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Title: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2015, 01:11:46 pm
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2569088


Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage
By Byron York • 7/28/15 4:42 AM

A new poll of voters likely to take part in the New Hampshire Republican primary shows Donald Trump with the biggest lead he has yet held in the GOP race. The Monmouth University poll, released Tuesday morning, has Trump at 24 percent — double the support of the next-highest Republican, Jeb Bush, at 12 percent.

Scott Walker and John Kasich are tied for third at 7 percent apiece — a significant drop for Walker from recent months and a significant advance for Kasich, who announced his candidacy on June 21. Following are Marco Rubio, at 6 percent; Ben Carson and Rand Paul, 5 percent; Chris Christie, 4 percent; Ted Cruz and Carol Fiorina, 3 percent; and the rest of the field.

The survey suggests Trump's appeal is strong across the spectrum of voters likely to go to the polls in the New Hampshire primary. Among registered Republicans, his support is 21 percent. Among independents, who are allowed to vote in the GOP primary, his support is 29 percent. Trump leads among voters who call themselves very conservative, as well as among those who call themselves somewhat conservative. Only among moderate voters does Bush lead, and even among them, Trump is just 4 points behind.

Trump has a huge lead among voters under 50 years old — 30 percent to Rand Paul's 12 percent. Trump also has a solid advantage among voters over 50 — 21 percent to Bush's 13 percent.

Trump is still a divisive figure, but the new poll shows him in (barely) positive territory on the favorability question — 47 percent of those surveyed have a favorable view of Trump, while 44 percent have an unfavorable view. Trump's 47 percent favorable rating is the same as Bush's, although Bush has a lower (37 percent) unfavorable rating.

The poll, of 467 New Hampshire voters, was conducted from July 23 to July 26 — after Trump's much-discussed July 18 attack on two-time New Hampshire primary winner John McCain's war record. "The controversy over comments about John McCain's war service do not appear to have slowed the Trump steamroller," said Patrick Murray, head of Monmouth University polling, in a statement accompanying the poll results. While the McCain comments could still damage Trump — voter reactions almost always take longer to show up than the instant controversies that consume the political class — at least so far, Trump is suffering no harm in New Hampshire.

Trump's statements on immigration have received a lot of attention, but the new poll suggests he is the current voter favorite on the basis of a wide range of issues. "When asked to choose the most important issue in deciding who they will support for the GOP nomination, New Hampshire primary voters select national security (25 percent) and the economy (23 percent) as their top concerns, followed by taxes and government spending (20 percent)," Monmouth reports. Immigration was fourth, with 13 percent, followed by social issues at eight percent.

Trump's 12-point lead is by far his largest so far in New Hampshire. In an NBC survey of state voters taken around the time of the McCain remarks, Trump led by seven points. In CNN and Suffolk polls released in June, Bush held leads of five and three points, respectively.

The new poll will do nothing to allay the concerns of Republican establishment figures who fear Trump is damaging the GOP brand among general election voters. (Trump is currently in second place in Iowa and leading in national surveys.) Many political strategists believe it is only a matter of time before the Trump bubble bursts, either by Trump's own hand or as a result from attacks by rival candidates. But the new Monmouth poll suggests that so far, the voters of New Hampshire are not going along.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: bkepley on July 28, 2015, 01:16:53 pm
"When asked to choose the most important issue in deciding who they will support for the GOP nomination, New Hampshire primary voters select national security (25 percent)

Maybe it's just me but Trump does not give me a warm and comfy feeling when it comes to national security. **nononono*
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Bigun on July 28, 2015, 01:21:02 pm
Maybe it's just me but Trump does not give me a warm and comfy feeling when it comes to national security. **nononono*

Trump is a democrat running as a republican and tapping in to a LOT of pent up anger right now. That won't last.  The first time he has to answer a REAL question on policy he's toast!
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: massadvj on July 28, 2015, 01:25:20 pm
Trump is a democrat running as a republican and tapping in to a LOT of pent up anger right now. That won't last.  The first time he has to answer a REAL question on policy he's toast!

I hope you are right.  I fear he will just continue to go on the attack and never have to explain anything.  It is a tactic that has worked well for Democrats for years, and now that the Republican electorate is nearly as coarse as the Democrat electorate, plus the fact that independents can vote in most primaries, and the fact that Trump has oodles of cash to buy a big megaphone, it might actually work.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: GourmetDan on July 28, 2015, 01:46:17 pm
Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage

Apparently, most people see McCain as the real loser...


Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: aligncare on July 28, 2015, 02:04:54 pm
Relax you guys.

I listen to Mark Simone on the radio in New York for years. He's a fiscal conservative, social liberal, and here's the important part, an immigration hawk (build the wall!!). He's interviewed Trump hundreds of times, he's played golf with him; he knows him, he's been to his office. The Trump he personally knows is not the man you guys have caricatured. Trump builds things and I think he may have his sights set on rebuilding a leaner federal government. Just my opinion based on someone who knows the kind of man Trump is.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: bkepley on July 28, 2015, 02:06:18 pm
Relax you guys.

I listen to Mark Simone on the radio in New York for years. He's a fiscal conservative, social liberal, and here's the important part, an immigration hawk (build the wall!!). He's interviewed Trump hundreds of times, he's played golf with him; he knows him, he's been to his office. The Trump he personally knows is not the man you guys have caricatured. Trump builds things and I think he may have his sights set on rebuilding a leaner federal government. Just my opinion based on someone who knows the kind of man Trump is.

Then why does he act like such an idiot on TV?
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: aligncare on July 28, 2015, 02:10:26 pm
Then why does he act like such an idiot on TV?

That's just Trump's personality. My brother asks me why I keep acting like an idiot. What can I say?

Trump is all about efficiency and getting the job done on time and on budget. I wouldn't mind seeing that from my federal government.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: bkepley on July 28, 2015, 02:51:52 pm
That's just Trump's personality. My brother asks me why I keep acting like an idiot. What can I say?

Trump is all about efficiency and getting the job done on time and on budget. I wouldn't mind seeing that from my federal government.

That personality might work for a business man but I think it would be a comedy for the commander in chief, first politician, first diplomat and all the rest that goes along with the job.  I don't even think he's fit for the Senate.  Maybe Governor..we've had a few odd balls there.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: truth_seeker on July 28, 2015, 02:54:09 pm
Trump is a democrat running as a republican and tapping in to a LOT of pent up anger right now. That won't last.  The first time he has to answer a REAL question on policy he's toast!
I have made my share of negative remarks about Trump, but he is proving many of his naysayers wrong.

So now we'll just have to let him take a look under the hood, so to speak.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: bkepley on July 28, 2015, 02:56:55 pm
I have made my share of negative remarks about Trump, but he is proving many of his naysayers wrong.

So now we'll just have to let him take a look under the hood, so to speak.

I think he would just run his mouth and play golf, sorta like Obama come to think of it, but he might hire folks who are not afraid of making hard decisions.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Longiron on July 28, 2015, 03:03:15 pm
Maybe it's just me but Trump does not give me a warm and comfy feeling when it comes to national security. **nononono*

Depends on what your comfort level is, IS. He has said to take on ISIS one must cut the head off first. Bomb the hell out of the oil wells they have taken over and CUT the money stream off and the funding is GONE. With that ISIS is now defunded and the rest should be able to get rid of the treat from there??? Now the RINOGOP would never do such a thing. It might hurt someone's feelings and who care if the boys and raise a little hell by cutting off a few American or Christians heads off. :amen:
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: aligncare on July 28, 2015, 03:08:44 pm
I think he would just run his mouth and play golf, sorta like Obama come to think of it, but he might hire folks who are not afraid of making hard decisions.

Apparently you didn't hear what I said. I said I know of someone who knows Donald Trump, had many dinners with the man, and has said in public, risking his own veracity and public image, that Trump is unequivocally a go getter – as we used to call success oriented people. By most measures, Trump is a successful man. I don't think he can be compared to Obama in any way, shape or form.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: bkepley on July 28, 2015, 03:16:25 pm
Apparently you didn't hear what I said. I said I know of someone who knows Donald Trump, had many dinners with the man, and has said in public, risking his own veracity and public image, that Trump is unequivocally a go getter – as we used to call success oriented people. By most measures, Trump is a successful man. I don't think he can be compared to Obama in any way, shape or form.

Well I'm sorry to say that I don't believe everything I hear at second hand and on the internet but like I said, he might hire people who would be willing to make the hard decisions.  Trump's whole persona at this time indicates to me that he is a guy who hasn't really given a whole lot of thought to the things he is bloviating on.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Relic on July 28, 2015, 03:44:10 pm
Trump is just a distraction. The real threat is if he goes Ross Perot.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: truth_seeker on July 28, 2015, 03:54:16 pm
Trump is just a distraction. The real threat is if he goes Ross Perot.
Unlike Perot, Trump is trying to legitimately win the GOP nomination, and so far succeeding.

I wish Ross would update his flip charts, and send them over to the Donald. Then out on the campaign stump, the Donald could borrow a car, place the charts on the hood of the car, and give his pitch.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Relic on July 28, 2015, 04:11:28 pm
Unlike Perot, Trump is trying to legitimately win the GOP nomination, and so far succeeding.

I wish Ross would update his flip charts, and send them over to the Donald. Then out on the campaign stump, the Donald could borrow a car, place the charts on the hood of the car, and give his pitch.

I'd bet money Donald Trump does not win the GOP nomination.

Now, is he damaging the party? Maybe, I'm not sure.
Is he exposing the lack of leadership? Yes.
Could he have an overall positive effect on the GOP? Maybe.
Has he tapped into a lot of anger and frustration in the base? Absolutely.
If he runs third party will the Democrat candidate win? Without a doubt.

That's how I see it.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: truth_seeker on July 28, 2015, 04:50:18 pm
I'd bet money Donald Trump does not win the GOP nomination.

Now, is he damaging the party? Maybe, I'm not sure.
Is he exposing the lack of leadership? Yes.
Could he have an overall positive effect on the GOP? Maybe.
Has he tapped into a lot of anger and frustration in the base? Absolutely.
If he runs third party will the Democrat candidate win? Without a doubt.

That's how I see it.
Nothing to argue over. I am in observation and learning mode. It is a long, long time until the primary elections, let alone the general.

I hope the GOP fields a very strong candidate, and defeat the democrat.

 
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on July 28, 2015, 04:58:46 pm
Apparently you didn't hear what I said. I said I know of someone who knows Donald Trump, had many dinners with the man, and has said in public, risking his own veracity and public image, that Trump is unequivocally a go getter – as we used to call success oriented people. By most measures, Trump is a successful man. I don't think he can be compared to Obama in any way, shape or form.

Other than in the pro-abortion, pro gun control, pro higher taxation thing at least.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: aligncare on July 28, 2015, 07:37:05 pm
I don't think he [Trump] can be compared to Obama ... except as regards the point that I was responding to, that Trump probably also prefers playing golf (like Obama does) rather than being a go getter and working hard for the American people (i.e. faithfully executing the president's daily duties.)

picky picky picky.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Longiron on July 28, 2015, 08:00:59 pm
Trump is just a distraction. The real threat is if he goes Ross Perot.

Different Time, different place, different issues than Perot place in politics. If The PUBBIES treat him fair, he will stay Republican as per his appearance on Hannity last night. If they try and SCREW him with attack personal Ads he will go 3rd party ,maybe??? The RINOGOP 's call. Of course he might be a pulling guard for CRUZ? Don't know! Time will tell! :patriot: By the way he is running 3rd Party NOW and WINNING.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Fishrrman on July 29, 2015, 02:31:03 am
bkepley wrote above:
[[ Well I'm sorry to say that I don't believe everything I hear at second hand and on the internet but like I said, he might hire people who would be willing to make the hard decisions...]]

Isn't that what good leaders -- whether they be corporate leaders or heads of state -- do ??

Aside:
I want to see Mr. Trump walk into the EPA and say to everyone there:
"You're fired!"
(yes, I know there is something called "Civil Service". But I want to hear him say it anyway!)
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 29, 2015, 02:54:48 am
By the way he is running 3rd Party NOW and WINNING. 

GREAT point!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: GourmetDan on July 29, 2015, 01:26:37 pm
By the way he is running 3rd Party NOW and WINNING.

We know that the media often promotes certain candidates early so that they can destroy them when it counts.

If you think that can't happen to Trump... think again.


Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: aligncare on July 29, 2015, 02:16:44 pm
We know that the media often promotes certain candidates early so that they can destroy them when it counts.

If you think that can't happen to Trump... think again.

This Trump thing is weird. Aces are wild. Your guess is as good as any. Will he implode or will he go. all. the. way. I think everyone is merely guessing, and whatever side you come down on is based on your own political bias.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: flowers on July 29, 2015, 02:48:46 pm
It is very refreshing to see Trump not back down. I am enjoying it. Having said that I fear he is going to run as a Independent, thus as Relic posted a Ross Perot situation.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: GourmetDan on July 29, 2015, 02:53:38 pm
This Trump thing is weird. Aces are wild. Your guess is as good as any. Will he implode or will he go. all. the. way. I think everyone is merely guessing, and whatever side you come down on is based on your own political bias.

It reminds me so much of the Perot-era. 

Wealthy, straight-talking, call-out the media 'candidate' with a populist message appears and draws strong numbers.  Democrat candidate sucks in single-digit until Democrat Convention.  'Candidate' then bows out saying "It looks like the major parties (Democrat) have listened to the people.  Democrat candidate instantly vaults to the lead.  GOP candidate runs terrible campaign but still chips away at Democrat lead.  With a month to go, 'candidate' declares the parties are not listening after all and jumps back in pulling more support from GOP candidate.  Democrat win with minority support.  Repeat 'candidacy' 4 years later to ensure Democrat wins second-term with minority support again.

That is when I realized that politics is 'managed' for a particular outcome...

Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: GourmetDan on July 29, 2015, 02:55:59 pm
It is very refreshing to see Trump not back down. I am enjoying it. Having said that I fear he is going to run as a Independent, thus as Relic posted a Ross Perot situation.

Yeah, we all enjoy that because it reflects popular attitudes toward government and the media.  No politician does that and it attracts support but that's the 'hook'.

We forget that it is attached to a 'line' that comes with a 'sinker'.

I still think that 'politics' is managed for a particular outcome...

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." - Franklin D. Roosevelt



Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: MBB1984 on July 29, 2015, 04:14:57 pm
It is very refreshing to see Trump not back down. I am enjoying it. Having said that I fear he is going to run as a Independent, thus as Relic posted a Ross Perot situation.

Trump running as an independent will not have much large appeal unless the GOP nominates an amnesty candidate, such as Bush or Rubio.  A Conservative candidate can simply repeat Trump's rhetoric and sound more convincing on all of the other Conservative issues.  But, if the GOP nominates an amnesty nominee, a Trump third party candidacy could probably outpoll the GOP nominee.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: bkepley on July 29, 2015, 04:17:52 pm
Trump running as an independent will not have much large appeal unless the GOP nominates an amnesty candidate, such as Bush or Rubio.  A Conservative candidate can simply repeat Trump's rhetoric and sound more convincing on all of the other Conservative issues.  But, if the GOP nominates an amnesty nominee, a Trump third party candidacy could probably outpoll the GOP nominee.

Well that makes no sense because Trump is an amnesty candidate:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259589/donald-trump-endorses-amnesty-illegal-aliens-daniel-greenfield
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: GourmetDan on July 29, 2015, 04:18:45 pm
 
Trump’s CFO is Allen Weisselberg and his legal counsel is Michael Cohen.

His daughter Ivanka married into the Kushner family in New Jersey.

Who do you think runs Donald Trump?


Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: DCPatriot on July 29, 2015, 04:30:38 pm

Trump’s CFO is Allen Weisselberg and his legal counsel is Michael Cohen.

His daughter Ivanka married into the Kushner family in New Jersey.

Who do you think runs Donald Trump?

Aw geez....not this sh*t again!     :thud:
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: flowers on July 29, 2015, 04:30:57 pm
Quote
That is when I realized that politics is 'managed' for a particular outcome...

Anyone who cannot see that at this point is truly blind. I used to think otherwise. Now I know the fix is in.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: DCPatriot on July 29, 2015, 04:35:43 pm
Anyone who cannot see that at this point is truly blind. I used to think otherwise. Now I know the fix is in.

It's the media complex that is managed.  Not "politics". 

Perhaps the number of people that agree with one's political slant is much smaller in reality. 
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: flowers on July 29, 2015, 04:39:03 pm
Quote
Kushner family in New Jersey
  Who are they?
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: DCPatriot on July 29, 2015, 04:42:53 pm
  Who are they?

Not "Who"...but what.

They're Jewish.   :whistle:

It's sad.  Trump is everything Obama and Hillary are not.  He is the pro-business, anti-Left candidate.  That should be good enough today.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: flowers on July 29, 2015, 04:46:55 pm
It's the media complex that is managed.  Not "politics". 

Perhaps the number of people that agree with one's political slant is much smaller in reality.
With all the people his regime in letting flow into this country daily PLUS them going after the some voting laws to make anyone able to vote is one reason why I say the fix is in.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: flowers on July 29, 2015, 04:47:49 pm
Not "Who"...but what.

They're Jewish.   :whistle:

It's sad.  Trump is everything Obama and Hillary are not.  He is the pro-business, anti-Left candidate.  That should be good enough today.
;)
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: GourmetDan on July 29, 2015, 04:48:32 pm
It's sad.  Trump is everything Obama and Hillary are not.  He is the pro-business, anti-Left candidate.  That should be good enough today.

Actually, Chelsea married Mark Mezinsky.  Google is your friend...

Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: GourmetDan on July 29, 2015, 04:50:04 pm
Aw geez....not this sh*t again!     

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...


Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: MBB1984 on July 29, 2015, 05:43:04 pm
Well that makes no sense because Trump is an amnesty candidate:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259589/donald-trump-endorses-amnesty-illegal-aliens-daniel-greenfield

Trump's amnesty is much more palatable than Bush's which generally translates to no deportations at all combined with weak border security.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: bkepley on July 29, 2015, 05:46:05 pm
Trump's amnesty is much more palatable than Bush's which generally translates to no deportations at all combined with weak border security.

If any other Republican, possibly save Cruz, had said what Trump has said he/she would be attacked as pro-amnesty by all the "NO AMNESTY EVER THEY ARE ALL CRIMINALS" types.
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: libertybele on July 29, 2015, 06:12:51 pm
Trump's amnesty is much more palatable than Bush's which generally translates to no deportations at all combined with weak border security.

If I remember correctly, I believe that Barry's amnesty would grant amnesty to 87% of illegals that are here.  Granted according to the article you referenced Trump doesn't lay out "exacts" but he does speak of mass deportation.

As for Bush his stance on immigration has even changed since 2009 in which he actually favored deportation then a few years later changed his mind.  He also stated that people come here illegally because there is no legal means to come AND perhaps my most favorite line of Jeb regarding immigrants ... Immigrants are more fertile!  He also supports the DREAM Act just not through executive action.

IMHO Jeb is a Bozo.  Oh, did I mention, that he is an "honorary" Cuban? 

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Jeb_Bush_Immigration.htm
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on July 30, 2015, 04:40:31 am
If I remember correctly, I believe that Barry's amnesty would grant amnesty to 87% of illegals that are here.  Granted according to the article you referenced Trump doesn't lay out "exacts" but he does speak of mass deportation.

As for Bush his stance on immigration has even changed since 2009 in which he actually favored deportation then a few years later changed his mind.  He also stated that people come here illegally because there is no legal means to come AND perhaps my most favorite line of Jeb regarding immigrants ... Immigrants are more fertile!  He also supports the DREAM Act just not through executive action.

IMHO Jeb is a Bozo.  Oh, did I mention, that he is an "honorary" Cuban?

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Jeb_Bush_Immigration.htm

And what's your bleep problem with that?
Title: Re: Poll: Trump surges to biggest lead in New Hampshire, popular with independents, no McCain damage... By Byron York
Post by: DCPatriot on July 30, 2015, 10:23:28 am
And what's your bleep problem with that?

 :2popcorn:       :laugh: