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Title: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 04:09:09 pm
Update below in red

Friday morning, Wikileaks released twenty thousand secret DNC emails for the public to view and understand the inner workings of the Democratic Party. The media has been mostly focused on the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s treatment of Bernie Sanders, another theme runs through the emails. 

One Republican candidate is mentioned far more than the rest, Donald Trump. From the earliest emails, DNC officials were writing up storylines to use in the general election, many months before Trump became even the presumptive nominee, while the race was still heated.

Over five thousand, two hundred emails reference Donald Trump, roughly ¼ of all the twenty thousand emails leaked.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/?q=trump&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0&page=105&#searchresult

The amount of articles on Trump are in no small part to how dominated the news headlines, however, what is more captivating are the strategy emails, laden with code words, but at the same time, often direct in what and who they are promoting and how to promote him.

For example, in one email, Gloria Allred suggests not going after Trump in campaign email blasts.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20666

Back in April and May, discussions about fundraising were already assuming a run against Trump and using that as a promotion long before Trump was the nominee. For example:
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/15638

Even in December, six months before Trump was nominated, Democrats were worried that Bernie Sanders was causing divisions and would harm their chances of taking on Trump in the general election. No other candidate was mentioned in this way as assumed they would be taking that candidate on that early or implied is part of their strategy.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11748

One very odd email implies they were helping Trump get revenge by running due to an insult at the 2011 White House correspondents’ dinner and they were taking advantage of his hurt feelings.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11881

They are even discussing holding some attacks until after the general election such as his insulting language to a Ms. America.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9406

And holding onto a big Trump/Manafort connection in the opposition to Ukraine.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9768


But it isn’t just about overall campaign strategy and projecting that they wanted Trump as the nominee. Many emails contain cryptic instructions on how to actually promote Trump through social media including talking points and language manipulation.

One email, for example, contains an odd list of code words taken from movie titles, each implying a certain action or activist campaign. It also, however, also discusses a social media strategy to promote Trump.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/21583

For example, this discussion on using language to promote Trump as a political outsider, independent, and authentic. It also gives instructions to respond to ‘crazy’ things as ‘just for show’
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Simas: Write your personal story (personal vs group advocacy) Physically feel rationality gone- talking points take over (family politics) Don't tell people what they need or what is important to them. Listen to community. Finding salience Trump- not political, authentic (not tps), independent (money), crazy things are for show. Character is the biggest consideration.
Another section discusses language strategy and how to describe, again many times using code words but also discussing in the open how to describe Trump.

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Closed off from news Normal person Little Morgan Dictionary game Grating Complacency Article
A. Intellect
1. pattern recognition
2. quick wit (master of sass)
3. problem solving ability
4. irritability/impatience with stupidity; dissatisfaction with mediocrity
5. grammarian (break in parallel just made you twitch a little, QEmfD)
6. all of the thoughts
7. multi-tasking prowess

B. Personality
8. limitless capacity for compassion
9. kind and considerate in the face of hostility (despite that quick wit); situational awareness
10. restraint and considered wisdom
11. urgent desire to do good; inability to accept neutrality as not bad
12. capable of true depths and heights of honesty and bullshit respectively (yes respectively)

C. Biased observations
13. so fun, it's annoying. honestly stop.
14. passed the DP standard of excellence, which is a more impressive feat than you know (I can be brutally honest about this later)
15. You are a wonderful, exceptional human being. You've heard it from me too many times, but it does not devalue the truth inherent in such praise. I never say these things lightly. You're the best.

And don't worry about losing. If it is right, it happens - the main thing is not to hurry. Nothing good gets away.

This type of instruction on how to approach promoting Trump from a language manipulation standpoint is prime for social media and as  you can see, mirrors many of the themes that one finds in his grassroots support.

This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the DNC’s use of Trump to their advantage outline in the Wikileaks document. With over 5,200 emails on this topic alone, a lot more revelations are sure to come. But from we see here, one can easily conclude that the Democrats planned for Trump to be the nominee early on, were holding most major stories on Trump until after the nomination, preventing the worst of getting out too early, and were finding ways to promote Trump on social media.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 04:11:11 pm
One thing that struck me was the reference to the hacker QEmfD which may refer to a vulgar term but also is a reference to hacker Nick Black who is famous for social media manipulation.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 04:13:51 pm
Here are the Wikileak emails sorted for just Trump (assuming no code names, just that name). What I found was just from randomly searching through the emails. 
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/?q=trump&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0&page=1&#searchresult

With as many emails as there are, this just scratches the surface but it is hard to find an email out of those five thousand (just randomly picking through) that didn't follow this pattern. The DNC wanted Trump, they promoted Trump, and they planned for Trump. He was their preferred Republican candidate.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 04:29:52 pm
Wow, this is bigger than some of the other stuff I fond. They helped promote Trump's National Enquirer hit on Cruz's father re JFK stuff.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7735
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8891
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13192
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: INVAR on July 23, 2016, 04:37:42 pm
Yes, this was suspected and known that there was coordination between the Democrats and the Trump campaign.

Trump chatted with Bill Clinton right before he announced he was running.

Open primary states had hordes of Democrats for Hillary voting for Trump.

That the Democrats WANTED Trump to be the GOP opponent to Hillary and the coordination of the media to loft him up during the primary and give him all that free air-time paid off.

Today it is self-evident that the Democrats and the GOP Establishment Oligarchy are in league with Trump and have been from the beginning.

I still contend Trump is just Hillary's Trojan Stalking Horse.

And it was executed brilliantly.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 04:40:33 pm
Yes, this was suspected and known that there was coordination between the Democrats and the Trump campaign.

Trump chatted with Bill Clinton right before he announced he was running.

Open primary states had hordes of Democrats for Hillary voting for Trump.

That the Democrats WANTED Trump to be the GOP opponent to Hillary and the coordination of the media to loft him up during the primary and give him all that free air-time paid off.

Today it is self-evident that the Democrats and the GOP Establishment Oligarchy are in league with Trump and have been from the beginning.

I still contend Trump is just Hillary's Trojan Stalking Horse.

And it was executed brilliantly.

Just so there isn't a mistake, I haven't found that direct 1 to 1 communication between the campaigns. (ie, no email from DWS to Manafort). Just the fact they desired it to be Trump and promoted him.

Open Primary is another term I think we should dig into. That may be revealing.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: sitetest on July 23, 2016, 04:49:51 pm
Wow, this is bigger than some of the other stuff I fond. They helped promote Trump's National Enquirer hit on Cruz's father re JFK stuff.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7735
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8891
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13192

 The party has nominated the spawn of satan.   With hitlery's full backing.  I wonder what the emails say about Sen. Cruz.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 05:19:06 pm
If wikileak gives you an error on any link, keep hitting refresh and it will come up. They are getting slammed.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: JustPassinThru on July 23, 2016, 05:28:39 pm
Yes, this was suspected and known that there was coordination between the Democrats and the Trump campaign.

Trump chatted with Bill Clinton right before he announced he was running.

Open primary states had hordes of Democrats for Hillary voting for Trump.

That the Democrats WANTED Trump to be the GOP opponent to Hillary and the coordination of the media to loft him up during the primary and give him all that free air-time paid off.

Today it is self-evident that the Democrats and the GOP Establishment Oligarchy are in league with Trump and have been from the beginning.

I still contend Trump is just Hillary's Trojan Stalking Horse.

And it was executed brilliantly.

The People are panicked; the People today are politically unsophisticated; most people today are deficient in critical-thinking skills.

And this misnamed Social Media is crack for the synapses.  It really does seem to rot the brain - and people and techniques that would NEVER work in a tavern or a workplace, seem to EASILY manipulate people as the Leftist agitators channel the unsophisticated into the chutes into the slaughterhouse of Leftism.

I'm saddened but not especially surprised.  Not even curious enough to follow through on the links - I've long suspected this.  To me it was apparent from the time a year ago when Trumpy hired Roger Stone and started his character assassinations.

Our efforts must now be threefold.  The Presidential Election is done for patriotic conservatives - DONE.  We need to focus, first on the Senate races; then on the House races.

Then, we need to explore other future options.  The elephant in the room - no pun - is State Secession, which I hold is THE only way to escape the dark-farce of violent tyranny that's coming.

Finally, each of us needs to have a SHTF Plan.  Because the excrement has been flung; and the fan is on HIGH.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: HoustonSam on July 23, 2016, 05:29:33 pm
Wow, this is bigger than some of the other stuff I fond. They helped promote Trump's National Enquirer hit on Cruz's father re JFK stuff.

What a pity that @Mechanicos is in the penalty box.  We desperately need insight on how this was Trump's plan all along, how this puts Cruz right where Trump wants him, and how the rest of us are throwing the election to Hillary.  I guess some of the other Trump surrogates will have to step in.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: geronl on July 23, 2016, 05:41:35 pm
Wow, this is bigger than some of the other stuff I fond. They helped promote Trump's National Enquirer hit on Cruz's father re JFK stuff.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7735
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8891
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13192

I'm not surprised at all
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: don-o on July 23, 2016, 05:53:21 pm
Great work Ab. Gonna dig into this.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: LadyLiberty on July 23, 2016, 05:59:38 pm
Trump is such an easy mark for them, he gives them so much ammo to use against him.  Like many have said, if he wanted to lose to Hillary, what would he be doing any differently?
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 23, 2016, 06:07:46 pm
Wow, this is bigger than some of the other stuff I fond. They helped promote Trump's National Enquirer hit on Cruz's father re JFK stuff.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7735
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8891
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13192

Did James Carville come out a year ago and say he feared Cruz the most?
He called him "the most talented and fearless Republican".

Hmmmmm......
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 06:10:53 pm
What a pity that @Mechanicos is in the penalty box.  We desperately need insight on how this was Trump's plan all along, how this puts Cruz right where Trump wants him, and how the rest of us are throwing the election to Hillary.  I guess some of the other Trump surrogates will have to step in.

I predict it will be any combination of the following.

You lie- hoping no one reads the links or digs through the rest of the five thousand emails.
Just normal campaign rhetoric.
Cruzers are desperate.
It shows how much Hillary fears trump.
You must support Hillary to go after trump.
No response and hope it is buried.
Change the subject and start fights to get it off topic.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: don-o on July 23, 2016, 06:44:32 pm
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Family's role in your campaign. Role in your administration? - Probably not - A little thing called nepotism that is not very good - They will be running the business

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4857

Guess he flipflopped on that.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: skeeter on July 23, 2016, 06:55:59 pm
Wow, this is bigger than some of the other stuff I fond. They helped promote Trump's National Enquirer hit on Cruz's father re JFK stuff.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7735
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8891
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13192

More proof that Trump, his new friends in the GOPe and the democrats are in this together to defeat the most prominent constitutional conservative currently on the political stage.

Doesn't that make Trump supporters claiming to be conservative unwitting tools?
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 07:10:51 pm
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4857

Guess he flipflopped on that.

Some of the many attack lines they are holding back until trump was the nominee. As warned, this is going to get ugly.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: geronl on July 23, 2016, 07:44:31 pm
I wonder if any of the unreleased or deleted emails were exchanged with Trump or Trump, Jr coordinating their take-over of the GOP.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 23, 2016, 07:45:54 pm
Well this looks like it could get filthy.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 23, 2016, 07:48:29 pm
More proof that Trump, his new friends in the GOPe and the democrats are in this together to defeat the most prominent constitutional conservative currently on the political stage.

Doesn't that make Trump supporters claiming to be conservative unwitting tools?

I think a fair number of them are entirely witting democrat tools.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Rivergirl on July 23, 2016, 07:49:12 pm
This scuttlebutt was out there right from the start   The dems wanted the trumpanzee and the msm obliged.  Little did they know the fauxers would join them in their quest.
Little did the fauxers know that their dirty old man would be out on his butt.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 07:57:47 pm
Never Hillary on the Democrat side is as big or bigger than Never Trump, they just worked to suppress the news.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17905

Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 08:00:53 pm
This is the one freepers are going ga ga over. They are claiming Cruz solicited money from the DNC for his delegate fight at the convention. Here is the email.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4966

It is a generic fundraising email that we probably all got and probably went to ten million people on his distribution lists. It isn't a direct request, just a mass email.

LOL.


I saw that headline and scratched my head until I saw the email.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 23, 2016, 08:06:21 pm
This is the one freepers are going ga ga over. They are claiming Cruz solicited money from the DNC for his delegate fight at the convention. Here is the email.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4966

It is a generic fundraising email that we probably all got and probably went to ten million people on his distribution lists. It isn't a direct request, just a mass email.

LOL.



But I bet it didn't go to foreign governments.

Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 23, 2016, 08:11:49 pm
Thanks for this @AbaraXas!
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 08:16:13 pm
. ----> https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5210

Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Idiot on July 23, 2016, 08:26:29 pm
Very interesting.  Not sure what to make of it yet....but interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNuPajn_ezg
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: geronl on July 23, 2016, 08:27:57 pm
This one may be pretty damning. At face value, it looks like someone in the DNC had a sit down with Manafort to discuss the campaign and Republican's strategy. If this is true, Manafort has been giving the DNC their strategy and the Republican strategy. This may be the smoking gun of direct collusion.

Some of the statements here are well, you read them and decide.... (this is definitely not a news article re the spelling and grammar errors, reads like notes typed during an interview)

hhhmmmm
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 08:31:34 pm
Yep, Jeremy Brinster who interviewed Manafort works for the DNC.

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Jeremy-Brinster/1937508511
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 23, 2016, 08:34:51 pm
Even if there was no cooperation between the Trump camp and democrats, its still pretty clear that Trump was the gift they wanted.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 08:40:01 pm
I don't think so @AbaraXas   The email seems to be a discussion of Manafort's interview on Fox News Sunday April 14.

Thanks, rabbit trail... A lot of those in this.  That just shows manafort is stupid,  not colluding in that one. It just didnt read like a media interview.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 23, 2016, 08:40:31 pm
This one may be pretty damning. At face value, it looks like someone in the DNC had a sit down with Manafort to discuss the campaign and Republican's strategy. If this is true, Manafort has been giving the DNC their strategy and the Republican strategy. This may be the smoking gun of direct collusion.

Some of the statements here are well, you read them and decide.... (this is definitely not a news article re the spelling and grammar errors, reads like notes typed during an interview)


It looks like a transcript from a Chris Wallace interview to me.

Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 08:44:50 pm

It looks like a transcript from a Chris Wallace interview to me.

Yep I jumped too soon, not focusing on the subject, just the body.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 23, 2016, 08:48:33 pm
I'm removing that post and just leaving the link so no one goes down that hole. I need to slow down in reading too.  I think I'll go catch a movie and look again later.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Polly Ticks on July 23, 2016, 08:53:54 pm
I predict it will be any combination of the following.

You lie- hoping no one reads the links or digs through the rest of the five thousand emails.
Just normal campaign rhetoric.
Cruzers are desperate.
It shows how much Hillary fears trump.
You must support Hillary to go after trump.
No response and hope it is buried.
Change the subject and start fights to get it off topic.

You forgot "Biased source!"

Thanks for posting.  Very interesting reading.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 23, 2016, 08:59:28 pm
We need to dig through them all, but what I'm afraid has happened is the DNC recognized early on that a large majority of "Conservatives" are as stupid as they've always thought us to be and realized Trump would be nominated with some help of DNC crossovers.  I know it was a shock for myself when I realized they were correct about us all along as I had always imagined that we were much smarter than Liberals.  Combine the Trump voters with the Libs, it's disheartening to realize how large a majority of the United States is beyond hope.  At this point, I don't believe we will ever get our country back.  It will take an earth-shattering phenomenon of astronomical proportions to reset.  Think SMOD.  And Trump ain't it.

Sorry to be so depressing, but my glass has been half-full since Indiana.  :/

Have to go check on Mom.  Will continue to dig when I return, but my gut instinct is telling me it is futile.  They simply out-smarted us.

I don't remember who it was but there was a FReeper with the tagline "FReepers, not as smart as I had hoped they would be".
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: HonestJohn on July 24, 2016, 12:37:20 am
Regardless of all this, 40% of our primary base wanted Trump.  And despite him being the one Democrats want to run against, that base still wants him.

That's a problem that has to be resolved.

For as long as 40% of our primary base selects candidates that make it easy for Democrats, we will contine to lose the Presidency.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: don-o on July 24, 2016, 01:40:08 am
I don't remember who it was but there was a FReeper with the tagline "FReepers, not as smart as I had hoped they would be".

editor_surveyor

I hated that guy.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: don-o on July 24, 2016, 01:59:12 am
 
I have spent no time on this, but came across this.  Be warned; there's going to be dishonest "reporting" on this.

Example.

1) Ted Cruz asked the DNC for $ to help fund his delegate fight in Cleveland.

from  http://investmentwatchblog.com/dnc-emails-will-be-the-biggest-scandal-in-a-generation/#comments

E mail offered to support this silly claim

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9203

Has zilch to do with DNC except they were passing a Cruz fundraiser email around.
 
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 24, 2016, 02:02:10 am

I have spent no time on this, but came across this.  Be warned; there's going to be dishonest "reporting" on this.

Example.

1) Ted Cruz asked the DNC for $ to help fund his delegate fight in Cleveland.

from  http://investmentwatchblog.com/dnc-emails-will-be-the-biggest-scandal-in-a-generation/#comments

E mail offered to support this silly claim

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9203

Has zilch to do with DNC except they were passing a Cruz fundraiser email around.

Unless it was going to foreign governments, I don't care.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 24, 2016, 08:49:05 am
This is the one freepers are going ga ga over. They are claiming Cruz solicited money from the DNC for his delegate fight at the convention. Here is the email.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4966

It is a generic fundraising email that we probably all got and probably went to ten million people on his distribution lists. It isn't a direct request, just a mass email.

LOL.


I saw that headline and scratched my head until I saw the email.
I got similar e-mails soliciting funds from Bernie and Hillary, and have never voted Democrat. They buy mailing lists and shotgun it out there. It doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: EC on July 24, 2016, 08:52:45 am
Plus, if people at the DNC (OR RNC, for that matter) aren't on the opposition mailing lists, they aren't doing their jobs right.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 24, 2016, 08:59:56 am
Regardless of all this, 40% of our primary base wanted Trump.  And despite him being the one Democrats want to run against, that base still wants him.

That's a problem that has to be resolved.

For as long as 40% of our primary base selects candidates that make it easy for Democrats, we will contine to lose the Presidency.
Unless and until people unite around some opposition--which is what the RNC fears with Cruz, and Trump fears that, too or he wouldn't be still trashing Cruz. 2020 might present a picture of an incumbent with a primary challenge otherwise, especially if voters get a look at 4 years of the DT Administration.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 24, 2016, 09:01:51 am
Plus, if people at the DNC (OR RNC, for that matter) aren't on the opposition mailing lists, they aren't doing their jobs right.
True, that. What better way to know what the opposition is saying than have them send it to you?
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: txradioguy on July 24, 2016, 01:02:30 pm
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For example, this discussion on using language to promote Trump as a political outsider, independent, and authentic. It also gives instructions to respond to ‘crazy’ things as ‘just for show’

How many times a day do we see this same kind of language used here by the Trumpkins to describe Donny?
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: txradioguy on July 24, 2016, 01:05:45 pm
Regardless of all this, 40% of our primary base wanted Trump.  And despite him being the one Democrats want to run against, that base still wants him.

That's a problem that has to be resolved.

For as long as 40% of our primary base selects candidates that make it easy for Democrats, we will contine to lose the Presidency.

The people that wanted Trump aren't the Conservative base of the party. There's no way you can ever convince me of that.

But just for conversation...suppose it is 40%...that's means there's 60% of the base...a clear majority that rejected him and what he stands for.

Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: HoustonSam on July 24, 2016, 01:25:14 pm

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For example, this discussion on using language to promote Trump as a political outsider, independent, and authentic. It also gives instructions to respond to ‘crazy’ things as ‘just for show’

How many times a day do we see this same kind of language used here by the Trumpkins to describe Donny?

Right here it is, 100% airtight logical proof that Mechanicos is a shill of the Democrat National Committee.  His arguments are taken directly from their playbook.  I wonder how much he's been getting paid?
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Mom MD on July 24, 2016, 01:29:53 pm
The people that wanted Trump aren't the Conservative base of the party. There's no way you can ever convince me of that.

But just for conversation...suppose it is 40%...that's means there's 60% of the base...a clear majority that rejected him and what he stands for.


The problem is open primaries. We allow democrats to select our candidates for us, then are shocked when that doesn't work out so well.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 24, 2016, 02:20:19 pm
Regardless of all this, 40% of our primary base wanted Trump.  And despite him being the one Democrats want to run against, that base still wants him.

That's a problem that has to be resolved.

For as long as 40% of our primary base selects candidates that make it easy for Democrats, we will contine to lose the Presidency.

Let's put your 40% in perspective (heck, it is 45%, but we aren't even counting the estimated 12 million Democrat crossover votes). How does that low of a primary victory compare to general election results.

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Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: don-o on July 24, 2016, 04:42:40 pm
Byron York: DNC debated banning Bernie delegate for 'throwing shade' on Wasserman Schultz

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2597505?platform=hootsuite

High-ranking Democratic National Committee staff debated whether to bar a Bernie Sanders supporter from attending a fundraiser because she had written tweets "throwing shade" on party chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Tennessee activist Amanda Kruel had sent "multiple tweets throwing shade on DWS," Alan Reed, compliance director for the DNC, noted in a May 19, 2016 email released through the massive WikiLeaks disclosure. Reed added that Kruel was a "staunch Bernie supporter and campaign staffer" who had been elected a delegate in Tennessee's party meetings.

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Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 24, 2016, 04:46:16 pm
No Republican has won the Presidency with less than 60% of the Primary votes.
My initial reply would have been "Well, he is no Republican, so maybe he has a chance."

But the GOPe have embraced him, given him the key to the executive washroom and taught him the secret handshake. By definition, that makes him a "Republican".
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 24, 2016, 04:49:04 pm
My initial reply would have been "Well, he is no Republican, so maybe he has a chance."

But the GOPe have embraced him, given him the key to the executive washroom and taught him the secret handshake. By definition, that makes him a "Republican".

The worst part is that the GOP has to know he's not going to win. :shrug:
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 24, 2016, 05:04:32 pm
The worst part is that the GOP has to know he's not going to win. :shrug:
I think the worst part is that enough have sold out so badly they don't care.
They are only interested in saving their phony baloney jobs.
Once again, reality mocks fiction...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm1Jyusyoqk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm1Jyusyoqk)
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: LMAO on July 25, 2016, 05:37:37 am
This puts to bed the myth that the worse has already been thrown at Trump and there's nothing left. I've heard it at FR, here, and even Limbaugh and Hannity have stated Trump has already been fully vetted.

The DNC will probably run the worst regarding Trump in the fall when more people traditionally pay more attention to the election. It's a good strategy on the part of the DNC. They have accepted the fact that Hillary is seen as untrustworthy and dishonest and represents everything people hate about Washington, DC. She cannot sell herself as a change agent. So the tactic will be to use all of Trump's own words against him thereby portraying him as unfit for office. It appears that Trump is obliging them in that regard.

I haven't bought the theory that he's in this to help Hillary win, though
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 25, 2016, 02:38:38 pm
I went through some of the e-mails on wikileaks last night.
It is obvious that they were prepared to hit both Trump and Cruz when the time was right.
They looked at the JFK thing as a gift, and encouraged that the narrative keeps getting put out there.
It has, by the evidence of this weekend.
We just have to be smart enough not to play along so readily.
Unfortunately, Trump lacks that discipline (thus far).
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 25, 2016, 04:42:09 pm


I haven't bought the theory that he's in this to help Hillary win, though
I haven't completely, except for his vicious and personal, well timed serial attacks on Cruz, who is the candidate I think the Dems were as scared of as the GOPe. If any one of the candidates would be most likely to upset the DC apple cart, Cruz was it.
I think Donny's bit in all this was to defame Cruz and take him out of the race. I do not think it was to become the nominee, all bluster aside. There appears to be no long game plan, no war chest, nothing in place for after the primary fight, and Trump is still fighting it instead of launching the campaign against Clinton the day after getting the nomination.
I think that another candidate (maybe Jebbie, but someone other than Cruz) was supposed to get the nomination, which would have suited the GOPe and the DNC just fine. Cruz had proven that he would stand up for principle and the others were all considered more malleable.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Hoodat on July 26, 2016, 07:23:47 am
Doesn't that make Trump supporters claiming to be conservative unwitting tools?

No, they knew full well what they were doing.  They chose to lie to themselves and kept reinforcing that lie by lying to us.  When asked for facts to back up their support for a Conservative, they failed to produce time and time again.  Yet they continued to embrace the lie while lashing out at those of us who could see the truth.

While our side remained focused on overturning the corruption and lawlessness that had taken over our nation by putting Conservatives in control of the White House and Congress, we were being stabbed in the back from within by those who had no desire to overturn that corrupt system but instead wanted to utilize it to turn the tables against those abusing it now.

From the beginning, Trump supporters have never been for making America great again.  They have only been in it for payback.  And they covered it up with lie upon lie upon lie to promote the biggest pathological liar of all.

So what do we get?  Another eight years of lawlessness.  Another eight years of government invading every aspect of our lives.  Another eight years of government knowing best.  Another eight years of currency devaluation, higher taxes, insurance mandates, and a runaway judiciary imposing it's dictatorial will upon us, the Constitution be damned.

And this will happen no matter who wins in November.

I already know what Democrats are all about.  I expect them to support fascism, communism, or whatever other form of socialism you want to deviate to.  But I never expected those claiming to be conservatives all these years to suddenly sell us out and stab us in the back.

Every damn one of you Trump supporters can go straight to hell for what you have done to Conservatives.  I am sick of your lies.  Win or lose, we are stuck with Priebus, thanks to Trump delegates backing him on the rules committee.  And we are stuck knowing that our Republican brothers hate us so much that they would stick us with a corrupt dishonest big-government liberal for the next four years.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: DB on July 26, 2016, 08:03:17 am
Every damn one of you Trump supporters can go straight to hell for what you have done to Conservatives.  I am sick of your lies.  Win or lose, we are stuck with Priebus, thanks to Trump delegates backing him on the rules committee.  And we are stuck knowing that our Republican brothers hate us so much that they would stick us with a corrupt dishonest big-government liberal for the next four years.

That pretty much sums it up. I'll add that with Hillary on the other side following the Obama years it was a shoe in for a conservative Republican candidate. An opportunity that our party pissed away with consequences that will last our life times.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 26, 2016, 04:48:29 pm
No, they knew full well what they were doing.  They chose to lie to themselves and kept reinforcing that lie by lying to us.  When asked for facts to back up their support for a Conservative, they failed to produce time and time again.  Yet they continued to embrace the lie while lashing out at those of us who could see the truth.

While our side remained focused on overturning the corruption and lawlessness that had taken over our nation by putting Conservatives in control of the White House and Congress, we were being stabbed in the back from within by those who had no desire to overturn that corrupt system but instead wanted to utilize it to turn the tables against those abusing it now.

From the beginning, Trump supporters have never been for making America great again.  They have only been in it for payback.  And they covered it up with lie upon lie upon lie to promote the biggest pathological liar of all.

So what do we get?  Another eight years of lawlessness.  Another eight years of government invading every aspect of our lives.  Another eight years of government knowing best.  Another eight years of currency devaluation, higher taxes, insurance mandates, and a runaway judiciary imposing it's dictatorial will upon us, the Constitution be damned.

And this will happen no matter who wins in November.

I already know what Democrats are all about.  I expect them to support fascism, communism, or whatever other form of socialism you want to deviate to.  But I never expected those claiming to be conservatives all these years to suddenly sell us out and stab us in the back.

Every damn one of you Trump supporters can go straight to hell for what you have done to Conservatives.  I am sick of your lies.  Win or lose, we are stuck with Priebus, thanks to Trump delegates backing him on the rules committee.  And we are stuck knowing that our Republican brothers hate us so much that they would stick us with a corrupt dishonest big-government liberal for the next four years.
Excellent analysis, but it is time to quit eating the dung they serve up and empower another party. We are going to get no relief from the Democrat Party, and the Republican Party since Reagan has just been a constant consolidation of power for fun and profit, ti the detriment of the Republic and Conservatives who have backed it.  The only way we will have a political voice is to find a party we can back and build it. Make the GOP GO the way of the Whigs. It won't happen overnight, but could be done in 20 years.
I'd recommend the Constitution Party, but look over the platform and tell me what you think.
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 26, 2016, 04:54:56 pm


No, they knew full well what they were doing.  They chose to lie to themselves and kept reinforcing that lie by lying to us.  When asked for facts to back up their support for a Conservative, they failed to produce time and time again.  Yet they continued to embrace the lie while lashing out at those of us who could see the truth.

While our side remained focused on overturning the corruption and lawlessness that had taken over our nation by putting Conservatives in control of the White House and Congress, we were being stabbed in the back from within by those who had no desire to overturn that corrupt system but instead wanted to utilize it to turn the tables against those abusing it now.

From the beginning, Trump supporters have never been for making America great again.  They have only been in it for payback.  And they covered it up with lie upon lie upon lie to promote the biggest pathological liar of all.

So what do we get?  Another eight years of lawlessness.  Another eight years of government invading every aspect of our lives.  Another eight years of government knowing best.  Another eight years of currency devaluation, higher taxes, insurance mandates, and a runaway judiciary imposing it's dictatorial will upon us, the Constitution be damned.

And this will happen no matter who wins in November.

I already know what Democrats are all about.  I expect them to support fascism, communism, or whatever other form of socialism you want to deviate to.  But I never expected those claiming to be conservatives all these years to suddenly sell us out and stab us in the back.

Every damn one of you Trump supporters can go straight to hell for what you have done to Conservatives.  I am sick of your lies.  Win or lose, we are stuck with Priebus, thanks to Trump delegates backing him on the rules committee.  And we are stuck knowing that our Republican brothers hate us so much that they would stick us with a corrupt dishonest big-government liberal for the next four years.

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Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: INVAR on July 26, 2016, 05:49:17 pm
No, they knew full well what they were doing.  They chose to lie to themselves and kept reinforcing that lie by lying to us.  When asked for facts to back up their support for a Conservative, they failed to produce time and time again.  Yet they continued to embrace the lie while lashing out at those of us who could see the truth.

While our side remained focused on overturning the corruption and lawlessness that had taken over our nation by putting Conservatives in control of the White House and Congress, we were being stabbed in the back from within by those who had no desire to overturn that corrupt system but instead wanted to utilize it to turn the tables against those abusing it now.

From the beginning, Trump supporters have never been for making America great again.  They have only been in it for payback.  And they covered it up with lie upon lie upon lie to promote the biggest pathological liar of all.

So what do we get?  Another eight years of lawlessness.  Another eight years of government invading every aspect of our lives.  Another eight years of government knowing best.  Another eight years of currency devaluation, higher taxes, insurance mandates, and a runaway judiciary imposing it's dictatorial will upon us, the Constitution be damned.

And this will happen no matter who wins in November.

I already know what Democrats are all about.  I expect them to support fascism, communism, or whatever other form of socialism you want to deviate to.  But I never expected those claiming to be conservatives all these years to suddenly sell us out and stab us in the back.

Every damn one of you Trump supporters can go straight to hell for what you have done to Conservatives.  I am sick of your lies.  Win or lose, we are stuck with Priebus, thanks to Trump delegates backing him on the rules committee.  And we are stuck knowing that our Republican brothers hate us so much that they would stick us with a corrupt dishonest big-government liberal for the next four years.

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/c26b20d3523d58572c00a59fabfc6650/tumblr_mtzmeqC16Z1qcga5ro1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: txradioguy on July 27, 2016, 08:06:46 am
No, they knew full well what they were doing.  They chose to lie to themselves and kept reinforcing that lie by lying to us.  When asked for facts to back up their support for a Conservative, they failed to produce time and time again.  Yet they continued to embrace the lie while lashing out at those of us who could see the truth.

While our side remained focused on overturning the corruption and lawlessness that had taken over our nation by putting Conservatives in control of the White House and Congress, we were being stabbed in the back from within by those who had no desire to overturn that corrupt system but instead wanted to utilize it to turn the tables against those abusing it now.

From the beginning, Trump supporters have never been for making America great again.  They have only been in it for payback.  And they covered it up with lie upon lie upon lie to promote the biggest pathological liar of all.

So what do we get?  Another eight years of lawlessness.  Another eight years of government invading every aspect of our lives.  Another eight years of government knowing best.  Another eight years of currency devaluation, higher taxes, insurance mandates, and a runaway judiciary imposing it's dictatorial will upon us, the Constitution be damned.

And this will happen no matter who wins in November.

I already know what Democrats are all about.  I expect them to support fascism, communism, or whatever other form of socialism you want to deviate to.  But I never expected those claiming to be conservatives all these years to suddenly sell us out and stab us in the back.

Every damn one of you Trump supporters can go straight to hell for what you have done to Conservatives.  I am sick of your lies.  Win or lose, we are stuck with Priebus, thanks to Trump delegates backing him on the rules committee.  And we are stuck knowing that our Republican brothers hate us so much that they would stick us with a corrupt dishonest big-government liberal for the next four years.

 :amen: :amen: :amen:
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on July 27, 2016, 02:43:08 pm
I heard on the radio on the way to work this morning that here is a new document dump from Wikileaks.  It includes all major democrat donors and their SS numbers.  WOW..............

It isn't on Wikileaks yet.
https://wikileaks.org/
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: ABX on October 09, 2016, 04:43:51 pm
Bump for relevance
Title: Re: GOPBR Exclusive- DNC Wikileaks Show Strong Desire to Run Against Trump
Post by: Idiot on October 10, 2016, 02:20:55 am
Regardless of all this, 40% of our primary base wanted Trump.  And despite him being the one Democrats want to run against, that base still wants him.

That's a problem that has to be resolved.

For as long as 40% of our primary base selects candidates that make it easy for Democrats, we will contine to lose the Presidency.

Who is this "we" you speak of?   :smokin: