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Title: 'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary Chair
Post by: mystery-ak on July 21, 2019, 06:47:53 pm
'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary Chair says


By Kate Sullivan, CNN

Updated 2:24 PM ET, Sun July 21, 2019

Washington (CNN)House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler on Sunday said Robert Mueller's report presents "very substantial evidence" that President Donald Trump is "guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors" -- an impeachable offense.

"We have to ... let Mueller present those facts to the American people, and then see where we go from there, because the administration must be held accountable," Nadler, whose committee would lead impeachment proceedings, said on "Fox News Sunday."

Mueller, the former special counsel for the Department of Justice and former director of the FBI, will testify before Congress on July 24 after House Democrats issued a subpoena for his appearance. Earlier this year, Mueller concluded a nearly two-year-long investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

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Title: Re: 'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary C
Post by: Bill Cipher on July 21, 2019, 07:50:33 pm
No, it doesn’t.  It presents weak evidence that might justify a jury finding him guilty of obstruction, i emphasize might, and that is about it.

Besides which, as we know from Clinton, minor obstructive acts, like perjury, are not a sound basis for impeachment, standing alone.   
Title: Re: 'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary C
Post by: libertybele on July 21, 2019, 08:19:14 pm
Quote from: Bill Cipher on July 21, 2019, 07:50:33 pm
No, it doesn’t.  It presents weak evidence that might justify a jury finding him guilty of obstruction, i emphasize might, and that is about it.

Besides which, as we know from Clinton, minor obstructive acts, like perjury, are not a sound basis for impeachment, standing alone.

The Clintons are untouchable; I don't think Trump is that insulated.  IF the DEMS find anything that even resembles an impeachable offense, they will vote to impeach him.  I still question the supposed safety net of the Senate.
Title: Re: 'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary C
Post by: Sanguine on July 21, 2019, 09:25:56 pm
Quote from: Bill Cipher on July 21, 2019, 07:50:33 pm
No, it doesn’t.  It presents weak evidence that might justify a jury finding him guilty of obstruction, i emphasize might, and that is about it.

Besides which, as we know from Clinton, minor obstructive acts, like perjury, are not a sound basis for impeachment, standing alone.

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Title: Re: 'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary C
Post by: Bill Cipher on July 21, 2019, 10:55:29 pm
Quote from: libertybele on July 21, 2019, 08:19:14 pm
The Clintons are untouchable; I don't think Trump is that insulated.  IF the DEMS find anything that even resembles an impeachable offense, they will vote to impeach him.  I still question the supposed safety net of the Senate.

Bill Clinton wasn’t untouchable when he was impeached.  He just wasn’t convicted, mainly because what he did wasn’t worthy of the clause “high crimes and misdemeanors.”
Title: Re: 'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary C
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 21, 2019, 11:13:37 pm
Quote from: Bill Cipher on July 21, 2019, 10:55:29 pm
Bill Clinton wasn’t untouchable when he was impeached.  He just wasn’t convicted, mainly because what he did wasn’t worthy of the clause “high crimes and misdemeanors.”
He's not untouchable now...except for the fact that nobody wants to touch him.

https://qz.com/1182889/bill-clintons-declining-legacy-monica-lewinsky-impeachment-metoo-and-trump/

But lately, Clinton’s scent seems to be turning fetid. For the first time since he left office in 2001, more Americans view Clinton unfavorably than do favorably. After peaking at 69% in 2013, Clinton’s favorability rating has slumped to 45%. This trend is unusual among retired presidents. Most can count on nostalgia to sanctify even the most benighted tenure; even the once heinously unpopular George W. Bush enjoyed favorability ratings of 59% as of late 2016.

Of course that's not due to impeachment but rather the "me too" movement, still it's nice to see the guy who needed everyone to like him get his reward for being a sexual predator.
Title: Re: 'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary C
Post by: Fishrrman on July 21, 2019, 11:14:52 pm
Consider the source of this "article"...
Title: Re: 'Very substantial evidence' Trump is 'guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors,' House Judiciary C
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 22, 2019, 01:02:08 am
Quote from: Fishrrman on July 21, 2019, 11:14:52 pm
Consider the source of this "article"...
So Nadler didn't say it? *****rollingeyes*****