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Trump's attacks could leave him friendless if impeachment comes
Richard Cowan AUGUST 17, 2017 / 4:11 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-senate-idUSKCN1AX2K3
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump has stepped up his attacks on Republican senators, an approach he may regret if he is someday impeached and the Senate has to weigh charges against him stemming from an investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.
More than half of the 11 Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which would be central to any proceeding to remove Trump from office, have tangled with the Republican president, including on Thursday when he fired off early-morning tweets.
In one Twitter series, Trump called Senator Lindsey Graham "publicity seeking" and said he "just can't forget his election trouncing" in the 2016 presidential race. Trump also assailed Senator Jeff Flake, another Republican critic, as "a non-factor in the Senate," adding, "He's toxic."
Flake and Graham are members of the Judiciary Committee, whose Chairman Chuck Grassley has urged Trump to tone it down.
"He should be 100 percent sticking to ideas and forget about personalities," Grassley said on Friday when pressed on whether Trump might find himself without the friends in Congress he would need to defend himself in an impeachment proceeding.
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Excerpt. Read more at http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-senate-idUSKCN1AX2K3
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The swamp doesn't want to be drained.
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Trump hasn't done any 'draining', he has filled his whole cabinet with swamp dwellers, called the Clintons 'good people' and plans to fund and rescue ObamaCare.
All Trump has done is poke everyone in the eyeballs, especially when his incompetence is laid bare.
Trump thought he could run the country like he does his little real estate empire. Mordor on the Potomac doesn't operate as his own royal realm. But Trump convinced the lot of you that he was the guy who was going to fight and do miracles on your behalf, most of it on his own strength, cunning, charisma and expertise.
Trump is and always was his own worst enemy.
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Nah. Flake, McCain, Graham; they are all never Trumpers and the worst kind of politician. They claim to be republicans but like everyone knows; they are nothing but low life RINO's in bed with the corrupt dems and other establishment GOPe.
It wouldn't matter how nice President Trump played with these bed lice; they would always stab him in the back. They are scorpions and scorpions will always do what they do. Anyone who has heard of the turtle and the scorpion story knows what I'm talking about.
I'm disappointed in this forum. All I hear is pro-leftist nonsense and anti-Trump junk. The same thing I hear from the Enemedia propaganda machine. If it were any further left it would be like DU. They should switch out the picture of Reagan with one of LBJ or obama.
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Trump's attacks could leave him friendless if impeachment comes
My posting history as you well may know has been critical of Trump.
Still..... this man has done nothing so far that would near warrant anything near impeachment. This is just another misdirection by the treasonously complicit MSM, and their effort to destroy this country.
I've asked maybe 5 or 6 mouth frothing liberals who want impeachment, what would be the charge. Not a one came through with what I would consider a provable offense. 3 came up with Russian interference, lol.
In any case, the chance of ever getting 2/3 of senate to vote for conviction is ZERO.
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Nah. Flake, McCain, Graham; they are all never Trumpers and the worst kind of politician. They claim to be republicans but like everyone knows; they are nothing but low life RINO's in bed with the corrupt dems and other establishment GOPe.
It wouldn't matter how nice President Trump played with these bed lice; they would always stab him in the back. They are scorpions and scorpions will always do what they do. Anyone who has heard of the turtle and the scorpion story knows what I'm talking about.
I'm disappointed in this forum. All I hear is pro-leftist nonsense and anti-Trump junk. The same thing I hear from the Enemedia propaganda machine. If it were any further left it would be like DU. They should switch out the picture of Reagan with one of LBJ or obama.
No one is forcing you to post here. 49 posts and a lot if them critical of this site. Why did you sign up?
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I'm disappointed in this forum. All I hear is pro-leftist nonsense and anti-Trump junk. The same thing I hear from the Enemedia propaganda machine. If it were any further left it would be like DU. They should switch out the picture of Reagan with one of LBJ or obama.
Maybe the most inaccurate representation of this site I have ever heard.
(1) Left of DU? After the early 2016 Purge at Free Republic, maybe the most true of conservatives (including myself) took residence here. Best online decision I ever made. Also can you cite one member here that is a liberal? I will be waiting for your response.
(2) Pro left and anti- Trump? Hate to tell ya bubba, but Trump himself was among the most liberal of the 17 POTUS candidates in the GOP primaries. That statement is beyond ridiculous. Nearly all of us FR refugees were Cruz supporters. Want to explain to us how Cruz was a liberal? BTW, would you please give me some specifics of what you are calling "pro-left nonsense" accusations?........Till then, I'll defer you to Mr. White...
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Nah. Flake, McCain, Graham; they are all never Trumpers and the worst kind of politician. They claim to be republicans but like everyone knows; they are nothing but low life RINO's in bed with the corrupt dems and other establishment GOPe.
It wouldn't matter how nice President Trump played with these bed lice; they would always stab him in the back. They are scorpions and scorpions will always do what they do. Anyone who has heard of the turtle and the scorpion story knows what I'm talking about.
I'm disappointed in this forum. All I hear is pro-leftist nonsense and anti-Trump junk. The same thing I hear from the Enemedia propaganda machine. If it were any further left it would be like DU. They should switch out the picture of Reagan with one of LBJ or obama.
@Freedom928
Then why are you still here?
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@Freedom928
Then why are you still here?
Could it be...
fishing8888 ?
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Not to worry. DT will always have mikepence.
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:pondering: In retrospect, maybe that wasn't so smart.
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:pondering: In retrospect, maybe that wasn't so smart.
Yep.... Maybe Trump should sit down with leaders from the House and the Senate and actually talk. Not tweet about how bad things are.
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Impeach the President for WHAT??? *****rollingeyes*****
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Impeach the President for WHAT??? *****rollingeyes*****
It has gotten old. I hope the calls for impeachment bite some people really really hard.
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It has gotten old. I hope the calls for impeachment bite some people really really hard.
Republican Senators should wake up and realize they are the ones without friends.
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Awfully hard to govern when your core support is less than 40%.
Help me out here...what chapter in The Art of the Deal discusses the benefits of being in attack mode 24/7/365?
How long will Mattis and Kelly be there to protect Trump from Trump?
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Nah. Flake, McCain, Graham; they are all never Trumpers and the worst kind of politician. They claim to be republicans but like everyone knows; they are nothing but low life RINO's in bed with the corrupt dems and other establishment GOPe.
It wouldn't matter how nice President Trump played with these bed lice; they would always stab him in the back. They are scorpions and scorpions will always do what they do. Anyone who has heard of the turtle and the scorpion story knows what I'm talking about.
I'm disappointed in this forum. All I hear is pro-leftist nonsense and anti-Trump junk. The same thing I hear from the Enemedia propaganda machine. If it were any further left it would be like DU. They should switch out the picture of Reagan with one of LBJ or obama.
Sorry, but this site was not meant to be exclusively for Trump worshipers. If you only want Trump adoration, you should go over to FR.
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In my opinion people like McConnell shouldn't be firing shots AT Trump. Trump's inexperience at being POTUS in no way excuses the actions and words of those pukes like McConnell.
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In my opinion people like McConnell shouldn't be firing shots AT Trump. Trump's inexperience at being POTUS in no way excuses the actions and words of those pukes like McConnell.
Ok, but I'm also tired of hearing how every misstep and every failure is exclusively the fault of liberal Republicans or whoever the scapegoat du jour is today. Trump is not entirely blameless in these matters. A real leader would adopt President Truman's motto -- the buck stops here -- stop whining and placing blame on others and show some true leadership by doing his utmost to fix whatever is wrong on his end. As President, he is supposed to lead the party or at the very least his input should have value. But it looks like Trump is unwilling to give any direction because he wants others to fail so he can assign blame.
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Ok, but I'm also tired of hearing how every misstep and every failure is exclusively the fault of liberal Republicans or whoever the scapegoat du jour is today. Trump is not entirely blameless in these matters. A real leader would adopt President Truman's motto -- the buck stops here -- stop whining and placing blame on others and show some true leadership by doing his utmost to fix whatever is wrong on his end. As President, he is supposed to lead the party or at the very least his input should have value. But it looks like Trump is unwilling to give any direction because he wants others to fail so he can assign blame.
Well, impeaching a sitting POTUS, or even calling for it for what I perceive to be NOTHING, is crap. What comes after that? I don't think that scenario has been well thought out by these people. I think it is a bad bad deal. He thinks he is playing them like a fiddle. They think they are playing him like a fiddle. I think they ALL need to stop fiddling and start doing their damn jobs.
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Republican Senators should wake up and realize they are the ones without friends.
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Republican Senators should wake up and realize they are the ones without friends.
Wait until the fantastic 3rd quarter economic numbers come in..., they are going to regret their cowardice, imo.
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Wait until the fantastic 3rd quarter economic numbers come in..., they are going to regret their cowardice, imo.
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Wait until the fantastic 3rd quarter economic numbers come in..., they are going to regret their cowardice, imo.
And they truly are cowards @DCPatriot I am surprised by how this unmasking has stunned me.
But it will not surprise me if the GOP Congressional caucus actively works against continued economic growth. They, for the most part, have proven the American people are not a part of their calculation for power.
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Wolves in sheep's clothing. At the mention they should be doing their jobs FOR the American people the fangs come out.
They wanted a Republican POTUS. They got one. They need to stop with their crap.
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Wolves in sheep's clothing. At the mention they should be doing their jobs FOR the American people the fangs come out.
They wanted a Republican POTUS. They got one. They need to stop with their crap.
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And they truly are cowards @DCPatriot I am surprised by how this unmasking has stunned me.
But it will not surprise me if the GOP Congressional caucus actively works against continued economic growth. They, for the most part, have proven the American people are not a part of their calculation for power.
Beginning REAL concern for President Trump's safety. It's gotten so bad/sick that they would put somebody on Lee's pedestal, if God forbid, somebody got to him. The Left would make him a hero for the Ages.
Problem here, IMO, is that even if he resigned, ...took every last cent out of the USA and remodeled a hollowed out volcano, they won't leave him alone.
And by "problem", I'm considering Trump, the Man. He will NEVER unilaterally resign. Not in his DNA.
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Sorry, but this site was not meant to be exclusively for Trump worshipers. If you only want Trump adoration, you should go over to FR.
Rush, Hannity, and Salem Radio are also safe spaces for Trump supporters.
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Wolves in sheep's clothing. At the mention they should be doing their jobs FOR the American people the fangs come out.
They wanted a Republican POTUS. They got one. They need to stop with their crap.
They wanted a Republican POTUS that supports globalism and the Swamp. They didnt get that.
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Frankly the who thing seems to be purposeful on Trump's part.
The man is a political suicide bomber.
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Frankly the who thing seems to be purposeful on Trump's part.
The man is a political suicide bomber.
I have been one of Trump's biggest critics here. Still, I am very happy he had the courage to call out Antifa,BLM, and the rest of the left wing domestic terrorist in last weekend's debacle.
Name me one other person in a GOP leadership role who has had the same balls to do that.
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Frankly the who(le) thing seems to be purposeful on Trump's part.
The man is a political suicide bomber.
You say that like it is a bad thing.
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Frankly the who thing seems to be purposeful on Trump's part.
The man is a political suicide bomber.
Reagan got a lot done (not all of it), despite having Tip O'Neil as the Speaker of the House.
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Wolves in sheep's clothing. At the mention they should be doing their jobs FOR the American people the fangs come out.
They wanted a Republican POTUS. They got one. They need to stop with their crap.
They wanted a Republican POTUS.
They do, but they want Pence.
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Reagan got a lot done (not all of it), despite having Tip O'Neil as the Speaker of the House.
Reagan's approach was the get the top three things that he wanted, and everything else was negotiable. And I always felt that is the best approach.
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Reagan got a lot done (not all of it), despite having Tip O'Neil as the Speaker of the House.
95% of Trump's attacks are directed at republicans and his fans are right there with him. They're the underpants gnomes of political destruction.
Step 1: Detroy GOP - Step 2: ? - Step 3: Glorious Victory.
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Reagan got a lot done (not all of it), despite having Tip O'Neil as the Speaker of the House.
Tip was a mensch.
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95% of Trump's attacks are directed at republicans and his fans are right there with him. They're the underpants gnomes of political destruction.
Step 1: Detroy GOP - Step 2: ? - Step 3: Glorious Victory.
Trump is the ultimate Talk Radio President.
All Trump has to do sit down and talk to Mitch (yes has to) find common ground (GASP!) and get something done. Is the Senate blameless no. But these attacks are not going to help him in the long term.
Flame away.
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Trump is the ultimate Talk Radio President.
All Trump has to do sit down and talk to Mitch (yes has to) find common ground (GASP!) and get something done. Is the Senate blameless no. But these attacks are not going to help him in the long term.
Flame away.
Mitch's common ground is the Democrat agenda.
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Trump has been "friendless" since the day he moved into the White House.
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Reagan got a lot done (not all of it), despite having Tip O'Neil as the Speaker of the House.
President Reagan was a leader. Instead of bad mouthing his adversaries all the time, he worked with them. That is one of the qualities of leadership.
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Trump has been "friendless" since the day he moved into the White House.
QFT
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President Reagan was a leader. Instead of bad mouthing his adversaries all the time, he worked with them. That is one of the qualities of leadership.
I pointed out a parallel situation Reagan had to deal with, the controversy when he decided to visit the German cemetery at Bitburg, that contained the graves of SS Soldiers. Reagan took a beating over that, but he stayed firm, and eventually many wound up praising him for doing it.
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Trump has been "friendless" since the day he moved into the White House.
At least in Washington DC for sure!
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Trump is the ultimate Talk Radio President.
All Trump has to do sit down and talk to Mitch (yes has to) find common ground (GASP!) and get something done. Is the Senate blameless no. But these attacks are not going to help him in the long term.
Flame away.
Well said. The President is the leader of his party. He has a choice: he can either lead or he can whine. So far, he's decided to do the later. Unfortunately, I have little confidence he's inclined or even capable of doing the former.
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But will he still be left friendless if we have an infestation of giant alien insects? Because that seems just as likely as impeachment, at this point.
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At least in Washington DC for sure!
The Strategy was to make it such a living Hell for Trump, because they figured he'll just say, "Screw it" and resign.
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Nah. Flake, McCain, Graham; they are all never Trumpers and the worst kind of politician. They claim to be republicans but like everyone knows; they are nothing but low life RINO's in bed with the corrupt dems and other establishment GOPe.
It wouldn't matter how nice President Trump played with these bed lice; they would always stab him in the back. They are scorpions and scorpions will always do what they do. Anyone who has heard of the turtle and the scorpion story knows what I'm talking about.
I'm disappointed in this forum. All I hear is pro-leftist nonsense and anti-Trump junk. The same thing I hear from the Enemedia propaganda machine. If it were any further left it would be like DU. They should switch out the picture of Reagan with one of LBJ or obama.
Hold on there. You've only been here a few days. Relax.
There are a few people who fit your description. There are way too many people who don't agree with me on everything, like they should.
But the mods are pretty good and personal insults are kept mostly in check.
If you want a forum to discuss issues, this is a good one.
If you want a forum where everyone agrees with you, keep looking.
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My posting history as you well may know has been critical of Trump.
Still..... this man has done nothing so far that would near warrant anything near impeachment. This is just another misdirection by the treasonously complicit MSM, and their effort to destroy this country.
I've asked maybe 5 or 6 mouth frothing liberals who want impeachment, what would be the charge. Not a one came through with what I would consider a provable offense. 3 came up with Russian interference, lol.
In any case, the chance of ever getting 2/3 of senate to vote for conviction is ZERO.
So true. Trump cannot be impeached but I'm afraid that he can lose the confidence of the people if this barrage continues (and it will) and if the little weenie Republicans who want to be liked by the media for 3 seconds don't shut their stupid mouths.
In the end, if cooler heads prevail, Romney, McCain, Linda Graham and others will be the losers, along with the American people if this prevents Trump from getting the good things he wants to do passed.
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Yep.... Maybe Trump should sit down with leaders from the House and the Senate and actually talk. Not tweet about how bad things are.
Maybe you should get a clue. Trump has already done that many times.
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In my opinion people like McConnell shouldn't be firing shots AT Trump. Trump's inexperience at being POTUS in no way excuses the actions and words of those pukes like McConnell.
McConnell has had way too much experience and he hasn't learned a dang thing.
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Well said. The President is the leader of his party. He has a choice: he can either lead or he can whine. So far, he's decided to do the later. Unfortunately, I have little confidence he's inclined or even capable of doing the former.
I must disagree.
Trump does whine in his tweets.
But to say he does nothing else is ridiculous.
That is a facile and uninformed position.
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I have been one of Trump's biggest critics here. Still, I am very happy he had the courage to call out Antifa,BLM, and the rest of the left wing domestic terrorist in last weekend's debacle.
Name me one other person in a GOP leadership role who has had the same balls to do that.
Amen, brother.
For way too long our political leadership has been too cowardly and too afraid of the media and what Jane Fonda might say about them.
Trump didn't even say anything outrageous, but simply not going all out against one side while excusing the other is outrageous in today's society.
For 8 years Obama encouraged radical leftist groups. Trump has supported the police. Obama never did. Well, he did give one cop a beer (beer summit).
There needs to be a moratorium on all these marches until more vetting can be done about who will participate and what their aims are. This is not shutting down free speech. It is common sense.
BLM can write letters to the editor for a while instead of marching.
And Trump gets some loyalty from me by defending Robert E. Lee (and old Traveler) and by pointing out that all statues and monuments ... except those to God ... are of flawed people.
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Amen, brother.
Better Call Saul is my favorite show, Excellent choice of icons.
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Hold on there. You've only been here a few days. Relax.
There are a few people who fit your description. There are way too many people who don't agree with me on everything, like they should.
But the mods are pretty good and personal insults are kept mostly in check.
If you want a forum to discuss issues, this is a good one.
If you want a forum where everyone agrees with you, keep looking.
I find this form much better than FR. At least this sites owner didn't call Trump a charlatan and his supporters fall for anything chumps then a few years later demand that everybody gets behind him or get kicked off the forum
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I find this form much better than FR. At least this sites owner didn't call Trump a charlatan and his supporters fall for anything chumps then a few years later demand that everybody gets behind him or get kicked off the forum
Give her time....
@mystery-ak
You know I'm kidding...
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I'm disappointed in this forum. All I hear is pro-leftist nonsense and anti-Trump junk. The same thing I hear from the Enemedia propaganda machine. If it were any further left it would be like DU. They should switch out the picture of Reagan with one of LBJ or obama.
*look*
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I must disagree.
Trump does whine in his tweets.
But to say he does nothing else is ridiculous.
That is a facile and uninformed position.
I don't recall seeing a plethora of examples of true Presidential leadership in Trump's interactions with Congress over the past 200+ days. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to better inform my facile position. :dx1:
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I don't recall seeing a plethora of examples of true Presidential leadership in Trump's interactions with Congress over the past 200+ days. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to better inform my facile position. :dx1:
People tend to see what they want to see.
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People tend to see what they want to see.
I'm always open to new facts and new information, and now that I've been accuse of having "a facile and uninformed opinion", I'm more eager than ever to gain from your apparent more extensive knowledge of the President's legislative leadership.
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The Strategy was to make it such a living Hell for Trump, because they figured he'll just say, "Screw it" and resign.
I've never been a huge Trump supporter, but I am not an enemy.
If he's done little else, he's filled a lot of court vacancies with good judges, from SCOTUS on down, and that will effect our rights and freedoms far more than other things that may come down the pike.
We can ultimately thank Harry Reid's "nuclear option" (ironically) but more federal Judges have been appointed by Trump, than by Bush or Obama.
I do agree with what you say about others trying to get him to resign.
He shouldn't resign, no matter how badly his opponents want him to.
If they ever find an impeachable offense, so be it, but I do not think they will (as far as I know) and they are wasting their time.
He is the duly elected President of the United States and should not resign.
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He shouldn't resign, no matter how badly his opponents want him to.
If they ever find an impeachable offense, so be it, but I do not think they will (as far as I know) and they are wasting their time.
He is the duly elected President of the United States and should not resign.
Noble, but ultimately irrelevant. I no longer think what the people want is anything the leaders in this country will abide by. Lawlessness has manifested itself into an intractable mechanism of permanence now.
I'm beginning to wonder if Trump is designated a sacrificial lamb, because if the removal of Trump succeeds - even if it is just all for show - the amount of power suddenly in the hands of the Left, the media and the State itself - is frightening to contemplate. Because they will have become self-aware of the fact they have the ability to neuter and remove whomever is president if he does not follow Statist doctrine and the Leftist agenda, regardless if an overwhelming majority of people voted for them.
That will forever manifest itself in how any opposition party to the Democrats operate and govern in the future.
Already it is being noted that Trump could lose an impeachment in the Senate, regardless of the fact that impeachment only happens in the House... but that too no longer matters when a lawless oligarchy is running things and the people have been ginned up to chant for whatever they have been led to tear down.
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I'm beginning to wonder if Trump is designated a sacrificial lamb, because if the removal of Trump succeeds - even if it is just all for show - the amount of power suddenly in the hands of the Left, the media and the State itself - is frightening to contemplate. Because they will have become self-aware of the fact they have the ability to neuter and remove whomever is president if he does not follow Statist doctrine and the Leftist agenda, regardless if an overwhelming majority of people voted for them.
When the Media propped him up during the primaries ( he had 3 times the coverage of the other 16 candidates combined), my thought was, they did it to get Hillary elected.
Trump did get elected, and I can't help but wonder if he wasn't choice number 2 all along, so the agenda can move forward, either way.
If they harass him enough, he leaves, and they win. If he stays, They render him ineffective (minus the judges I spoke about earlier).
He is thin skinned enough to fight back on almost everything they throw at him, not picking and choosing his battles carefully enough, on any given day.
Looks like the Left won, either way we went, and this is by design.
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When the Media propped him up during the primaries ( he had 3 times the coverage of the other 16 candidates combined), my thought was, they did it to get Hillary elected.
Trump did get elected, and I can't help but wonder if he wasn't choice number 2 all along, so the agenda can move forward, either way.
If they harass him enough, he leaves, and they win. If he stays, They render him ineffective (minus the judges I spoke about earlier).
He is thin skinned enough to fight back on almost everything they throw at him, not picking and choosing his battles carefully enough, on any given day.
Looks like the Left won, either way we went, and this is by design.
When it came down to a race between Trump and Cruz, the establishment chose Trump and Trump was happy to comply and start attacking Cruz for things like calling McConnell a liar. Trump even blew kisses at John Boehner just to show how much better he could get along with people than Ted Cruz.
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When it came down to a race between Trump and Cruz, the establishment chose Trump and Trump was happy to comply and start attacking Cruz for things like calling McConnell a liar. Trump even blew kisses at John Boehner just to show how much better he could get along with people than Ted Cruz.
Interesting, with today's news about Bannon:
Around that time you are referring to, I was listening to Briebart radio on XM, on the way to work one morning.
Bannon was interviewing Trump, (not long before Bannon went full Trump himself).
Trump said Cruz was "the worse liar he had ever known".
Even Bannon, said, "C'mon Mr. Trump, you don't really believe that, do you?"
Trump replied "He's right up there with them, believe me".
I think it was about the time the Heidi Cruz photo came out.
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When the Media propped him up during the primaries ( he had 3 times the coverage of the other 16 candidates combined), my thought was, they did it to get Hillary elected.
Trump did get elected, and I can't help but wonder if he wasn't choice number 2 all along, so the agenda can move forward, either way.
If they harass him enough, he leaves, and they win. If he stays, They render him ineffective (minus the judges I spoke about earlier).
He is thin skinned enough to fight back on almost everything they throw at him, not picking and choosing his battles carefully enough, on any given day.
Looks like the Left won, either way we went, and this is by design.
YUP. Amen.
I was even of the opinion that Trump was Hildabeast's stalking horse for the election.
Maybe he was and decided not to hit the mat and stay down for the count so she could 'win' because all the worshipping throngs had stoked his ego beyond what he could bear and suddenly he wanted to 'win'. I still look at the stunned media and Hillary camp and think they thought the fix was in and assured she would be crowned.
But ultimately, the Left and the Statists win, no matter what happens now.