked on all his big issues (which is in an of itself completely crazy) on the HOPE that he's gonna be impeached by the people campaigning for him or that he somehow has an issue that ends his presidency?
Have you thought how remote a possibility that actually is? Or are you simply grasping in desperation for anything that might cause some unthinking voter to hop on board Or because you finially did the math and realized that after he alienated most of the women in the country that Trump is further than ever from getting the votes he needs?
No matter. Us conservatives arent needed (Remember?) and arent voting for him. Which, strangely, is WHY he doesn't have the numbers to win.
Learn from your mistake. Support a conservative next time. Until then, enjoy what you helped bring down on America.
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Not at all. I just found the line about igniting his followers entertaining. Winter is coming and all. Throw another Trumper on the fire ;)
Sitting in a bunker here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come
In perfect isolation here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come
Waiting to cut out the deadwood
Waiting to clean up the city
Waiting to follow the worms
Waiting to put on a black shirt
Waiting to weed out the weaklings
Waiting to smash in their windows
And kick in their doors
Waiting for the final solution
To strengthen the strain
Waiting to follow the worms
Waiting to turn on the showers
And fire the ovens
Waiting for the queens and the coons
And the reds and the Jews
Waiting to follow the worms
Would you like to see Britannia
Rule again, my friend?
All you have to do is follow the worms
Would you like to send our colored cousins
Home again, my friend?
All you need to do is follow the worms
-R. Waters-
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Sitting in a bunker here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come
In perfect isolation here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come
I'm more a traditionalist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDqbbf6ewk
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Do you think about what you post? You want to seriously elect a hard liberal that has already backtracked on all his big issues (which is in an of itself completely crazy) on the HOPE that he's gonna be impeached by the people campaigning for him or that he somehow has an issue that ends his presidency?
Have you thought how remote a possibility that actually is? Or are you simply grasping in desperation for anything that might cause some unthinking voter to hop on board Or because you finially did the math and realized that after he alienated most of the women in the country that Trump is further than ever from getting the votes he needs?
No matter. Us conservatives arent needed (Remember?) and arent voting for him. Which, strangely, is WHY he doesn't have the numbers to win.
Learn from your mistake. Support a conservative next time. Until then, enjoy what you helped bring down on America.
Very well stated.
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I'm more a traditionalist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDqbbf6ewk
Sounds like something from the soundtrack of the movie Brazil.
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Sounds like something from the soundtrack of the movie Brazil.
The Ink Spots got a resurgence when they were used in the Fallout video game soundtracks
"It's all over but the crying" and a couple others were used as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Co-VST_go
Although I like Megadeth's use of STWOF as an intro too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAvlB7eTXGA
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Because someone that thinks that carrying out that idiocy is a good idea, is as big a problem as Trump is for America.
Do you think about what you post? You want to seriously elect a hard liberal....
I don't think Trump really has many (or perhaps any) hard political beliefs at all. That's why he waffles. I think he likes the idea of being President, but other than perhaps caring about some things like terrorism, I think he's pretty squishy. It's not exactly like he's devoted his life to intense political thought, is it? As you just said, he's an idiot.
But he's running against someone who isn't an idiot. She's a hardline, fascistic progressive who knows exactly what she wants, and will have the power structure to do implement it.
Given a choice between the idiot and the intelligent, progressive fascist building upon 8 straight years of leftist rule, I'll take the former ten times out of ten.
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I don't think Trump really has many (or perhaps any) hard political beliefs at all. That's why he waffles. I think he likes the idea of being President, but other than perhaps caring about some things like terrorism, I think he's pretty squishy. It's not exactly like he's devoted his life to intense political thought, is it? As you just said, he's an idiot.
But he's running against someone who isn't an idiot. She's a hardline, fascistic progressive who knows exactly what she wants, and will have the power structure to do implement it.
Given a choice between the idiot and the intelligent, progressive fascist building upon 8 straight years of leftist rule, I'll take the former ten times out of ten.
But you have another choice and you refuse to exercise it. Thats fine. You are fully within your rights to try electing any liberal you like. However oonce you start advocating others do the same, you arent any different from anyone else who does likewise. Like Hillary. She ALSO advocates people elect liberals.
Ultimately you are trying to elect a lifetime liberal. It doesn't matter a bit who that liberal is or what other liberal is running on another ticket. You will get one brand of liberalism or another. Both brands are completely anti-American. Both present a serious danger to Constitutional government. There's zero point arguing against those facts because we have multiple examples of both Trump and Hillary backing completely unAmerican policies. Touchback Amnesty. Open borders. Gun control. 1A abridgement. Hate crime laws that place homosexuality and transexuals above people of faith.
If you campaign for it/them, you are equally complicit in it. And since you have a choice to vote for other people, then if you DO vote for a Hillary or a Trump, then clearly your actions show you want what they offer. No excuses are acceptable when your vote, your most powerful and important action as an American, appears alongside the box that empowers someone working against this country.
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Yes, the Mad-Hatter-Trump-Haters continue to operate, behave, as if we are still in the middle of primaries. But, as I look at the scoreboard, it's the bottom of the ninth. Seventh inning stretch was a long time ago and we, America, need to win this.
Sorry, but there's no "win" possible. Clinton will be a walking disaster, and so will Trump. And Trump's potentially a hell of a lot more dangerous because of his inability to listen to advice or accept criticism, coupled with his narcissistic impulsiveness.
Best thing we can do is try to save conservatism as a viable alternative in American political life. I think that can be done, but only if Trumpism is repudiated.
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Mark my words. Someone will do a Trump pumpkin, someone will smash it and the alt righters will flood the net screaming about violence and hate crimes.
Hmmm.....smashing the Trumpkin in effigy. Good therapy. Yep. I can see that happening...a lot this month. (off to the store for the biggest pumpkin I can find)...
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Learn from your mistake. Support a conservative next time. Until then, enjoy what you helped bring down on America.
Try again.
I supported Rubio as the most conservative candidate I thought could win the general election. When he faltered, I supported Cruz. I was booted off FR because I wouldn't commit to supporting Trump after Cruz was out, and because I pointed out mistakes Trump was making. I am no more responsible than are you for Trump being the nominee. Perhaps less.
I didn't want Trump to be the nominee any more than you did. But the battle for the 2016 GOP nomination ended, and either Trump or Hillary is going to be President. So, like Cruz, I decided to do what I can to prevent Hillary from becoming President.
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Try again.
I supported Rubio as the most conservative candidate I thought could win the general election. When he faltered, I supported Cruz. I was booted off FR because I wouldn't commit to supporting Trump after Cruz was out, and because I pointed out mistakes Trump was making. I am no more responsible than are you for Trump being the nominee. Perhaps less.
I didn't want Trump to be the nominee any more than you did. But the battle for the 2016 GOP nomination ended, and either Trump or Hillary is going to be President. So, like Cruz, I decided to do what I can to prevent Hillary from becoming President.
I don't need to try again. you are backing a liberal. On Nov 8, you will vote for a liberal. It does not matter a tinkers dam if you dug up Reagan and cloned him a year ago. What you are doing -now- is damaging the future of conservatism in America and America itself by electing, intentionally, a mentally unstable liberal.
You COULD vote for someone else that is not a liberal but you refuse to. Trump will lose and still you refuse to plant the seeds for 2020 by empowering a third party today. So clearly you WANT a liberal. Clearly you WANT the damage that Trump will do to the presidency and this country. If you didn't, you would not give him your vote.
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You COULD vote for someone else that is not a liberal but you refuse to. Trump will lose and still you refuse to plant the seeds for 2020 by empowering a third party today. So clearly you WANT a liberal. Clearly you WANT the damage that Trump will do to the presidency and this country. If you didn't, you would not give him your vote.
Sure I do. Because it is impossible than anyone can disagree with your factual assessment, or see the prospects for a successful third party differently than you do. Instead, disagreement with @Norm Lenhart means that your motives and thoughts must be bad, and you must be a closet liberal bent on destroying the country.
Oh yeah, that sounds like a winner. I'm sure you'll get lots of support for your third party with that kind of attitude. I mean, that's assuming that you're really interesting in a successful third party rather than moral self-admiration and virtue signaling.
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Sure I do. Because it is impossible than anyone can disagree with your factual assessment, or see the prospects for a successful third party differently than you do. Instead, disagreement with @Norm Lenhart means that your motives and thoughts must be bad, and you must be a closet liberal bent on destroying the country.
Oh yeah, that sounds like a winner. I'm sure you'll get lots of support for your third party with that kind of attitude. I mean, that's assuming that you're really interesting in a successful third party rather than moral self-admiration and virtue signaling.
If you can factually disprove one word of what I posted, please do. Because using leftist language is not gonna win you the argument with anyone but other Trump supporters.
So by all means. FACTUALLY and with EVIDENCE show where I was wrong in my statements. Not what YOU WANT me to be wrong about. Prove anything I actually WAS wrong about.
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I don't think Trump really has many (or perhaps any) hard political beliefs at all.
Yes, he does. He's a liberal. He supports "stimulus" (Obama's wasn't nearly big enough). corporate bailouts, Kelo, affirmative action, planned parenthood (he's paid for plenty of abortions), trannies in the girls room, gay rights all the way etc etc. He thinks healthcare should be paid for by the government.
His political donation history is not a fluke. He only donated to Republicans who are liberals or facing conservatives in primaries.
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If you can factually disprove one word of what I posted, please do.
That's utter nonsense. You are inferring evil motive because someone disagrees with your position. That excludes the possibility that they are simply wrong on the facts, and are making an honest, if misguided, error. Therefore, it is up to you to prove that it is impossible for anyone to be making an honest mistake of fact. Good luck with that.
So by all means. FACTUALLY and with EVIDENCE show where I was wrong in my statements.
On top of that, your statements weren't even facts -- they were opinions, or at best, inferences you drew from facts. For example:
What you are doing -now- is damaging the future of conservatism in America and America itself by electing, intentionally, a mentally unstable liberal.
I also would be keeping from office a mentally stable, intelligent, aggressive liberal who would have the full backing of a powerful political party, as well as control of the courts. That is a "fact" as well. You cannot fairly evaluate the consequences of my vote without considering all of the consequences. In light of that, whether or not my vote "damages the future of conservatism" is opinion, not fact.
Trump will lose and still you refuse to plant the seeds for 2020 by empowering a third party today.
First, "Trump will lose" is a prediction, not a fact, and therefore cannot be either proven or disproven until election day.
Second, your statement contains an unproven, unargued assumption/inference -- that there is a reasonable possibility for a third party to win in 2020. That can be neither proven nor disproven since it is a prediction of a future event. Personally, I think there is a better chance of Zombie Reagan rising from the dead than for a third party to be successful. I'd give two reasons:
1) There has never been a successful third party Presidential movement since the widespread adoption of the primary system. The reasons for that are obvious -- any candidate who is within the mainstream of politics can compete for, and win, the nomination of one of the two major parties. Any candidate whose views are so extreme that they could not successfully compete in such a primary would, by definition, not have enough support to win the general election. To the extent candidates at any level have had success, it is because such campaigns were based around a single, charismatic candidate who chose not to run for the nomination of either party. Ross Perot and Jesse Ventura did not achieve the degree of success they did because they were members of the Reform Party -- the Reform Party achieved the success it did because of them. Therefore, the goal shouldn't be to find another party, but simply to find better candidates.
2) The likelihood of illegals being granted legalized status (approved by the Supreme Court through executive action rather than by Congress), and the rapid extension of the franchise to those millions of progressive-leaning voters, will make future electoral success by any non-progressive candidate virtually impossible. The packing of the electorate likely will be accompanied by a reversal of []iCitizens United[/I], and a resulting clampdown on independent expenditures by conservatives trying to be heard. That may well be accompanied by a revival of the Fairness Doctrine that would further limit the dissemination of views anathema to the progressive government. In such an environment, not only would the GOP be at a major disadvantage, but third parties likely would be squeezed out completely.
In other words, even my Zombified Reagan won't have a chance in 2020 if Hillary gets in.
So, for me, when I combine 1) and 2), I conclude that advocacy of a third party must be part of a left-wing masterplan to further fracture any possible opposition to the progressive powers. A splintering of any significant number of conservatives would be the final nail in the coffin to any opposition to the progressive establishment. Which, I suppose, makes you the liberal.
But I don't believe you actually are a liberal. I just think your predictions are wrong, for the reasons stated.
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That's utter nonsense.
I stopped right there. When you show that demonstrated fact is utter nonsense, ping me. Because regardless of any excuses you concoct, people voting for liberals empower liberals. Liberals are responsible for the damage that has been done to America. If you support a liberal, YOU are a liberal. YOU caused that damage.
Excuses and creative writing exercizes don't alter those facts.
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I stopped right there. When you show that demonstrated fact....
When you learn that opinions and predictions as to future events are not actually facts, you can ping me right back.
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When you learn that opinions and predictions as to future events are not actually facts, you can ping me right back.
Ping!
Trump's actions are in the past. Thats what a 'liberal record' is. It's how we know he's a liberal.
Again: Regardless of any excuses you concoct, people voting for liberals empower liberals. Liberals are responsible for the damage that has been done to America. If you support a liberal, YOU are a liberal. YOU caused that damage.
Excuses and creative writing exercizes don't alter those facts.
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Ping!
Trump's actions are in the past. .
But you're "facts" included that "he will lose" in November, and that a third party has a decent chance at being successful in 2020 if I vote for it today. None of those "facts" are "proven" by Trump's past. They're just you're own personal, unproven predictions.
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You are what you do.
You do what you are.
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But you're "facts" included that "he will lose" in November, and that a third party has a decent chance at being successful in 2020 if I vote for it today. None of those "facts" are "proven" by Trump's past. They're just you're own personal, unproven predictions.
Right now the math shows that he can't win. Thats math.
These are facts:
Donald just pissed off most women in America and the polls reflect the hit he took to an already skittish base. Add to that the conservative base he said he didn't need, both of which combined result in even less total support at present than Mitt Romney pulled. With that said...
Regardless of any excuses you concoct, people voting for liberals empower liberals. Liberals are responsible for the damage that has been done to America. If you support a liberal, YOU are a liberal. YOU caused that damage.
Excuses and creative writing exercizes don't alter those facts. If you can prove any one of those facts are not true and thus not facts, please do rather than diverting away from them. Yet again.
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I didn't want Trump to be the nominee any more than you did. But the battle for the 2016 GOP nomination ended, and either Trump or Hillary is going to be President. So, like Cruz, I decided to do what I can to prevent Hillary from becoming President.
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