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Schools Banning Lunches From Home To Push Socialist Agenda
Posted By Dave Jolly on Oct 21, 2013 | 309 Comments
How many of you carried lunches from home with you when you went to school? I lived on brown bag lunches through most of my school years including high school, college and through most of my working life. If I wanted to eat, I got up, fixed my lunch and carried it with me, as did millions of other people. One of the reasons I carried my lunch to school is that it was a lot cheaper than buying lunch in the cafeteria.
However, thanks to the dictatorial socialist policies of Michele Obama, the days of brown bag lunches are vanishing.
First I received an email with a link to the site of a deaf mom identified only as Linda. She posted that her son Zion is a very picky eater and would not eat the lunches provided by the school. A month earlier, Zion’s teacher sent a note home asking Linda to send lunches to school that Zion would eat because he wasn’t eating anything at the school. Linda gladly complied and started sending lunches to school with Zion that he would eat.
Then Linda received another note from the school informing her not to send any lunches from home unless she had a doctor’s note stating that it was necessary. Confused about the turn of events, she tried to call the health coordinator as the note stated, but could not get an answer or a response. Knowing that Zion would not eat the school provided lunch, she continued to pack a lunch and send it to school with her son.
Again, a note was sent home from the school with a handwritten message at the top from Zion’s teacher. The message stated:
“Please do not send a lunch to school unless a doctor’s note is sent it with connection with this letter.”
When I read this private website post, I wasn’t sure if it was real or not. I went searching on the internet for any other references to schools banning brown bag lunches from home and I found another occurrence.
This time it took place in Chicago at Little Village Academy, a public school on the West Side. Principal Elsa Carmona has banned students from bringing lunches from home. She explained saying:
“Nutrition wise, it is better for the children to eat at the school. It’s about the nutrition and the excellent quality food that they are able to serve (in the lunchroom). It’s milk versus a Coke. But with allergies and any medical issue, of course, we would make an exception.”
When a reporter showed up at the school to investigate the policy 7th grader Fernando Dominquez stood up in the lunchroom and loudly asked his fellow classmates:
“Who thinks the lunch is not good enough?”
Numerous students raised their hands and began loudly chanting:
“We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch!”
Fernando turned to the reporter and said:
“Do you see the situation?”
The school district says that the decision to ban lunches from home is up the individual principals and that they generally make their decision for the nutritional benefits of their students. But what they aren’t saying publicly is that by banning homemade lunches, it forces more students to take the school cafeteria lunches which means more money for the company that provides those lunches.
Although more students at Little Village Academy are taking school lunches, many of them are throwing all or most of the lunch into the garbage. Erica Martinez, a parent of a student at the school said:
“Some of the kids don’t like the food they give at our school for lunch or breakfast. So it would be a good idea if they could bring their lunch so they could at least eat something.”
The school may think they are providing a more nutritional lunch, but what good does it do if the students don’t eat it and throw most of it way? The end result is that more students are going hungry through the rest of the school day than they were before the ban on school lunches.
Michele Obama’s school lunch program is forcing more socialistic control over school children. Schools are taking the rights of the parents to feed and provide for their children away from them and giving more rights to the schools. Schools are controlling what the kids can and cannot eat often against parental wishes. Schools are monitoring the activities of students outside of school and punishing them for things that the school has no authority over and the courts are supporting the schools.
At the rate things are going, I expect more radical socialistic changes in the public schools under the Obama administration. If too many parents protest, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the parents lose custody of their children like what has been happening in Germany with parents who want to homeschool. It’s obvious that our current liberal leaders care nothing about constitutional rights, values or morals. The family institution is a hindrance to them and taking more control of our children is one of their main ways to destroy the family and it starts with seemingly little things like brown bag lunches.
Read more at http://lastresistance.com/3432/schools-banning-lunches-home-push-socialist-agenda/#9WU8ppMkicltLJjb.99
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This is another situation where parents should all ban together and fight this policy in their schools. What's scary is that most parents will comply and lose yet another freedom of choice.
Where is the outrage?
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I am fence sitting on this one. Not a comfortable place to be.
I taught in an inner city school. Over half our kids got free school lunches and breakfast in the winter (no, that policy never made sense, but it was policy). Others could buy or brown bag it. For a lot of the free school lunch kids, it was the only hot food they had during the week, and they would polish the plate. Not wildly healthy - heavy on the fried stuff and not many fresh veg - but there was some. Usual meal was a main (lasagne, liver and bacon, shepherds pie were the three biggest favorites) veggies from frozen, an apple or orange and a small pudding. The rule, heavily enforced by both the dinner ladies and staff on duty was that if it was on your tray it went down your throat. Sounds a bit draconian, put like that, but it worked. One very confused lad kept trying to eat his cutlery. I wish I was making that up - charming kid, but really not ready for secondary school!
We jumped 75 places in the annual school rankings in the first year of that policy, and the free lunch kids consistently outperformed the brown baggers, who would bring in a sad sandwich on plastic bread and a packet of potato chips.
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I don't have any test results such as better academic performance but you're missing the entire point.
It's my decision, not the school administrators, as to whether my child eats the school lunch or bags from home.
We have a weekly lunch menu posted and at times the school serves something my daughter doesn't like, just as we all have our likes and dislikes. I would hate to be forced to eat something I didn't like and my daughter deserves the same respect.
It's not up to the school administrators to tell me what I can't or can do with my child.
Forcing kids to eat something they don't like is a form of child abuse in my book!
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I don't have any test results such as better academic performance but you're missing the entire point.
It's my decision, not the school administrators, as to whether my child eats the school lunch or bags from home.
Exactly! I am so freaking tired of schools thinking they can dictate to parents what to feed their kids.
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I don't have any test results such as better academic performance but you're missing the entire point.
It's my decision, not the school administrators, as to whether my child eats the school lunch or bags from home.
We have a weekly lunch menu posted and at times the school serves something my daughter doesn't like, just as we all have our likes and dislikes. I would hate to be forced to eat something I didn't like and my daughter deserves the same respect.
It's not up to the school administrators to tell me what I can't or can do with my child.
Forcing kids to eat something they don't like is a form of child abuse in my book!
It's why we always had a choice of three mains. Not just the one. So there was something for everyone.
Now - your daughter is well looked after. That is a statement of fact, not a guess - I know you well enough by now to know that can be taken to the bank. If there is something coming up that she doesn't like, fine. Brown bag it. If there is something coming up on the menu that she loves, you wouldn't force her to brown bag it. You have the option. You love your daughter and will make the effort to see she is fed healthy, well, and stuff she enjoys (within reason - kids like McDonalds .....)
The kids I am thinking about - well, think of the Wire. Those sort of neighborhoods. The thought of anyone giving crap one about them was like a foreign language to them. All the teaching staff also ate in the cafeteria. Grab your food, grab a seat and talk to the kids while they ate. It was different in the 90s. We took our obligations a little more seriously than they are now.
That is why I am on the fence.
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I think part of this has to do with children having food allergies. What one parent sends a child to school with can be very healthy for their child but deadly to a child with food allergies. When I was in high school, my neighbor who was a year older got special permission to eat her lunch in the faculty lounge. She was allergic to damn near everything.
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Back in the 1960s & 70s when I went to school the school lunches were actually damn good. I really liked them. On the other hand my mother was an awful cook, except for a couple of dishes that nobody could screw up on. So the school lunches really was my favorite meal of the day. There are actually web sites devoted to sharing recipes from school lunch menus of long ago.
But look what’s changed. Here is a current lunch menu from my son’s elementary.
WEDNESDAY
Pasta Alfredo or Turkey Deli on Flat Bread
THURSDAY
Cheesy Bread Sticks or Chicken Caesar Salad
FRIDAY
Yogart & Corn Muffin Plate or Nachos
You have two choices each day, both bad. And you wash this crap down with 1% milk. My son won’t eat it. He’s hungry when he gets home, and knowing he probably threw away his lunch I feed him again.
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Back in the 1960s & 70s when I went to school the school lunches were actually damn good. I really liked them. On the other hand my mother was an awful cook, except for a couple of dishes that nobody could screw up on. So the school lunches really was my favorite meal of the day. There are actually web sites devoted to sharing recipes from school lunch menus of long ago.
But look what’s changed. Here is a current lunch menu from my son’s elementary.
WEDNESDAY
Pasta Alfredo or Turkey Deli on Flat Bread
THURSDAY
Cheesy Bread Sticks or Chicken Caesar Salad
FRIDAY
Yogart & Corn Muffin Plate or Nachos
You have two choices each day, both bad. And you wash this crap down with 1% milk. My son won’t eat it. He’s hungry when he gets home, and knowing he probably threw away his lunch I feed him again.
That menu is as bad as what I saw in our local paper recently - they are pushing vegetarian flat bread rollups........ YUCK!!!
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Dang, Navy - that is barely even a snack! Especially for a boy who is probably burning 20,000 calories a day just at recess!
Seriously - nachos for lunch?
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That menu is as bad as what I saw in our local paper recently - they are pushing vegetarian flat bread rollups........ YUCK!!!
You drop on over some time. Might change your mind on those :)
Wife has been vegetarian for years. It isn't for kids - they need the protein - but they can be tasty :laugh:
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Back in the 1960s & 70s when I went to school the school lunches were actually damn good. I really liked them. On the other hand my mother was an awful cook, except for a couple of dishes that nobody could screw up on. So the school lunches really was my favorite meal of the day. There are actually web sites devoted to sharing recipes from school lunch menus of long ago.
But look what’s changed. Here is a current lunch menu from my son’s elementary.
WEDNESDAY
Pasta Alfredo or Turkey Deli on Flat Bread
THURSDAY
Cheesy Bread Sticks or Chicken Caesar Salad
FRIDAY
Yogart & Corn Muffin Plate or Nachos
You have two choices each day, both bad. And you wash this crap down with 1% milk. My son won’t eat it. He’s hungry when he gets home, and knowing he probably threw away his lunch I feed him again.
Exactly! Nothing wrong with a PB&J sandwich, cup of fruit and a handful of wheat thins.
Better for my daughter to eat it than waste money on food that goes in the trash.
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Contrast that menu with my favorites from our 1960s-70s cafeteria menu.
Meatloaf & potatoes
Sloppy Joes
Chili - always served with a big Cinnamon Roll
Turkey & Gravy over potatoes
Beef & Gravy over potaoes
Spaghetti
Wrapped Dogs and fries
Chili-Mac
And all of these came with a veggie, fruit or desert and 2% milk.
And with that every day my Mom still could not fatten me up. I can't imagine how my son can ever get out of the bottom 5% in weight class for his age. Skinny as a rail he is.
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You drop on over some time. Might change your mind on those :)
Wife has been vegetarian for years. It isn't for kids - they need the protein - but they can be tasty :laugh:
Sorry... I grew up on a farm and I'm a died in the wool meat eater. If I am feeling crappy a good steak perks me right up.
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Sorry... I grew up on a farm and I'm a died in the wool meat eater. If I am feeling crappy a good steak perks me right up.
Do you a deal. My best steak - cooked exactly how you like it - with veg wraps on the side :)
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Contrast that menu with my favorites from our 1960s-70s cafeteria menu.
Meatloaf & potatoes
Sloppy Joes
Chili - always served with a big Cinnamon Roll
Turkey & Gravy over potatoes
Beef & Gravy over potaoes
Spaghetti
Wrapped Dogs and fries
Chili-Mac
And all of these came with a veggie, fruit or desert and 2% milk.
And with that every day my Mom still could not fatten me up. I can't imagine how my son can ever get out of the bottom 5% in weight class for his age. Skinny as a rail he is.
Yep. That is the sort of menu we used to have. The rule was avoid the meatloaf - they never said what meat. We always assumed it was missing students.
It is different now. The dinner ladies were not defrosting and serving stuff from some central location - they cooked. Got annoyed if you didn't clean your plate either and were not shy of making the point even to teachers!
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Do you a deal. My best steak - cooked exactly how you like it - with veg wraps on the side :)
No deal... I'll have it with a salad, though.
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No deal... I'll have it with a salad, though.
You drive a hard bargain. Deal breaker if you want ketchup though - this is a mustard or horseradish household.
Seriously, though, you are welcome at our table any time.
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You drive a hard bargain. Deal breaker if you want ketchup though - this is a mustard or horseradish household.
Seriously, though, you are welcome at our table any time.
Ketchup? on STEAK??? wash your mouth out with soap... I don't even use steak sauce.
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Ketchup? on STEAK??? wash your mouth out with soap... I don't even use steak sauce.
I KNEW IT! One day, I was told I would find an American with taste!!!!!
We do different sauces. Bechemel with tarragon or cream pepper sauce mainly, if we want to be fancy. Sometimes the cheese sauce from the scalloped potatoes mixes in.
Most of the time as it comes off the griddle pan - bit of salt, bit of pepper and a splash of red wine or brandy during the cooking. Maybe a touch of butter (thank you Ina!) if it is a tougher cut.
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I KNEW IT! One day, I was told I would find an American with taste!!!!!
We do different sauces. Bechemel with tarragon or cream pepper sauce mainly, if we want to be fancy. Sometimes the cheese sauce from the scalloped potatoes mixes in.
Most of the time as it comes off the griddle pan - bit of salt, bit of pepper and a splash of red wine or brandy during the cooking. Maybe a touch of butter (thank you Ina!) if it is a tougher cut.
Filet Mignon on the BBQ 5 min each side.
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Filet Mignon on the BBQ 5 min each side.
2 inch cut? Yes. 1 inch cut, half the time. OK - we got to cook :)
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2 inch cut? Yes. 1 inch cut, half the time. OK - we got to cook :)
I like it rare
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I like it rare
Is there any other way? You got to respect the cow.
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Exactly! Nothing wrong with a PB&J sandwich, cup of fruit and a handful of wheat thins. Better for my daughter to eat it than waste money on food that goes in the trash.
Exactly, but I don't think it's about children eating a nutritious meal in the first place. It's simply about control. If you children don't eat Moochelle's approved arugula and jicama lunch, then you'll just have to starve, you ungrateful little wretches!
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I am fence sitting on this one. Not a comfortable place to be.
You're "on the fence" about schools telling parents that they can't send lunch to school with their kids, and that the kids have to eat whatever the school provides? Mmmmmkay...
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You're "on the fence" about schools telling parents that they can't send lunch to school with their kids, and that the kids have to eat whatever the school provides? Mmmmmkay...
Yep. It is called having seen it first hand and being honest.
Try it some time. Very refreshing.
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Exactly, but I don't think it's about children eating a nutritious meal in the first place. It's simply about control. If you children don't eat Moochelle's approved arugula and jicama lunch, then you'll just have to starve, you ungrateful little wretches!
Michelle is just like her husband when it comes to control. She started out with the exercise program which was a great idea, but then somehow became the leading authority on school lunches. Phew!
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And the many worst parts (as if there can be a "worse" part); kids are getting more obese with these school lunches, kids learn to be dependent on the government for their daily bread and the kids really don't like this slop.
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Dang, Navy - that is barely even a snack! Especially for a boy who is probably burning 20,000 calories a day just at recess!
Seriously - nachos for lunch?
These schools don't have recess.
Too dangerous for the delicate, soft, gullible, useless children they're trying to produce en masse
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Michelle is just like her husband when it comes to control. She started out with the exercise program which was a great idea, but then somehow became the leading authority on school lunches. Phew!
Olivia - take this the right way, please? Sorry, I am tired and really sad and heading to a funeral in the morning, so might be a little brusque.
What is the difference? Mandating exercise or mandating healthy eating? From this end, they both look exactly the same. One of the democrat assholes - I can't remember who off hand - said your kids are not your kids.
That is truth. They are not yours. You just get the joy and pleasure of them for a very short time. Then they pull away like a damned rocket, leaving you behind to watch with fondness and love. Sometimes - if you are really lucky - you get to borrow other kids for a bit. Pass on a few words. Watch for them, worry about them, protect them. Then they are gone.
We all want what is best for children. If you are missing that impulse then the problem is in the mirror (and yeah - you are most definitely not). Should kids exercise? Yep. They should run, fall, skip, fight, be blurs in the playground or the park. Should they eat well? Hell yes! You don't grow muscle, strong bone and elastic joints on KFC!
There are parents who consider their kids something between a paycheck and a particularly annoying pet. A heck of a lot of them - sad to say - will listen to Michelle Obama, because of her skin color. Some do good whitey tries it, forget it. So - this once - I am cutting a little slack. Yes, her diet is terrible. Kids don't want to eat their peas. It is neither imaginative or fun, terribly prescriptive and over controlling.
It is better than the alternative. I have seen the alternative. It ain't pretty.
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Olivia - take this the right way, please? Sorry, I am tired and really sad and heading to a funeral in the morning, so might be a little brusque.
What is the difference? Mandating exercise or mandating healthy eating? From this end, they both look exactly the same. One of the democrat assholes - I can't remember who off hand - said your kids are not your kids.
That is truth. They are not yours. You just get the joy and pleasure of them for a very short time. Then they pull away like a damned rocket, leaving you behind to watch with fondness and love. Sometimes - if you are really lucky - you get to borrow other kids for a bit. Pass on a few words. Watch for them, worry about them, protect them. Then they are gone.
We all want what is best for children. If you are missing that impulse then the problem is in the mirror (and yeah - you are most definitely not). Should kids exercise? Yep. They should run, fall, skip, fight, be blurs in the playground or the park. Should they eat well? Hell yes! You don't grow muscle, strong bone and elastic joints on KFC!
There are parents who consider their kids something between a paycheck and a particularly annoying pet. A heck of a lot of them - sad to say - will listen to Michelle Obama, because of her skin color. Some do good whitey tries it, forget it. So - this once - I am cutting a little slack. Yes, her diet is terrible. Kids don't want to eat their peas. It is neither imaginative or fun, terribly prescriptive and over controlling.
It is better than the alternative. I have seen the alternative. It ain't pretty.
Agee to disagree? You got it!
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My kids were all very healthy and through grade school rarely if ever ate at school they didn't like school food. I sent home made lunches that they loved. In high school they would check the menu and only buy a lunch if they liked what was served about one day a week usually otherwise they fixed their own lunches and took them to school. My kids were in sports at least 3 a year sometimes 4 with outside of school sports like soccer and wrestling in grade school in high school usually 3 sports a year. They all wore slims and were just fine thank you as my grandchildren are now. They are not forced to eat school food and once again I doubt they would my grandkids like my kids choose when to eat at school. We paid the doctor bills the schools don't so we should be the ones to oversee their nutritional needs. I know in low income areas some people don't feed their kids right and are considered to be stupid but that is a low number of students in most school districts and they have free lunches available to them. No way should schools be allowed to dictate to parents who are raising their children without any government help. In my day and my children's day schools were run locally and not dictated to by the federal government. I think the federal government is causing most problems these days along with all the dopey liberals.
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Ketchup? on STEAK??? wash your mouth out with soap... I don't even use steak sauce.
If I'm in a restaurant that even ask if I would like ketchup or steak sauce, then I know its going to be bad. A clue to change my mind and order a burger before it's too late.
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If I'm in a restaurant that even ask if I would like ketchup or steak sauce, then I know its going to be bad. A clue to change my mind and order a burger before it's too late.
word!
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Ketchup? on STEAK??? wash your mouth out with soap... I don't even use steak sauce.
I've never understood why people insist on drowning out the amazing taste of a juicy steak.
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I've never understood why people insist on drowning out the amazing taste of a juicy steak.
Same. It is an insult to the cow, the farmer, the butcher and the cook. four insults for one choice - pretty good!
Like side sauces for the veggies, and yes, it mingles a bit. Can't be helped. But nothing beats the flavor of well raised rare steak, cut and cooked to perfection.
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Thankfully right now in this country we are all allowed our own tastes. I love ketchup on my rare steaks always have and always will. I am not a big ketchup fan but do love it on some meats. I can enjoy a steak without it but prefer to use it.
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Thankfully right now in this country we are all allowed our own tastes. I love ketchup on my rare steaks always have and always will. I am not a big ketchup fan but do love it on some meats. I can enjoy a steak without it but prefer to use it.
Total barbarian.
There is a bottle in the back of the fridge if you need it. :laugh:
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Yuk! It's a good thing people are different or else the world would be boring. :laugh:
Saying that, there's No WAY I would eat a steak rare. Medium well with Heinz sauce is the way to go. My apologizes to the cow, cook and anyone else that might be offended. :laugh:
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Yuk! It's a good thing people are different or else the world would be boring. :laugh:
Saying that, there's No WAY I would eat a steak rare. Medium well with Heinz sauce is the way to go. My apologizes to the cow, cook and anyone else that might be offended. :laugh:
Yeah, rare is kinda pushing it for me. haha
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I like it almost mooing... my husband liked it medium rare.....
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It was a dark time. A dangerous time. The sun refused to shine and the moon was always new. The few fading stars struggled to muster the odd sparkle.
It was the time, referred to in hushed tones, with many a cautious glance over their shoulder, as the steak wars.
It started out innocently. The worst holocausts always do. An innocent post on a forum. Ketchup or not ketchup? Rare or medium? Agreement was obtained at first. Rare, and it's own juices only. Then the dissenting opinions started to appear. Medium well. Ketchup. One miscreant timidly suggested steak sauce and was rounded on by both sides with equal ferocity. It got brutal, fast.
That was a year ago. We few survivors carry on the war as best we can. We teach our children the rules and the rituals of the meat. The cows graze and laugh.
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Yep. It is called having seen it first hand and being honest.
Try it some time. Very refreshing.
Please stay as far away from my family as possible. You don't know how to raise them better than I do, and my kids eat healthy lunches that my wife and I send them to school with every morning.
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Please stay as far away from my family as possible. You don't know how to raise them better than I do, and my kids eat healthy lunches that my wife and I send them to school with every morning.
I no longer teach. I no longer have to visit parents while trying not to vomit at the stench of soiled diapers and the constant flea bites. I no longer need to be tooled up to take one of my ill students his homework, while his mother snores on the sofa in front of the TV. I no longer need to see the faces of despair and hardship looking at me from poorly mended uniforms every single morning.
You and your wife know how to raise your children. I expect that here and expect it of you. Some others do not. Should they be left in the dirt? Literally in many cases.
I think not.
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I no longer teach. I no longer have to visit parents while trying not to vomit at the stench of soiled diapers and the constant flea bites. I no longer need to be tooled up to take one of my ill students his homework, while his mother snores on the sofa in front of the TV. I no longer need to see the faces of despair and hardship looking at me from poorly mended uniforms every single morning.
You and your wife know how to raise your children. I expect that here and expect it of you. Some others do not. Should they be left in the dirt? Literally in many cases.
I think not.
I don't want my kids to depend on the government for their lunch because some other parents are terrible. It's that sort of catering to the lowest common denominator that is ruining the public school system in the first place. Just because there are terrible parents doesn't mean that my kids can't eat what makes them happy for lunch, IMO.
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I don't want my kids to depend on the government for their lunch because some other parents are terrible. It's that sort of catering to the lowest common denominator that is ruining the public school system in the first place. Just because there are terrible parents doesn't mean that my kids can't eat what makes them happy for lunch, IMO.
Completely agree.
Free lunches for kids whose parents neglect them, OK.
Making kids with good parents eat what might well be less nutritious lunches, NO.
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I don't want my kids to depend on the government for their lunch because some other parents are terrible. It's that sort of catering to the lowest common denominator that is ruining the public school system in the first place. Just because there are terrible parents doesn't mean that my kids can't eat what makes them happy for lunch, IMO.
Fair enough. Bit of a button issue for me, having worked with these poor sods for years. No hard feelings?
Catering to the lowest common denominator is exactly what it is. It is wrong. Sad and hopeless. But I haven't clue one what to do.
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Fair enough. Bit of a button issue for me, having worked with these poor sods for years. No hard feelings?
Catering to the lowest common denominator is exactly what it is. It is wrong. Sad and hopeless. But I haven't clue one what to do.
We're good, EC! I feel strongly about it too, because I have a kid in the TAG program (Talented and Gifted) whose TAG classes now consist of lunches every other week to play board games with other TAG students.
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We're good, EC! I feel strongly about it too, because I have a kid in the TAG program (Talented and Gifted) who's TAG classes now consist of lunches every other week to play board games with other TAG students.
If they want college level chemistry or physics, hit me up. I still love teaching - just not in a classroom setting any more!
I have seen so many bright, talented and inquiring minds wasted - it makes me slightly nauseous to think of.
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I would be willing to bet that if there is a muslim within 100 miles of a school you will not find pork anything on the menu. :pondering: I would also bet they won't eat any meat on the menu because it isn't halal. **nononono*