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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: rangerrebew on July 20, 2019, 01:03:01 pm
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Pelosi And Ocasio-Cortez To Meet Over Who CONTROLS The House
Pelosi has become a total JOKE…
Looks like Speaker of the the House Nancy Pelosi and Representative Ocasio-Cortez will be meeting next week to discuss control of the House of Representatives and the Democrat coalition.
President Trump has done an excellent job of making “the squad†the face of House Democrats so we look forward to seeing how Pelosi handles this.
https://preservefreedom.org/pelosi-and-ocasio-cortez-to-meet-over-who-controls-the-house/
Here’s more via Reuters:
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Pelosi has gotten too senile and too alcoholic to hold on much longer. 999beer
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Pelosi has gotten too senile and too alcoholic to hold on much longer. 999beer
@rangerrebew
I agree. The Young Turks (muslim Turks,of course) will soon control the Dim Party.
Which is NOT good news because any current Dim that is even semi-sane will then register as a Republican,and vote for any left-wing fool running with a R behind his name.
Or am I the only one that remembers the stunning takeover of Congress by the Republicans under the leadership of Newt,and how within 4 years enough Dims had left the Dim Party and registered as Republicans because that was the ONLY way they could get elected,and eventually enough of them infiltrated the Republican ranks to get Newt kicked out of office and insure a RINO take over?
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AOC is a unmittigated 100% joke, with an IQ of a rock. Her credential are limited to being a bar wench, slinging drinks at her local dive.
Thanks to Trump and now Pelosi, this stupid bitch is being given legitimacy and standing in the media, and on the political stage.
IF everyone would have ignored her in the first place, we wouldn't be dealing with this idiot.
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The Dems uncorked the bottle and now don't like the genie's mischief. I don't think the genie will be amenable to being stuffed back in. I almost feel sorry for Miss Nancy.
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AOC is a unmitigated 100% joke, with an IQ of a rock. Her credential are limited to being a bar wench, slinging drinks at her local dive.
Thanks to Trump and now Pelosi, this stupid bitch is being given legitimacy and standing in the media, and on the political stage.
IF everyone would have ignored her in the first place, we wouldn't be dealing with this idiot.
But she simply can't be ignored, because the Democrat Party is ruled by Progressives, and their value system (such as it is) dictates that members of Accredited Victim groups are to be given special privileges, and further, there are "no enemies to the Left".
Accordingly and under such conditions, the most radical members of preferred groups with the highest self-regard (irrespective of achievement) will triumph, as any objection to them from within the ranks will be, and have been decried as both retrograde and prejudicial.
The Democrats have made their bed, and now lie with the consequences.
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No vote?
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LOL! That's a great one.
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AOC is a unmittigated 100% joke, with an IQ of a rock. Her credential are limited to being a bar wench, slinging drinks at her local dive.
Thanks to Trump and now Pelosi, this stupid bitch is being given legitimacy and standing in the media, and on the political stage.
IF everyone would have ignored her in the first place, we wouldn't be dealing with this idiot.
I wouldn't underestimate her, nor would I count her out of a leadership role in the House. I think she would love to take Nancy's place. She is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, she graduated cum laude from Boston University, majoring in international relations and economics, she worked as an organizer for Bernie's campaign, and what surprised me is she worked as an intern for Teddy Kennedy.
Yes, the media loves her; they also loved Bammy.
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She is playing her role very well.
She is an instant attention getter ("persuassion" The media comes running.
And she allows many of them to claim to be "moderate" by comparison.
She was a winning entrant in a competition-audition, for new democrat talent.
Politicians don't write all of their own speeches and remarks.
They get help, with "feeds" of clever soundbites, talking points, etc.
Some of them are better than others.
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She is playing her role very well.
She is an instant attention getter ("persuassion" The media comes running.
And she allows many of them to claim to be "moderate" by comparison.
This is the line that battle hinges on.
For Dems, they want the Odd Squad held up so as to look moderate.
For Trump, he wants to paint the whole party as led by and completely compliant toward the Odd Squad.
So far Trump is winning.
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"Looks like Speaker of the the House Nancy Pelosi and Representative Ocasio-Cortez will be meeting next week to discuss control of the House of Representatives and the Democrat coalition."
Hmmmm.....
If this is the actual reason for the meeting, then it should be obvious that Ms. Pelosi IS NOT "in control" of things any more.
Because if she WAS, there would be no meeting, as there would be no need for one.
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Frankly, I have added Boston University to my list of those institutions producing idiots. AOC is too stupid to comprehend how she is killing the very party she is a member of.
Pelosi has a problem with this upstart. What can she do really? Her hands are a bit tied. There is no dealing with genuinely dumb people. If she truly slaps the four of them down, she is a racist. If she lets them run about spewing their garbage, they utterly kill the Dems.
For folks like me, I see it ONLY as a no win situation for the Dems. How delicious.
I think they should rename the party to Box of Rocks Party, for they are every bit as dumb as. Take the Green New Deal that all the Dems jumped on as a brilliant idea. And all or almost all those running on the Dems side jumped aboard to support the insanity. An intelligent person would think that AOC is possibility an operative of the GOP to sink the Dems, because the GND could not be more idiotic!
Again, the Dems embarrass America every waking day.
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Frankly, I have added Boston University to my list of those institutions producing idiots. AOC is too stupid to comprehend how she is killing the very party she is a member of.
Pelosi has a problem with this upstart. What can she do really? Her hands are a bit tied. There is no dealing with genuinely dumb people. If she truly slaps the four of them down, she is a racist. If she lets them run about spewing their garbage, they utterly kill the Dems.
For folks like me, I see it ONLY as a no win situation for the Dems. How delicious.
I think they should rename the party to Box of Rocks Party, for they are every bit as dumb as. Take the Green New Deal that all the Dems jumped on as a brilliant idea. And all or almost all those running on the Dems side jumped aboard to support the insanity. An intelligent person would think that AOC is possibility an operative of the GOP to sink the Dems, because the GND could not be more idiotic!
Again, the Dems embarrass America every waking day.
I see it differently.
While the Dems have often in the past embraced their extremists to make the serious Leftists among them seem more "middle of the road", that phase of the Communist takeover of the democratic Party is nearly complete. In fact, Hillary's loss stymied their neat slide into full blown Socialism, and her shenanigans and dirty tricks were a serious factor in Bernie losing.
The conclusion is that The New Left of the 1970s has nearly displaced the old guard of the Democratic Party, and is pushing for the final takeover of the Party, to impose their totalitarian government on Americans. THe only quibble is whether the end product will bend its knee to Marx or Mohammed. In that, the tolerance crap the Dems have been spewing will come to a head, and one group or the other will be culled.
My bet is on the Communists, who really are more ruthless at heart, but the Mohammedans have 1400 years of practice under their belt and aren't trapped by nonsense about "tolerance." They are about as "racist" as any group can get.
Unfortunately, when a culture becomes unmoored from the anchors of set principles, sooner or later anything can be rationalized. The grossly unfortunate part of this is that the Republican Party, which looks Conservative by comparison, has also let slip its springlines and is equally adrift, following the current that will put us all on the rocks if it doesn't get back to the Constitutional principles which guarantee the Liberty and Rights of all.
I don't see that happening with the current culture in D.C.
The same programs of swarming the border (Cloward Piven personified) in wave after wave of invaders, encouraged by the Dems and Global Socialists (recall, if you will, the Communists want to take over the world, too), spending money we just don't have on things the Federal Government has no Constitutional business spending money on, and the general diminution of our Rights continue, just under a different brand name. Coke/Pepsi/RC Cola, it all leaves pretty much the same taste. A 'win' won't be one unless Republicans can clean the swamp critters from their ranks as well.
Those Americans who know enough about how the country is supposed to work are pissed off, but we're talking people who grew up without 'safe zones', mollycoddling, helicopter parents, and counselors on every corner encouraging medication instead of the slings and arrows of puberty and adult life. That is a group whose ranks grow thinner by the day.
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Smokin Joe.....do not disagree with anything you said. I liken the Dems and the GOP to zebras, one with white stripes, the other with black stripes. They have structured the political process to limit those participating to represent one of two parties, and never three or more.
I voted for Ross Perot twice as a protest vote for no other purpose than to hopefully establish a third viable party, but he was not really committed to that notion. When he backed off because of his daughter, I thought he was a flake of sorts.
On one note, I do not think the commies have anything on the islamists. 1400 years of subjugating people around the globe to what I consider a radical cult with a large membership that builds on murder and slavery to increase their ranks in many parts of the world...no contest.
But if you are saying Clinton is done, I could not disagree more. Until she is indicted for any of her many felonies, she remains a viable contender to run. And I believe she will run and again win the nomination. I think you have seen me mention I think many in the clown car are merely there to dilute Sanders' impact. When you hear some of the nut job ideas some of them espouse, they are right out of the Bernie playbook.
On a funny note, I come from a community in PA that was controlled by the Dems, who were more conservative than any of the Republicans in the community. They had the lowest tax of any in PA, and yet it was a nice suburban community with many amenities. But the Dems controlled spending and the GOP wanted to spend the community blind.
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Smokin Joe.....do not disagree with anything you said. I liken the Dems and the GOP to zebras, one with white stripes, the other with black stripes. They have structured the political process to limit those participating to represent one of two parties, and never three or more.
I voted for Ross Perot twice as a protest vote for no other purpose than to hopefully establish a third viable party, but he was not really committed to that notion. When he backed off because of his daughter, I thought he was a flake of sorts.
On one note, I do not think the commies have anything on the islamists. 1400 years of subjugating people around the globe to what I consider a radical cult with a large membership that builds on murder and slavery to increase their ranks in many parts of the world...no contest.
But if you are saying Clinton is done, I could not disagree more. Until she is indicted for any of her many felonies, she remains a viable contender to run. And I believe she will run and again win the nomination. I think you have seen me mention I think many in the clown car are merely there to dilute Sanders' impact. When you hear some of the nut job ideas some of them espouse, they are right out of the Bernie playbook.
On a funny note, I come from a community in PA that was controlled by the Dems, who were more conservative than any of the Republicans in the community. They had the lowest tax of any in PA, and yet it was a nice suburban community with many amenities. But the Dems controlled spending and the GOP wanted to spend the community blind.
Oh, that's right, it's going to be Trump v Clinton all over again (even though she's not running). *****rollingeyes*****
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I see it differently.
While the Dems have often in the past embraced their extremists to make the serious Leftists among them seem more "middle of the road", that phase of the Communist takeover of the democratic Party is nearly complete. In fact, Hillary's loss stymied their neat slide into full blown Socialism, and her shenanigans and dirty tricks were a serious factor in Bernie losing.
The conclusion is that The New Left of the 1970s has nearly displaced the old guard of the Democratic Party, and is pushing for the final takeover of the Party, to impose their totalitarian government on Americans. THe only quibble is whether the end product will bend its knee to Marx or Mohammed. In that, the tolerance crap the Dems have been spewing will come to a head, and one group or the other will be culled.
My bet is on the Communists, who really are more ruthless at heart, but the Mohammedans have 1400 years of practice under their belt and aren't trapped by nonsense about "tolerance." They are about as "racist" as any group can get.
Unfortunately, when a culture becomes unmoored from the anchors of set principles, sooner or later anything can be rationalized. The grossly unfortunate part of this is that the Republican Party, which looks Conservative by comparison, has also let slip its springlines and is equally adrift, following the current that will put us all on the rocks if it doesn't get back to the Constitutional principles which guarantee the Liberty and Rights of all.
I don't see that happening with the current culture in D.C.
The same programs of swarming the border (Cloward Piven personified) in wave after wave of invaders, encouraged by the Dems and Global Socialists (recall, if you will, the Communists want to take over the world, too), spending money we just don't have on things the Federal Government has no Constitutional business spending money on, and the general diminution of our Rights continue, just under a different brand name. Coke/Pepsi/RC Cola, it all leaves pretty much the same taste. A 'win' won't be on'e unless Republicans can clean the swamp critters from their ranks as well.
Those Americans who know enough about how the country is supposed to work are pissed off, but we're talking people who grew up without 'safe zones', mollycoddling, helicopter parents, and counselors on every corner encouraging medication instead of the slings and arrows of puberty and adult life. That is a group whose ranks grow thinner by the day.
Unfortunately, I believe you are absolutely correct. Pelosi who has been a political female icon for the DEM party since 1987, has in essence lost control. She and this country have been given the middle finger by the 'four horses of the 'apocalypse' and is not only indicative of what is happening in the halls of our Congress, but also in our society.
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Unfortunately, I believe you are absolutely correct. Pelosi who has been a political female icon for the DEM party since 1987, has in essence lost control. She and this country have been given the middle finger by the 'four horses of the 'apocalypse' and is not only indicative of what is happening in the halls of our Congress, but also in our society.
Well, that certainly is the question, isn't it?
How pervasive is this evil embedded within our society at large?
Some of us believe that it is fairly widespread.... especially among those younger than 40, and many (most?) that are living within the cities and into the exburbs....
Others present a strong case that it is poppycock... that the evil supporters are still a tiny minority whose voices are merely amplified by the media....
I don't know the truth here.... unfortunately we have no reliable polling (available to the public) that would inform us....
:shrug:
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Unfortunately, I believe you are absolutely correct. Pelosi who has been a political female icon for the DEM party since 1987, has in essence lost control. She and this country have been given the middle finger by the 'four horses of the 'apocalypse' and is not only indicative of what is happening in the halls of our Congress, but also in our society.
Oh hell...I’ll go there... I think you meant four horseFACEs of the 'apocalypse'
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Pete wonders:
" THe only quibble is whether the end product will bend its knee to Marx or mohammed."
Marx first.
muhammed will come later.
But he WILL come.
And after that, the Marxist heads will [literally] roll, too.
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Well, that certainly is the question, isn't it?
How pervasive is this evil embedded within our society at large?
Some of us believe that it is fairly widespread.... especially among those younger than 40, and many (most?) that are living within the cities and into the exburbs....
Others present a strong case that it is poppycock... that the evil supporters are still a tiny minority whose voices are merely amplified by the media....
I don't know the truth here.... unfortunately we have no reliable polling (available to the public) that would inform us....
:shrug:
All I know for sure is that it is THEY, who are taking to the street to fight for what they want...while we continue to hammer away on our keyboards, sounding off in our echo chamber.
Now what do you suppose is going to happen when all those disaffected, pissed off youth:
A) get their ass handed to them in the next election...will they go quietly back to their homes? Of course not, they will get more violent.
Or
B). Win the next election and regain the controls of power...will they use them benignly? Of course not, they will seek to eradicate conservatives and our philosophy
Either way, it ain’t good folks.
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@rangerrebew
I agree. The Young Turks (muslim Turks,of course) will soon control the Dim Party.
Which is NOT good news because any current Dim that is even semi-sane will then register as a Republican,and vote for any left-wing fool running with a R behind his name.
Or am I the only one that remembers the stunning takeover of Congress by the Republicans under the leadership of Newt,and how within 4 years enough Dims had left the Dim Party and registered as Republicans because that was the ONLY way they could get elected,and eventually enough of them infiltrated the Republican ranks to get Newt kicked out of office and insure a RINO take over?
What you say there, @sneakypete , is literally true. A cursory glance at the "Justice Democrats" reveals the evil of the modern day The Young Turks lurking right below the surface.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Turks
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She is playing her role very well.
She is an instant attention getter ("persuassion" The media comes running.
And she allows many of them to claim to be "moderate" by comparison.
She was a winning entrant in a competition-audition, for new democrat talent.
Politicians don't write all of their own speeches and remarks.
They get help, with "feeds" of clever soundbites, talking points, etc.
Some of them are better than others.
I noticed that you made this point more forcefully in another thread.
In the main, all politicians are actors playing a role. Many wish to ignore that.
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All I know for sure is that it is THEY, who are taking to the street to fight for what they want...while we continue to hammer away on our keyboards, sounding off in our echo chamber.
Now what do you suppose is going to happen when all those disaffected, pissed off youth:
A) get their ass handed to them in the next election...will they go quietly back to their homes? Of course not, they will get more violent.
Or
B). Win the next election and regain the controls of power...will they use them benignly? Of course not, they will seek to eradicate conservatives and our philosophy
Either way, it ain’t good folks.
It certainly ain't.
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@Frank Cannon are you still here?
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Well, that certainly is the question, isn't it?
How pervasive is this evil embedded within our society at large?
Some of us believe that it is fairly widespread.... especially among those younger than 40, and many (most?) that are living within the cities and into the exburbs....
Others present a strong case that it is poppycock... that the evil supporters are still a tiny minority whose voices are merely amplified by the media....
I don't know the truth here.... unfortunately we have no reliable polling (available to the public) that would inform us....
:shrug:
Well taking a look around is more reliable than any poll. The growth of various different radical leftist groups such as LaRaza and Antifa is troubling. Consider also the rise of Islamic indoctrination in our public school system along with the challenges in our court system over Sharia law. Hamtramck MI now has a predominately Muslim city council and we now have two sitting Congresswomen that are Muslim and others within Congress applauding socialism and some even decrying Israel and the Jewish faith. I think it is alarming that there are now enough people voting form them that they have been elected.
I reflect back on Michelle Bachmann being criticized for saying that the Muslim Brotherhood is in Congress. That was how many years ago? It was true then, but no one wanted to admit it.
With the ever increasing influx of illegals allowed into our society, who is really getting in?? Nearly 15 years ago, I read rumors (?)of Islamic terrorists getting over our borders and forming 'pockets' throughout our country in order to eventually wage their Jihad. Could this be true? Certainly, I think it's in the realm of possibility. Take a look at Europe., 'pockets' have already been formed over there so much so that the police will not enter certain areas in France and Germany. Could they also be waiting to wage their Jihad?
Enough said. I definitely need to take a break. It's another beautiful day here with a wonderful breeze. I'm going to go out and enjoy it.
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Now what do you suppose is going to happen when all those disaffected, pissed off youth:
A) get their ass handed to them in the next election...will they go quietly back to their homes? Of course not, they will get more violent.
@EdJames
Promises,promises,promises. The sooner this happens,the sooner we can kill these bastards off and go on with our lives.
Not that I expect this to happen. From what I have seen,they are only bold and violent when they outnumber their victim by at least 10 to 1,and can attack him first from behind.
Wait until those idiots are foolish enough to attack someone with a 10 shot magazine and a reload,who is smart enough to back himself up against a brick wall in a corner when he sees them coming. And make no mistake about it,they are foolish enough to do this when running together in a pack.
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Well, that certainly is the question, isn't it?
How pervasive is this evil embedded within our society at large?
@EdJames
Pretty much to the saturation point in those that go to public schools. This was why the CPUSA worked hard to get their members hired as school teachers in big cities,going all the way back to the 1930's.
Some of us believe that it is fairly widespread.... especially among those younger than 40, and many (most?) that are living within the cities and into the exburbs....
Pretty much to the saturation point in the large coastal cities. It is accepted as "wisdom" in those areas,and anyone that doesn't agree is considered to be a fool.
Others present a strong case that it is poppycock... that the evil supporters are still a tiny minority whose voices are merely amplified by the media....
I think this depends on where you live. If you live a mostly rural area,not so much. If you live in a big city,they dominate.
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Pete wonders:
" THe only quibble is whether the end product will bend its knee to Marx or mohammed."
Marx first.
muhammed will come later.
But he WILL come.
And after that, the Marxist heads will [literally] roll, too.
@Fishrrman
You're just trying to cheer me up,ain't you?
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@EdJames
Promises,promises,promises. The sooner this happens,the sooner we can kill these bastards off and go on with our lives.
Not that I expect this to happen. From what I have seen,they are only bold and violent when they outnumber their victim by at least 10 to 1,and can attack him first from behind.
Wait until those idiots are foolish enough to attack someone with a 10 shot magazine and a reload,who is smart enough to back himself up against a brick wall in a corner when he sees them coming. And make no mistake about it,they are foolish enough to do this when running together in a pack.
I totally agree with you Pete... however, for the sake of clarity, the snippet that you quoted was @Axeslinger 's comment that I was quoting.
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@EdJames
Pretty much to the saturation point in those that go to public schools. This was why the CPUSA worked hard to get their members hired as school teachers in big cities,going all the way back to the 1930's.
Pretty much to the saturation point in the large coastal cities. It is accepted as "wisdom" in those areas,and anyone that doesn't agree is considered to be a fool.
I think this depends on where you live. If you live a mostly rural area,not so much. If you live in a big city,they dominate.
True dat. What I am wondering is how do the numbers stack up nationwide?
What percentage of the total population do they represent?
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Well taking a look around is more reliable than any poll. The growth of various different radical leftist groups such as LaRaza and Antifa is troubling. Consider also the rise of Islamic indoctrination in our public school system along with the challenges in our court system over Sharia law. Hamtramck MI now has a predominately Muslim city council and we now have two sitting Congresswomen that are Muslim and others within Congress applauding socialism and some even decrying Israel and the Jewish faith. I think it is alarming that there are now enough people voting form them that they have been elected.
I reflect back on Michelle Bachmann being criticized for saying that the Muslim Brotherhood is in Congress. That was how many years ago? It was true then, but no one wanted to admit it.
With the ever increasing influx of illegals allowed into our society, who is really getting in?? Nearly 15 years ago, I read rumors (?)of Islamic terrorists getting over our borders and forming 'pockets' throughout our country in order to eventually wage their Jihad. Could this be true? Certainly, I think it's in the realm of possibility. Take a look at Europe., 'pockets' have already been formed over there so much so that the police will not enter certain areas in France and Germany. Could they also be waiting to wage their Jihad?
Enough said. I definitely need to take a break. It's another beautiful day here with a wonderful breeze. I'm going to go out and enjoy it.
So, you've got all the breeze..... onshore or offshore today?
I agree with you that there is much to observe, but all of that is fairly loose, qualitative observations and isolated anecdotes... I am interested in understanding nationwide numbers...
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I totally agree with you Pete... however, for the sake of clarity, the snippet that you quoted was @Axeslinger 's comment that I was quoting.
@EdJames
Sorry about that.
Mad cow.
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@EdJames
Sorry about that.
Mad cow.
:laugh:
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:2popcorn:
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Every member of the group of four was supported by the Justice Democrats. That group has successfully made the dems the democommie party.
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All I know for sure is that it is THEY, who are taking to the street to fight for what they want...while we continue to hammer away on our keyboards, sounding off in our echo chamber.
Now what do you suppose is going to happen when all those disaffected, pissed off youth:
A) get their ass handed to them in the next election...will they go quietly back to their homes? Of course not, they will get more violent.
Or
B). Win the next election and regain the controls of power...will they use them benignly? Of course not, they will seek to eradicate conservatives and our philosophy
Either way, it ain’t good folks.
No, it isn't a good picture, but until the retaliation, defense, reprisals can be justified in the minds of the average slackjawed schmuck, they aren't going to happen. It takes a lot of provocation before people will clear the streets of that crap.
I can only think of once when the SHTF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot) and the current write ups would have you think the side I cheered for were the bad guys.
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True dat. What I am wondering is how do the numbers stack up nationwide?
What percentage of the total population do they represent?
I think you'd get the best feel for that by looking at the county by county breakdowns or the red/blue in the past elections, for trends and for who sits where.
For example, 2016:
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