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Title: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 25, 2013, 12:38:12 pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9m6KzRMWnA

An inside look....and what to expect...


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I absolutely LOVED this movie....a movie you will watch again and again.   Believe me!

It will be better the 2nd and 3rd time you watch it.


It's a 'thinking person's' movie.  LOL!

WARNING!!! - spoilers may follow in any ensuing discussions.  See it first!
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 25, 2013, 12:39:44 pm
It virtually impossible for me to write a summary of the movie or discuss this film with anybody that hasn't seen it.

Too many spoilers needed to reveal....to give a review justice.

But trust me....you WILL BE HOOKED!    :patriot:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: andy58-in-nh on August 25, 2013, 01:05:45 pm
It virtually impossible for me to write a summary of the movie or discuss this film with anybody that hasn't seen it.

Too many spoilers needed to reveal....to give a review justice.

But trust me....you WILL BE HOOKED!    :patriot:

I might well have to check it out. Good films have been few and far between this year.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 25, 2013, 01:12:08 pm
I might well have to check it out. Good films have been few and far between this year.

You will not be disappointed...except when it's over, you'll likely want/need to see it again to answer the questions you'll undoubtedly have.     :laugh:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: Oceander on August 25, 2013, 01:25:09 pm
Just as an aside - I'm not trying to be a buzz-buster - but it's nice to see how much gun violence the gun-control freaks in Hollywood are willing to pimp out for the sake of a few dollars.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: PzLdr on August 25, 2013, 02:11:45 pm
It virtually impossible for me to write a summary of the movie or discuss this film with anybody that hasn't seen it.

Too many spoilers needed to reveal....to give a review justice.

But trust me....you WILL BE HOOKED!    :patriot:

Hate to disagree, but I wasn't impressed. Found the special effects outstanding, but I found it to be slow,and tedious. Couldn't wait for it to end.  :shrug:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 25, 2013, 03:47:38 pm
Hate to disagree, but I wasn't impressed. Found the special effects outstanding, but I found it to be slow,and tedious. Couldn't wait for it to end. :shrug:


That's quite alright....but you should know that there is a medication for that!   {{{just kidding}}}


Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 25, 2013, 10:28:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRywL8RKIQE


Amazing soundtrack in this film.....just one here.


WARNING:   Never drive your vehicle on a multi-lane highway listening to this.....especially one that is heavily patrolled.   :beer:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 25, 2013, 10:40:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_MPF3JRyOA


Nothing would be better....IMHO...than to have all my friends here watch this movie....and then we could have one helluva lot of fun discussing it.

NOTHING!    :laugh:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: Rapunzel on August 25, 2013, 10:57:41 pm
It is on PPV already.........  must have really bombed at the boxoffice to be on TV so soon..., debating whether to watch it
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 25, 2013, 11:04:56 pm
It is on PPV already.........  must have really bombed at the boxoffice to be on TV so soon..., debating whether to watch it

You will love it.   Grab a glass of wine and turn your speakers up.  The story...the twists...the visuals...and not in the least...the wonderful music score.

Rap....watch it tonight.   We'll be up all night talking about it.   LOL!


Here's the link to the complete score: 


http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7F77836665D1975E


The music itself is worth it.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 25, 2013, 11:09:31 pm
It is on PPV already.........  must have really bombed at the boxoffice to be on TV so soon..., debating whether to watch it


It opened in April.   Heck...there are newer movies than that out there too.

You can buy it for the price of an IMAX ticket.   It's a steal!   

You will watch it more than once. 
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: Rapunzel on August 25, 2013, 11:14:35 pm
You will love it.   Grab a glass of wine and turn your speakers up.  The story...the twists...the visuals...and not in the least...the wonderful music score.

Rap....watch it tonight.   We'll be up all night talking about it.   LOL!


Here's the link to the complete score: 


http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7F77836665D1975E


The music itself is worth it.

~LOL~ I have to work, DC.... wish I could just kick back.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 26, 2013, 03:33:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZGNQ2v9DA4


Tremendous score!  Starwaves

This music play during the sensual swimming pool scene, where Jack and Vicka relax after Jack's typical day...LOL!

She's very sexy.

"I'll show YOU something....."
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 26, 2013, 09:12:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0i60jRkQH0&list=PLqQ3hwjp9yWgKGaDnAzDNz9_viy1ZBn_I


For all those out there with varying degrees of ADD....here's a good 10 minute preview.

Love the haunting sound of that beacon...and of course the soundtrack.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 26, 2013, 10:06:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU5pIsflvS0


A great driving song starts at 10:36.....to give you some idea of the excitement!


I suspect that the reason the movie may have gone to PPV is because of the negative publicity toward Tom Cruise.  That's unfortuate, IMO, because this film is magnificently filmed.

THE SKY TOWER SET

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This was a real set...of course on ground level, but it was all real....the co-star wanted to live there forever.  No blue screen....the windows are screens depicting the countless hours of constant filming at a volcano.  So the sunsets are real and the brightness of the 'clouds' serves as fill-in lighting.

It's gorgeous!
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 26, 2013, 10:09:03 pm
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I WANT ONE!!!!!         8888crybaby
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 26, 2013, 10:10:10 pm
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Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 26, 2013, 10:54:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NEYAP2t9FQ

If this movie does not win at least the Oscar for best soundtrack it will be a crime.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 26, 2013, 11:51:52 pm
I found it impossible to follow. My wife who gets into sci-fi far more than me had to help clear up the confusing plot for me on the drive home.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: famousdayandyear on August 27, 2013, 12:07:55 am
Looked up casting.  Morgan Freeman?  No thanks.  Pass.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 27, 2013, 12:10:32 am
I found it impossible to follow. My wife who gets into sci-fi far more than me had to help clear up the confusing plot for me on the drive home.

I can't stand it!   LOL!

Can you imagine how the Russian girl that Jack brings back to the Sky Tower feels when she's looking at Jack while she's laying there?

She at first thinks she's looking at her husband who was the commander of the space module which he....at the last moment decided to un-hitch from his capsule....and place into a SIXTY YEAR ORBIT!!

But she thinks that Jack is her husband because IT'S A CLONE!   Jack is TECH 49.

Anyway, you're laying there thinking...okay, my husband and me were lucky to survive.  She thinks it's still 2017.   NOT 2077.

Is that clear?

And then discovers TECH 52 is another clone of him.   And he's got a Victoria too!  THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THEM.

All made from the Russian girls pilot husband.  The only other person in the cockpit part of the capsule was the original Victoria.

THE ALIEN produced thousands of clones from those two people and created "teams" that protected their water converting machines from scavengers.

.....who aren't scavengers at all.

It's an amazing story.

I've been wondering if there was a clone of 'you'....would it experience strange dreams because every conscious thought is implanted in your DNA string?

Would 'they' actually have dreams of your dreams of that Super Bowl experience?  That moment you met your wife?  The way she looked?  It really profound....because

.....there's a TECH 52, TECH 55....and so on and so on..

They were told not to veer off into the 'red zone' or they could die from radiation.  So....SALLY controlled everything from the temp ship.

Sally was amazing....her friendly Southern mannerisms.   She asks the question..."You ARE and EFFECTIVE team??"  in an accusatory style. 

She's not human...she's a machine.

They used the clones because they didn't want to come down to the surface....or because it was all computer controlled.

The drones steal the show....the audio amazing.  I turn my speakers up as it is because of my severe tinnitus...but I loved it.

A key item in the movie is that book that is there plain as day when Jack descends into the sinkhole....which is the New York Library btw....the book is directly at his feet.  He picks it up later on the way out.

Watch it again, Navy.


Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 27, 2013, 03:44:48 am
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Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 27, 2013, 06:47:14 pm
Yea, DC that's pretty much how my wife explained it on the way home, and I still don't get it.. She wants to watch it again at home on-demand, but I bet you to me it still doesn't make sense,  a  2nd time, 3rd, or 30th time.

But what I really don't get is she finds some of the best classics immposible to watch, like The African Queen,  It's a Wonderful Life, Mr. Roberts. She finds them boring.....

Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: Rapunzel on August 27, 2013, 09:03:53 pm
Yea, DC that's pretty much how my wife explained it on the way home, and I still don't get it.. She wants to watch it again at home on-demand, but I bet you to me it still doesn't make sense,  a  2nd time, 3rd, or 30th time.

But what I really don't get is she finds some of the best classics immposible to watch, like The African Queen,  It's a Wonderful Life, Mr. Roberts. She finds them boring.....

Interesting, I'd rather watch the old movies.. more and more these days I gravitate to the older stuff.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 27, 2013, 09:04:32 pm


But what I really don't get is she finds some of the best classics immposible to watch, like The African Queen,  It's a Wonderful Life, Mr. Roberts. She finds them boring.....


That's what happens when you "rob the cradle" in your selection for a wife!    :laugh:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: aligncare on August 27, 2013, 09:33:15 pm
Give me the classics any day of the week. The fast cut action sequences and CGI in contemporary films loose me. Modern audiences want this but character development often takes a back seat, making the film seem like it's all sound and fury without any deeper substance.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: Rapunzel on August 27, 2013, 09:40:36 pm
Give me the classics any day of the week. The fast cut action sequences and CGI in contemporary films loose me. Modern audiences want this but character development often takes a back seat, making the film seem like it's all sound and fury without any deeper substance.

I would rather watch a John Wayne re-run.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 27, 2013, 10:03:04 pm
All you guyz are making me laugh......

Just love it when you see somebody compares any movie to Gone with the Wind...or Citizen Kane.

Same crap attitude you run into when you hear people say..."Oh, I don't watch much television....cept PBS or maybe the Science Channel.   LOL!

BULLETIN!!    This thread is meant to try to get an intelligent discussion of the storyline and plot lines of Oblivion.

 :patriot:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 27, 2013, 11:02:30 pm
That's what happens when you "rob the cradle" in your selection for a wife!    :laugh:

How did you know?   I still find it odd that when I graduated high school and went into the Navy she was just leaving 5th grade.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 27, 2013, 11:06:41 pm
Interesting, I'd rather watch the old movies.. more and more these days I gravitate to the older stuff.

Rap....I modified the original post to this thread...switched out the YouTube videos.

There is now an in depth video on the making and filming the movie.

Please watch it....for many many reasons. (which we can discuss later on perhaps...LOL)

If you don't fall in love with this movie....then I really don't 'know' you.  Would be really surprised.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 27, 2013, 11:11:30 pm

BULLETIN!!    This thread is meant to try to get an intelligent discussion of the storyline and plot lines of Oblivion.
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OK we're with you - back on subject.   The question on the thread header is OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?   

Looking at the comments  I think all of us are voting Goofy -  except for maybe you. Oh and my wife but she's to young to vote.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 27, 2013, 11:13:12 pm


BULLETIN!!    This thread is meant to try to get an intelligent discussion of the storyline and plot lines of Oblivion.

 
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OK we're with you - back on subject.   The question on the thread header is OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?   

Looking at the comments  I think all of us are voting Goofy -  except for maybe you. Oh and my wife but she aint  voting.

Well, you obviously married "up"!     :beer:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 27, 2013, 11:27:22 pm
Well, you obviously married "up"!     :beer:

Also blessed with 2 TVs.   She can watch Oblivion upstairs, while and I watch The magnificent Seven in the Theater Room.

Its not just Oblivion. We had the same differences with the Matrix movies and Tron. I hated them, she loved them.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: Rapunzel on August 27, 2013, 11:39:42 pm
Also blessed with 2 TVs.   She can watch Oblivion upstairs, while and I watch The magnificent Seven in the Theater Room.

Its not just Oblivion. We had the same differences with the Matrix movies and Tron. I hated them, she loved them.

I can go you one better, Navy.  When George was still alive our big-screen TV in the bedroom was one of those "split screen" TV's.. I had head phones and could watch my half while he watched his half.. that way I could watch HGTV and he could watch SciFi....... and we could still be together......
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: Rapunzel on August 27, 2013, 11:40:14 pm
DC I'll watch the you tube this evening.. I truly am slammed with work right now so my time for goofing off is limited.
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: aligncare on August 28, 2013, 01:33:50 am
Also blessed with 2 TVs.   She can watch Oblivion upstairs, while and I watch The magnificent Seven in the Theater Room.

Its not just Oblivion. We had the same differences with the Matrix movies and Tron. I hated them, she loved them.

I'm with you, Navy. You got theater room, I got popcorn, and it's been a while since I've seen the John Sturges classic... dunt dunt da dunt....   :2popcorn:

Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 28, 2013, 10:01:28 pm
Also blessed with 2 TVs.   She can watch Oblivion upstairs, while and I watch The magnificent Seven in the Theater Room.

Its not just Oblivion. We had the same differences with the Matrix movies and Tron. I hated them, she loved them.

The first Matrix movie was pretty good...at least the story and special effects.  I'm with you on Tron.  Not a fan at all.

The one "flaw" I cannot reconcile in OBLIVION is this.....why is it that the clones all spoke English?  Was it because their general area of responsibility was New York City region?

Because if I was "Sally", I'd not allow them to learn or be programmed to speak English...because he'd eventually find out the scavengers are simply American citizens...led by Morgan Freeman.

Incidentally, I believe he's the ONLY African-American in the movie.....so maybe something happened between 2017 and 2077.   :silly:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on August 30, 2013, 02:30:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rf5QwVAAxg
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on September 01, 2013, 04:40:23 pm
LOL!

I'm still thinking about this movie.   

My first question.  I have read many forums where this movie was reviewed and noticed that some viewers think that....since she was now 'involved' with TECH 49...that she was in an incestuous relationship.

....which is bunk.   A clone is not a child of the original.....it IS the original.

The ONLY thing that can affect the clone is its environment...in terms of your physical appearance.  For example, how much you weigh...how you fix your hair.   If one does lots of drugs, smokes or drinks....that would also insure that clones may not 'look alike'....but they'd still look like siblings or cousins.  LOL!

This movie suggests that a cloned individual has certain memories of their past actually imbedded in their DNA strand.

TECH 49....as well as TECH 52 were both haunted by the same dream(s)....the experience of the "original" Jack Harper...the astronaut.


2nd question....would Julia find TECH 52 a soul mate?  As she did with TECH 49?   Tech 52 got his ass kicked by 49...he didn't save her life....he didn't put himself between the drone and her?   He didn't put her to sleep and go on his suicide mission with Morgan Freeman.  He was apparently 'rescued' by the people and shown where Julia and her daughter lived.

One thing for sure....this movie will make you think.   I liked it a lot.   
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on September 01, 2013, 08:02:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJqmifrDPzw


ROFL!


She loved it...and I can relate to that.   He HATED it!


Uh.....does this mean I'm really a male lesbian?    :laugh:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on September 01, 2013, 09:18:47 pm
WARNING:  SPOILER ALERT!!!

Everybody has experienced waking up from surgery.  You close your eyes and suddenly you’re trying to open them…acclimating yourself to your immediate surroundings.   Wondering how much time you’ve been under …

Julia went to ‘sleep’ being happily married to her husband (Tom Cruise).  She remained in that sleep state… in orbit, for “at least sixty (60) years”.

He was the pilot of the spacecraft heading up to “The Tet” a massive tetradedral space station orbiting the earth. 

Julie was in a separate attached module along with four others all in sleep mode. 

The first two people she sees is THE PILOT AND THE CO-PILOT of the spacecraft on which she was ‘freight’. 

BUT THEY’RE NOT!   Sixty plus years have gone by.  She looking at clones but it hasn’t registered yet.  They show Tom looking all gorgeous for added effect.  He’s got a guilty look about him that he can’t explain.

It’s an excellent performance that conveys all the emotion you’d expect from such an event.

And it begins at exactly 42 minutes into the film.

WATCH IT!   And don’t be distracted by Julia’s lips.   

Watch Vicka turn into Nurse Ratched.    :laugh:

.........then come back and we can discuss it.      :tongue2:
Title: Re: OBLIVION - Great...or Goofy?
Post by: DCPatriot on September 14, 2013, 10:49:39 pm
Just a note:

My lady friend has expressed a strong dislike for Tom Cruise...nose scrunches...squinty eyes whenever his name comes up.

I asked her to watch this movie and she finally did.

She called me a couple of times during the movie for explanations (have seen it about a half dozen times  LOL!)

She said it was a terrific story and visual experience and that she has to reevaluate her POV on Tom Cruise.    :silly:

No small feat there.....