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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Frank Cannon on July 26, 2017, 01:25:21 pm
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-26/president-trump-blocks-transgender-individuals-military-service
President Trump just sent liberal snowflakes across America scrambling with a 3-tweet statement sure to be the talking point that proves his fascist ways...
Donald J. Trump
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After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow......
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....Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming.....
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....victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Thank you
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WASHINGTON — President Trump said Wednesday via Twitter that the U.S. military will not accept transgender troops into its ranks or allow them to serve, reversing a policy begun under the Obama administration.
In a series of morning tweets, Trump said that, after consulting "with my generals and military experts," the U.S. government "will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military."
The U.S. military, he said, "must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail."
It’s unclear how the announcement will affect the estimated 6,000 transgender troops now serving. Under the policy announced in July 2016, those troops were allowed to serve openly. Prior to that the military discharged them for medical reasons.
Under Trump and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, the Pentagon delayed implementation of a key portion of the plan: requiring the services to being accepting and recruiting new officers and enlisted troops. The Army, Air Force and Marine Corps requested more time to implement the policy, saying they needed time to study the effects of accepting transgender troops.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/26/trump-no-transgender-individuals-military/511858001/
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Now this is a tweet I fully support Trump sending out.
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Just another reason we need to impeach Trump. This has to be unconstitutional in some way. Poor crossdressers.
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Trump: no transgender people will serve in U.S. military - Twitter
[Reuters]
ReutersJuly 26, 2017
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he would not allow transgender individuals to serve in the U.S. military in any capacity.
"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow ... Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump wrote on Twitter.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-no-transgender-people-serve-u-military-twitter-131526764.html
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Now this is a tweet I fully support Trump sending out.
Yup.
Although I still wish he'd stay off of Twitter.
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Trump: no transgender Crossdresser people will serve in U.S. military - Twitter
There. Fixed it.
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Excellent news. A very good decision, Mr. President!
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I agree
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I really have to say.... I am applauding Trump today on this. And I have to admit...
that I'm laughing my @ss off at the incoming indignation by leftist twits everywhere... that this latest tweeted proclamation of his will generate. You have to give him credit (if for nothing else)....
for having the ballz and the political uncorrectness to say it like it is ....
or like it should be. And this transgender insanity and nonsense needs to be nipped in the bud.
And once again, Trump has managed (daily?) to make shock-sure that his name is on the lips of most Americans and the lamestream media.
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The military is not a social experiment.
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Bradley Manning is going to be very upset over this news.
Hehehehehe.... :smokin:
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Glad to hear it if true..but he could tweet something tomorrow that is exactly the opposite position.... :whistle:
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Very happy with this.
The US military is not your laboratory for social experimentation.
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Glad to hear it if true..but he could tweet something tomorrow that is exactly the opposite position.... :whistle:
I sure hope not. DoD via Secretary Mattis put the brakes on the wholesale implementation of Transgenders into the ranks earlier this year...put the commissioning of 4(?) Transgender cadets from the Service Academies back in May on hold and just yesterday said the DoD needs to refocus on war fighting and combat training.
Something tells me this won't be reversed by a second tweet tomorrow.
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I hope he gets needed backing from the POWs(Pundits Oracles Wonks).
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Good...
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Very happy with this.
The US military is not your laboratory for social experimentation.
Liberals always push their social agenda a little farther each time they have the WH. Big Ears pushed us the farthest and alost to the brink...and it was done on purpose.
Something needs to be done in the next four years to ensure that the next time a Lib has CINC...he can't pick up where Barry left off.
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"I cannot spare this man .... he fights!"
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Glad to hear it if true..but he could tweet something tomorrow that is exactly the opposite position.... :whistle:
It is true.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?lang=en
And minutes later he uses Twitter to attack his own Attorney General.
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It is true.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?lang=en
And minutes later he uses Twitter to attack his own Attorney General.
:thud:
Pretty much sums up his Presidency so far.
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I sure hope not. DoD via Secretary Mattis put the brakes on the wholesale implementation of Transgenders into the ranks earlier this year...put the commissioning of 4(?) Transgender cadets from the Service Academies back in May on hold and just yesterday said the DoD needs to refocus on war fighting and combat training.
Something tells me this won't be reversed by a second tweet tomorrow.
Mattis has been very solid and Trump has pretty much let him run the DOD without interference. Can only hope he will continue to keep his short hands off the military...
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Great news. The armed forces should not condone or encourage mental illness.
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:thud:
Pretty much sums up his Presidency so far.
Aye...
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I'm sure Ivanka will be along shortly to change his mind.
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Mattis has been very solid and Trump has pretty much let him run the DOD without interference. Can only hope he will continue to keep his short hands off the military...
Yeah I never thought I'd be as happy to have a former Jar Head as my boss as I am right now! LOL!
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Great news. I've been waiting for this.
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I'm sure Ivanka will be along shortly to change his mind.
A solid possibility...
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"I cannot spare this man, he fights."
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This will end up in the courts the same as the travel bans from Jihad nations.
That said, YAY on the banning of confused gender perverts and here's to hoping he will do the same with the homosexual perverts.
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Good news. I wonder what happens with the ones that were already admitted.
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Here is my obligatory "Harumph!". Second of this presidency.
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This will end up in the courts the same as the travel bans from Jihad nations.
That said, YAY on the banning of confused gender perverts and here's to hoping he will do the same with the homosexual perverts.
The saddest part is that he won't fight to keep it because he doesn't believe it. He desperately needs a distraction.
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White House Dossier (http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2017/07/26/trump-transgenders-serve-military/)
Trump: Transgenders May Not Serve in the Military
Posted on July 26, 2017, 9:47 am by Keith Koffler
If you want to change your sex or, that not being completely possible, take steps in that direction, that’s your right. It is not your right to disrupt the cohesion of the United States military, which must be devoted to fighting wars and not be distracted by the sexual confusion of individuals who, in close quarters, must inevitably inflict their problem on the group and harm morale.
Trump is labeled crazy by his distractors. And yet, here he is bringing common sense back to policy. Who knew it would be possible to roll back progressivism’s “march of progress”? Surely neither Jeb Bush nor Marco Rubio would have had the courage to buck political correctness and do this. John Kasich wouldn’t have even wanted to. It is steps like these that are exactly why average Republicans defied the Party establishment and voted for Trump. ...
I support the president's decision. Mentally ill people need help, not a uniform and a gun. :patriot:
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Liberals always push their social agenda a little farther each time they have the WH. Big Ears pushed us the farthest and alost to the brink...and it was done on purpose.
Something needs to be done in the next four years to ensure that the next time a Lib has CINC...he can't pick up where Barry left off.
Absolutely! But what? How can anyone ensure that right now?
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Here is my obligatory "Harumph!". Second of this presidency.
Yes, Hedley. But there's no harrumph like a Trump harrumph. You should know that by now.
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It was a tremendous harrumph.
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Trump has done more for the Conservative cause than any president since Reagan. Well done. He's also helped bring the GOP back strong.
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Yes! Excellent news, way to go President Trump!
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Trump has done more for the Conservative cause than any president since Reagan. Well done. He's also helped bring the GOP back strong.
Reagan gave us the 86 amnesty, no knock laws, property forfeitures and out of control spending. He also won the cold war which was his primary goal.
Trumps goal is to make America great again. So far he is keeping his promises where he is able. Congress is not being very helpful.
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Absolutely! But what? How can anyone ensure that right now?
Legislation from Congress...Executive Order...something that would be very hard to undo once it is signed and/or passed into law by this Administration.
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Excellent.
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Trump has done more for the Conservative cause than any president since Reagan. Well done. He's also helped bring the GOP back strong.
Bull. The only "cause" he supports is his own. He told Conservatives he didn't need us remember?
We're all just lucky that this is a rare instance where his interests happen to coincide with the majority.
He's no Reagan as far as Conservatism goes and he's doing nothing to bring the GOP back "strong".
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Legislation from Congress...Executive Order...something that would be very hard to undo once it is signed and/or passed into law by this Administration.
Executive Orders can easily be 'undone' by the next president. And legislation from Congress, cohesive or not, doesn't seem to be doable these days. They don't seem to want to unravel the Obama disasters. Like I said.... how? I don't see it happening. JS....
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Trump has done more for the Conservative cause than any president since Reagan. Well done. He's also helped bring the GOP back strong.
:bigsilly:
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Executive Orders can easily be 'undone' by the next president. And legislation from Congress, cohesive or not, doesn't seem to be doable these days. They don't seem to want to unravel the Obama disasters. Like I said.... how? I don't see it happening. JS....
No I get what you're saying. Just depends on how much Trump and his administration would be willing to stand up to the push back they'd receive from the left if they tried to permanently halt the slow creep of social experimentation that is happening in the Armed Forces today.
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Now this is a tweet I fully support Trump sending out.
Yes, me too. Go Trump!
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This breaks my heart! I think I might cry. How am I going to break this to my husband?
It is going to break his heart too...
Fight for Chelsea Manning! LOL
So, I guess my plan to claim I'm a girl so I can shower with the women is off the table now?
He didn't mention trans-species. Maybe I can still claim that I am really a kitten trapped in a man's body? The women would love to have a little kitten to take care of wouldn't they. But, what if I'm a boy kitten who thinks he's a girl kitten. I wonder if that would disqualify me? Meow, meow, ...
I'm glad soldiers will not be forced to deal with other people's insanity with so many other issues and pressures they have to deal with every day.
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He told Conservatives he didn't need us remember?
You are confusing NeverTrumpers with conservatives. They are not the same. NeverTrumpers saw no difference between Hillary and Trump. Conservatives saw a huge difference, a real conservative would walk over hot coals and vote for the person most likely to stop Hillary from becoming POTUS.
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Yes, Hedley. But there's no harrumph like a Trump harrumph. You should know that by now.
I didn't get a Harrumph out of that guy........you watch your a$$!
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Yes, me too. Go Trump!
The question is what color light will they bathe the white house in tonight?
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I didn't get a Harrumph out of that guy........you watch your a$$!
lolol
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You are confusing NeverTrumpers with conservatives. They are not the same. NeverTrumpers saw no difference between Hillary and Trump. Conservatives saw a huge difference, a real conservative would walk over hot coals and vote for the person most likely to stop Hillary from becoming POTUS.
What..you got that a little backwards dear....most NT's ARE conservative.
If this comparison to Hillary and PP does not stop as of now I will allow Nazi photos in comparison to Trump's rallies....I can play this game to and I will win it!
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You are confusing NeverTrumpers with conservatives. They are not the same. NeverTrumpers saw no difference between Hillary and Trump. Conservatives saw a huge difference, a real conservative would walk over hot coals and vote for the person most likely to stop Hillary from becoming POTUS.
*****rollingeyes*****
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What..you got that a little backwards dear....most NT's ARE conservative.
If this comparison to Hillary and PP does not stop as of now I will allow Nazi photos in comparison to Trump's rallies....I can play this game to and I will win it!
:da man: Well, you know what I mean.
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Yes, Hedley. But there's no harrumph like a Trump harrumph. You should know that by now.
Thank you, Hedy.
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:da man: Well, you know what I mean.
That's a good point. Why don't we have a "You are the woman" emoticon?
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What..you got that a little backwards dear....most NT's ARE conservative.
If this comparison to Hillary and PP does not stop as of now I will allow Nazi photos in comparison to Trump's rallies....I can play this game to and I will win it!
It is your site and you can do what you want. Keep in mind I have never complained to you about any poster or any post. I can carry my own weight. And while some NeverTrumper have a few conservative thoughts floating in their mostly empty heads they are not conservatives they are cultists. The cult of NeverTrump.
The mere thought of Madame President would strike abject terror into the heart of any real conservative.
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@corbe might like a "big ovaries" emoticon. :)
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You are confusing NeverTrumpers with conservatives. They are not the same. NeverTrumpers saw no difference between Hillary and Trump. Conservatives saw a huge difference, a real conservative would walk over hot coals and vote for the person most likely to stop Hillary from becoming POTUS.
You crack me up.
That you argue a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat who funded the Clintons and the Democrat machine/Bill DeBlasio is different than the other lifelong liberal Democrat carpetbagger from NY is what is truly an illustration of imbecility.
No true Conservative votes for liberals and pushes them as the greatest thing since Jesus. EVER.
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That's a good point. Why don't we have a "You are the woman" emoticon?
:silly:
Women are men. Just take a man, add in the the woe, and....
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The mere thought of Madame President would strike abject terror into the heart of any real conservative.
It does. So do the words "President Trump".
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If this comparison to Hillary and PP does not stop as of now I will allow Nazi photos in comparison to Trump's rallies....I can play this game to and I will win it!
Game. Set. Match.
I bet you win.
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It is your site and you can do what you want. Keep in mind I have never complained to you about any poster or any post. I can carry my own weight. And while some NeverTrumper have a few conservative thoughts floating in their mostly empty heads they are not conservatives they are cultists. The cult of NeverTrump.
The mere thought of Madame President would strike abject terror into the heart of any real conservative.
NO one here voted for Hillary....people used their constitutional right to vote for another candidate on their ballot.
I don't know why you and others dwell on who people voted for..Trump won and that's all that should matter to you.
I reluctantly voted for Trump...I am more of a conservative than he will ever be.
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It does. So do the words "President Trump".
You people are hopeless
Open Borders
Nation building wars
No tax reform
No regulatory reform
No Obama Care repeal
No rebuilding our military
No draining the swamp
Yeah no difference between Trump and Hillary. /s
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You people are hopeless
Open Borders
Nation building wars
No tax reform
No regulatory reform
No Obama Care repeal
No rebuilding our military
No draining the swamp
Yeah no difference between Trump and Hillary. /s
Trump won! Get over it!
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And while some NeverTrumper have a few conservative thoughts floating in their mostly empty heads they are not conservatives they are cultists. The cult of NeverTrump.
You're projecting again.
BIGTIME.
The mere thought of Madame President would strike abject terror into the heart of any real conservative.
Real Conservatives were never afraid of an unhinged woman in a pantsuit. Unlike you EverTrumps, we do not see the Executive Branch as a monarchy.
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Women are men. Just take a man, add in the the woe, and....
So... you've been married, I take it. lol
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I reluctantly voted for Trump...I am more of a conservative than he will ever be.
That's because you are a sane rational person. Thankfully there were enough sane rational people to keep the beast out of the White House.
I only "went there" because this thread was turning into another bash Trump thread. So I felt the need to bash the bashers.
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You people are hopeless
Open Borders
Nation building wars
No tax reform
No regulatory reform
No Obama Care repeal
No rebuilding our military
No draining the swamp
Yeah no difference between Trump and Hillary. /s
The only thing on that list that Trump has done differently so far than Hillary is taking steps towards letting the Military refocus and train for its primary mission...a.k.a. rebuilding the military.
Other than that they are two sides of the same coin.
And as I look around...most of the people you would falsely label as NT are enthusiastically cheering his decision to bar trans genders from service.
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Some people just can not move on. Stop watering a dead flower.
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That's because you are a sane rational person. Thankfully there were enough sane rational people to keep the beast out of the White House.
I only "went there" because this thread was turning into another bash Trump thread. So I felt the need to bash the bashers.
When members come in and start spamming the thread that was completely positive towards Trump with crap like "he's the greatest conservative President since Reagan"...what do you expect the people who know better to say? Are we just supposed to be silent and let that blatant falsehood go unchallenged?
One of the blind Trump followers started the thread towards a Trump bashing even with his BS. And IMHO it was done on purpose.
Can't have a have a thread where the people who have been blasted as "NT" actually say nothing but positive things about the guy.
*****rollingeyes*****
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Trump won! Get over it!
I should put that in my signature line...
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It is your site and you can do what you want. Keep in mind I have never complained to you about any poster or any post. I can carry my own weight. And while some NeverTrumper have a few conservative thoughts floating in their mostly empty heads they are not conservatives they are cultists. The cult of NeverTrump.
The mere thought of Madame President would strike abject terror into the heart of any real conservative.
I wasn't going to, but ...................Just repalce Spawn with Trump, and here's the flip side of your NT coin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWSslKMMvqw
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The only thing on that list that Trump has done differently so far than Hillary is taking steps towards letting the Military refocus and train for its primary mission...a.k.a. rebuilding the military.
Other than that they are two sides of the same coin.
And as I look around...most of the people you would falsely label as NT are enthusiastically cheering his decision to bar trans genders from service.
You forgot the BIGGEST difference between Hildabeast and Trump:
Hildabeast doesn't Tweet. IIRC she testified she didn't know how to text on her phone, which we all know was Barbara Streisand, but hey - Hillary is either too ignorant of the service or has enough self-control not to illustrate herself a petulant blowhard on Twitter.
Trump on the other hand.......
Can't have a have a thread where the people who have been blasted as "NT" actually say nothing but positive things about the guy.
Because we are not allowed to say positive things about Trump unless we are full-devotees and prostrate ourselves in total devotion.
To be critical of Trump on some issues and praise him in others makes us 'fair weather saboteurs' according to EverTrump and they have made it clear that they do not need nor want that kind of support from us.
Total devotion, or we're traitors.
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So... you've been married, I take it. lol
She got both my balls in the settlement. She had them bronzed and mounted on a plaque. I'm not in touch with her personally anymore, so who knows how many others are keeping mine company by now.
My experience with my exwife made me staunchly pro gay marriage. Those poor guys have no idea what they are getting into with that. I say, let'um suffer like the rest of us. BTW, that was not a joke. If the gays want to get the government, and lawyers, and courts, and police, and the sheriff, involved in their life and relationships, go for it. Do it! I wouldn't attend one of their 'weddings', but just on general purposes, I say go for it! See what you get.
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She got both my balls in the settlement. She had them bronzed and mounted on a plaque. I'm not in touch with her personally anymore, so who knows how many others are keeping mine company by now.
My experience with my exwife made me staunchly pro gay marriage. Those poor guys have no idea what they are getting into with that. I say, let'um suffer like the rest of us. BTW, that was not a joke. If the gays want to get the government, and lawyers, and courts, and police, and the sheriff, involved in their life and relationships, go for it. Do it! I wouldn't attend one of their 'weddings', but just on general purposes, I say go for it! See what you get.
Yeah, I picked up on that bitter byte...lol. As for gay marriage, I wasn't for it, but I figured why shouldn't they have to pay MORE taxes (Democrats reinstalled the marriage penalty that Bush removed) merely for being married, like the heterosexuals have to pay. Right?
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What..you got that a little backwards dear....most NT's ARE conservative.
Of course most NTs are conservative. They tend to be conservatives who oppose the alt-right racists who've attached themselves to Trump like barnacles, and Trump's rhetoric of back-to-the-thirties isolationism and protectionism.
Most of us who claim to be conservative utterly reject racism and identity politics, and understand that the United States, for better or worse, has assumed the mantle of military and economic leadership in the free world. Other NTs are put off by Trump's style - his impulsiveness, his superficiality, his impatience, his demands for loyalty without reciprocity.
But most of us who were NeverTrump before the election are perfectly willing to give Trump a chance to govern, and oppose the nihilists who seek to overturn the results of a free and fair election.
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You are confusing NeverTrumpers with conservatives. They are not the same. NeverTrumpers saw no difference between Hillary and Trump. Conservatives saw a huge difference, a real conservative would walk over hot coals and vote for the person most likely to stop Hillary from becoming POTUS.
:bigsilly:
You wouldn't know a conservative from a hole in the ground.
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As ex-infantry, I fully support this, but it's not that important in the grand scheme of things.
I guess when you are failing at everything important, you toss out some generally meaningless "win" to the base.
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Now this is a tweet I fully support Trump sending out.
Makes total sense. However, George Takei is fighting mad and he is a really tough guy.
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But most of us who were NeverTrump before the election are perfectly willing to give Trump a chance to govern, and oppose the nihilists who seek to overturn the results of a free and fair election.
@Jazzhead
Exactly!
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As ex-infantry, I fully support this, but it's not that important in the grand scheme of things.
I guess when you are failing at everything important, you toss out some generally meaningless "win" to the base.
It is not meaningless to the majority of posters here. And it is not meaningless in the general scheme of things.
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You are confusing NeverTrumpers with conservatives. They are not the same. NeverTrumpers saw no difference between Hillary and Trump. Conservatives saw a huge difference, a real conservative would walk over hot coals and vote for the person most likely to stop Hillary from becoming POTUS.
Wow - cancel the internet for the rest of the day. The prize for the dumbest thing said on it has just been won!
(Although there is still time for Trump to tweet something out, I suppose.)
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Of course most NTs are conservative. They tend to be conservatives who oppose the alt-right racists who've attached themselves to Trump like barnacles, and Trump's rhetoric of back-to-the-thirties isolationism and protectionism.
Most of us who claim to be conservative utterly reject racism and identity politics, and understand that the United States, for better or worse, has assumed the mantle of military and economic leadership in the free world. Other NTs are put off by Trump's style - his impulsiveness, his superficiality, his impatience, his demands for loyalty without reciprocity.
But most of us who were NeverTrump before the election are perfectly willing to give Trump a chance to govern, and oppose the nihilists who seek to overturn the results of a free and fair election.
Agree with you 100% on this. Well said.
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...I reluctantly voted for Trump...I am more of a conservative than he will ever be.
Conservatives have been reluctantly voting in the Presidential election since 1988. :shrug:
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Conservatives have been reluctantly voting in the Presidential election since 1988. :shrug:
Good point.
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Conservatives have been reluctantly voting in the Presidential election since 1988. :shrug:
Right, so when Republicans throw something out and we say No Way, it woukd have been smart to listen up.
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Excellent job, Mr. President!
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Fantastic news, and well done, Mr. President.
I am curious how and when this will be implemented, though. @RoosGirl asked a very good question a couple of pages upstream: What happens to the transgender individuals currently serving? Are they discharged immediately ... phased out ... what? Are they eligible for veterans' benefits?
Per the article:
The announcement represents a major shift in US military policy; the decision will affect nearly 150,000 active and/or retired/veteran people on service in the US military.
What is the impact to retired/veteran service members?
It seems there is quite a bit more to be hashed out, policy-wise, but it is great to see the ship correcting course.
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Just another reason we need to impeach Trump. This has to be unconstitutional in some way. Poor crossdressers.
Remember when we used to say 'color me?' Well, color me amazed that there are 6,000 transgenders in the military now.
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GOP senators break with Trump over transgender troop ban
By John Bowden - 07/26/17 01:22 PM EDT
Multiple Republican senators broke with President Trump on Wednesday after he announced on Twitter than transgender troops would be banned from serving in the military.
In separate statements, GOP Sens. John McCain (Ariz.), Joni Ernst (Iowa), Richard Shelby (Ala.), and Orrin Hatch (Utah) all criticized Trump for his decision that Obama-era rules allowing transgender troops to serve would be reversed.
McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, ripped the call and said that Trump shouldn't be making policy announcements via tweet.
“The President’s tweet this morning regarding transgender Americans in the military is yet another example of why major policy announcements should not be made via Twitter," McCain wrote in his statement.
“The statement was unclear," he added. "The Department of Defense has already decided to allow currently-serving transgender individuals to stay in the military, and many are serving honorably today. Any American who meets current medical and readiness standards should be allowed to continue serving."
"There is no reason to force service members who are able to fight, train, and deploy to leave the military — regardless of their gender identity."
Hatch concurred, asking Trump for more "clarity" on the policy.
"I don't think we should be discriminating against anyone," Hatch wrote. "Transgender people are people, and deserve the best we can do for them. I look forward to getting much more information and clarity from our military leaders about the policy the president tweeted today."
Speaking on CNN, Shelby was more apprehensive about directly contradicting the president, but praised current military policy allowing transgender troops as "a big tent for people who want to serve."
"That would be a reversal of the current policy," Shelby said on CNN. "The current policy is a big tent for people who want to serve. You've got to remember, our military force is a voluntary force. I'll have to see what he actually said, read his tweet and go from there from current policy."
"You ought to treat everybody fairly and give everybody a chance to serve," he added.
A spokeswoman for Ernst told The Des Moines Register that the Iowa Republican, who is a veteran, would oppose the ban.
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http://thehill.com/policy/defense/343914-gop-senators-criticize-trump-over-transgender-troop-ban (http://thehill.com/policy/defense/343914-gop-senators-criticize-trump-over-transgender-troop-ban)
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I really have to say.... I am applauding Trump today on this. And I have to admit...
that I'm laughing my @ss off at the incoming indignation by leftist twits everywhere... that this latest tweeted proclamation of his will generate. You have to give him credit (if for nothing else)....
for having the ballz and the political uncorrectness to say it like it is ....
or like it should be. And this transgender insanity and nonsense needs to be nipped in the bud.
And once again, Trump has managed (daily?) to make shock-sure that his name is on the lips of most Americans and the lamestream media.
Yes, he did manage that. Wow. Some pundit called it the ultimate shiny ball, but who cares.
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GOP senators break with Trump over transgender troop ban
By John Bowden - 07/26/17 01:22 PM EDT
Multiple Republican senators broke with President Trump on Wednesday after he announced on Twitter than transgender troops would be banned from serving in the military.
In separate statements, GOP Sens. John McCain (Ariz.), Joni Ernst (Iowa), Richard Shelby (Ala.), and Orrin Hatch (Utah) all criticized Trump for his decision that Obama-era rules allowing transgender troops to serve would be reversed.
McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, ripped the call and said that Trump shouldn't be making policy announcements via tweet.
“The President’s tweet this morning regarding transgender Americans in the military is yet another example of why major policy announcements should not be made via Twitter," McCain wrote in his statement.
“The statement was unclear," he added. "The Department of Defense has already decided to allow currently-serving transgender individuals to stay in the military, and many are serving honorably today. Any American who meets current medical and readiness standards should be allowed to continue serving."
"There is no reason to force service members who are able to fight, train, and deploy to leave the military — regardless of their gender identity."
Hatch concurred, asking Trump for more "clarity" on the policy.
"I don't think we should be discriminating against anyone," Hatch wrote. "Transgender people are people, and deserve the best we can do for them. I look forward to getting much more information and clarity from our military leaders about the policy the president tweeted today."
Speaking on CNN, Shelby was more apprehensive about directly contradicting the president, but praised current military policy allowing transgender troops as "a big tent for people who want to serve."
"That would be a reversal of the current policy," Shelby said on CNN. "The current policy is a big tent for people who want to serve. You've got to remember, our military force is a voluntary force. I'll have to see what he actually said, read his tweet and go from there from current policy."
"You ought to treat everybody fairly and give everybody a chance to serve," he added.
A spokeswoman for Ernst told The Des Moines Register that the Iowa Republican, who is a veteran, would oppose the ban.
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http://thehill.com/policy/defense/343914-gop-senators-criticize-trump-over-transgender-troop-ban (http://thehill.com/policy/defense/343914-gop-senators-criticize-trump-over-transgender-troop-ban)
Totally agree inasmuch as major policy decisions should not be announced via twitter. Trump is such a disaster.
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It does. So do the words "President Trump".
I think you've gone way too far with that statement.
Do not compare the two. Infuriating as Trump can be, he's still 100 times better than Hillary.
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The only thing on that list that Trump has done differently so far than Hillary is taking steps towards letting the Military refocus and train for its primary mission...a.k.a. rebuilding the military.
Other than that they are two sides of the same coin.
And as I look around...most of the people you would falsely label as NT are enthusiastically cheering his decision to bar trans genders from service.
To be absolutely fair, Trump has managed to do a few thing just by being President. Border crossings have decreased dramatically. The stock market has gone up. Business is more optimistic. I forget the rest but some of the things that HAVE NOT been done are due to Congressional opposition and laziness.
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Yes, he did manage that. Wow. Some pundit called it the ultimate shiny ball, but who cares.
If he waffles on this.... or goes back on it due to pressure from azholes like McCain.... you won't believe the backlash that will occur. No shiny ball in the universe will be glittery enough to distract from it. He needs to stick to his guns on this issue, if on nothing else.
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I think you've gone way too far with that statement.
Do not compare the two. Infuriating as Trump can be, he's still 100 times better than Hillary.
I'm okay with us disagreeing.
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Back to the topic at hand.
Great news. Our our military is a fighting force, not a government-funded, politically correct, medical sex change clinic for mentally ill people with gender dysphoria.
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Conservatives have been reluctantly voting in the Presidential election since 1988. :shrug:
So true.
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What..you got that a little backwards dear....most NT's ARE conservative.
If this comparison to Hillary and PP does not stop as of now I will allow Nazi photos in comparison to Trump's rallies....I can play this game to and I will win it!
@mystery-ak
Does that include use of terms like "Rumpers" for anyone who doesn't condemn Trump for anything and everything? The broad insults you've been allowing are no different and extremely inflammatory.
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Back to the topic at hand.
Great news. Our our military is a fighting force, not a government-funded, politically correct, medical sex change clinic for mentally ill people with gender dysphoria.
Au Contraire. The Republican Party Oligarchy looks at the military the way Obama and the Left does with the only difference being using it to fund their military contractor lobbyists and to use it to police the world for the safety of their commercial supporters.
Gone are the days of simplistic wisdom when the military was seen as the instrument to kill the enemy and break their shit so they cannot pose a threat to us.
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@mystery-ak
Does that include use of terms like "Rumpers" for anyone who doesn't condemn Trump for anything and everything? The broad insults you've been allowing are no different and extremely inflammatory.
I don't remember seeing that term before, so I did a search. It may be out there, but I couldn't find it. Do you have an example, @driftdiver?
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@mystery-ak
Does that include use of terms like "Rumpers" for anyone who doesn't condemn Trump for anything and everything? The broad insults you've been allowing are no different and extremely inflammatory.
Rumpers! LOL! Never seen it before here, but I like it!
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Total active fighting force in the U.S. Armed Forces is approximately 1.3 million...and we were being told that we had to cater to and spend money for roughly 7 thousand soldiers on active duty and another 1,500 in the reserves who have this mental illness?
That's insane! Imagine the money that could have gone to important things the military needs that was being allocated for this BS.
The left and the SJW's can cry and wail and make all kinds of over the top accusations about how awful this decision is for the country.
But the moral of the soldiers in uniform just went up tremendously with this decision and I applaud the President and the SecDef for being brave enough to pull the trigger on stopping this looney social experiment before it became too entrenched to reverse.
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I don't remember seeing that term before, so I did a search. It may be out there, but I couldn't find it. Do you have an example, @driftdiver?
@Sanguine
Here's the ONLY example that comes up on search for this poor, aggrieved victim of harrassment:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,202077.msg836685.html#msg836685
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I don't remember seeing that term before, so I did a search. It may be out there, but I couldn't find it. Do you have an example, @driftdiver?
I hadn't seen it before either. Thanks for doing a search for it. Of course, the member that claimed such a thing has been known to stre-e-e-t-t-c-c-h-h the truth just a wee bit.
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Does that include use of terms like "Rumpers" for anyone who doesn't condemn Trump for anything and everything? The broad insults you've been allowing are no different and extremely inflammatory.
For a bunch of people who pretend they are fighters for Trump and applaud all the insulting Tweets and disparagement of those they and their ruler target for ridicule and personal destruction, you certainly spend an inordinate amount of time whining like little petulant school girls. You folks have a penchant to incite and stir up inflammatories every time you read a post that is critical of your behavior or Trump's.
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder522/500x/51769522/baby-crying-tears-waaaaa-its-not-fair.jpg)
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@Sanguine
Here's the ONLY example that comes up on search for this poor, aggrieved victim of harrassment:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,202077.msg836685.html#msg836685
It is an interesting thread...
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Good news and thank you POTUS. 888high58888
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Total active fighting force in the U.S. Armed Forces is approximately 1.3 million...and we were being told that we had to cater to and spend money for roughly 7 thousand soldiers on active duty and another 1,500 in the reserves who have this mental illness?
That's insane! Imagine the money that could have gone to important things the military needs that was being allocated for this BS.
The left and the SJW's can cry and wail and make all kinds of over the top accusations about how awful this decision is for the country.
But the moral of the soldiers in uniform just went up tremendously with this decision and I applaud the President and the SecDef for being brave enough to pull the trigger on stopping this looney social experiment before it became too entrenched to reverse.
Former Defense Secretary Ashton Carter lifted the ban on transgender people serving openly in 2016, and commissioned a report by the RAND Corporation that studied the consequences of the ruling. There is no official or exact figure for how many transgender people serve. But the 2016 RAND study estimated that between 1,320 and 6,630 transgender service members are in the active duty military, while between 830 and 4,160 members are in reserves duty.
What the libs fail to understand is the ban never was about the cost to pay for the sex change and associated care.
It is about one thing. The military is expected to prepare its members in warfare: to kill, destroy, and break our enemies. The most important factors in preparing a strong military are not hormone therapy, surgical sex changes, or politically correct education.
Trump eliminated one distraction to the main objective of our armed forces..
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I don't remember seeing that term before, so I did a search. It may be out there, but I couldn't find it. Do you have an example, @driftdiver?
What the hell am I your secretary?
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I hadn't seen it before either. Thanks for doing a search for it. Of course, the member that claimed such a thing has been known to stre-e-e-t-t-c-c-h-h the truth just a wee bit.
Oh that hurts coming from you. Deeply
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@mystery-ak
Does that include use of terms like "Rumpers" for anyone who doesn't condemn Trump for anything and everything? The broad insults you've been allowing are no different and extremely inflammatory.
This and other derogatory terms are used repeatedly. Said use is intended as a direct insult of the supporters of this elected Republican President on a site named GOP with Reagan's picture on the main page.
To claim it is not used frequently is perfect evidence somebody isn't honestly paying attention.
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Oh that hurts coming from you. Deeply
It's okay, I know that winning is more important than integrity for you. To each his own.
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What the libs fail to understand is the ban never was about the cost to pay for the sex change and associated care.
It is about one thing. The military is expected to prepare its members in warfare: to kill, destroy, and break our enemies. The most important factors in preparing a strong military are not hormone therapy, surgical sex changes, or politically correct education.
Trump eliminated one distraction to the main objective of our armed forces..
@Wingnut
I said for 8 years that I was a firm believer that Obama hated everything this country has stood for since it's inception...to include the military and he did everything he could to break us. He despised the fact that 70% of us would never vote for him and that we were doing our *gasp* patriotic duty by serving.
Everything he did to us was to try and break the morale of those of us proud to wear the uniform and force us out so we could be replaced by politically correct know nothings who were more than willing to along with his PC crap...not to mention the freaks he permitted to serve openly and the ass kissers who would do anything he said to get another stripe.
They wanted us to be a force for green energy and social justice and well Big Ears just never could understand that the military isn't built for that...we're designed to blow the sh*t out of things kill the enemy before they kill us and occupy large areas of land in defense of freedom and liberty.
That's it that's all.
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This and other derogatory terms are used repeatedly. Said use is intended as a direct insult of the supporters of this elected Republican President on a site named GOP with Reagan's picture on the main page.
To claim it is not used frequently is perfect evidence somebody isn't honestly paying attention.
You did see that @bolobaby searched for the term here and only 1 instance came up?
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This and other derogatory terms are used repeatedly. Said use is intended as a direct insult of the supporters of this elected Republican President on a site named GOP with Reagan's picture on the main page.
To claim it is not used frequently is perfect evidence somebody isn't honestly paying attention.
What a one sided selective memory you have.
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@Wingnut
I said for 8 years that I was a firm believer that Obama hated everything this country has stood for since it's inception...to include the military and he did everything he could to break us. He despised the fact that 70% of us would never vote for him and that we were doing our *gasp* patriotic duty by serving.
Everything he did to us was to try and break the morale of those of us proud to wear the uniform and force us out so we could be replaced by politically correct know nothings who were more than willing to along with his PC crap...not to mention the freaks he permitted to serve openly and the ass kissers who would do anything he said to get another stripe.
They wanted us to be a force for green energy and social justice and well Big Ears just never could understand that the military isn't built for that...we're designed to blow the sh*t out of things kill the enemy before they kill us and occupy large areas of land in defense of freedom and liberty.
That's it that's all.
Amen my brother from another mother!
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This and other derogatory terms are used repeatedly. Said use is intended as a direct insult of the supporters of this elected Republican President on a site named GOP with Reagan's picture on the main page.
To claim it is not used frequently is perfect evidence somebody isn't honestly paying attention.
@truth_seeker
Its been used several times as have similiar derogatory terms. The pack mentality we see on this thread in response to my very reasonable post is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Same shit happened at TOS. They start throwing insults and cheap shots and its apparently just fine.
@mystery-ak
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@driftdiver
Your disgusting comment has been removed.
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This and other derogatory terms are used repeatedly. Said use is intended as a direct insult of the supporters of this elected Republican President on a site named GOP with Reagan's picture on the main page.
To claim it is not used frequently is perfect evidence somebody isn't honestly paying attention.
Hey @truth_seeker - you are aware that this site has a search feature, right?
Juuuuuuust checking. You know... for someone with "truth" in their name...
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What the hell am I your secretary?
No, my secretary would have provided the information without having to be asked.
The one example found was from a year and a half ago, and was referring to those who didn't support Trump.
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Hey, a thread where an action by the President is being universally praised. Not seen one of these for a while.
Note to the posters on the last couple of pages who decided to play - screw this thread up and you will be on the outside looking in for several days. Tired of your BS and whining, from both supporters and non supporters.
Grow up or go home.
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You did see that @bolobaby searched for the term here and only 1 instance came up?
The "search" function on this site is not solid.
My eyes and mind and memory are solid.
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@driftdriver THAT was a personal Insult to my Friend @Roosgirl and though she can handle her own pretty well (as can most the ladies here) that stuff is not tolerated here and you know it.
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Hey @truth_seeker - you are aware that this site has a search feature, right?
Juuuuuuust checking. You know... for someone with "truth" in their name...
I do not even waste my time with that search function, after trying several times only to learn it is a joke.
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I do not even waste my time with that search function, after trying several times only to learn it is a joke.
I was not aware that $80,000 a quarter can buy you a better search function.
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Honest to God I can't believe what I'm seeing happen in here.
We have a thread where everyone and I mean everyone seems to be pleased if not out right ecstatic over a decision that President Trump made, and the very people who do the loudest complaining that certain members never say anything positive about the President show up and turn a positive upbeat thread into a poop flinging contest, then have the audacity to complain about how they are treated?
Seriously?
Instead of relishing in and enjoying the fact everyone for the most part is in agreement, some people don't want to let that happen because, well it totally ruins their childish "TBR is a Never Trump Safe Haven" meme.
To those disgruntled disruptors I say grow up, now.
If it pains you so much to see everyone happy with a Trump decision that you have to come in and crap on the rug just to spoil the good vibe I suggest you go grumble among the other perennial grouches via PM or start a thread in a members only section where you can all console one another in your misery that everyone was getting along on a thread.
Just don't continue to do it in this thread. Stop calling out the owner in public because you want to vent your spleen about the fact you're unhappy that everyone else is so happy and stop creating drama where there shouldn't be any just because you are unhappy with happiness and agreement.
And unless you want to have me send you to the corner where you can mull over your unhappiness at everyone elses joy in silence, it's probably a good idea not to try even in the faintest way to do anything in regards to what I've just said except to stay on topic and quit being a damn joy thief.
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Remember when we used to say 'color me?' Well, color me amazed that there are 6,000 transgenders in the military now.
I think a lot of people are pretty isolated from it and don't realize how many of these folks are out there...no pun intended.
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Just did a search on the term "hitler" which the owner herself, but the search did not find it.
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The "search" function on this site is not solid.
My eyes and mind and memory are solid.
Are you claiming that Google.com search isn't solid?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Agopbriefingroom.com+%22Rumpers%22
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Just did a search on the term "hitler" which the owner herself, but the search did not find it.
@truth_seeker
Googles search feature works a little better but not great. The software here must keep google from indexing all the comments.
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Are you claiming that Google.com search isn't solid?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Agopbriefingroom.com+%22Rumpers%22
No google search doesn't work all that well on this site. Its not even finding your posts.
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Just did a search on the term "hitler" which the owner herself, but the search did not find it.
That's odd. I just searched that word and got 30 hits.
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Are you claiming that Google.com search isn't solid?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Agopbriefingroom.com+%22Rumpers%22
I only claim, what I claim. The claim had been the SEARCH ON THIS SITE, did not reveal the use of the term in question.
Update. My bad. I stated the owner used the term "hitler," but upon re-checking I learned she used the term Nazi earlier today.
But the substantive aspect, the search did NOT find that usage either, earlier today. Claim stands, search not solid.
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I only claim, what I claim. The claim had been the SEARCH ON THIS SITE, did not reveal the use of the term in question.
@truth_seeker either make a comment about the original subject of this thread or go elsewhere.
Continue to focus and complain about something that has nothing to do with the OP and you're heading for a time out.
That goes for anyone else who continues to follow him down this rabbit hole.
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Honest to God I can't believe what I'm seeing happen in here.
We have a thread where everyone and I mean everyone seems to be pleased if not out right ecstatic over a decision that President Trump made, and the very people who do the loudest complaining that certain members never say anything positive about the President show up and turn a positive upbeat thread into a poop flinging contest, then have the audacity to complain about how they are treated?
Needed to be repeated in bold and in a larger font size to emphasize the truth of what happened on this thread.
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The MODS and I are sick of this tit for tat name calling ..so and so said this..everybody grow a pair and suck it it...my 3yo grandson doesn't even whine like this.
If it bothers you so much file a post report..all reports are looked at...if you don't file one we figure if it doesn't bother you it doesn't bother us.
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This is excellent, no doubt about it. Better get ear plugs for the shrieking that will ensue over the coming days.
However, I do think Trump made the announcement rather than Mattis to deflect from the Sessions mess and get some of his base back on his side.
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You are confusing NeverTrumpers with conservatives. They are not the same. NeverTrumpers saw no difference between Hillary and Trump. Conservatives saw a huge difference, a real conservative would walk over hot coals and vote for the person most likely to stop Hillary from becoming POTUS.
@jpsb
(http://i.imgur.com/Jc4soeF.jpg)
And I mean that in a friendly way.
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This is excellent, no doubt about it. Better get ear plugs for the shrieking that will ensue over the coming days.
However, I do think Trump made the announcement rather than Mattis to deflect from the Sessions mess and get some of his base back on his side.
Definitely. There is no question that this was a strategic post with no actual 'weight' behind it. It is only an expression of preference and intent. But even that is more than enough to cause the MSM heads to explode. It will be the topic of talking heads for the next few days. And Trump knows that full well.
Trump plays the MSM like a violin. And they fall for it every single time.
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Definitely. There is no question that this was a strategic post with no actual 'weight' behind it. It is only an expression of preference and intent. But even that is more than enough to cause the MSM heads to explode. It will be the topic of talking heads for the next few days. And Trump knows that full well.
Trump plays the MSM like a violin. And they fall for it every single time.
They've already started their doom and gloom end of civilization as we know it predictions because the President did the right thing.
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Trump plays the MSM like a violin. And they fall for it every single time.
Word.
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Considering that there is no way to really tell who is "transgendered", I don't see how this is anything but a NothingBurger designed to deflect our attention from important items.
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This is excellent, no doubt about it. Better get ear plugs for the shrieking that will ensue over the coming days.
However, I do think Trump made the announcement rather than Mattis to deflect from the Sessions mess and get some of his base back on his side.
We have yet to see if he buckles and reverses this course now that GOP big-wigs are opposing him on it.
I hope not, but I will not be surprised if he does given recent history.
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As ex-infantry, I fully support this, but it's not that important in the grand scheme of things.
I guess when you are failing at everything important, you toss out some generally meaningless "win" to the base.
@bolobaby, I think it's very important. Dana Loesch just did a great monologue on the dangers of mentally unstable people in the military, and she's right.
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@bolobaby, I think it's very important. Dana Loesch just did a great monologue on the dangers of mentally unstable people in the military, and she's right.
You mean like Bradley/Chelsea Manning?
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What the hell am I your secretary?
Good grief.
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:2popcorn:
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The mere thought of Madame President would strike abject terror into the heart of any real conservative.
It would depend on whom we would have to address as Madame President, says this #NeverTrumparian/#Never Hillarumprer.
(I voted "None of These Candidates" for president. I don't like being offered nothing better than a choice among arsonists for
putting out the fire consuming the national house.)
As for the subject at hand, I just don't buy it. The timing was just a little too convenient. I'm not exactly on board with the
idea of transsexuals in the military, but anyone who thinks Donaldus Minimus had anything truly in mind other than something
to smokescreen the Sessions/Russia investigation chaos should think again. Hard. Mattis could have made the announcement
himself no matter what flak he might catch from the usual suspects, but I get an ugly little feeling that the heretofore-uninterfered-
with defense secretary's days of not being interfered with may be numbered, too, at last. I hope I'm wrong about that much.
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You mean like Bradley/Chelsea Manning?
@Sanguine
Yep, that guy! Uh...
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Saw these tweets and thought they should be shared (edited to make more readable and less profane):
J.R. Salzman @jrsalzman
11:33 AM - 26 Jul 2017
I served in Iraq in 2006. For the first five months I was on a 12 man firebase out in the middle of nowhere in the desert. Everyday was Groundhog Day. Wake up and do the same patrols, the same shifts, every single day. It was so damn hot. 150° in the gun trucks.
Tracer fire would go overhead occasionally at night. IED's on the road were a daily threat. We got resupplied food every 8 days. QRF was an hour away. After they made the minimum three gun truck rule after the guys got kidnapped, life got harder.
The stress of being out there and doing the same job every single day eats away at you. The younger guys had problems with that overtime. Any tiny little personal issue they had suddenly became a mountain. And that shit came out on that fire base. And they snapped mentally.
After stepping on each other's nuts living in the same can for five months, guys were at each other's throats. The stress made it worse.
Guys would literally snap over a dear John letter. Their personal issues came out and they were instantly combat ineffective.
Now take someone confused about whether they are a man/woman. Take those psychological and emotional issues and put them in that environment
Take someone who is right off the bat not uniform or part of the same team. Give them special treatment because of their identity.
Take that person, put them in that stressful war environment and watch what happens. It's a f*****g ticking time bomb.
You have to be incredibly tough mentally, physically and emotionally. War is not a f*****g video game. It tests every ounce of your being.
You can't teach someone to be a fearless warrior in a f*****g PowerPoint. You either have it or you don't. You can hack it or you can't. We had guys who couldn't. When faced with combat situations they crumbled. They had mental and emotional issues. They were a liability.
To be successful at war, you have to become a warrior mentally, physically, and emotionally. You can't fake it and go through the motions.
In war if it comes down to kill or be killed, and you hesitate, you're dead. It's a simple as that. It's not a f*****g video game.
War is no place for people who are mentally, emotionally, or physically confused or in turmoil. You have your s#!t together, or you don't. And if you don't, you'll just get people needlessly killed. Political correctness has absolutely no place in the military.
Enough for now. This one armed veteran has a business to run. Unlike Iran, the country that took my arm, Obama didn't pay me millions.
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@Sanguine
Yep, that guy! Uh...
I'm sure he's not the least bit happy about today's decision.
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What does it mean?
It means that men and women cannot use each others bathrooms and showers and sleeping facilities just because they are pretending to be a different sex now.
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Saw these tweets and thought they should be shared (edited to make more readable and less profane):
Sounds like he was in Anbar Province.
And those tweets are spot on!
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You mean like Bradley/Chelsea Manning?
No way. Two fine upstanding young mental retards.
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@bolobaby, I think it's very important. Dana Loesch just did a great monologue on the dangers of mentally unstable people in the military, and she's right.
I'm all for it. But if I were to put in on a list of priorities, it might fall to somewhere below 10, with things like REPEALING Obamacare and tax reform being at the top.
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But if I were to put in on a list of priorities, it might fall to somewhere below 10, with things like REPEALING Obamacare and tax reform being at the top.
Well repealing ObamaCare is dead and done. ObamaCare is here to stay until Single Payer arrives and it is now a permanent Wearable of the Republican Party.
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Well repealing ObamaCare is dead and done. ObamaCare is here to stay until Single Payer arrives and it is now a permanent Wearable of the Republican Party.
Yep. We can thank Team Trump for that debacle.
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Well repealing ObamaCare is dead and done. ObamaCare is here to stay until Single Payer arrives and it is now a permanent Wearable of the Republican Party.
Stay on topic you bleeping asshat. This is not about obama care.
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Stay on topic you bleeping asshat. This is not about obama care.
I was replying to a direct comment that mentioned it as a priority. Might want to read a bit before tossing out the bleeps.
Yep. We can thank Team Trump for that debacle.
Actually no, we can thank Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Susan Collins and the rest of the oligarchy in the GOP for that debacle.
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I am really happy with this decision.
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I am really happy with this decision.
Me too, Fred. Good call.
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Yep. We can thank Team Trump for that debacle.
Wrong you can thank the GOPe in the Senate for that. Trump did every thing he could to get OCare repealed.
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I'm all for it. But if I were to put in on a list of priorities, it might fall to somewhere below 10, with things like REPEALING Obamacare and tax reform being at the top.
Just because it's not high on your 'list' does not mean it's not important or meaningful.
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Stay on topic you bleeping asshat. This is not about obama care.
This thread, about something Trump did that we all agree was a good thing, did not stand a chance before the Buts arrived.
Or should I spell that with two 'T's' There are people here who are physically and emotionally incapable of praising Trump for anything without a 'But'.
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I was replying to a direct comment that mentioned it as a priority. Might want to read a bit before tossing out the bleeps.
You are so good at tossing yourself. I figure you don't need my help.
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You are so good at tossing yourself. I figure you don't need my help.
Is there a hand lotion concession to get in on? I'm all for profit, Wings.
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This thread, about something Trump did that we all agree was a good thing, did not stand a chance before the Buts arrived.
Or should I spell that with two 'T's' There are people here who are physically and emotionally incapable of praising Trump for anything without a 'But'.
It was not the NT'ers that derailed the Thread, on multiple occasions, @Emjay, ironically enough, this time it was the ET'ers, IMHO
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Is there a hand lotion concession to get in on? I'm all for profit, Wings.
I have an IPO for INVAR reach arounds in the works... want in? :)
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Just another reason we need to impeach Trump. This has to be unconstitutional in some way. Poor crossdressers.
This fully restores my faith that President Trump is blessed in grace and wisdom. This more than makes up for failing his campaign promises to repeal Obamacare, lock up Hitlery, build the wall, and drain the swamp.
I don’t care if @realDonaldTrump wants to perform abortions in White House after this military policy tweet.
God Bless the President of the United States. :patriot:
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It was not the NT'ers that derailed the Thread, on multiple occasions, @Emjay, ironically enough, this time it was the ET'ers, IMHO
Excuse me, corbe. But Seeing as how the assole is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause of the leaks to the TBR he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P
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Next week I'll run out of these, again, a week early, and you Trumpers better look out, before I get Timed Out.
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It was a tremendous harrumph.
The bigliest!
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That's a good point. Why don't we have a "You are the woman" emoticon?
:silly:
It could be made with 70% of the resources.
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NO one here voted for Hillary....people used their constitutional right to vote for another candidate on their ballot.
I don't know why you and others dwell on who people voted for..Trump won and that's all that should matter to you.
I reluctantly voted for Trump...I am more of a conservative than he will ever be.
I did not vote. At that time I could never vote for a rat. I hated rats for 25 years for their push of socialism, but when I recognized my party stood for nothing except a placeholder for when rats regained power...
then I understood.
I was a voice of a Hegelian dialectic that has doomed my children to a morally bankrupt and insane pre-tyrant. I, of course, mean that in the nicest and respectful way possible.
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Excuse me, corbe. But Seeing as how the assole is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause of the leaks to the TBR he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P
In the dictionary under "A-hole" it says "See him."
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This fully restores my faith that President Trump is blessed in grace and wisdom. This more than makes up for failing his campaign promises to repeal Obamacare, lock up Hitlery, build the wall, and drain the swamp.
I don’t care if @realDonaldTrump wants to perform abortions in White House after this military policy tweet.
God Bless the President of the United States. :patriot:
I'm detecting a tiny bit of cynicism.
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You are so good at tossing yourself. I figure you don't need my help.
Just get me a naked photo of Walter Brennen and I'm good all by myself.
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In the dictionary under "A-hole" it says "See him."
INVAR is like a sore pecker, you just can't beat him.
You win.
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Who among us has not longed to have an affair with Walter Brennan?
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Just get me a naked photo of Walter Brennen and I'm good all by myself.
000hehehehe
I have seen you accused of having no sense of humor before @INVAR .
That cracked me up
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Who among us has not longed to have an affair with Walter Brennan?
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No woman can resist a nice pair of bibs!
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000hehehehe
I have seen you accused of having no sense of humor before @INVAR .
That cracked me up
Wingy had to go start it by channeling Robin Williams channeling Adrian Cronauer, so I had to follow his lead.
Especially after the reach around.
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Wingy had to go start it by channeling Robin Williams channeling Adrian Cronauer, so I had to follow his lead.
Especially after the reach around.
I have always been a bad influence on people. :beer:
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Who among us has not longed to have an affair with Walter Brennan?
Guess he was in to that "alternative" lifestyle.
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:2popcorn:
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Next week I'll run out of these, again, a week early, and you Trumpers better look out, before I get Timed Out.
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Vicodin? If so, I can't handle it anymore, side effects worse than benefits.
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This breaks my heart! I think I might cry. How am I going to break this to my husband?
It is going to break his heart too...
Fight for Chelsea Manning! LOL
So, I guess my plan to claim I'm a girl so I can shower with the women is off the table now?
He didn't mention trans-species. Maybe I can still claim that I am really a kitten trapped in a man's body? The women would love to have a little kitten to take care of wouldn't they. But, what if I'm a boy kitten who thinks he's a girl kitten. I wonder if that would disqualify me? Meow, meow, ...
I'm glad soldiers will not be forced to deal with other people's insanity with so many other issues and pressures they have to deal with every day.
Please think of the catgirls!
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Vicodin? If so, I can't handle it anymore, side effects worse than benefits.
Xanax bars, don't leave home without them.
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No, my secretary would have provided the information without having to be asked.
@Sanguine is your secretary hot? I love hot secretaries.
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I was replying to a direct comment that mentioned it as a priority. Might want to read a bit before tossing out the bleeps.
Actually no, we can thank Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Susan Collins and the rest of the oligarchy in the GOP for that debacle.
Wrong you can thank the GOPe in the Senate for that. Trump did every thing he could to get OCare repealed.
Bwhahahahahaha.
Give me ONE example of Trump *actually* taking the lead on this matter. You can't. Whereas I can show you pictures of Obama running health care panels, meetings, discussions, et al, the ONLY thing Trump has done is tweet occasionally.
Trump did NOTHING on this front. He did not propose legislation. He did not use the bully pulpit effectively. He did NOTHING, leaving Congress to step in it MAJORLY.
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Xanax bars, don't leave home without them.
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Ah, yes should have known from the wife.
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Xanax bars, don't leave home without them.
Xanax bars? Do you use them as suppositories?
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Xanax bars? Do you use them as suppositories?
NO, but I have been known to snort them when people like you come around.
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NO, but I have been known to snort them when people like you come around.
Snort Xanax bars? I guess you have a big clown nose to get those bars up there.
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Snort Xanax bars? I guess you have a big clown nose to get those bars up there.
Dude, you crush them into a paste with Vodka, Tito's preferred, and lather up. Particularly healthy in Public, no one messes with someone who eats their boogers, ask Sen. Cruz. Besides I thought you were a Pimp, you should know this shit.
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Besides I thought you were a Pimp, you should know this shit.
We pimps go with the suppository route.
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@corbet Pip'n aint easy. You should know this,
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This thread, about something Trump did that we all agree was a good thing, did not stand a chance before the Buts arrived.
Or should I spell that with two 'T's' There are people here who are physically and emotionally incapable of praising Trump for anything without a 'But'.
Talking about me again.
"But"
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trumps-transgender-troops-blunder/
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Talking about me again.
"But"
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trumps-transgender-troops-blunder/
Not at all. It was just a general comment about the trend of the thread.
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Talking about me again.
"But"
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trumps-transgender-troops-blunder/
Good Article @Chosen Daughter Thanks for sharing
Such a great policy announcement/initiative, wasted on such bone-headed presentation, makes me question the sincerity of it all.
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Not at all. It was just a general comment about the trend of the thread.
If we can ever get you to be honest........ I didn't think I was the only "but", but I know what your talking about. All of us that can't blindly fall at the feet of the resident tweeter. There's a song that comes to mind "Its my party"
Cry if you want to but we are free to step out on Trump when things don't add up. Not sure it ads up so I will stay firmly in the "but" section until it is clear that real policy is being made rather than random tweeting.
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Good Article @Chosen Daughter Thanks for sharing
Such a great policy announcement/initiative, wasted on such bone-headed presentation, makes me question the sincerity of it all.
Exactly, and you are welcome.
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Dude, you crush them into a paste with Vodka, Tito's preferred, and lather up. Particularly healthy in Public, no one messes with someone who eats their boogers, ask Sen. Cruz. Besides I thought you were a Pimp, you should know this shit.
We pimps go with the suppository route.
Wow. Professionals.
I stand in awe and pee me kilt from laughing.
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@corbet Pip'n aint easy. You should know this,
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I knew it was you cause it was a GM and their wasn't no Rust spots, @Frank Cannon
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I knew it was you cause it was a GM and their wasn't no Rust spots, @Frank Cannon
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Mines not painted. I had it wrapped in crushed velour.
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Mines not painted. I had it wrapped in crushed velour.
Classy
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If we can ever get you to be honest........ I didn't think I was the only "but", but I know what your talking about. All of us that can't blindly fall at the feet of the resident tweeter. There's a song that comes to mind "Its my party"
Cry if you want to but we are free to step out on Trump when things don't add up. Not sure it ads up so I will stay firmly in the "but" section until it is clear that real policy is being made rather than random tweeting.
You are flattering yourself. I didn't even notice any of your posts on this thread. I only noticed quite a few people who liked the action but had to go the 'but' route.
I am always honest. And I'm not a blind supporter of Trump at all. I was just surprised that so few people could bring themselves to applaud this action without recounting all the stuff he hadn't done yet.
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@Sanguine is your secretary hot? I love hot secretaries.
@Frank Cannon, he's ok, but nothing to write home about.
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Glad to hear it if true..but he could tweet something tomorrow that is exactly the opposite position.... :whistle:
Seems he forgot to tell the Generals he quoted of the policy change....I'm impressed the IIC found a new way to contradict himself....
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http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trumps-transgender-troops-blunder/
For those who didn't read it, here's a short excerpt:
. . . The real problem here is that Trump made this radical decision without apparently consulting anybody, or giving them a heads-up. The Pentagon didn’t know this was coming. Nor did the Senate Armed Services Committee. Defense Secretary Mattis knew something like this was a possibility, but was out of town on vacation, and knew nothing o the timing. It was out of the blue.
Politico’s reporting (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/trump-transgender-military-ban-behind-the-scenes-240990) suggests it might have been a knee-jerk move by Trump to get social conservatives off his back about Jeff Sessions. . . .
But, really, everyone should read it. There's a lot of good stuff in it.
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Here is my take.
The CINC gave an order.
JUMP to it.
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Here is my take.
The CINC gave an order.
JUMP to it.
And ask How High.
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Here is my take.
The CINC gave an order.
JUMP to it.
I like it! I like it just like I like the Obamacare.com roll-out and announcing troop withdraws. Good job again Mr. President!
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You are flattering yourself. I didn't even notice any of your posts on this thread. I only noticed quite a few people who liked the action but had to go the 'but' route.
I am always honest. And I'm not a blind supporter of Trump at all. I was just surprised that so few people could bring themselves to applaud this action without recounting all the stuff he hadn't done yet.
I would easily applaud this if he hadn't used his twitter to make a major announcement. It appears it was one of his twitter tirades that nobody knew about until he let loose those little fingers. I am in a waiting pattern to see what happens.